5/31/2012

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1a.

Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Thu May 31, 2012 6:21 am (PDT)




On May 31, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Jeff wrote:

> On the flipside, there's Home Premium and Professional which have very little difference between the two...
> So what's truly the difference between Home Premium and Pro?

As I understand it, the sole difference is that "Home" versions of the Windows operating system cannot be clients on an Active Directory Windows network (they cannot be managed by the server). They can connect to a server using remote web access if that's all you need. If you're certain your machine won't be physically situated on a server-controlled Windows network, there's no reason to pay extra for a "professional" version of the client OS.

--
Jim Robertson

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Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Thu May 31, 2012 6:26 am (PDT)



On 5/31/2012 8:21 AM, Jeff wrote:
> Okay...so let me see if I understand.
> The 'Builder' edition is system specific so if I ever wanted to install onto another machine, I wouldn't be able to...but odds are, if I was installing on another machine, it would be a year or three down the line when I decided to upgrade my Mac anyway.
> On the flipside, there's Home Premium and Professional which have very little difference between the two...
> So what's truly the difference between Home Premium and Pro?? Networking ability or something?
> I've been leaning toward Pro since this is in support of my freelance design business...but if Home Premium would work...
> ugh.

This might hold some answers for you:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/compare

I know that the Home Basic edition does not support much networking.

You can read about all of the features and differences at the above site.

Harry

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1c.

Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "Jeff" jbturof@yahoo.com   jbturof

Thu May 31, 2012 7:16 am (PDT)



Thanks for everyone's suggestions.
It sounds like I'm best to go with the full version of Pro.

Jeff

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Bob Cook <cookrd1@...> wrote:
>
> On Thursday, May 31, 2012, Jeff wrote:
> Okay...so let me see if I understand.
> >
> > **
> >
> >
> The 'Builder' edition is system specific so if I ever wanted to install
> > onto another machine, I wouldn't be able to...but odds are, if I was
> > installing on another machine, it would be a year or three down the line
> > when I decided to upgrade my Mac anyway.
> > On the flipside, there's Home Premium and Professional which have very
> > little difference between the two...
> > So what's truly the difference between Home Premium and Pro?? Networking
> > ability or something?
> > I've been leaning toward Pro since this is in support of my freelance
> > design business...but if Home Premium would work.
> >
> The Builder edition is for folks building their PC from scratch. Not for
> you.
>
> Win7 Pro can join a domain, Home cannot. Pro may be needed for some
> proprietary software that only runs on XP using XP virtualization mode only
> in Pro. There may still be better disk encryption in Pro.
>
> Some older hardware may not have 64 bit drivers, if so, install 32 bit
> version.
>
> Bob
>
>
> --
> -Bob
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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1d.

Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Thu May 31, 2012 10:50 am (PDT)




On May 31, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Jeff wrote:

> It sounds like I'm best to go with the full version of Pro.

I'm curious why you decided thus.

Isn't the machine to be used at home? If so, you won't be joining a domain.
Do you need Windows XP compatibility mode? (I don't, so when I made my own decision that wasn't included in my matrix).

--
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1e.

Re: basics  was: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Thu May 31, 2012 11:29 am (PDT)



James,

is that what "connect to a domain" means?

I'm not a big Windows user, so this terminology has me a little confused.

Brent

On May 31, 2012, at 6:21 AM, James Robertson wrote:

On May 31, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Jeff wrote:

> On the flipside, there's Home Premium and Professional which have very little difference between the two...
> So what's truly the difference between Home Premium and Pro?

As I understand it, the sole difference is that "Home" versions of the Windows operating system cannot be clients on an Active Directory Windows network (they cannot be managed by the server). They can connect to a server using remote web access if that's all you need. If you're certain your machine won't be physically situated on a server-controlled Windows network, there's no reason to pay extra for a "professional" version of the client OS.

--
Jim Robertson

On May 31, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Christopher Collins wrote:

Pro allows you to connect to a domain, Home Premium does not.

That's basically it.

cjc
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Re: basics  was: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Thu May 31, 2012 1:12 pm (PDT)




On May 31, 2012, at 11:29 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> is that what "connect to a domain" means?

If you have a network controlled by a server the individual computers on the network can be managed by the server (doling out security and software updates, etc.). Home versions of Windows can do peer to peer networking, but not client-server networking to a "domain controller).

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2.1.

Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "gicleeman" gicleeman@mail.com   gicleeman

Thu May 31, 2012 7:02 am (PDT)



The three views are visible in the Finder, but for some reason, when adding attachments in Yahoo mail, the icon view doesn't show. I realized that after I submitted the reply and was too late to edit.

Peter

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Anna Larson <pix@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> welcome and thanks for chiming in. You are the right man because you have the right system configuration (10.4.11 and iPhoto 5).
>
> On 30.05.2012, at 20:02, gicleeman wrote:
>
> >
> > I also am using OS 10.4.11 and iPhoto 5.0.4 (…)
> >
> > When you click on "Attach Files" in Yahoo mail your Finder window opens to allow you to select your attachment(s). You can view your Finder's contents in any of 3 different ways; icon view, list view, or column view. The only way you'll see an enlarged thumbnail is if you have the Finder "view" configured to "Column View".
>
> I hope Kitty will read this and from now on use the Column View.
>
>
> > The first view is "list view", which shows a thumbnail that is way to small to see the content. The 2nd example is the column view, which gives you a fairly decent size thumbnail to preview before uploading to your email.
> >
> > http://www.morrobaygiclee.com/Picture4.jpg
>
>
> But where is the icon view button? I can't see any icon view button on your screenshot.
>
>
> Anna
>

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3a.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Thu May 31, 2012 7:05 am (PDT)




On May 31, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Roger Harris wrote:

> Jim, you might be using a different app than I. Mine is simply called "Metro". Logo is a white "M" in a green circle.

You're right. I have a different app (I think it's the official output of the operator of the Metro and RATP.

> I highly recommend using the bus at least a couple times - it's not always as fast, but you see so much more. Buy a "carnet" (10) tickets for a slight discount (at any metro station) and they are good for both the metro and the bus.

I'll remember that. I've never bothered to learn anything about the bus system during previous trips to France. Particularly with nice summer weather no reason to be careening through a tunnel after the initial experience of it...

Thanks again,
--
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3b.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Thu May 31, 2012 7:44 am (PDT)



Hi Jim,

International data roaming is very expensive even with a plan and I don't think you can isolate which apps send and receive data. That would be a great feature for Apple to implement.

An alternative I suggested in a post a few months ago was to either get a paid roaming WiFi agreement with either a US firm or a European firm and just use Wifi turning off the data connection. Alternatively is buying the European version of the MiFi devices we have here. Don't know the specifics of this either but in the UK I was able to get a USB stick which when inserted into a PC/Mac gave us a 2GB allowance for about 30 pounds. They may have more portable versions that work without being plugged in.

Jay

On May 30, 2012, at 4:09 PM, James Robertson wrote:

> I do have a question. I'm sure I'll figure this out, but once I turned OFF Push notifications the app couldn't find anything (stations, addresses, etc.) Makes me wonder how it will work for anything without a cellular data connection. Any idea whether I'll burn through my bank account if I purchase international data roaming from ATT and be very careful about what apps I allow to receive and transmit data by cellular connection when I'm in Paris?

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4a.

Re: Easy Resolution:  iTunes Video Playlist?

Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Thu May 31, 2012 7:09 am (PDT)




On 31.05.2012, at 14:02, Harry Flaxman wrote:

>
> I've been using iTunes since it's first release and have had no problem
> with custom video playlists playing non-stop, however, I haven't tried
> in awhile and am assuming that a recent update 'broke' that ability.

I remember the 10.6 version had a bug and would crash if one entered full screen. This bug was fixed in the current v. 10.6.1. I'm not suggesting that it has anything to do directly with your current problem; I just want to mention that the previous version was buggy.

What version are you using?

Try starting iTunes in another user account and see if the problem persists.

Good luck …

Anna Larson
OS X 10.7.4
MacBook Pro 17''

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4b.

Re: Easy Resolution:  iTunes Video Playlist?

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Thu May 31, 2012 7:31 am (PDT)



On 5/31/2012 10:09 AM, Anna Larson wrote:
> On 31.05.2012, at 14:02, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> >
>> > I've been using iTunes since it's first release and have had no problem
>> > with custom video playlists playing non-stop, however, I haven't tried
>> > in awhile and am assuming that a recent update 'broke' that ability.
> I remember the 10.6 version had a bug and would crash if one entered full screen. This bug was fixed in the current v. 10.6.1. I'm not suggesting that it has anything to do directly with your current problem; I just want to mention that the previous version was buggy.
>
> What version are you using?
>
> Try starting iTunes in another user account and see if the problem persists.
>
> Good luck …

I've worked professionally with computers since around the initial Apple
II and have used just about every release of any Apple os that there is,
with the exception perhaps of anything to do with the original Apple I
circuit board. Comparatively, OS X is relatively easy to troubleshoot.
I had never thought to go into the smart playlist selectors to try to
create the playlist I needed. Kudos!

As far as the spare user account, that's a great way to find problems
with either the account or the software itself. I just wish that there
was an easy way to migrate to a new account from an old one. I've had
to do that a few times over the years and have really found no easy
way. It certainly beats trying to track down a corrupt control or
preference file somewhere that a standard utility didn't pick up.

Since adding a secondary display to this iMac, I wish there was an easy
way to force, or set some standard apps like iTunes to use that
display. Maybe I missed that as well! :) It seems that many video apps
that don't have the option to use the secondary display stubbornly
revert to the primary even when dragged over to the secondary. I either
use VLC or the Plex media center to make consistent use of my secondary
display. One downfall with Plex is that it seems not to be able to
automatically do every type of video file cataloged by iTunes. One must
create a separate section and point to the subdirectory that contain the
files.

Harry

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5a.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com   ldina

Thu May 31, 2012 8:35 am (PDT)



Otto,

Thanks again. I was able to recover the images off my compact flash card, even though I had reformatted it in the camera. I thought reformatting wrote over the space, but apparently my Canon 5Dmk2 does a quick format and just makes the space available for new files. I used PhotoRec to recover the images. Thank you, and everyone else who contributed to this thread.

Since this issue came up, I'm trying to learn how to recover deleted files from my internal hard drives after the Trash bin has been emptied, whether the files were originally on my MacHD, DataHD or another drive connected to my MacPro (all four internal bays are filled...three are not partitioned, and the 4th drive has 3 partitions). It's a good opportunity to learn more about my Mac, OSX, Terminal, etc. (I moved to a Mac about 2 years ago after being on a PC for 25 years.)

It appears that PhotoRec and Testdisk work on camera cards that are externally connected, unless I am missing something. I didn't see a way to navigate to my Mac's hard drives for recovery from the Trash bin.

Hey, I appreciate all the help. I was VERY happy to recover my images. Whew!!

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> Before you go any further, what happened to the images from the camera?
> Were they on a memory card? Have you erased the card? If so, simply follow
> my instructions as they are.
>
> Have you installed TestDisk/PhotoRec?
>
> Yes, .Trashes is normally hidden. That's what the "." does. It's a system
> directory owned by root.
>
> Otto
>
> On 31 May 2012 04:24, LouisD <lou@...> wrote:
>
> > I figured out that the Trash file on my Data HD is called ".Trashes" for
> > whatever reason. I was able to navigate to that folder in Terminal, but it
> > tells me that Permission is denied.
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu May 31, 2012 9:45 am (PDT)



Reformatting recreates the file system but doesn't overwrite the data
blocks on the volume.

A 5DII eh? Bet you get some fantastic (and huge) images! I wish I could
justify getting one. I see there's now a 5DIII.

I'll try PhotoRec with an external drive and report back, but of course
it's better not to need it. There's a "law of computing" that says that
unless you have at least 2 instances of a file in different places, you
don't really have anything as it could disappear in a flash due to a disk
(or user!) error. So, don't erase a camera card until you've got at least
one backup of the files you've copied to your computer, or how about buying
an extra card, alternating them, and only erasing each one just before
using it?

Otto

On 31 May 2012 16:35, LouisD <lou@loudina.com> wrote:

> Otto,
>
> Thanks again. I was able to recover the images off my compact flash card,
> even though I had reformatted it in the camera. I thought reformatting
> wrote over the space, but apparently my Canon 5Dmk2 does a quick format and
> just makes the space available for new files. I used PhotoRec to recover
> the images. Thank you, and everyone else who contributed to this thread.
>
> Since this issue came up, I'm trying to learn how to recover deleted files
> from my internal hard drives after the Trash bin has been emptied, whether
> the files were originally on my MacHD, DataHD or another drive connected to
> my MacPro (all four internal bays are filled...three are not partitioned,
> and the 4th drive has 3 partitions). It's a good opportunity to learn more
> about my Mac, OSX, Terminal, etc. (I moved to a Mac about 2 years ago after
> being on a PC for 25 years.)
>
> It appears that PhotoRec and Testdisk work on camera cards that are
> externally connected, unless I am missing something. I didn't see a way to
> navigate to my Mac's hard drives for recovery from the Trash bin.
>
> Hey, I appreciate all the help. I was VERY happy to recover my images.
> Whew!!
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com   ldina

Thu May 31, 2012 10:44 am (PDT)



Otto,

I usually have multiple copies of my files. I have internal backup drives for both my MacHD and my DataHD. I do an automatic incremental backup every night using SuperDuper. Then, I have an external docking station hooked up via FireWire and backup to this drive every week or so. The docking station allows me to swap out SATA drives quickly and easily, so I swap two drives back and forth for backups. So I have four copies of most of my files. I keep one of the external backups off site and one at the house.

The other night, I uploaded files from my compact flash to my Mac and processed them in LightRoom. I was so tired, that I accidentally erased the files without knowing it, and afterward ran a backup. Of course, my backup drive didn't have the images either because in my ozone stupor, I erased them before the backup. Luckily, I was able to recover the photos from my compact flash disk. I have about 6 compact flash cards that I rotate. So, other than being a complete idiot, (like Tuesday night), I'm generally well protected.

Yes, the 5Dmk2 is an awesome camera. I always convert my raw files to DNG format, and the typical file size is between 20–25 MB each. They're big, but the quality is excellent. I saw the 5Dmk3 was released. There are some nice enhancements, but not enough to entice me to part with $3000-$4000. When they figure out how to buy me an extra 1–2 f-stops of dynamic range, that's a different story.

I read about PhotoRec and TestDisk, and apparently, they will work on hard drives. Even though I am the only person who uses my Mac, it always signs me in as a user. In order to access the other drives, you have to be logged in as a "root user". I don't even know how to do that! If I can sign in as the root user, I should be able to select any drive and run recover routines.

Best,

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> Reformatting recreates the file system but doesn't overwrite the data
> blocks on the volume.
>
> A 5DII eh? Bet you get some fantastic (and huge) images! I wish I could
> justify getting one. I see there's now a 5DIII.
>
> I'll try PhotoRec with an external drive and report back, but of course
> it's better not to need it. There's a "law of computing" that says that
> unless you have at least 2 instances of a file in different places, you
> don't really have anything as it could disappear in a flash due to a disk
> (or user!) error. So, don't erase a camera card until you've got at least
> one backup of the files you've copied to your computer, or how about buying
> an extra card, alternating them, and only erasing each one just before
> using it?
>
> Otto

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Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu May 31, 2012 11:13 am (PDT)



Apologies for underestimating your backup strategy. That's far more
comprehensive than most people's. You, did, however, erase the card when
you didn't need to (it should have been at the "back of the queue" for
reuse). ;)

I've just tried PhotoRec with an external drive. It works just as it does
with a memory card, but the estimated time is understandably much, much
greater. I had no need to become root.

If you do need to be root for anything, see
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1528?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US>
or <http://bit.ly/JwGLU1>

Otto

On 31 May 2012 18:40, LouisD <lou@loudina.com> wrote:

> Otto,
>
> I usually have multiple copies of my files. I have internal backup drives
> for both my MacHD and my DataHD. I do an automatic incremental backup every
> night using SuperDuper. Then, I have an external docking station hooked up
> via FireWire and backup to this drive every week or so. The docking station
> allows me to swap out SATA drives quickly and easily, so I swap two drives
> back and forth for backups. So I have four copies of most of my files. I
> keep one of the external backups off site and one at the house.
>
> The other night, I uploaded files from my compact flash to my Mac and
> processed them in LightRoom. I was so tired, that I accidentally erased the
> files without knowing it, and afterward ran a backup. Of course, my backup
> drive didn't have the images either because in my ozone stupor, I erased
> them before the backup. Luckily, I was able to recover the photos from my
> compact flash disk. I have about 6 compact flash cards that I rotate. So,
> other than being a complete idiot, (like Tuesday night), I'm generally well
> protected.
>
> Yes, the 5Dmk2 is an awesome camera. I always convert my raw files to DNG
> format, and the typical file size is between 20–25 MB each. They're big,
> but the quality is excellent. I saw the 5Dmk3 was released. There are some
> nice enhancements, but not enough to entice me to part with $3000-$4000.
> When they figure out how to buy me an extra 1–2 f-stops of dynamic range,
> that's a different story.
>
> I read about PhotoRec and TestDisk, and apparently, they will work on hard
> drives. Even though I am the only person who uses my Mac, it always signs
> me in as a user. In order to access the other drives, you have to be logged
> in as a "root user". I don't even know how to do that! If I can sign in as
> the root user, I should be able to select any drive and run recover
> routines.
>

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5e.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu May 31, 2012 1:22 pm (PDT)



Howdy.

Lou, there are several drive maintenance / file recovery programs that
install a piece of tracking software that makes it easier and more
likely to be able to recover deleted/trashed files and files from
volumes that have experienced a damaged directory structure.

One utility is a commercial one called TechTool Pro by Micromat.

TechTool Pro installs a System Preferences panel called Tech Tool
Protection. This has several tabs that let you turn on the ability to
track Trash history, and to do other things. Turning on Trash History
makes it easier and faster and more likely that should you delete then
Trash files in the future you can use the Tech Tool Pro main program to
recover files that were lost both to emptying the Trash and to a
damaged directory structure on a drive.

TechTool Pro is a utility I owned back in Mac OS 8 and 9 days but IMO
it didn't make a graceful transition to Mac OS X initially. I think it
may have caught up finally and is now maybe worth having again. I
recently upgraded to the current version (finally) and have it
installed.

Check out the Micromat web site and read some more about TechTool Pro.
Some of it's features may be redundant depending on whether you already
may own other utilities. One thing it can do is create an "eDrive"
which can be used to boot the computer but this is somewhat like the
Recovery partition in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion.

Denver Dan

On Thu, 31 May 2012 15:35:52 +0000, LouisD wrote:
> Thanks again. I was able to recover the images off my compact flash
> card, even though I had reformatted it in the camera. I thought
> reformatting wrote over the space, but apparently my Canon 5Dmk2 does
> a quick format and just makes the space available for new files. I
> used PhotoRec to recover the images. Thank you, and everyone else who
> contributed to this thread.
>
> Since this issue came up, I'm trying to learn how to recover deleted
> files from my internal hard drives after the Trash bin has been
> emptied, whether the files were originally on my MacHD, DataHD or
> another drive connected to my MacPro (all four internal bays are
> filled...three are not partitioned, and the 4th drive has 3
> partitions). It's a good opportunity to learn more about my Mac, OSX,
> Terminal, etc. (I moved to a Mac about 2 years ago after being on a
> PC for 25 years.)
>
> It appears that PhotoRec and Testdisk work on camera cards that are
> externally connected, unless I am missing something. I didn't see a
> way to navigate to my Mac's hard drives for recovery from the Trash
> bin.
>
> Hey, I appreciate all the help. I was VERY happy to recover my
> images. Whew!!
>
> Lou
>

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6a.

Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Thu May 31, 2012 9:19 am (PDT)



Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with their internals.

<https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/apples-crystal-prison-and-future-open-platforms>

BB

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Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Thu May 31, 2012 10:09 am (PDT)



> Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with their internals.
>
> BB

Yeah.
>
Woz has been pretty irrelevant for 30-35 years now....

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Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms

Posted by: "keith_w @dslextreme.com" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu May 31, 2012 10:18 am (PDT)



Steve W's been doing this for most of his association with Apple.
Lovely guy, but not of the same mind set as the guys in charge.
I'm with Apple. Either keep a tight rein on outside meddlers or lose
control and product integrity...

keith whaley

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Bill B. <bill501@mindspring.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open its
> platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with their
> internals.
>
> <
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/apples-crystal-prison-and-future-open-platforms
> >
>
> BB
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Re: Apple's Crystal Prison and the Future of Open Platforms

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Thu May 31, 2012 11:10 am (PDT)



My 2 cents. Leave it as it is. I like the walled garden.

If you want to jailbreak your phone, be my guest. Tinker and tweak all you want, just don't going to Apple when you or someone else breaks it, or steals your info. (Take responsibility for your own actions.)

Apple has not been aggressively pursuing those that are jailbreaking their iPhones so this whole thing is a bunch of hot air. And if you really want to tinker with your phone, get an Android. For some reason there is not much coverage on how many of the apps for that platform include malware. Shine the light equally on both and then make your choice.

And how many large companies have signed up for the Android as a business tool?

Just my 2 cents.

Brent

On May 31, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Bill B. wrote:

Two weeks ago, Steve Wozniak made a public call for Apple to open its platforms for those who wish to tinker, tweak and innovate with their internals.

<https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/apples-crystal-prison-and-future-open-platforms>

BB

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A small Safari annoyance

Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com   jrswebhome

Thu May 31, 2012 1:13 pm (PDT)



When clicking the back arrow in the Safari window instead of backing to the last url, I get a list of history urls. If I had wanted a list of history, I would have chosen history in the window menu.

Is there a way to stop this unwanted history list from appearing under the BACK arrow button?

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8a.

too many messages in in-box

Posted by: "fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart@gmail.com   fussyoldfart

Thu May 31, 2012 2:05 pm (PDT)



I find that my iPad inbox contains over five thousands messages and I don't know why or how to clean it out. When I have read a message that I don't need to keep I tap the trashcan icon to delete it or, occasionally, the folder icon to put it away for future reference.

Why do these messages not just disappear? Why, too, do messages that have been filed away re-appear in my inbox?

I have used the edit>select>delete method but the best I can do this way is one message at a time, one page at a time. It will take me many hours to delete them all this way.

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Re: too many messages in in-box

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Thu May 31, 2012 2:28 pm (PDT)



On 5/31/2012 5:05 PM, fussyoldfart wrote:
> I find that my iPad inbox contains over five thousands messages and I don't know why or how to clean it out. When I have read a message that I don't need to keep I tap the trashcan icon to delete it or, occasionally, the folder icon to put it away for future reference.
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> Why do these messages not just disappear? Why, too, do messages that have been filed away re-appear in my inbox?
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> I have used the edit>select>delete method but the best I can do this way is one message at a time, one page at a time. It will take me many hours to delete them all this way.

Have you set the max number of messages to retrieve in Settings? I find
that this seems to limit what I have onboard the iOS device.

Harry

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9a.

How to delete audiobooks on iPhone

Posted by: "joan05061" jsax@me.com   joan05061

Thu May 31, 2012 2:07 pm (PDT)



Often, when I borrow audiobooks from the library, I put them on my iPhone and play it that way, after which I delete it. Or at least that is what I have done. I can't seem to delete an audiobook on my iPhone, however. I go to iTunes, connect my iPhone, locate the audiobook and attempt to delete it and it won't delete. Any suggestions?

Joan in Vermont where once again it is glorious (if I am gloating now, I am to be pitied in December or January).

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Re: How to delete audiobooks on iPhone

Posted by: "joan05061" jsax@me.com   joan05061

Thu May 31, 2012 2:14 pm (PDT)



I don't know if it't the weather or what, but almost as soon as I sent the message below, I figured out how to do it. Don't know what I was doing wrong the last few times I tried, but problem solved.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "joan05061" <jsax@...> wrote:
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> Often, when I borrow audiobooks from the library, I put them on my iPhone and play it that way, after which I delete it. Or at least that is what I have done. I can't seem to delete an audiobook on my iPhone, however. I go to iTunes, connect my iPhone, locate the audiobook and attempt to delete it and it won't delete. Any suggestions?
>
> Joan in Vermont where once again it is glorious (if I am gloating now, I am to be pitied in December or January).
>

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