5/14/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8899

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1a.

Re: Mail program trouble

Posted by: "Bekah" bekah0176@sbcglobal.net   bekalex

Sun May 13, 2012 6:08 am (PDT)



Try Preferences > General > Dock Unread Count. I have All Mailboxes set and all mailboxes have numbers with an unread count on the icon in the dock.

Bekah

On May 13, 2012, at 3:41 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> On 13 May 2012 01:23, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ooops. Incorrect. I was NOT the OP. perhaps I answered out of turn? Sorry.
>>
>> No, I am on iMac, OS 10.6.8, SeaMonkey 2.9.1
>>
>
> No, my mistake, but does your Mail *not* have a Mailbox menu?
> :)
> Otto
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Re: Mail program trouble

Posted by: "W5GXL Dean" W5GXL.Dean@gmail.com   w5gxl_dean

Sun May 13, 2012 6:17 am (PDT)



Thank you..
After the Rebuild on each account I am now getting the "unread message count".
Don't know what I did to mess it up ...
When I started up the new MB Air it downloaded from GMail over 170,500 messages.
It took for ever to get rid of all of them...
The Cloud picked them up too and if I would trash them it would bring them back.
I had to go into GMail and get rid of them all.. Gerrrrrr
Thank you again all of you..
Dean W5gxl

On May 13, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Bekah wrote:

> Try Preferences > General > Dock Unread Count. I have All Mailboxes set and all mailboxes have numbers with an unread count on the icon in the dock.
>
> Bekah
>
> On May 13, 2012, at 3:41 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
> > On 13 May 2012 01:23, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Ooops. Incorrect. I was NOT the OP. perhaps I answered out of turn? Sorry.
> >>
> >> No, I am on iMac, OS 10.6.8, SeaMonkey 2.9.1
> >>
> >
> > No, my mistake, but does your Mail *not* have a Mailbox menu?
> > :)
> > Otto
> >
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Re: Mail program trouble

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Sun May 13, 2012 7:19 am (PDT)



Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> On 13 May 2012 01:23, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:keith_w%40dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>
> >
> > Ooops. Incorrect. I was NOT the OP. perhaps I answered out of turn?
> Sorry.
> >
> > No, I am on iMac, OS 10.6.8, SeaMonkey 2.9.1
> >
>
> No, my mistake, but does your Mail *not* have a Mailbox menu?
> :)
> Otto

Nossir. I do not use Apple's Mail program.
I use SeaMonkey® to access my mail and newsgroups messages, and I have
no Mailbox menu, per se, and I cannot find a Rebuild option anywhere.

My SM mail program has File/Compact Folders Perhaps that's akin to
Mail's Rebuild?

Anyhow, I answered out of turn, and usurped the OP's time on the stage.
I really do know better than to insert a fork in the road to
understanding. Next time I'll keep quiet when I don't have anything to
contribute to the Subject resolution. No, really. Look how much of your
time I've wasted, when you could have been addressing "Mail"
idiosyncrasies.

Back to w5gxl_dean's problem, please.

keith whaley

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2.1.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "Michel Munger" michel@macsupportcentral.com   mmungermtl

Sun May 13, 2012 7:27 am (PDT)



That's a lot of ideas. I'll check them out!

Michel

Randy B. Singer said:

> Contactizer Pro ($120)
> http://www.objective-decision.com/en/products/contactizerpro/
> syncs with iDevices
>
> CoBook (free)
> http://www.cobookapp.com/
> also synchronizes with iDevices.
>
> Contact Book ($5)
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/contact-book/id441205331?mt=12
> http://ilifetouch.com/ContactBook
>
> Private Contact ($7)
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/private-contact/id415621284?mt=12
> http://www.pomola.com/products_privatecontact/
>
> InTouch With $60
> http://www.intouchwith.com/pages/intouchwith.html
>
> SOHO Organizer ($100)
> http://www.chronosnet.com/Products/sohoorganizer.html
>
> InTouch With ($60)
> Prairie Group
> http://www.intouchwith.com/pages/intouchwith.html
>
> SBook5 (free)
> http://www.sbook5.com/

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2.2.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Sun May 13, 2012 1:12 pm (PDT)




On May 13, 2012, at 2:14 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

> Most users use a message from an existing thread to start a new
> thread because it is quick and easy.
>
> Here's an easy way to start a new thread (in Mail) by using a message
> from an existing thread, yet not screw up threading for folks on the
> list.
>
> Open a message from the list (it doesn't matter what the subject line
> of the thread is.)
>
> Right-click, or Control-click on the "To" line in the e-mail message
> (which should be the mailing address for the discussion list.)
> A pop-up menu will give you a number of choices. Choose: "New Message."
>
> Choose a new, descriptive subject line.

I find that it is not even necessary to click on the "To" line - it is enough just to hover the cursor over the "To" address and the dropdown menu appears.

Daly
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2.3.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun May 13, 2012 8:53 pm (PDT)




On May 13, 2012, at 3:49 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

Thanks, Randy. There are various ways of doing this, and some depend on
which email client or webmail you are using, but the crucial factor is not
to simply reply and change the Subject Line.

Otto

Exactly!!!! That is what causes the problems with threads and the No Sender, No Subject emails on iDevices.
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3.

Can't update "vulnerable" Java in Firefox

Posted by: "Michel Munger" michel@macsupportcentral.com   mmungermtl

Sun May 13, 2012 7:44 am (PDT)



Hi everyone,

I used Mozilla's plugin check this morning at:

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/

And it said that my Java Applet Plug-In was vulnerable, in need of an
update.

I followed the "update now" link and you are essentially told that you
need to get new versions through Apple software updates.

I'm under the latest Lion and the Software Update module says that
everything is up to date.

Isn't it strange?

Michel

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4.1.

Macbook Pro 2008 & dvd drive question

Posted by: "Amy Williamson" grant.amy.williamson@gmail.com   dosbabe

Sun May 13, 2012 8:14 am (PDT)



I have no cd/dv in my drive, but when I try to insert a cd into the
drive, it acts like something is still in there.
I have used disk utility, finder etc and it shows the drive is empty.
What else could be keeping me from inserting a cd/dvd?

Amy from WA
HL-DT-ST DVDRW GSA-S10N:

Firmware Revision: AP12
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds

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4.2.

Re: Macbook Pro 2008 & dvd drive question

Posted by: "John E Bastin" jbastin1@me.com   jbastin0001

Sun May 13, 2012 8:38 am (PDT)




On May 13, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Amy Williamson wrote:

> I have no cd/dv in my drive, but when I try to insert a cd into the
> drive, it acts like something is still in there.
> I have used disk utility, finder etc and it shows the drive is empty.
> What else could be keeping me from inserting a cd/dvd?
>
> Amy from WA
> HL-DT-ST DVDRW GSA-S10N:
>
> Firmware Revision: AP12
> Interconnect: ATAPI
> Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
> Cache: 2048 KB
> Reads DVD: Yes
> CD-Write: -R, -RW
> DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
> Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
> Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds

If it really won't allow you to insert a disc in the drive slot, maybe there is something in there that for whatever reason, won't mount so it's visible to the computer.

I would shut down the computer, then start it up again while holding down the Eject key (at the right end of the row of Function keys). Keep holding that key down, and see if it eventually ejects something before finally getting to the Desktop.

Hope this helps.

John Bastin
bastinj@gmail.com

MacBook Pro 2.8GHz (17-inch)
8 GB RAM
500GB Seagate Hybrid HDD
Mac OS X 10.7.3

iPad 2 WiFi 64GB
iOS 5.1

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4.3.

Re: Macbook Pro 2008 & dvd drive question

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sun May 13, 2012 9:02 am (PDT)



Howdy.

Computers that have what is called a "slot loading" DVD/CD
burner/player optical drive often see these drives break down and fail
mechanically. Macintosh laptops and iMacs and Minis have the slot
loading optical drives.

Apple's slot loading optical drives, in particular, seem to have a bad
reputation and a well deserved one. I've had one break in my house,
have neighbors that have had them break, and have read here of many
with the same problem.

I've know of many people who have had to replace the slot loading
optical drive due to failure.

The other type of DVD/CD burner/player is called a "tray loading"
optical drive and these seem to work much better and have fewer break
downs.

I have a tray loading DVD burner in my MacPro tower that is still
working fine after burning hundreds of CDs and DVDs.

An option is to by an external tray loading DVD/CD burner that connects
to FW and/or USB. This lets you shift it from computer to computer as
needed.

External DVD/CD burners (tray loading) can be found for low prices.
Other World Computing, for example, has one for sale for $51.00 USD.
<http://eshop.macsales.com/>

Denver Dan

On Sun, 13 May 2012 08:14:08 -0700, Amy Williamson wrote:
> I have no cd/dv in my drive, but when I try to insert a cd into the
> drive, it acts like something is still in there.
> I have used disk utility, finder etc and it shows the drive is empty.
> What else could be keeping me from inserting a cd/dvd?
>
> Amy from WA
> HL-DT-ST DVDRW GSA-S10N:

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4.4.

Re: Macbook Pro 2008 & dvd drive question

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Sun May 13, 2012 1:06 pm (PDT)




On May 13, 2012, at 8:37 AM, John E Bastin wrote:

> re is something in there that for whatever reason, won't mount so it's visible to the computer.
>
> I would shut down the computer, then start it up again while holding down the Eject key (at the right end of the row of Function keys). Keep holding that key down, and see if it eventually ejects something before finally getting to the Desktop.

Yes, or restart while holding (and continuing to hold) the left mouse button down.

Daly
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5a.

Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD?

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sun May 13, 2012 9:16 am (PDT)



At 2:28 AM -0400 5/13/12, Dane Robison wrote:

>
>Thanks Barry; it never even crossed my mind to
>try this, but sure enoughŠit won't boot from my
>drive either. So that puts us squarely in the
>"something is badly wrong" scenario.
>
>What now?

Assuming you have an Apple Store reasonably handy
make an appointment at the Genius Bar, and they
will either give you good news or help you
perform last rites. Wish I could be more sanguine
for you.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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5b.

Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun May 13, 2012 8:45 pm (PDT)



Dane,

From the Adata site, the SSD seems to be aimed at Windows, which means you will have to reformat it like Barry said.

Brent

On May 12, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Barry Austern wrote:

One more thing to try: Reverse which machine is
in Target disk mode. In other words, boot the
known-good one in Target Disk mode, connect it to
the suspect machine, and see if it can boot from
that. Conceivably the problem is not with the
drive but with the machine. Two possibilities
here. One is that it won't boot from the attached
machine, in which case you know that something is
badly wrong. If it will boot from the attached
machine then run Disk Utility from the attached
hard drive (i.e. the other machine) and
repartition the new drive, making sure it is with
the GUID format. Conceivably you never did that,
which is why it is not bootable. It probably
could have booted from an APM drive, but will not
if it was formatted with a PC-standard format.
Once you have done that then clone the known-good
drive to the internal SSD, and then sacrifice
either a goat or a chicken. I forget which of the
two animals is the one which you have to do.

At 8:32 PM -0400 5/12/12, Dane Robison wrote:

>Just the latest in a rash of dead hard drives in
>our home�my wife's white MacBook is on the
>fritz. I didn't want to invest too much in it at
>this point, and bought her an Adata SSD (S510
>series 120GB) but I can't figure out where to
>begin.
>
>Normally, I'd clone the old drive to the new
>one, install the new one, and be done. The old
>drive won't cooperate, though, so I figured I'd
>rely on her Time Machine backup to get her back
>to where she needs to be. But I'm stumped as to
>how I can get started because I first need to
>get OS X installed on the new drive.
>
>She was running Leopard, and we have the Leopard
>install DVD but her optical drive (just like 4
>of the 5 MacBooks in our home) won't read the
>install disc. No big deal, right? Good excuse to
>upgrade her to Lion. So I purchased Lion on my
>MacBook Pro and created a bootable USB drive. I
>plugged the USB drive into her MacBook and
>started up�except it wouldn't. I got to the
>screen that lets me select the startup drive
>(the USB drive was the only choice) chose it,
>and got a dark gray "no entry" sign (circle with
>a line through it) on a light gray screen. After
>several seconds, the MacBook shut down on its
>own.
>
>Ok, next idea. I connected our laptops together
>via firewire and started hers in target disk
>mode. I ran the Lion installer from my machine,
>installing to the new SSD in her machine.
>Success! I then shut everything down,
>disconnected it all, and tried to start her
>MacBook. Result? The same circle with a line
>through it.
>
>What am I doing wrong? Surely it's possible to
>install Lion to a blank new drive!?!? Why can't
>I boot up?
>
>Thanks for any ideas you all can throw my way!
>
>Dane
>

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Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD?

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Sun May 13, 2012 9:50 pm (PDT)



Hi Brent,

Yeah, I neglected to mention it, but when I first connected our laptops together (prior to installing Lion on her new drive) I reformatted and repartitioned the new drive using Mac OS Extended Journaled and GUID. I came up with one other possibility today�this *may* be a Core Duo MacBook, and isn't Core 2 Duo the minimum for Lion? I don't know how to tell without booting it up.

Dane

On May 13, 2012, at 11:45 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> Dane,
>
> From the Adata site, the SSD seems to be aimed at Windows, which means you will have to reformat it like Barry said.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On May 12, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Barry Austern wrote:
>
> One more thing to try: Reverse which machine is
> in Target disk mode. In other words, boot the
> known-good one in Target Disk mode, connect it to
> the suspect machine, and see if it can boot from
> that. Conceivably the problem is not with the
> drive but with the machine. Two possibilities
> here. One is that it won't boot from the attached
> machine, in which case you know that something is
> badly wrong. If it will boot from the attached
> machine then run Disk Utility from the attached
> hard drive (i.e. the other machine) and
> repartition the new drive, making sure it is with
> the GUID format. Conceivably you never did that,
> which is why it is not bootable. It probably
> could have booted from an APM drive, but will not
> if it was formatted with a PC-standard format.
> Once you have done that then clone the known-good
> drive to the internal SSD, and then sacrifice
> either a goat or a chicken. I forget which of the
> two animals is the one which you have to do.
>
> At 8:32 PM -0400 5/12/12, Dane Robison wrote:
>
>> Just the latest in a rash of dead hard drives in
>> our home�my wife's white MacBook is on the
>> fritz. I didn't want to invest too much in it at
>> this point, and bought her an Adata SSD (S510
>> series 120GB) but I can't figure out where to
>> begin.
>>
>> Normally, I'd clone the old drive to the new
>> one, install the new one, and be done. The old
>> drive won't cooperate, though, so I figured I'd
>> rely on her Time Machine backup to get her back
>> to where she needs to be. But I'm stumped as to
>> how I can get started because I first need to
>> get OS X installed on the new drive.
>>
>> She was running Leopard, and we have the Leopard
>> install DVD but her optical drive (just like 4
>> of the 5 MacBooks in our home) won't read the
>> install disc. No big deal, right? Good excuse to
>> upgrade her to Lion. So I purchased Lion on my
>> MacBook Pro and created a bootable USB drive. I
>> plugged the USB drive into her MacBook and
>> started up�except it wouldn't. I got to the
>> screen that lets me select the startup drive
>> (the USB drive was the only choice) chose it,
>> and got a dark gray "no entry" sign (circle with
>> a line through it) on a light gray screen. After
>> several seconds, the MacBook shut down on its
>> own.
>>
>> Ok, next idea. I connected our laptops together
>> via firewire and started hers in target disk
>> mode. I ran the Lion installer from my machine,
>> installing to the new SSD in her machine.
>> Success! I then shut everything down,
>> disconnected it all, and tried to start her
>> MacBook. Result? The same circle with a line
>> through it.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong? Surely it's possible to
>> install Lion to a blank new drive!?!? Why can't
>> I boot up?
>>
>> Thanks for any ideas you all can throw my way!
>>
>> Dane

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5d.

Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD?

Posted by: "John E Bastin" jbastin1@me.com   jbastin0001

Mon May 14, 2012 5:16 am (PDT)




On May 14, 2012, at 12:50 AM, Dane Robison wrote:

> Yeah, I neglected to mention it, but when I first connected our laptops together (prior to installing Lion on her new drive) I reformatted and repartitioned the new drive using Mac OS Extended Journaled and GUID. I came up with one other possibility today�this *may* be a Core Duo MacBook, and isn't Core 2 Duo the minimum for Lion? I don't know how to tell without booting it up.

I can tell you from the serial number.

John Bastin
bastinj@gmail.com

MacBook Pro 2.8GHz (17-inch)
8 GB RAM
500GB Seagate Hybrid HDD
Mac OS X 10.7.4

iPad 2 WiFi 64GB
iOS 5.1

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5e.

Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD?

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Mon May 14, 2012 5:23 am (PDT)



Ha! I just looked it up on EveryMac.com and, sure enough, she has the Core Duo model. Not the news I was hoping for, but it sheds a lot of light on these problems! Now I just need to find a way to get Snow Leopard from the DVD installer onto a Mac with a bad DVD drive!

Thanks,
Dane

On May 14, 2012, at 8:16 AM, John E Bastin wrote:

> On May 14, 2012, at 12:50 AM, Dane Robison wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I neglected to mention it, but when I first connected our laptops together (prior to installing Lion on her new drive) I reformatted and repartitioned the new drive using Mac OS Extended Journaled and GUID. I came up with one other possibility today�this *may* be a Core Duo MacBook, and isn't Core 2 Duo the minimum for Lion? I don't know how to tell without booting it up.
>
> I can tell you from the serial number.
>
>
> John Bastin
> bastinj@gmail.com

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5f.

Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD?

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Mon May 14, 2012 6:11 am (PDT)



Howdy.

This Apple page lists the minimum requirements for installing Mac OS X
10.7 Lion.

<http://www.apple.com/macosx/how-to-buy/>

Step 1: Make sure your Mac can run Lion.

Your Mac must have an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or
Xeon processor to run Lion. Find out if your current Mac has one of
these processors by clicking the Apple icon at the top left of your
screen, then choosing About This Mac.

Denver Dan

On Mon, 14 May 2012 00:50:16 -0400, Dane Robison wrote:
> Yeah, I neglected to mention it, but when I first connected our
> laptops together (prior to installing Lion on her new drive) I
> reformatted and repartitioned the new drive using Mac OS Extended
> Journaled and GUID. I came up with one other possibility today…this
> *may* be a Core Duo MacBook, and isn't Core 2 Duo the minimum for
> Lion? I don't know how to tell without booting it up.
>
> Dane
>
> On May 13, 2012, at 11:45 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
>> Dane,
>>
>> From the Adata site, the SSD seems to be aimed at Windows, which
>> means you will have to reformat it like Barry said.
>>
>> Brent
>>

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Re: Persistent 64-Bit Boot Terminal Command

Posted by: "Harold Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sun May 13, 2012 12:54 pm (PDT)





On May 12, 2012, at 01:05 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

Because not everyone is running Lion.

On Sat, 12 May 2012 14:53:54 -0400, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> On 5/12/2012 2:31 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>> Howdy.
>>
>> This is a worthwhile article from Apple's KB on how to use Terminal to
>> set a "persistent" default for booting into 64-bit kernel boot mode.
>>
>> This means that after issuing this command in Terminal you won't have
>> to press the 6 and 4 keys to have Mac boot into 64-bit mode every time
>> you boot.
>
> My understanding was that, by default, Lion boots into 64 bit kernel
> mode. I understand wanting to switch to 32 bit mode from time to time
> for some, but why issue a persistent command for 64 bit mode when the os
> inherently boots 64?
 

I understand that, however, even Apple mentions that this is applicable to Lion.  I can understand switching from persistent 32 bit to persistent 64 in Lion, but I've never been into 32 bit since 64 bit kernel became an option.  I haven't come across any of my software that has 32 bit extensions, and I have quite a bit of commercial software as well as games.

H

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Re: Persistent 64-Bit Boot Terminal Command

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Sun May 13, 2012 2:42 pm (PDT)



Harold Flaxman wrote:
>
>
> On May 12, 2012, at 01:05 PM, Denver Dan<denver.dan@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> Because not everyone is running Lion.
>
>
> On Sat, 12 May 2012 14:53:54 -0400, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>> On 5/12/2012 2:31 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> This is a worthwhile article from Apple's KB on how to use
>>> Terminal to set a "persistent" default for booting into 64-bit
>>> kernel boot mode.
>>>
>>> This means that after issuing this command in Terminal you won't
>>> have to press the 6 and 4 keys to have Mac boot into 64-bit mode
>>> every time you boot.

>> My understanding was that, by default, Lion boots into 64 bit
>> kernel mode. I understand wanting to switch to 32 bit mode from
>> time to time for some, but why issue a persistent command for 64
>> bit mode when the os inherently boots 64?

> I understand that, however, even Apple mentions that this is
> applicable to Lion. I can understand switching from persistent 32
> bit to persistent 64 in Lion, but I've never been into 32 bit since
> 64 bit kernel became an option. I haven't come across any of my
> software that has 32 bit extensions, and I have quite a bit of
> commercial software as well as games.
>
> H

I'm reading into what you said, that when I make the switch from my
mid-'07 iMac with OS 10.6.8, to a brand new iMac with Lion already
onboard will be relatively painless?

You may not be willing to go that far, but... feel free. I'm going to
make the move anyhow, just checking around to see what to expect...

Thanks,

keith whaley

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6c.

Re: Persistent 64-Bit Boot Terminal Command

Posted by: "Harold Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sun May 13, 2012 6:03 pm (PDT)





On May 13, 2012, at 02:42 PM, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote:

Harold Flaxman wrote:
>
>
> On May 12, 2012, at 01:05 PM, Denver Dan<denver.dan@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> Because not everyone is running Lion.
>
>
> On Sat, 12 May 2012 14:53:54 -0400, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>> On 5/12/2012 2:31 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> This is a worthwhile article from Apple's KB on how to use
>>> Terminal to set a "persistent" default for booting into 64-bit
>>> kernel boot mode.
>>>
>>> This means that after issuing this command in Terminal you won't
>>> have to press the 6 and 4 keys to have Mac boot into 64-bit mode
>>> every time you boot.

>> My understanding was that, by default, Lion boots into 64 bit
>> kernel mode. I understand wanting to switch to 32 bit mode from
>> time to time for some, but why issue a persistent command for 64
>> bit mode when the os inherently boots 64?

> I understand that, however, even Apple mentions that this is
> applicable to Lion. I can understand switching from persistent 32
> bit to persistent 64 in Lion, but I've never been into 32 bit since
> 64 bit kernel became an option. I haven't come across any of my
> software that has 32 bit extensions, and I have quite a bit of
> commercial software as well as games.
>
> H

I'm reading into what you said, that when I make the switch from my
mid-'07 iMac with OS 10.6.8, to a brand new iMac with Lion already
onboard will be relatively painless?

You may not be willing to go that far, but... feel free. I'm going to
make the move anyhow, just checking around to see what to expect...
 

It may or may not.  I would check your software for Lion compatibility.  There are some apps out there to do this.  One main concern is it's PPC program incompatibility.  Straight PPC code will not run under Lion, only universal binaries or Intel code will run.

Harry
 

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6d.

Re: Persistent 64-Bit Boot Terminal Command

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Sun May 13, 2012 6:23 pm (PDT)



Harold Flaxman wrote:
>
>
> On May 13, 2012, at 02:42 PM, Keith Whaley<keith_w@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
> Harold Flaxman wrote:
>>
>>
>> On May 12, 2012, at 01:05 PM, Denver Dan<denver.dan@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Because not everyone is running Lion.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 12 May 2012 14:53:54 -0400, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2012 2:31 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>>>> Howdy.
>>>>
>>>> This is a worthwhile article from Apple's KB on how to use
>>>> Terminal to set a "persistent" default for booting into 64-bit
>>>> kernel boot mode.
>>>>
>>>> This means that after issuing this command in Terminal you
>>>> won't have to press the 6 and 4 keys to have Mac boot into
>>>> 64-bit mode every time you boot.
>
>
>>> My understanding was that, by default, Lion boots into 64 bit
>>> kernel mode. I understand wanting to switch to 32 bit mode from
>>> time to time for some, but why issue a persistent command for 64
>>> bit mode when the os inherently boots 64?
>
>> I understand that, however, even Apple mentions that this is
>> applicable to Lion. I can understand switching from persistent 32
>> bit to persistent 64 in Lion, but I've never been into 32 bit
>> since 64 bit kernel became an option. I haven't come across any of
>> my software that has 32 bit extensions, and I have quite a bit of
>> commercial software as well as games.
>>
>> H
>
> I'm reading into what you said, that when I make the switch from my
> mid-'07 iMac with OS 10.6.8, to a brand new iMac with Lion already
> onboard will be relatively painless?
>
> You may not be willing to go that far, but... feel free. I'm going
> to make the move anyhow, just checking around to see what to
> expect...

> It may or may not. I would check your software for Lion
> compatibility. There are some apps out there to do this. One main
> concern is it's PPC program incompatibility. Straight PPC code will
> not run under Lion, only universal binaries or Intel code will run.
>
> Harry

Yup. I got that. I think I'm okay. I don't use PPC stuff at all. That I
know about anyhow...

Thanks for your attention.

keith

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7a.

Re: Easy way to start a new thread.

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Sun May 13, 2012 1:10 pm (PDT)




On May 12, 2012, at 5:39 PM, OBrien wrote:

> On Sat, 12 May 2012 12:05:49 -0700, Ardell Faul wrote:
>> What I do now is open a message from this group, then simply right click
>> on the group address, macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com. This gives me
>> a drop down list with one of the options being "Compose Message to". I
>> select that and a new message box opens up for me to type in my subject
>> and test easily.
>
> I just click on the "to" address in the header of any message preview (not opened). This opens a new message window with the "to" address filled in.

That does not work for me. I'm using Mail.app version 5.2. I have to use the little dropdown menu at the end of the "To" address.

What Mail version are you using?

Daly

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