Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Database Alternatives From: Tod Hopkins
- 2a.
- Re: NTFS usb drive suddenly quits in Lion From: Tim O'Donoghue
- 2b.
- Re: NTFS usb drive suddenly quits in Lion From: Bob Cook
- 3a.
- Re: USB3 Kext?? From: Bob Cook
- 3b.
- Re: USB3 Kext?? From: Jim Saklad
- 3c.
- Re: USB3 Kext?? From: Bob Cook
- 3d.
- Re: USB3 Kext?? From: Jim Saklad
- 3e.
- Re: USB3 Kext?? From: Bob Cook
- 4a.
- Re: Why your email address gets stolen From: Jay Abraham
- 4b.
- Re: Why your email address gets stolen From: Tim O'Donoghue
- 4c.
- Re: Why your email address gets stolen From: James Robertson
- 4d.
- Re: Why your email address gets stolen From: Jay Abraham
- 4e.
- Re: Why your email address gets stolen From: Tim O'Donoghue
- 4f.
- Re: Why your email address gets stolen From: Jim Saklad
- 4g.
- Re: Why your email address gets stolen From: Harry Flaxman
- 4h.
- Re: Why your email address gets stolen From: Harry Flaxman
- 4i.
- Re: Why your email address gets stolen From: Jay Abraham
- 5a.
- Re: More AppleCare Help is needed From: Jim Saklad
- 5b.
- Re: More AppleCare Help is needed From: Arjun Singhal
- 5c.
- Re: More AppleCare Help is needed From: Jim Saklad
- 5d.
- Re: More AppleCare Help is needed From: Arjun Singhal
- 5e.
- Re: More AppleCare Help is needed From: Jim Saklad
- 5f.
- Re: More AppleCare Help is needed From: Arjun Singhal
- 5g.
- Re: More AppleCare Help is needed From: Arjun Singhal
- 6a.
- Re: MacBook Air SuperDrive usable on other Macs From: Tim O'Donoghue
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Re: Database Alternatives
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:33 am (PST)
A spreadsheet is database software that specializes in calculations on the collected data. An address book is a specialized database software. So is a table in a word processor, or a calendar, or a To Do list. It's a concept, not a product. It's the "document" not the word processor.
Cheers,
tod
On Jan 8, 2012, at 7:09 PM, titnaw titnaw wrote:
> Do any of you use Numbers for a database?
> Titnaw
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.com >wrote:
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>> **
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>> Apropos to this discussion, I just heard from Apimac, and they have
>> released a new version of iDatabase for Mac.
>> They are offering 50% off the Single User version for a limited time.
>>
>> Use Discount code: APIDSCT50IDATA
>>
>> The coupon can be used on
>>
>> http://www.apimac.com/store/ idatabase
>>
>> and is valid until January 15, 2012.
>>
>> App Web Page and demo:
>> http://www.apimac.com/mac/idatabas e/
>>
>> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
>> Randy B. Singer
>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>>
>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
>> _____________________ _________ _________ ____
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Re: NTFS usb drive suddenly quits in Lion
Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net timodonoghue
Mon Jan 9, 2012 6:52 am (PST)
An alternative to Paragon is Tuxera NTFS. It's not free, but can be trialled (15 days), and used in troubleshooting - http://www.tuxera.com/products/ tuxera-ntfs- for-mac/
I've used it on my Macbook pro since day 1 with no issues
On Jan 9, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:53 AM, Adit wrote:
>
>> My friend has an NTFS external HDD that he connects with on his Snow Leopard MBP using Paragon.
>>
>> He upgraded to Lion during the holidays.
>>
>> The HDD was working... for a day or two. Then suddenly it stopped working. He plugged it in, and the icon didn't appear on the finder.
>>
>>
>> The HDD can still be accessed in other computers, so the problem is not there.
>>
>> When my friend brought up System Preferences and clicked on the Paragon pane, System Preferences said it needs to Close and Reopen. It did that, then simply said that "Cannot open the NTFS preference pane"
>>
>> He is able, using Disk First Aid, to see the top level of the external HDD. He tried to repair the HDD, it ran successfully, but nothing happened.
>>
>> He tried clearing the PRAM, nothing happened.
>>
>> He tried reinstalling Paragon NTFS; nothing happened.
>>
>> He tried deleting 'ufsd.fs' from /system/Library/filesystem then reinstalling Paragon; no dice.
>>
>> Any suggestions? Any advice? Help? Please?
>>
>> Thank you kindly in advance.
>
> First thing I'd check is to see whether or not the Paragon software is compatible with 10.7. Kinda sounds as if it isn't.
>
> I would check with the developer to see if there is a new version compatible with Lion.
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Re: NTFS usb drive suddenly quits in Lion
Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com cookrd1
Mon Jan 9, 2012 7:47 am (PST)
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Adit <nednewbie@yahoo.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> My friend has an NTFS external HDD that he connects with on his Snow
> Leopard MBP using Paragon.
>
> He upgraded to Lion during the holidays.
>
> The HDD was working... for a day or two. Then suddenly it stopped working.
> He plugged it in, and the icon didn't appear on the finder.
>
> I am using Paragon with Lion and it is working well. Very rarely, an
external drive will not show up in Finder but my NTFS partition on my
internal drive always shows up and works. I don't recall updating Paragon,
but perhaps I just don't remember - lots of that when you get old and
cranky!
Bob
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Re: USB3 Kext??
Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com cookrd1
Mon Jan 9, 2012 8:07 am (PST)
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Ah, yes.
> USB3 speed....
>
> I no longer have a device in the ExpressCard slot on my MacBookPro5,1 but
> when I did, I looked at the report on it in System Profiler.
>
> I was somewhat surprised to learn that the ExpressCard slot is on the USB
> bus.
> In other words, the ExpressCard slot's maximum speed (at least in my
> machine) is that of USB2.
>
> You might want to check your own.
>
> Thanks, Jim, now I remember that discussion. However, how did you
determine this? I looked at the System Information (formerly called System
Profiler I think), and I don't see the Expresscard reader referenced
anywhere, but I also don't have anything plugged in.
That would be a major bummer. I sure hope Thunderbolt portable drives and
drive enclosures come out soon.
Also, thanks to Denver Dan with the excellent OWC suggestion. I have
purchased a lot from them and will check them out, pending this
Expresscard/USB2 issue.
What a great group! Thanks for your help.
BTW, I am in Las Vegas where there are THREE Apple stores. Very crowded
last Saturday.
Bob
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Re: USB3 Kext??
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:29 am (PST)
>> In other words, the ExpressCard slot's maximum speed (at least in my
>> machine) is that of USB2.
>>
>> You might want to check your own.
>
> Thanks, Jim, now I remember that discussion. However, how did you determine this? I looked at the System Information (formerly called System Profiler I think), and I don't see the Expresscard reader referenced anywhere, but I also don't have anything plugged in.
I think that is the necessary condition.
I have no reference in System Information *now* to the ExpressCard slot, since I have nothing in it. I suppose it is possible that later (current) MBPro's put the slot on the PCI (faster) bus.
> That would be a major bummer. I sure hope Thunderbolt portable drives and
> drive enclosures come out soon.
<http://pcper.com/news/ >Storage/CES- 2012-OCZ- Shows-Lightfoot- Thunderbolt- External- SATA-Drive
> Also, thanks to Denver Dan with the excellent OWC suggestion. I have purchased a lot from them and will check them out, pending this Expresscard/USB2 issue.
I'm waiting for an OWC external Thunderbolt/FW800 "6G" SSD....
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Re: USB3 Kext??
Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com cookrd1
Mon Jan 9, 2012 7:55 pm (PST)
Thanks, Jim. I am at CES now. The Enyo works great with my PC and I
wanted a USB3 port on my old MBP to work with it, but I guess that is not
in the cards.
The OWC Thunderbolt drive SSD is terribly expensive. And, there are a lot
of discussions here about larger SSD drives having much greater failure
rates. Maybe that will change since I was not clear if they were talking
about current SSD drives or earlier drives (which I have heard about
before).
-Bob
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
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> <
> http://pcper.com/news/ Storage/CES- 2012-OCZ- Shows-Lightfoot- Thunderbolt- External- SATA-Drive
> >
>
>
> > Also, thanks to Denver Dan with the excellent OWC suggestion. I have
> purchased a lot from them and will check them out, pending this
> Expresscard/USB2 issue.
>
> I'm waiting for an OWC external Thunderbolt/FW800 "6G" SSD....
>
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Re: USB3 Kext??
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:26 pm (PST)
> Thanks, Jim. I am at CES now.
> .....
> The OWC Thunderbolt drive SSD is terribly expensive.
I didn't know OWC *had* a thunderbolt SSD yet.
Is that new at CES?
I don't find it on their website.
> And, there are a lot of discussions here about larger SSD drives having much greater failure
> rates.
> -Bob
I would probably use an SSD as a "System and Applications" sandbox. On my present machine, less than 20 GB. Even if I put some of what is in Users, it would still be well under 120 GB.
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Re: USB3 Kext??
Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com cookrd1
Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:32 pm (PST)
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> > Thanks, Jim. I am at CES now.
> > .....
>
> > The OWC Thunderbolt drive SSD is terribly expensive.
>
> I didn't know OWC *had* a thunderbolt SSD yet.
> Is that new at CES?
> I don't find it on their website.
>
Jim, here is a link -
http://pcper.com/news/ Storage/CES- 2012-OCZ- Shows-Lightfoot- Thunderbolt- External- SATA-Drive
Didn't you send me that link? OCZ has a bunch of stuff here. Today was
for the Press only, so I didn't snoop around much. I plan on going back
tomorrow. Not only to check out the new stuff in more detail, but also to
see if they have anything for sale (existing products).
Bob
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Re: Why your email address gets stolen
Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net kerala01212001
Mon Jan 9, 2012 8:49 am (PST)
Hi all,
The article suggests backing up your Cloud accounts. My question is on how to do this.
If you reading your cloud accounts on Mail using IMAP and your mail folders are also on the cloud, is it sufficient that you are backing up your computer which has the IMAP accounts locally?
I know that on my computer I can always see the mail folders and MobileMe and the messages in my inbox. I have always figured I could go back to a TimeMachine backup to restore any message inadvertently deleted as long as the message was at some point downloaded to the desktop.
However, I don't know if this is really true or if only a certain amount of information is downloaded to the desktop. For example, if I try to view my IMAP account folders using my iPad or iPhone, I can get to the older messages but they are not stored locally on the iPad or iPhone. Is this similar to what happens on my desktop.
Is there something else I should be doing to back up for the cloud? Also any suggestions on how to back up Google Docs?
Thanks,
Jay
On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:33 PM, James Robertson wrote:
> <http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine >/archive/ 2011/11/hacked/ 8673/
>
> Chris Collins suggests the person hacked had no right to be distraught because she (almost) lost all her mail. I think the piece makes clear that she (or at least her husband, tech writer for the Atlantic, knew that), but the piece is primarily about the ecology of email hacking: why people do it, why people don't protect themselves against it adequately, why the hosts (gmail, in this case) are incented more to DELETE your mail than they are to save it, etc.
>
> Again, what surprised me the most reading this article was the motivation for people to do it - to scratch out a living of a couple hundred dollars a day in cash, not to steal someone's identity.
>
> --
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Re: Why your email address gets stolen
Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net timodonoghue
Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:06 am (PST)
Lots of apps and procedures for backing up GMail:
http://goo.gl/f1PTd
On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The article suggests backing up your Cloud accounts. My question is on how to do this.
>
> If you reading your cloud accounts on Mail using IMAP and your mail folders are also on the cloud, is it sufficient that you are backing up your computer which has the IMAP accounts locally?
>
> I know that on my computer I can always see the mail folders and MobileMe and the messages in my inbox. I have always figured I could go back to a TimeMachine backup to restore any message inadvertently deleted as long as the message was at some point downloaded to the desktop.
>
> However, I don't know if this is really true or if only a certain amount of information is downloaded to the desktop. For example, if I try to view my IMAP account folders using my iPad or iPhone, I can get to the older messages but they are not stored locally on the iPad or iPhone. Is this similar to what happens on my desktop.
>
> Is there something else I should be doing to back up for the cloud? Also any suggestions on how to back up Google Docs?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay
> On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:33 PM, James Robertson wrote:
>
>> <http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine >/archive/ 2011/11/hacked/ 8673/
>>
>> Chris Collins suggests the person hacked had no right to be distraught because she (almost) lost all her mail. I think the piece makes clear that she (or at least her husband, tech writer for the Atlantic, knew that), but the piece is primarily about the ecology of email hacking: why people do it, why people don't protect themselves against it adequately, why the hosts (gmail, in this case) are incented more to DELETE your mail than they are to save it, etc.
>>
>> Again, what surprised me the most reading this article was the motivation for people to do it - to scratch out a living of a couple hundred dollars a day in cash, not to steal someone's identity.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Robertson
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Re: Why your email address gets stolen
Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net jamesrob328i
Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:19 am (PST)
On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
> I know that on my computer I can always see the mail folders and MobileMe and the messages in my inbox. I have always figured I could go back to a TimeMachine backup to restore any message inadvertently deleted as long as the message was at some point downloaded to the desktop.
>
> However, I don't know if this is really true or if only a certain amount of information is downloaded to the desktop. For example, if I try to view my IMAP account folders using my iPad or iPhone, I can get to the older messages but they are not stored locally on the iPad or iPhone. Is this similar to what happens on my desktop.
>
> Is there something else I should be doing to back up for the cloud? Also any suggestions on how to back up Google Docs?
I haven't flipped the switch to activate iCloud yet, but there are a few key points:
1. The only mail that will get coordinated there is mail on Apple's servers (.me or .mac addresses).
2. I think that if you have Time Machine working correctly, your ".me/.mac" IMAP folders will be backed up locally using the Time Machine, as will mail.app's IMAP folders for other accounts.
3. As others have noted, the scary thing about IMAP is that there's always the "potential" for catastrophic loss if your ONLY backup is the locally cached copy of received or sent mail stored within Mail.app's database of messages (if it's deleted on the server, it will be deleted from your Mail.app database next time you connect to the server).
4. If you're concerned about gmail, Joe Kissel has written extensively about archiving IMAP mail using gmail. Google his name and "archive gmail" and look for hits at macworld.com
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Re: Why your email address gets stolen
Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net kerala01212001
Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:42 am (PST)
Yes, I understand that. However my question is do you need to do anything else if your local Mail is already being backed up by alternate means (e.g. Time Machine, super duper, etc). What I am trying to understand is if you are using Mail to read your cloud documents be it GMail or other cloud, whether it backs up all you have on the cloud if you have Mail set up as IMAP?
Jay
On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
> Lots of apps and procedures for backing up GMail:
>
> http://goo.gl/f1PTd
>
> On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The article suggests backing up your Cloud accounts. My question is on how to do this.
> >
> > If you reading your cloud accounts on Mail using IMAP and your mail folders are also on the cloud, is it sufficient that you are backing up your computer which has the IMAP accounts locally?
> >
> > I know that on my computer I can always see the mail folders and MobileMe and the messages in my inbox. I have always figured I could go back to a TimeMachine backup to restore any message inadvertently deleted as long as the message was at some point downloaded to the desktop.
> >
> > However, I don't know if this is really true or if only a certain amount of information is downloaded to the desktop. For example, if I try to view my IMAP account folders using my iPad or iPhone, I can get to the older messages but they are not stored locally on the iPad or iPhone. Is this similar to what happens on my desktop.
> >
> > Is there something else I should be doing to back up for the cloud? Also any suggestions on how to back up Google Docs?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jay
> > On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:33 PM, James Robertson wrote:
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Re: Why your email address gets stolen
Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net timodonoghue
Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:52 am (PST)
My understanding of IMAP is that it's a "viewer" into your email on the server. You can choose, by various means, to store some or all the mail locally. The locally stored items can be backed up by your backup process.
nOn Jan 9, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
> Yes, I understand that. However my question is do you need to do anything else if your local Mail is already being backed up by alternate means (e.g. Time Machine, super duper, etc). What I am trying to understand is if you are using Mail to read your cloud documents be it GMail or other cloud, whether it backs up all you have on the cloud if you have Mail set up as IMAP?
>
> Jay
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
>
>> Lots of apps and procedures for backing up GMail:
>>
>> http://goo.gl/f1PTd
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The article suggests backing up your Cloud accounts. My question is on how to do this.
>>>
>>> If you reading your cloud accounts on Mail using IMAP and your mail folders are also on the cloud, is it sufficient that you are backing up your computer which has the IMAP accounts locally?
>>>
>>> I know that on my computer I can always see the mail folders and MobileMe and the messages in my inbox. I have always figured I could go back to a TimeMachine backup to restore any message inadvertently deleted as long as the message was at some point downloaded to the desktop.
>>>
>>> However, I don't know if this is really true or if only a certain amount of information is downloaded to the desktop. For example, if I try to view my IMAP account folders using my iPad or iPhone, I can get to the older messages but they are not stored locally on the iPad or iPhone. Is this similar to what happens on my desktop.
>>>
>>> Is there something else I should be doing to back up for the cloud? Also any suggestions on how to back up Google Docs?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jay
>>> On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:33 PM, James Robertson wrote:
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Re: Why your email address gets stolen
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:25 am (PST)
> I was one of the first people in the world to be given a computer virus (not, of course, on a Mac, on a PC), in the 1990s when they first came in.
They had already been common for years by then.
We had a Commodore Amiga, and I remember helping someone with theirs, and they brought me a floppy with a virus. Around 1987-88.
> It cost me a lot of money to get rid of it.
I was already using anti-virus protection.
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Re: Why your email address gets stolen
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:42 am (PST)
On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Tim O'Donoghue wrote:
> My understanding of IMAP is that it's a "viewer" into your email on the server. You can choose, by various means, to store some or all the mail locally. The locally stored items can be backed up by your backup process.
More than a viewer. It is a mirror of what is on your computer. You delete a mail, it is deleted on the server. You create a folder, one is created on the server…etc.
I would much rather have that type of email, and most commercial, 'public' services offer that, free or not.
Harry
Harry Flaxman
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Re: Why your email address gets stolen
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:45 am (PST)
On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> hey had already been common for years by then.
> We had a Commodore Amiga, and I remember helping someone with theirs, and they brought me a floppy with a virus. Around 1987-88.
Jim,
I had been a Commodore fan since the 4k PET. The Amy actually had a virus? That's news to me.
Harry
Harry Flaxman
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Re: Why your email address gets stolen
Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net kerala01212001
Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:47 pm (PST)
Jim,
Thanks. So I guess my current backup strategies are adequate.
Jay
On Jan 9, 2012, at 11:17 AM, James Robertson wrote:
>
> On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
>
> > I know that on my computer I can always see the mail folders and MobileMe and the messages in my inbox. I have always figured I could go back to a TimeMachine backup to restore any message inadvertently deleted as long as the message was at some point downloaded to the desktop.
> >
> > However, I don't know if this is really true or if only a certain amount of information is downloaded to the desktop. For example, if I try to view my IMAP account folders using my iPad or iPhone, I can get to the older messages but they are not stored locally on the iPad or iPhone. Is this similar to what happens on my desktop.
> >
> > Is there something else I should be doing to back up for the cloud? Also any suggestions on how to back up Google Docs?
>
> I haven't flipped the switch to activate iCloud yet, but there are a few key points:
> 1. The only mail that will get coordinated there is mail on Apple's servers (.me or .mac addresses).
> 2. I think that if you have Time Machine working correctly, your ".me/.mac" IMAP folders will be backed up locally using the Time Machine, as will mail.app's IMAP folders for other accounts.
> 3. As others have noted, the scary thing about IMAP is that there's always the "potential" for catastrophic loss if your ONLY backup is the locally cached copy of received or sent mail stored within Mail.app's database of messages (if it's deleted on the server, it will be deleted from your Mail.app database next time you connect to the server).
> 4. If you're concerned about gmail, Joe Kissel has written extensively about archiving IMAP mail using gmail. Google his name and "archive gmail" and look for hits at macworld.com
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
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Re: More AppleCare Help is needed
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:10 am (PST)
>> This is Apple's explanation:
>> <http://support.apple.com/ >kb/HT4878
>
> I tried this. The location did not open.
I don't know what's up with that. Sometimes it loads for me, sometimes it doesn't.
Keep trying.
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Re: More AppleCare Help is needed
Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal
Mon Jan 9, 2012 8:22 pm (PST)
The article finally opened after numerous attempts. And it was straight out a revelation.
I printed it out to PDF for the rest of the group, if anyone wants to see. Attached it with the email.
But the interesting thing is the screen shot of my local drive right now. I've deleted more than 80 Gigabytes worth of data from my disk, just so I am able to work on a video project that is being planned. To think that I have a 500 GB drive in the computer, and I loaded only about 200 Gigs of my information here, and even if all the applications put together should be using about a 100 Gigs, I should've been having about 200 Gigs free.
Here is the status after I deleted 80 Gigs:
It shows there are 197.2 Gigs stored away in back ups - local storage. Hilariously absurd. That's more than the total amount of information I have on the computer (Audio, Movies, Photos and Apps put together). The other 84.65 GB is mysterious too - I am assuming its the program information taken up by software that doesn't show up as Apps on this scale.
Just how is anyone supposed to work on the computer if this is the intelligence running behind our system?
The article says Lion "periodically" stores away the local snapshots into daily or weekly snapshots. I opened Time Machine, and it has "Pink" snapshots going all the way back to the day I bought this machine. I wonder when the computer will have its "periods" so the local snapshots will be stored away. Or will they be?
On 09-Jan-2012, at 11:18 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> >> This is Apple's explanation:
> >> <http://support.apple.com/ >kb/HT4878
> >
> > I tried this. The location did not open.
>
> I don't know what's up with that. Sometimes it loads for me, sometimes it doesn't.
> Keep trying.
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Re: More AppleCare Help is needed
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:39 pm (PST)
> It shows there are 197.2 Gigs stored away in back ups - local storage. Hilariously absurd. That's more than the total amount of information I have on the computer (Audio, Movies, Photos and Apps put together).
Of course. That's exactly what you should expect, if no successful initial backup was previously made elsewhere.
> The article says Lion "periodically" stores away the local snapshots into daily or weekly snapshots. I opened Time Machine, and it has "Pink" snapshots going all the way back to the day I bought this machine. I wonder when the computer will have its "periods" so the local snapshots will be stored away.
If you open TM and you *are* successfully connected to the Time Capsule, you will, of course, see ALL your TM backups.
If you open TM, and you haven't EVER successfully backed up to the Time Capsule, then ALL your backups *are* on the internal hard drive, and again, you *should* see them all in TM.
This sounds to me as though your machine is *never* connecting to the Time Capsule to move data there.
If that is the case, keep in mind that transferring 200 GB of TM snapshots *wirelessly* to a Time Capsule will take a very long time. If you choose to transfer them, use an ethernet cable.
Also, "BackupLoupe" (<http://soma-zone.com/ >) will help you see what is actually being backed up on each increment. You may choose to exclude some things. I have excluded all my external drives, and I have moved my VMWare Fusion virtual machines to an external drive.BackupLoupe/
I bought a 1 terabyte Time Capsule, but have moved my TM backups to a Firewire external drive, because it seemed much faster, and more straightforward to deal with.
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Re: More AppleCare Help is needed
Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal
Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:04 pm (PST)
My Time Capsule is always connected using Ethernet. I get a successful back up every hour. Maybe in those cases, where the volume of data changed exceeds a couple of gigabytes, it takes longer. But while I am in office, I always make it a point to connect using Ethernet.
I am actually surprised that it's only been making local copies and not making a mention any place. I checked the free space on my 2TB Time Capsule hard disk, and it says 600 Gigs is used. The other Macbook Pro (Late 2011) also has about 300 Gigs used on the Time Capsule back up.
It does give a warning in case I do not connect to the Time Capsule for some time - saying, "Back up delayed". That happens when I am using the laptop outside of office.
On 10-Jan-2012, at 11:09 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> > It shows there are 197.2 Gigs stored away in back ups - local storage. Hilariously absurd. That's more than the total amount of information I have on the computer (Audio, Movies, Photos and Apps put together).
>
> Of course. That's exactly what you should expect, if no successful initial backup was previously made elsewhere.
>
> > The article says Lion "periodically" stores away the local snapshots into daily or weekly snapshots. I opened Time Machine, and it has "Pink" snapshots going all the way back to the day I bought this machine. I wonder when the computer will have its "periods" so the local snapshots will be stored away.
>
> If you open TM and you *are* successfully connected to the Time Capsule, you will, of course, see ALL your TM backups.
>
> If you open TM, and you haven't EVER successfully backed up to the Time Capsule, then ALL your backups *are* on the internal hard drive, and again, you *should* see them all in TM.
>
> This sounds to me as though your machine is *never* connecting to the Time Capsule to move data there.
>
> If that is the case, keep in mind that transferring 200 GB of TM snapshots *wirelessly* to a Time Capsule will take a very long time. If you choose to transfer them, use an ethernet cable.
>
> Also, "BackupLoupe" (<http://soma-zone.com/ >) will help you see what is actually being backed up on each increment. You may choose to exclude some things. I have excluded all my external drives, and I have moved my VMWare Fusion virtual machines to an external drive.BackupLoupe/
>
> I bought a 1 terabyte Time Capsule, but have moved my TM backups to a Firewire external drive, because it seemed much faster, and more straightforward to deal with.
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Re: More AppleCare Help is needed
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:09 pm (PST)
> My Time Capsule is always connected using Ethernet. I get a successful back up every hour. Maybe in those cases, where the volume of data changed exceeds a couple of gigabytes, it takes longer. But while I am in office, I always make it a point to connect using Ethernet.
If you are satisfied that the Time Capsule backups are complete and up to date, I would simply use the terminal command I mentioned earlier to turn off "mobile snapshots", reboot, and if they are still there, delete them by hand.
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Re: More AppleCare Help is needed
Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal
Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:14 pm (PST)
I run the command, but the free space did not change. The Others category moved up to 270 Gigabytes. Another mysterious thing.
What I am doing now is to delete my Time Machine Backups because there seems to be no recourse to things working correctly. And I have also set the main hard disk to erase the free space.
This is getting time critical for me now, since the last two hours I am just trying to delete the empty space on my drive, and I am losing important time that I should be spending on the project.
Seriously, it feels like Apple wants people to own more and more computers so the computers can be engaged in erasing the "free space". Ugh!
On 10-Jan-2012, at 11:39 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> > My Time Capsule is always connected using Ethernet. I get a successful back up every hour. Maybe in those cases, where the volume of data changed exceeds a couple of gigabytes, it takes longer. But while I am in office, I always make it a point to connect using Ethernet.
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> If you are satisfied that the Time Capsule backups are complete and up to date, I would simply use the terminal command I mentioned earlier to turn off "mobile snapshots", reboot, and if they are still there, delete them by hand.
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Re: More AppleCare Help is needed
Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com arjunsinghal
Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:50 pm (PST)
Time taken to erase free space on my hard disk, 2:20 - Started the procedure at 9:58 AM IST. It's 12:19 now.
I have 275 Gigs free now. Alas! Have disabled the local snapshot feature of Lion.
Jim, Do you know if this feature exists on the earlier build of Lion that is running on my other notebooks? Because they are also backed up using Time Machine, but don't seem to be giving this trouble.
On 10-Jan-2012, at 11:39 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> > My Time Capsule is always connected using Ethernet. I get a successful back up every hour. Maybe in those cases, where the volume of data changed exceeds a couple of gigabytes, it takes longer. But while I am in office, I always make it a point to connect using Ethernet.
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> If you are satisfied that the Time Capsule backups are complete and up to date, I would simply use the terminal command I mentioned earlier to turn off "mobile snapshots", reboot, and if they are still there, delete them by hand.
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Re: MacBook Air SuperDrive usable on other Macs
Posted by: "Tim O'Donoghue" tjod@drizzle.net timodonoghue
Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:54 pm (PST)
Thanks for this excellent bit of info, Jurgen. Works like a charm.
FWIW, I am using it on a 15" 2010 MacBook Pro OS 10.7.2, 8 GB RAM. Original HDD swapped into Superdrive bay via Data Doubler, added 240 GB OWC SSD drive as boot drive for Mac and Bootcamp. (Fastest Windows 7 machine I've ever used…!)
Tim
On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Jurgen Richter wrote:
> For any of you who have one of those slick and slim MacBookAir
> SuperDrives (with the short cord), you can use it on other Macs once you
> follow the instructions below.
> I found this on the web and it works on my Mac Pro Tower. I hoped I
> could use it on one of my other Windows tablets too, but no dice. It's
> just easier to buy a Windows unit, or a Lacie or some other brand.
>
> http://www.hardturm.ch/luz/2011/ 10/how-to- make-the- macbook-air- superdrive- work-with- any-mac/
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