1/08/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8667

Messages In This Digest (17 Messages)

1a.
Re: '2func' needed ??? From: Jim Showalter
1b.
Re: '2func' needed ??? From: Barry Austern
1c.
Re: '2func' needed ??? From: Harry Flaxman
1d.
Re: '2func' needed ??? From: Harry Flaxman
1e.
Re: '2func' needed ??? From: Denver Dan
1f.
Re: '2func' needed ??? From: Denver Dan
1g.
Re: '2func' needed ??? From: Keith Whaley
1h.
Re: '2func' needed ??? From: Keith Whaley
1i.
Re: '2func' needed ??? From: Keith Whaley
2a.
Re: "Compatible" Printer Cartridges From: Andrew Buc
2b.
Re: "Compatible" Printer Cartridges From: Harry Flaxman
2c.
Re: "Compatible" Printer Cartridges From: Doug Yelmen
3a.
Re: Lion Invisible Files Experience From: Daly Jessup
4a.
Re: Database Alternatives From: Les Streater
4b.
Re: Database Alternatives From: Otto Nikolaus
5.
Compatible Replacement for Canon Ink Cartridge for the i9900///Part From: Doug Yelmen
6a.
Re: PDF hyperlinks in Mail 4.5 From: Alan Fry

Messages

1a.

Re: '2func' needed ???

Posted by: "Jim Showalter" jshowalt@mindspring.com   jshowalt94127

Sat Jan 7, 2012 1:44 pm (PST)




On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
>> I (almost) never <Control><Click> on my trackpad, and trackpads are becoming more and more prevalent.
>
> Yeah, an aside here: I rushed out and bought a Magic Trackpad as soon as it came out. Kinda sorry I did. It is not as intuitive an interface as I would have liked. I've used it for months and months, but have gone back to the mouse.
>
> Harry

At 72 yrs of age, I find the trackpad the most intuitive interface. Maybe when I get an iPhone with Siri I may find that more so.

1b.

Re: '2func' needed ???

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sat Jan 7, 2012 1:51 pm (PST)



At 12:37 PM -0800 1/7/12, Keith Whaley wrote:

>
>
>Denver Dan wrote:
>> Howdy.
>>
>> The carat symbol, ^, found on the 6 key on the top number row, has for
>> decades been a standard character that represents "Control."
>
>In which case, why would anyone repeat the command " ^ " as well as the
>word Control, if they mean the same thing.
>Sighhh.

That is incorrect. It should be one or the other,
either control-X or ^x, with maybe control
abbreviated as something such as ctrl. To use
both is like what you often incorrectly see in
stores where they offer items for 25 cents as
.25¢. It is either $.25 or 25¢. I've never,
though, had the guts to demand four for a penny
as advertised.

>My Mac keyboard doesn't have a Carat on the same key as says Command.
>If it's all that important, leave it on, eh?

That would be incorrect. A 200mg weight on the
command key would be too heavy. What you mean is
caret, not carat. Furthermore, it would be wrong
in another way. The caret is for the control key,
not the command key. However, I have never seen a
keyboard that does have that symbol on the
control key. The caret prefix is used in
shorthand when writing it out. This very long
predates Apple computers or, actually, ANY
personal computers. Control characters were used
in the old teletype machines to (are you sitting
down?) CONTROL things. ^M is a carriage return,
^H a back space, etc.

The Mac has four different modifier keys. Each
has a symbol when you are writing about it. The
propeller means the command key, an up-arrow the
shift key, the caret the control key and the
symbol you give later the option key.

>I mean, my Command key still has the 'propeller", but the Option key has
>shed the oddball symbol <  > that used to be on that key.
>
>No consistency...

Furthermore, the newest Apple keyboards have shed
the open apple on the command key, a holdover
from the Apple ][, which had that key and the
option key was a closed Apple. There was quite a
ruckus back when the IIgs was released and its
keyboard had "option" rather than the closed
Apple. In other words, renaming keys is nothing
new.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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1c.

Re: '2func' needed ???

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Sat Jan 7, 2012 1:55 pm (PST)



On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>>> I (almost) never <Control><Click> on my trackpad, and trackpads are becoming more and more prevalent.
>>
>> Yeah, an aside here: I rushed out and bought a Magic Trackpad as soon as it came out. Kinda sorry I did. It is not as intuitive an interface as I would have liked. I've used it for months and months, but have gone back to the mouse.
>>
>> Harry
>
> My personal Macs have been laptops, staring with the "Wallstreet" G3 in 1998. All have had trackpads.
>
> Last year, when need for repair/service took it away, I lived with the MacPro in the other room, and almost *immediately* ran out and bought an Apple trackpad, so I could continue working that way.
>
> Strokes/folks/different

Years ago, when I came to depend upon a Gateway notebook, I did use it and didn't think twice of it. Now, with all of the extra gestures available, I have a hard time with it. Initially, my Magic Trackpad had a gesture that operated nicely, tap twice on the top portion of the pad and the window below was 'glued' to the mouse cursor until one tapped again. I have never been able to figure out how to configure that again. Dragging is a nuisance to me now.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

1d.

Re: '2func' needed ???

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Sat Jan 7, 2012 1:56 pm (PST)



On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Jim Showalter wrote:

> On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>
>>> I (almost) never <Control><Click> on my trackpad, and trackpads are becoming more and more prevalent.
>>
>> Yeah, an aside here: I rushed out and bought a Magic Trackpad as soon as it came out. Kinda sorry I did. It is not as intuitive an interface as I would have liked. I've used it for months and months, but have gone back to the mouse.
>>
>> Harry
>
> At 72 yrs of age, I find the trackpad the most intuitive interface. Maybe when I get an iPhone with Siri I may find that more so.

I guess, like other means, I could pick it up again. As I mentioned in my prior post, when I lost the most helpful gesture, not knowing how to get it back, my trackpad and I parted company.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

1e.

Re: '2func' needed ???

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sat Jan 7, 2012 2:58 pm (PST)



Howdy.

The caret symbol is not on the control key. It's on the number 6 key.

The caret is a symbol that represents the Control key.

Using both the ^ and the word "Control" is probably just an old habit
and also probably done by someone wanting to make this clearer.
Shouldn't be a problem.

Denver Dan

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:37:39 -0800, Keith Whaley wrote:
> My Mac keyboard doesn't have a Carat on the same key as says Command.
> If it's all that important, leave it on, eh?

1f.

Re: '2func' needed ???

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:02 pm (PST)



Howdy.

You are referring to a symbol used in writing characters in some
languages.

This is not the same as the caret symbol for computer use. The two
characters are even somewhat differently shaped.

The circumflex should be available if you press Shift Option i.

If you will open your Keyboard Viewer, you will see the caret symbol on
the Control key.

Denver Dan

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:11:12 -0800, Keith Whaley wrote:
> I accessed my copy of "PopChar" and find they identify the " ^ " symbol
> as a "Circumflex Accent".

1g.

Re: '2func' needed ???

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:29 pm (PST)



Jim Saklad wrote:
> > I prefer "control-click", though, because it works with all Mac OSes
> > and hardware and is something many Mac users know from long
> > experience.
> > Otto

> I (almost) never <Control><Click> on my trackpad, and trackpads are
> becoming more and more prevalent.

Sad to say. Sighhh.

keith

1h.

Re: '2func' needed ???

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:35 pm (PST)



Jim Saklad wrote:
> >> Why not use the term "control-click"? It already exists, and
> accurately describes the "secondary" click function.
> >
> > Which brings up a question:
> > I've recently noticed messages which talk about pressing
> > "^Control-click".
> >
> > What's the purpose of the carat before Cpntrol? For a time I supposed
> it might mean Shift, but it doesn't.
> >
> > keith whaley
>
> Typo?
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com <mailto:jimdoc%40me.com>

Yeah, the "Cpntrol" is. Also, I meant "caret" not "carat". Sighhh.

1i.

Re: '2func' needed ???

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:54 pm (PST)



Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> You are referring to a symbol used in writing characters in some
> languages.
>
> This is not the same as the caret symbol for computer use. The two
> characters are even somewhat differently shaped.
>
> The circumflex should be available if you press Shift Option i.
>
> If you will open your Keyboard Viewer, you will see the caret symbol on
> the Control key.
>
> Denver Dan

Shift-Option-i gives me this symbol: Ì›

Which is not at all like the ^ above the 6.

Also, my Keyboard Viewer will not open for some reason. Sighhh.

keith

2a.

Re: "Compatible" Printer Cartridges

Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net   andrewbuc

Sat Jan 7, 2012 1:56 pm (PST)



I'm getting good results in my Canon iP3500 with cartridges from this
company:

http://www.ldproducts.com/

2b.

Re: "Compatible" Printer Cartridges

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Sat Jan 7, 2012 1:58 pm (PST)



Amazingly enough, the only place I can get 3rd party carts for my HP is on eBay, from an oriental distributor. They work well, however, the printer complains of counterfeit cartridges and warns of a voided warrantee after using them.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

2c.

Re: "Compatible" Printer Cartridges

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:37 pm (PST)



as a result of Randy's recommendations, your recommendation, and what i read on the site for Canon i9900 printer inks,
i have ordered a multiset for what i would have paid for 4-5 Canon cartridges.

Thanks, everyone!

doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

"Truthful words are not beautiful; beautiful words are not truthful. Good words are not persuasive; persuasive words are not good." ~ Lao Tzu

On Jan 7, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Andrew Buc wrote:

> I'm getting good results in my Canon iP3500 with cartridges from this
> company:
>
> http://www.ldproducts.com/
>
>
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3a.

Re: Lion Invisible Files Experience

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com

Sat Jan 7, 2012 2:22 pm (PST)



On Jan 7, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Denver dan wrote:

> Last night I opened my Documents folder. All of the filed in the folder were OK.
>
> But if I clicked on any sub folder in Documents, it was pry of files, no icons, no sub sub folders.
>
> It turned out that ALL folders had suddenly become empty. Applications, Pictures, Music..All.
>
> A Time Machine Restore I tried for one folder reported it would over write the original files.
>
> Dock items still launched invisible app or opened the file.
>
> Get Info showed space taken in folders.
>
> A restart fixed the problem.
>
> Anyone have a similar Lion experience?

Yes, I was helping a friend this weekend with her new iMac and suddenly we could not see the contents several key folders, such as the Documents folder. To me, this is obviously a Lion problem. This is her first experience with Lion, and it wasn't very nice.

Daly
4a.

Re: Database Alternatives

Posted by: "Les Streater" lesstreater@marpubs.demon.co.uk   linernutuk

Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:10 pm (PST)




>On 7 Jan 2012, at 20:36, Tod Hopkins wrote:

>Looks like a nice, simple, flat-file database that syncs with iPhone/iPad. And half off of $15 is hard to resist. If it could sync with others copies on a LAN, i'd be buying five-packs.

On a personal note, I downloaded iDatabase twice last month.

Each time it did weird things to my iMac. Permanent spinningbeachball, blocked finder, etc. Each time the only thing I could do was a forced power off. In the end I deleted it and forgot about databases....

I am sure other people have downloaded this successfully. I just make this comment for other people to be aware that there "may" be problems with downloading this program.

Les Streater
www.lesstreater.com

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4b.

Re: Database Alternatives

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sun Jan 8, 2012 4:00 am (PST)



On 7 January 2012 23:10, Les Streater <lesstreater@marpubs.demon.co.uk>wrote:

>
> On a personal note, I downloaded iDatabase twice last month.
>
> Each time it did weird things to my iMac. Permanent spinningbeachball,
> blocked finder, etc. Each time the only thing I could do was a forced power
> off. In the end I deleted it and forgot about databases....
>
> I am sure other people have downloaded this successfully. I just make this
> comment for other people to be aware that there "may" be problems with
> downloading this program.
>

Open Office/NeoOffice/LibreOffice includes a database app. I haven't used
it myself but I assume it does what most people need from a simple db app.

Otto

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5.

Compatible Replacement for Canon Ink Cartridge for the i9900///Part

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Sat Jan 7, 2012 3:43 pm (PST)



We offer an 18-pack of Compatible Canon ink cartridges in this BCI6 JUMBO Set that includes 4 Black (BCI6bk), & 2 each of Cyan (BCI6C), Magenta (BCI6m), Yellow (BCI6y), Photo Cyan (BCI6PC), Photo Magenta (BCI6PM), Green (BCI6G) and Red (BCI6R). These compatible Inkjet cartridges replace OEM Canon ink cartridges without sacrificing quality and performance. With our 100% Satisfaction Guarantee, our Compatible Canon cartridges are an excellent alternative to OEM Canon cartridges, delivering beautifully clear, crisp printouts you can depend on.

all of the above cost me $49.00 plus S&H (could have gotten it for free had i spent 1 penny more) and CA taxes.

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6a.

Re: PDF hyperlinks in Mail 4.5

Posted by: "Alan Fry" ajf@afco.demon.co.uk   alanjohnfry

Sun Jan 8, 2012 3:54 am (PST)




On 7 Jan 2012, at 10:27, Island Center for the Arts wrote:

> I have created a test PDF document for emailing that contains links to websites.
>
> The links all work when I open the PDF in Preview after exporting it to the desktop from InDesign and/or Pages.
> If I email the PDF to myself as a test, the links don't work. Clicking on a link highlights the entire PDF.
> The links all work in Safari when opened from the desktop.
> I suspect that the problem is in Mail 4.5 but I'm not sure.
>

Certainly this is how Mail.app 4.5 behaves.

> Perhaps someone can offer a solution?
>

You can add a link to text by a 'ctrl-click' on the text and selecting 'Link... -> Add Link'. Clicking that brings up a dialog into which you can type the URL. Provided Mail is set to 'Mail->Preferences->Composing->Rich Text' the link will be added to the selected text. The selected text appears to the recipient in the usual HTML form (i.e. usually underlined in blue) and is clickable in the usual HTML way.

It is also possible to add links in this way to 'signatures' (Mail->Preferences->Signatures), and a single 'signature' can consist of a whole list of (clickable) URLs. Adding such a 'signature' to an email should do pretty much what you wanted to do with the PDF URL list.

The drawbacks to this scheme are firstly that it only works if Mail is set to compose in RTF, and secondly that the text only version of the email does not include the link. Hence any recipients who can only read pure text emails will miss out.

Alan Fry

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