Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Arjun Singhal
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: OBrien
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: André Boey
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Randy B. Singer
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Harry Flaxman
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Arjun Singhal
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Tod Hopkins
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Forrest Leedy
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: OBrien
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Otto Nikolaus
- 1.11.
- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Arjun Singhal
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Tod Hopkins
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Jim Saklad
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Daly Jessup
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- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Daly Jessup
- 1.16.
- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: OBrien
- 1.17.
- Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Barry Austern
- 2a.
- Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup From: Nick Andriash
- 2b.
- Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup From: Jay Abraham
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- Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup From: Nick Andriash
- 2d.
- Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup From: Tim O'Donoghue
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- Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup From: Jay Abraham
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- Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup From: Daly Jessup
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- Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup From: Nick Andriash
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- Re: print preview From: Jim Smith
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal
Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:32 am (PST)
On your point about import duties - electronics and IT equipment ship to India under relatively low duties. Quite unlike motorcycles and automobiles. Automobiles in India encounter a large number of taxes even in local production - what we call excise, with products encountering high degree of multiple taxation at each level in the supply chain here. There are a lot of nuances involved in importing vehicles to pass safety and pollution regulation requirements and homologate them according to vehicular norms for registration here under different brackets.
As for electronics, the industry is very open to allow the growth of IT and ITES industry here, though India has not been a typical homeland for enthusiasts and hobbyists who venture into gaming and graphics design extensively. This is slowly changing though, and I think its because the market is not yet mature for high-end monitors, the consumer has to either choose from cheaper Chinese products or brands like Chimei that offer similar screen resolution and features as Apple displays for professional work, or go in for the Apple display at an exorbitant price. I remember, a few years ago, we needed to buy displays for FCP machines for a startup video editing studio. And it was difficult to organize things in their budget.
On 13-Dec-2011, at 5:47 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
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> On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
>
> > I might be wrong about this, but the displays sold by Samsung in
> > the Indian market do not offer the same quality in terms of the dot
> > pitch or resolution offered by Apple monitors. It might be that
> > Samsung serves as the OE manufacturer for Apple, but they might be
> > bound under a patent agreement that prevents Samsung from selling
> > competing products in the market. Just a thought from my end.
>
> That doesn't really make logical sense. Samsung has no reason to
> enter into such an agreement with Apple. Samsung is a huge maker of
> displays, being one of the very few manufacturers that actually
> makes, rather than purchases, the LCD panel and electronics that go
> with it. Apple's OEM monitor business is a really tiny part of
> Samsung's monitor business. And I'm willing to bet that all of the
> technology in Apple's OEM displays comes from Samsung, not Apple.
> Apple doesn't bring anything to the business relationship between
> themselves and Samsung that would allow Apple to impose such a
> stipulation on Samsung's own monitor business.
>
> It may be that the Samsung displays in your home market are of lesser
> quality because they cost less to make and can be sold for less and
> Samsung has determined that there isn't a big enough market for
> higher-quality (and thus more expensive) displays.
>
> Or it may be that Samsung isn't importing more expensive displays
> because of the added cost of import taxes. (I know that for things
> like cars and motorcycles the import duties to import them into India
> are huge. It may be the same for some computer peripherals.)
>
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> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:12 am (PST)
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:37:01 +0000, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> This seems to vary a bit depending on OS and hardware but on my PowerBook
> running 10.5.8,
> text zoom is command....
The keyboard commands I mentioned enlarge and decrease the entire view as a whole...not just the text. The function can be toggled, and the preset enlargement can be set in the Universal Access in Sys Prefs.
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "André Boey" caenaar@together.net purpleborzoi
Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:43 am (PST)
On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:24 AM, "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com wrote:
> Samsung SyncMaster S27A350H 27" LCD Monitor -refurbished
> $200 with free shipping
> <http://www.overstock.com/Electronic s/Samsung- P2770FH-27- inch-LCD-
> Computer-Monitor-Refurbished/ 5764861/product. html>
> or
> http://is.gd/1cr84f
This sounded great—until I checked the specs:
Maximum Resolution: 1920X1080
I currently use a 24" LCD display that has a max res of 1920 x 1200. So this Samsung display, while physically larger, will actually give me less screen real estate than what I now have. Am I right? Does anyone have recommendations for a 27" display with a higher res than 1920 x 1200?
Andre
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:01 am (PST)
On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:43 AM, André Boey wrote:
> This sounded great—until I checked the specs:
> Maximum Resolution: 1920X1080
>
> I currently use a 24" LCD display that has a max res of 1920 x
> 1200. So this Samsung display, while physically larger, will
> actually give me less screen real estate than what I now have. Am I
> right? Does anyone have recommendations for a 27" display with a
> higher res than 1920 x 1200?
1920 X 1080 is a quite high resolution for a 27-inch monitor. Some
won't go that high. And who runs their monitor at that high a
resolution anyway? Things on the monitor at that resolution would be
tiny.
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:09 am (PST)
On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> 1920 X 1080 is a quite high resolution for a 27-inch monitor. Some
> won't go that high. And who runs their monitor at that high a
> resolution anyway? Things on the monitor at that resolution would be
The iMacs, recent ones, have 1920X1080 capability. As is, from the 'factory', they default to that resolution. They start at 21.5" screens. I have one and enjoy it immensely.
Harry
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harry.flaxman@comcast.net
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal
Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:15 am (PST)
The resolution of a 15 inch macbook pro is 1440x900. at 27-inch, you have nearly three times the amount of real estate in terms of square inches, and only a fractional increase in the number of pixels. Graphic designers high pixel density when they work with graphics. Their intention of using a larger screen is so they can have more real estate in terms of pixels, not just make things look bigger.
Thus, the Apple Cinema Display ships with 2560x1440 pixel resolution at 27-inch which is exactly what I meant in my earlier post. Off-the-shelf displays will not be sporting this kind of resolution for professional use.
On 13-Dec-2011, at 9:31 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:43 AM, André Boey wrote:
>
> > This sounded great—until I checked the specs:
> > Maximum Resolution: 1920X1080
> >
> > I currently use a 24" LCD display that has a max res of 1920 x
> > 1200. So this Samsung display, while physically larger, will
> > actually give me less screen real estate than what I now have. Am I
> > right? Does anyone have recommendations for a 27" display with a
> > higher res than 1920 x 1200?
>
> 1920 X 1080 is a quite high resolution for a 27-inch monitor. Some
> won't go that high. And who runs their monitor at that high a
> resolution anyway? Things on the monitor at that resolution would be
> tiny.
>
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
>
>
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:13 am (PST)
Higher resolutions will be pricey as the world is standardizing on 1920x1080 and you are seeing huge economies of scale at that size. That's why the 1920x1200 screens are fading away. However, if you're willing to pay the price, you can get higher.
Frankly, I recommend you buy a second display rather than a larger one. You might even consider running one in portrait and the other in landscape, depending on the work you do.
As for "Am I right?" Technically, yes. Less vertical "real estate." However, size does matter. And it's questionable whether the average human can even resolve 1920x1080 displayed at 24" with two feet viewing distance, so increasing size may actually increase your percieved resolution. Not to mention there are many other quality factors such as contrast ratio, absolute brightness, color depth, sync rate (likely 60hz but rising), response time, etc..
Cheers,
tod
On Dec 13, 2011, at 10:43 AM, André Boey wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:24 AM, "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com wrote:
>
>> Samsung SyncMaster S27A350H 27" LCD Monitor -refurbished
>> $200 with free shipping
>> <http://www.overstock.com/Electronic s/Samsung- P2770FH-27- inch-LCD-
>> Computer-Monitor-Refurbished/ 5764861/product. html>
>> or
>> http://is.gd/1cr84f
>
> This sounded great˜until I checked the specs:
> Maximum Resolution: 1920X1080
>
> I currently use a 24" LCD display that has a max res of 1920 x 1200. So this Samsung display, while physically larger, will actually give me less screen real estate than what I now have. Am I right? Does anyone have recommendations for a 27" display with a higher res than 1920 x 1200?
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Forrest Leedy" f.leedy@comcast.net forrkazu
Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:43 am (PST)
My 27" iMac came from the factory set at 2560 x1440 and yes some windows can have really small print but that can be adjusted. When I set it at 1920 x1080 it is huge and maybe someday I will have to go to that size, but for right now the higher resolution suits me fine.
Forrest
On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>> 1920 X 1080 is a quite high resolution for a 27-inch monitor. Some
>> won't go that high. And who runs their monitor at that high a
>> resolution anyway? Things on the monitor at that resolution would be
>
>
> The iMacs, recent ones, have 1920X1080 capability. As is, from the 'factory', they default to that resolution. They start at 21.5" screens. I have one and enjoy it immensely.
>
> Harry
>
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:03 am (PST)
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:13:29 -0500, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> That's why the 1920x1200 screens are fading away. However, if
> you're willing to pay the price, you can get higher.
>
> Frankly, I recommend you buy a second display rather than a larger
> one. You might even consider running one in portrait and the other
> in landscape, depending on the work you do.
My present Samsung 24" LCD monitor has 1920x1200.
I agree about having two monitors. I used to do graphic design, and found two monitors to be way better than just one larger monitor. I would go for two 22"-24" Samsung monitors. This affords a +huge+ amount of real estate...more than one far more expensive large monitor. I had mine set-up to use the left monitor for my working area (Photoshop, drawing, and layout apps), with the right monitor used for displaying all my associated toolboxes.
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:04 am (PST)
For some reason many computer screens have used the 16:10 ratio and
1920x1200 is an example. I never understood why given that widescreen TV
has always been 16:9 (1920x1080 is "Full HD").
Otto
On 13 December 2011 17:13, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com > wrote:
> Higher resolutions will be pricey as the world is standardizing on
> 1920x1080 and you are seeing huge economies of scale at that size. That's
> why the 1920x1200 screens are fading away. However, if you're willing to
> pay the price, you can get higher.
>
> Frankly, I recommend you buy a second display rather than a larger one.
> You might even consider running one in portrait and the other in
> landscape, depending on the work you do.
>
> As for "Am I right?" Technically, yes. Less vertical "real estate."
> However, size does matter. And it's questionable whether the average
> human can even resolve 1920x1080 displayed at 24" with two feet viewing
> distance, so increasing size may actually increase your percieved
> resolution. Not to mention there are many other quality factors such as
> contrast ratio, absolute brightness, color depth, sync rate (likely 60hz
> but rising), response time, etc..
>
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal
Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:15 am (PST)
I think it is so we people can enjoy Full HD video while also having access to the dock and menubar. LOL
On 13-Dec-2011, at 11:33 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> For some reason many computer screens have used the 16:10 ratio and
> 1920x1200 is an example. I never understood why given that widescreen TV
> has always been 16:9 (1920x1080 is "Full HD").
>
> Otto
>
> On 13 December 2011 17:13, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com > wrote:
>
> > Higher resolutions will be pricey as the world is standardizing on
> > 1920x1080 and you are seeing huge economies of scale at that size. That's
> > why the 1920x1200 screens are fading away. However, if you're willing to
> > pay the price, you can get higher.
> >
> > Frankly, I recommend you buy a second display rather than a larger one.
> > You might even consider running one in portrait and the other in
> > landscape, depending on the work you do.
> >
> > As for "Am I right?" Technically, yes. Less vertical "real estate."
> > However, size does matter. And it's questionable whether the average
> > human can even resolve 1920x1080 displayed at 24" with two feet viewing
> > distance, so increasing size may actually increase your percieved
> > resolution. Not to mention there are many other quality factors such as
> > contrast ratio, absolute brightness, color depth, sync rate (likely 60hz
> > but rising), response time, etc..
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:16 am (PST)
Because computer resolutions were first. There was a battle over this when the digital television standards were created. Guess who won. I'm sorry to see 16x9 overwhelm computers. It's entirely illogical. Great for full screen film/video. Totally stupid for most computer apps.
Cheers,
tod
On Dec 13, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> For some reason many computer screens have used the 16:10 ratio and
> 1920x1200 is an example. I never understood why given that widescreen TV
> has always been 16:9 (1920x1080 is "Full HD").
>
> Otto
>
> On 13 December 2011 17:13, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com > wrote:
>
> > Higher resolutions will be pricey as the world is standardizing on
> > 1920x1080 and you are seeing huge economies of scale at that size. That's
> > why the 1920x1200 screens are fading away. However, if you're willing to
> > pay the price, you can get higher.
> >
> > Frankly, I recommend you buy a second display rather than a larger one.
> > You might even consider running one in portrait and the other in
> > landscape, depending on the work you do.
> >
> > As for "Am I right?" Technically, yes. Less vertical "real estate."
> > However, size does matter. And it's questionable whether the average
> > human can even resolve 1920x1080 displayed at 24" with two feet viewing
> > distance, so increasing size may actually increase your percieved
> > resolution. Not to mention there are many other quality factors such as
> > contrast ratio, absolute brightness, color depth, sync rate (likely 60hz
> > but rising), response time, etc..
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:10 pm (PST)
> My present Samsung 24" LCD monitor has 1920x1200.
>
> I agree about having two monitors. I used to do graphic design, and found two monitors to be way better than just one larger monitor. I would go for two 22"-24" Samsung monitors. This affords a +huge+ amount of real estate...more than one far more expensive large monitor. I had mine set-up to use the left monitor for my working area (Photoshop, drawing, and layout apps), with the right monitor used for displaying all my associated toolboxes.
I've seen a video production set-up using 3 30-inch monitors.
But keep in mind that those 60" HDTV plasma screens are 1920X1080.
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:57 pm (PST)
On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:43 AM, André Boey wrote:
> I currently use a 24" LCD display that has a max res of 1920 x 1200. So this Samsung display, while physically larger, will actually give me less screen real estate than what I now have. Am I right? Does anyone have recommendations for a 27" display with a higher res than 1920 x 1200?
I'm running a fairly recent iMac with a 27" display at 2560 x 1440. That's the same resolution as the Thunderbolt display offered at the Apple Store. I'm extremely happy with it and even with my old eyes and wrong glassess, I can see everything just fine.
Of course, if it's too small, I can switch to 1980 x 1220, and it's still fine. However, the monitors, while beautiful, are pricey at $999 (Plus whatever adapter you might need to connect it to your computer).
(And actually, in answering this I did switch to 1980 x 1220 and I think I'll stay here until I get new glasses.)
Daly
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:01 pm (PST)
On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:43 AM, André Boey wrote:
>
>> This sounded great—until I checked the specs:
>> Maximum Resolution: 1920X1080
>>
>> I currently use a 24" LCD display that has a max res of 1920 x
>> 1200. So this Samsung display, while physically larger, will
>> actually give me less screen real estate than what I now have. Am I
>> right? Does anyone have recommendations for a 27" display with a
>> higher res than 1920 x 1200?
>
> 1920 X 1080 is a quite high resolution for a 27-inch monitor. Some
> won't go that high. And who runs their monitor at that high a
> resolution anyway? Things on the monitor at that resolution would be
> tiny.
Sorry, I just sent a message with wrong into. I have temporarily switched FROM 2560 x 1440 TO 1920 x 1080. Not whatever I said it the post a moment ago. But anyway, I have been working at 2560 x 1440 for many months and have been perfectly happy with hit. So i don't think that's such a rare resolution for a 27" screen.
Daly
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:21 pm (PST)
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:57:18 -0800, Daly Jessup wrote:
> (And actually, in answering this I did switch to 1980 x 1220 and I
> think I'll stay here until I get new glasses.)
Ha! This discussion has caused me to switch from 1920x1200 to 1600x1000 on my 24"...never thought about it 'till now. Wow! I can read things so much better.
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Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:23 pm (PST)
At 7:21 PM -0600 12/13/11, OBrien wrote:
>
>Ha! This discussion has caused me to switch from 1920x1200 to
>1600x1000 on my 24"...never thought about it 'till now. Wow! I can
>read things so much better.
Just tried that on my 24" iMac, and the characters are a bit blurry.
I think I'll stay with the other unless I really need it.
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barryaus@fuse.net
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Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup
Posted by: "Nick Andriash" medic65@telus.net andriash2005
Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:22 am (PST)
I want to restore my 2011 MBPro... back to a Dec.1/2011 Time Machine backup. The instructions for doing so tell me to first insert the original OSX install disc and go to the Utilities/Restore menu. However, my install disc is Snow Leopard, and it tells me I cannot use that. What's more, my 16 GB Kingston USB Drive on which I have a bootable copy of Lion, will not show up in Finder. All my other USB drives (including a 32 GB Kingston DataTraveler) show up, except for the 16 GB for some unknown reason.
Having said all that, what recourse do I have to enable me to revert back to an earlier Time Machine Backup? Do I need now to purchase a Lion install disc? I cannot even download the file from the App Store because it states I already have Lion installed.
Thanks for any help given.
Nick
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17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7, Memory 8 GB, OS X 10.7.2
iPad2 WiFi & 3G, 64GB
iPhone4S 32GB
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Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup
Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net kerala01212001
Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:13 pm (PST)
Hi Nick,
Start up you MBPro using Lion Restore. From a cold start, hold down command R. This should start in the Lion Restore disk and allow you to select to restore from the attached Time Machine backup.
Jay
On Dec 13, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Nick Andriash wrote:
> I want to restore my 2011 MBPro... back to a Dec.1/2011 Time Machine backup. The instructions for doing so tell me to first insert the original OSX install disc and go to the Utilities/Restore menu. However, my install disc is Snow Leopard, and it tells me I cannot use that. What's more, my 16 GB Kingston USB Drive on which I have a bootable copy of Lion, will not show up in Finder. All my other USB drives (including a 32 GB Kingston DataTraveler) show up, except for the 16 GB for some unknown reason.
>
> Having said all that, what recourse do I have to enable me to revert back to an earlier Time Machine Backup? Do I need now to purchase a Lion install disc? I cannot even download the file from the App Store because it states I already have Lion installed.
>
> Thanks for any help given.
>
> Nick
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Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup
Posted by: "Nick Andriash" medic65@telus.net andriash2005
Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:45 pm (PST)
On 2011-12-13, at 2:13 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:
> Start up you MBPro using Lion Restore. From a cold start, hold down command R. This should start in the Lion Restore disk and allow you to select to restore from the attached Time Machine backup.
Thanks for responding Jay, but I am not sure I understand "allow you to restore from the attached Time Machine backup. It is the word "attached" that confuses me. Is this something I have to do...attach a TM backup...somehow before I using the Lion Restore USB drive?
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andriash@telus.net
17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7, Memory 8 GB, OS X 10.7.2
iPad2 WiFi & 3G, 64GB
iPhone4S 32GB
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Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup
Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net timodonoghue
Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:00 pm (PST)
Hi Nick;
A Time Machine drive is usually and external drive that's always connected - Time Machine will back up changes periodically. When you boot in Recovery Mode ( hold down CMD-R after the chime on boot), the Time Machine drive can be detected and used to restore to s specified date.
Do you use Time Machine differently than that?
On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Nick Andriash wrote:
>
> On 2011-12-13, at 2:13 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:
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>> Start up you MBPro using Lion Restore. From a cold start, hold down command R. This should start in the Lion Restore disk and allow you to select to restore from the attached Time Machine backup.
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> Thanks for responding Jay, but I am not sure I understand "allow you to restore from the attached Time Machine backup. It is the word "attached" that confuses me. Is this something I have to do...attach a TM backup...somehow before I using the Lion Restore USB drive?
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Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup
Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net kerala01212001
Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:26 pm (PST)
Hi Nick,
Sorry for confusing you. I just meant the Time Machine disk that you are using should remain connected to the computer so the Lion Restore disk should see it.
By the way, Lion Restore is not a USB Drive. It is a hidden partition that Lion sets up on the main drive when it is installed. You can boot up from this partition by holding down Command R when starting up the computer.
Jay
On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Nick Andriash wrote:
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> On 2011-12-13, at 2:13 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:
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> > Start up you MBPro using Lion Restore. From a cold start, hold down command R. This should start in the Lion Restore disk and allow you to select to restore from the attached Time Machine backup.
>
> Thanks for responding Jay, but I am not sure I understand "allow you to restore from the attached Time Machine backup. It is the word "attached" that confuses me. Is this something I have to do...attach a TM backup...somehow before I using the Lion Restore USB drive?
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Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com
Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:13 pm (PST)
On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Nick Andriash wrote:
> I want to restore my 2011 MBPro... back to a Dec.1/2011 Time Machine backup. The instructions for doing so tell me to first insert the original OSX install disc and go to the Utilities/Restore menu. However, my install disc is Snow Leopard, and it tells me I cannot use that. What's more, my 16 GB Kingston USB Drive on which I have a bootable copy of Lion, will not show up in Finder. All my other USB drives (including a 32 GB Kingston DataTraveler) show up, except for the 16 GB for some unknown reason.
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> Having said all that, what recourse do I have to enable me to revert back to an earlier Time Machine Backup? Do I need now to purchase a Lion install disc? I cannot even download the file from the App Store because it states I already have Lion installed.
That's confusing to me, because I thought you were supposed to be able to redownload things that had already been downloaded.
I don't have Lion on my main Mac (just in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine).
But there may be info here that will help you.
<http://www.hightechdad.com/2011/ >07/21/how- to-re-download- mac-os-x- lion-create- a-bootable- install-dvd/
Daly
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Re: Problems Restoring from Time Machine Backup
Posted by: "Nick Andriash" medic65@telus.net andriash2005
Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:28 pm (PST)
On 2011-12-13, at 5:13 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
> That's confusing to me, because I thought you were supposed to be able to redownload things that had already been downloaded.
> I don't have Lion on my main Mac (just in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine).
Sorry Daly for the confusion, because after re-reading what I had written... it was confusing to me too. ;-) The part I needed a refresher on was what to do after opening Time Machine and choosing the date which I wanted to revert back to: Even after choosing the date, TM would still not allow me to revert anything until I told it "specifically" what I wanted restored. I simply thought that simply picking the date was all that was needed.
It took a few attempts to finally make the appropriate choice.
Thanks to you, Tim and Jay for your help. I will have to read up more on the in's and out's of using Time Machine. All is well now.
Thanks again,
Nick
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Re: print preview
Posted by: "Jim Smith" jas1931@gmail.com jimmacsmith
Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:32 pm (PST)
What I have been doing for Print Preview, after upgrading to Lion, in all application: In the print dialog is to select PDF->Open in Preview, then after 'print displays' then either select cancel or print.
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On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:42 PM, Jeannie wrote:
> I noticed that since I installed lion, I no longer have the print preview
> option while printing something on line. I am using Firefox. Hubie said to
> try safari. When I did , I still had the print preview feature. I am using
> a HP laser jet P1606dn.
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> has anyone else had this problem. I have used Firefox for years, and love
> it, and don't want to use safari.
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> Thanks,
> Jeannie
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