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1a.: Re: Lion and C Compiler? From: Harry Flaxman

2a.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Randy B. Singer
2b.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Otto Nikolaus
2c.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Otto Nikolaus
2d.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Arjun Singhal
2e.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro From: Randy B. Singer

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1a.: Re: Lion and C Compiler?

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001

Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:28 am (PST)

On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:24 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
> Actually, the App store is working exactly as Apple intends. The idea is
> when you install it from the app store, it only downloads the installer.
> You then have to run it by hand yourself afterwards. Now, you could
> argue this is dumb, since no other application in the store works this
> way, and I would agree. But this is what Apple wants to happen, so it is
> working as intended. Search the web, and you will find plenty of
> discussions on this.

Like I said earlier, I haven't tried to re-compile any of my code until yesterday. Imagine my horror when I found I had no compiler! Thought I'd have to turn to Intel's compiler, lord help me! :) :)

Harry

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2a.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger

Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:47 am (PST)

On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> > http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Samsung-P2770FH-27-inch-LCD-
> > Computer-Monitor-Refurbished/5764861/product.html
>
> That does look wonderful, but does it use the mini display port? I
> can't figure it out. I have a Thunderbolt port, but am not sure if
> I have a mini display port.

A Thunderbolt port *is also* a MiniDisplay Port.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)

If you re-read my post you will see that I told the original poster
where to get a MiniDisplay Port to HDMI adapter to make the
referenced Samsung display work with his MacBook. The referenced
Samsung monitor has DVI and HDMI inputs, both of which are digital
inputs. Both are digital inputs. (VGA is an analog input, and in
any case the referenced Samsung display doesn't have a VGA input.)
There are MiniDisplay Port to DVI adapters, but HDMI is nominally a
higher quality interface than DVI.

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2b.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf

Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:37 am (PST)

2011/12/13 OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net>

> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:33:54 +0000, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> > And use text zoom as required.
>
> I use Command/Option/+ and - to enlarge view by a preset amount ( - to
> reduce). I'm using an older OSX, so don't know if current OSX has this.
>
> I suggest Samsung for a monitor...you can get an adaptor.
>

Samsung make Apple's monitors and are much better value than the
Apple-branded ones.

This seems to vary a bit depending on OS and hardware but on my PowerBook
running 10.5.8,
text zoom is command - and command =
screen zoom is alt command - and alt command =
(- and = are the minus/plus keys but you don't need the shift key)
You can also zoom using the trackpad/mouse but I find it harder to control.

Otto

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2c.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf

Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:41 am (PST)

On 13 December 2011 03:37, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.com> wrote:

>
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Bill Morton wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to use some other equipment maker's large monitor with
> > Apple, using the MiniDisplay port on the Macbook? Anyone have
> > experience or suggestions on this usage? Any particular brand
> > of external monitor?
>
> You can use any monitor with a digital input (DVI or HDMI) with your
> Macintosh.
>
> It is a not a very well kept secret that Samsung makes all of Apple's
> external monitors for them. The really good news is that Samsung-
> branded monitors tend to be among the best monitors, at the best
> prices, that you can find.
>
> Even better, you can find excellent deals on refurbished (but like
> new) Samsung monitors:
>
> If you are looking for a 27-inch monitor, check out this great deal:
>
> Samsung SyncMaster S27A350H 27" LCD Monitor -refurbished
> $200 with free shipping
> <http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Samsung-P2770FH-27-inch-LCD-
> Computer-Monitor-Refurbished/5764861/product.html>
> or
> http://is.gd/1cr84f
>
> Reviews:
> http://is.gd/ECRkWE
>
> To attach your MacBook to this Samsung monitor, you will need this
> adapter (I chose an HDMI adapter over a DVI adapter for best picture
> quality):
>
> Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter
> $6.65
> http://is.gd/hrjeP5
>
> You will also need an HDMI cable. I recommend this premium one:
>
> 4 ft HDMI cable
> $5.67
> http://is.gd/XgjQI2

It makes sense to use HDMI whenever you can, doesn't it, because that is
the standard for HD TV and it cuts down on the number of different cables
you need? I also means you have another/others to try if you think one is
failing.

Otto

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2d.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal

Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:57 am (PST)

I might be wrong about this, but the displays sold by Samsung in the Indian market do not offer the same quality in terms of the dot pitch or resolution offered by Apple monitors. It might be that Samsung serves as the OE manufacturer for Apple, but they might be bound under a patent agreement that prevents Samsung from selling competing products in the market. Just a thought from my end.

On 13-Dec-2011, at 5:10 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> On 13 December 2011 03:37, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Bill Morton wrote:
> >
> > > Is it possible to use some other equipment maker's large monitor with
> > > Apple, using the MiniDisplay port on the Macbook? Anyone have
> > > experience or suggestions on this usage? Any particular brand
> > > of external monitor?
> >
> > You can use any monitor with a digital input (DVI or HDMI) with your
> > Macintosh.
> >
> > It is a not a very well kept secret that Samsung makes all of Apple's
> > external monitors for them. The really good news is that Samsung-
> > branded monitors tend to be among the best monitors, at the best
> > prices, that you can find.
> >
> > Even better, you can find excellent deals on refurbished (but like
> > new) Samsung monitors:
> >
> > If you are looking for a 27-inch monitor, check out this great deal:
> >
> > Samsung SyncMaster S27A350H 27" LCD Monitor -refurbished
> > $200 with free shipping
> > <http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Samsung-P2770FH-27-inch-LCD-
> > Computer-Monitor-Refurbished/5764861/product.html>
> > or
> > http://is.gd/1cr84f
> >
> > Reviews:
> > http://is.gd/ECRkWE
> >
> > To attach your MacBook to this Samsung monitor, you will need this
> > adapter (I chose an HDMI adapter over a DVI adapter for best picture
> > quality):
> >
> > Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter
> > $6.65
> > http://is.gd/hrjeP5
> >
> > You will also need an HDMI cable. I recommend this premium one:
> >
> > 4 ft HDMI cable
> > $5.67
> > http://is.gd/XgjQI2
>
> It makes sense to use HDMI whenever you can, doesn't it, because that is
> the standard for HD TV and it cuts down on the number of different cables
> you need? I also means you have another/others to try if you think one is
> failing.
>
> Otto
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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2e.: Re: Larger screen monitors for MacBookPro

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger

Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:17 am (PST)

On Dec 13, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> I might be wrong about this, but the displays sold by Samsung in
> the Indian market do not offer the same quality in terms of the dot
> pitch or resolution offered by Apple monitors. It might be that
> Samsung serves as the OE manufacturer for Apple, but they might be
> bound under a patent agreement that prevents Samsung from selling
> competing products in the market. Just a thought from my end.

That doesn't really make logical sense. Samsung has no reason to
enter into such an agreement with Apple. Samsung is a huge maker of
displays, being one of the very few manufacturers that actually
makes, rather than purchases, the LCD panel and electronics that go
with it. Apple's OEM monitor business is a really tiny part of
Samsung's monitor business. And I'm willing to bet that all of the
technology in Apple's OEM displays comes from Samsung, not Apple.
Apple doesn't bring anything to the business relationship between
themselves and Samsung that would allow Apple to impose such a
stipulation on Samsung's own monitor business.

It may be that the Samsung displays in your home market are of lesser
quality because they cost less to make and can be sold for less and
Samsung has determined that there isn't a big enough market for
higher-quality (and thus more expensive) displays.

Or it may be that Samsung isn't importing more expensive displays
because of the added cost of import taxes. (I know that for things
like cars and motorcycles the import duties to import them into India
are huge. It may be the same for some computer peripherals.)

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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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