Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1.1.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: Charles Lenington
- 2a.
- Re: iMessage question From: Devitt
- 2b.
- Re: iMessage question From: N.A. Nada
- 2c.
- Re: iMessage question From: lwr32
- 3.
- Is anyone familiar with the LG LBT700 Bluetooth headset? From: Bob Newman
- 4a.
- Re: IPhone camera flashes each time the phone rings From: lwr32
- 5a.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: lwr32
- 5b.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: itasara
- 5c.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: Rich
- 5d.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: Roger Prokic
- 5e.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: lwr32
- 5f.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: lwr32
- 5g.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: lwr32
- 5h.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: Roger Prokic
- 5i.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: Roger Prokic
- 5j.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: lwr32
- 5k.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: lwr32
- 5l.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: N.A. Nada
- 5m.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: N.A. Nada
- 5n.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: N.A. Nada
- 5o.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: whiterabbit32
- 5p.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: whiterabbit32
- 5q.
- Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers From: whiterabbit32
- 6.
- Default action after deleting an email From: Jim (Chicago)
- 7.
- Dictation Autocorrect options From: Jim (Chicago)
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- 1.1.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "Charles Lenington" macsonly@brightok.net fooltouse2
Sat May 19, 2012 4:13 am (PDT)
On 5/3/12 6:33 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> As was suggested, a password manager works well. I use 1 Password. Got it for free a few years ago on a promo thing. I have it generate passwords for me.
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> Don't forget, on Macs you have your keychain to look passwords up through. I don't know if Windows has something similar.
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> 🐰 Alice
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> On May 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria<wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
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>> I filled in my security question-answers and now I've forgotten what they were! I'll have to rely upon my most unreliable memory!
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I am using enough dice to match all keyboard characters. Every now and
then I create a new batch and write them down. When I use them I may
drop a few characters to make pw shorter.
- 2a.
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Re: iMessage question
Posted by: "Devitt" devittad@comcast.net devittad
Sat May 19, 2012 5:12 am (PDT)
Thanks to all who replied. I had sent successful iMessages to both recipients many times before I tried to group message them. The problem turned out to be within my iPhone.
I deleted the problem message, quit the app. No luck. Then I shut off the phone and turned it back on. Same problem. I rebooted. The problem reappeared then corrected itself a few minutes later.
I'm not sure what fixed it but I'm glad it's gone.
Cathy
Sent from my iPad
> Your friends may not have set up iMessage or they may be out of the data coverage area when you tried sending.
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> Jay
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> On May 18, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Devitt wrote:
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> > I sent a group iMessage to two different people who both have iPhones. It went as a text message rather than an iMessage. Is that normal? When I sent a later iMessage to one of the recipients of the group iMessage, it also went as an SMS text.
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> > I checked settings and all is normal. I tried closing the messaging app from the bottom tray. When I try to iMessage either of these people I still get the green text rather than the blue iMessage. Any ideas what is going on? Or how I can fix it?
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> > Cathy
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- 2b.
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Re: iMessage question
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sat May 19, 2012 9:05 am (PDT)
I would __guess__ that the problem is the lowest common denominator. Meaning iMessage.app only sends one text, and whoever has the worst connection decides how the message is sent to all in the group.
So if one of the group either does not have iMessage or is not able to at that moment receive an iMessage text, the app makes the decision to send it as a SMS and not as an iMessage text. Think about it, the other option could have been, since all the recipients can't receive an iM text, don't send it to anyone.
It is only a stupid application, possibly the developers did not think of the need for a feature to send it out to different members of a group in both formats, or did not rank it high enough to bother. The message going out right now, might have ranked higher on the list of priorities.
Brent
On May 19, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Devitt wrote:
Thanks to all who replied. I had sent successful iMessages to both recipients many times before I tried to group message them. The problem turned out to be within my iPhone.
I deleted the problem message, quit the app. No luck. Then I shut off the phone and turned it back on. Same problem. I rebooted. The problem reappeared then corrected itself a few minutes later.
I'm not sure what fixed it but I'm glad it's gone.
Cathy
Sent from my iPad
> Your friends may not have set up iMessage or they may be out of the data coverage area when you tried sending.
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> Jay
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> On May 18, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Devitt wrote:
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> > I sent a group iMessage to two different people who both have iPhones. It went as a text message rather than an iMessage. Is that normal? When I sent a later iMessage to one of the recipients of the group iMessage, it also went as an SMS text.
> >
> > I checked settings and all is normal. I tried closing the messaging app from the bottom tray. When I try to iMessage either of these people I still get the green text rather than the blue iMessage. Any ideas what is going on? Or how I can fix it?
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> > Cathy
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- 2c.
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Re: iMessage question
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 1:30 pm (PDT)
Brent, you are completely right. Check this article about half way down. It says the same thing you said http://gigaom.com/apple/ imessage- 101-group- messaging/
🐰 Alice
On May 19, 2012, at 9:01 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> I would __guess__ that the problem is the lowest common denominator. Meaning iMessage.app only sends one text, and whoever has the worst connection decides how the message is sent to all in the group.
>
> So if one of the group either does not have iMessage or is not able to at that moment receive an iMessage text, the app makes the decision to send it as a SMS and not as an iMessage text. Think about it, the other option could have been, since all the recipients can't receive an iM text, don't send it to anyone.
>
> It is only a stupid application, possibly the developers did not think of the need for a feature to send it out to different members of a group in both formats, or did not rank it high enough to bother. The message going out right now, might have ranked higher on the list of priorities.
>
> Brent
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> On May 19, 2012, at 5:04 AM, Devitt wrote:
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> Thanks to all who replied. I had sent successful iMessages to both recipients many times before I tried to group message them. The problem turned out to be within my iPhone.
>
> I deleted the problem message, quit the app. No luck. Then I shut off the phone and turned it back on. Same problem. I rebooted. The problem reappeared then corrected itself a few minutes later.
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> I'm not sure what fixed it but I'm glad it's gone.
>
> Cathy
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> Your friends may not have set up iMessage or they may be out of the data coverage area when you tried sending.
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>> Jay
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>> On May 18, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Devitt wrote:
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>>> I sent a group iMessage to two different people who both have iPhones. It went as a text message rather than an iMessage. Is that normal? When I sent a later iMessage to one of the recipients of the group iMessage, it also went as an SMS text.
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>>> I checked settings and all is normal. I tried closing the messaging app from the bottom tray. When I try to iMessage either of these people I still get the green text rather than the blue iMessage. Any ideas what is going on? Or how I can fix it?
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>>> Cathy
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Is anyone familiar with the LG LBT700 Bluetooth headset?
Posted by: "Bob Newman" bobnewman@cox.net agunat
Sat May 19, 2012 11:28 am (PDT)
The LG LBT700 Bluetooth headset is the stereo headset that hangs around your neck. When I hit the button to make a phone call (usually accidentally) it activates the voice control (Siri is turned off) and will try to place a call to an arbitrary person in my phone book. How can I stop this from happening.
Bob
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Re: IPhone camera flashes each time the phone rings
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 1:40 pm (PDT)
It's a pretty annoying feature for me. I tried using it since I don't keep the sound on all the time. After the first couple of phone calls I turned it off. I am now back to listening for the vibration noise when it's sitting on a hard surface.
🐰 Alice
On May 18, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Paul <paul.deyo@gmail.com > wrote:
> Mine started doing that also for, no apparent reason.
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> Sent from my iPad
> Paul - N1PD
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> On May 18, 2012, at 2:50 PM, "Glorya" <gduer@att.net> wrote:
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> > My Iphone 4 started having the flash (camera) each time the phone rings with the ring tone.
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> > Anyone know of this happening before?
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- 5a.
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 1:44 pm (PDT)
Ok, I'd like to know how well Sprint works in California. I expect it not to work very well in mountainous areas as AT&T and VZ have sporadic service in mountainous areas here. I travel all over California.
🐰 Alice
On May 17, 2012, at 10:13 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> What do they say about real estate? Well, it is the same with cell phone service, "It's all about location, location, location!" What works well in __your__ area, and where you travel frequently. Asking on this list will not tell you what works well in your location, unless you tell us where you are, and you get responses specific to your area.
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> That is not the same as asking about what plans people have found works in certain situations.
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> Brent
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> On May 17, 2012, at 7:11 PM, lwr32 wrote:
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> I haven't heard anything bad about Sprint in my area. It's not one of those companies really talked about. It's always AT&T and VZ.
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> 🐰 Alice
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> On May 17, 2012, at 2:46 PM, "Rich" <thekellergroup@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > It depends on your area. I have had Sprint with an EVO and iPhone and
> > had no problems. Their coverage is very spotty in some areas.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. [mailto:apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of lwr32com
> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:40 PM
> > To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
> >
> > I don't know why Sprint isn't advertising they have the iPhone with a true unlimited service. I'm still looking into it and thinking about switching to Sprint with the next iPhone. Is Sprint not that good a service for the iPhone? No one seems to talk about it.
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
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> > On May 17, 2012, at 5:51 AM, "Richard Bauer" <rk911@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> > > saw this on the net last night.
> > >
> > > <http://news.cnet.com/ 8301-1035_ 3-57435601- 94/verizon- to-kill-unlimite d-data
> > > -plans-for-existing-subscribers/ >
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> > > or this link if the above becomes truncated: <http://tinyurl.com/bv248hd >
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "itasara" itasara@rochester.rr.com itasara
Sat May 19, 2012 3:07 pm (PDT)
I too have thought about Sprint, but you are right, I hear no one talking about it. One friend did tell me that she thought their overall service plans were more expensive than Verizon or AT&T.
I'm kind of stuck however... I have four family members on my plans and their contract dates all end at different times. So when the new iphone 5 comes out, in order for me to trade mine in for no cost (assuming Radio Shack and maybe Best Buy still will do that) then I am stuck to sign up with AT&T another two years.
If Verizon stops grandfathering unlimited data, then I'm in trouble at AT&T.
I'm sorry, but I still get a bit angry over this... they sold us a bill of goods with the new iphone, then they retracted it. The unlimited plans
still cost a lot of money/month and the limited plans are making prisoners of those who have them to checking on it all the time or if you forget and go over it is another $25 or so down the drain. New apps seem to come down already set up to push or send notifications... that takes up data also. I have friends with iphones (since they have become so popular) that when I explain how to use their iphone to save data, they have no idea what I am talking about and it goes right over their head and they don't seem all that interested in the details (until I suppose they start getting notices about getting close to going over their data plan).
end of rant. LOL
Ellen
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "Rich" thekellergroup@gmail.com rkkeller8
Sat May 19, 2012 3:10 pm (PDT)
The thing about Sprint is they are great in some areas but spotty in
others. Check their coverage maps for YOUR area and see if any
friends or coworkers have them.
I have Sprint and been nothing but happy but my friend in a different
part of the country complains about them all the time.
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. [mailto:apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. ] Oncom
Behalf Of itasara
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 5:50 PM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [apple-iphone] Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for
existing subscribers
I too have thought about Sprint, but you are right, I hear no one talking
about it. One friend did tell me that she thought their overall service
plans were more expensive than Verizon or AT&T.
I'm kind of stuck however... I have four family members on my plans and
their contract dates all end at different times. So when the new iphone 5
comes out, in order for me to trade mine in for no cost (assuming Radio
Shack and maybe Best Buy still will do that) then I am stuck to sign up with
AT&T another two years.
If Verizon stops grandfathering unlimited data, then I'm in trouble at AT&T.
I'm sorry, but I still get a bit angry over this... they sold us a bill of
goods with the new iphone, then they retracted it. The unlimited plans still
cost a lot of money/month and the limited plans are making prisoners of
those who have them to checking on it all the time or if you forget and go
over it is another $25 or so down the drain. New apps seem to come down
already set up to push or send notifications... that takes up data also. I
have friends with iphones (since they have become so popular) that when I
explain how to use their iphone to save data, they have no idea what I am
talking about and it goes right over their head and they don't seem all that
interested in the details (until I suppose they start getting notices about
getting close to going over their data plan).
end of rant. LOL
Ellen
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "Roger Prokic" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Sat May 19, 2012 3:16 pm (PDT)
Sprint has true unlimited everything for $99/month and they don't bitch and whine if you approach 2GB of data. :-)
On May 19, 2012, at 5:49 PM, itasara <itasara@rochester.rr.com > wrote:
> I too have thought about Sprint, but you are right, I hear no one talking about it. One friend did tell me that she thought their overall service plans were more expensive than Verizon or AT&T.
>
> I'm kind of stuck however... I have four family members on my plans and their contract dates all end at different times. So when the new iphone 5 comes out, in order for me to trade mine in for no cost (assuming Radio Shack and maybe Best Buy still will do that) then I am stuck to sign up with AT&T another two years.
>
> If Verizon stops grandfathering unlimited data, then I'm in trouble at AT&T.
>
> I'm sorry, but I still get a bit angry over this... they sold us a bill of goods with the new iphone, then they retracted it. The unlimited plans
> still cost a lot of money/month and the limited plans are making prisoners of those who have them to checking on it all the time or if you forget and go over it is another $25 or so down the drain. New apps seem to come down already set up to push or send notifications... that takes up data also. I have friends with iphones (since they have become so popular) that when I explain how to use their iphone to save data, they have no idea what I am talking about and it goes right over their head and they don't seem all that interested in the details (until I suppose they start getting notices about getting close to going over their data plan).
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> end of rant. LOL
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> Ellen
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 3:19 pm (PDT)
Being stuck in a plan with others is why my hubby and I went with separate contracts. He's for sure going to Sprint. I'm still thinking about it.
🐰 Alice
On May 19, 2012, at 2:49 PM, itasara <itasara@rochester.rr.com > wrote:
> I too have thought about Sprint, but you are right, I hear no one talking about it. One friend did tell me that she thought their overall service plans were more expensive than Verizon or AT&T.
>
> I'm kind of stuck however... I have four family members on my plans and their contract dates all end at different times. So when the new iphone 5 comes out, in order for me to trade mine in for no cost (assuming Radio Shack and maybe Best Buy still will do that) then I am stuck to sign up with AT&T another two years.
>
> If Verizon stops grandfathering unlimited data, then I'm in trouble at AT&T.
>
> I'm sorry, but I still get a bit angry over this... they sold us a bill of goods with the new iphone, then they retracted it. The unlimited plans
> still cost a lot of money/month and the limited plans are making prisoners of those who have them to checking on it all the time or if you forget and go over it is another $25 or so down the drain. New apps seem to come down already set up to push or send notifications... that takes up data also. I have friends with iphones (since they have become so popular) that when I explain how to use their iphone to save data, they have no idea what I am talking about and it goes right over their head and they don't seem all that interested in the details (until I suppose they start getting notices about getting close to going over their data plan).
>
> end of rant. LOL
>
> Ellen
>
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 3:31 pm (PDT)
$99 is more than I pay right now with AT&T but I don't talk that much on the phone. Checking Sprint plans, I can get the $79.99 plan that has 450 anytime minutes. That's enough talk time for me. I don't see where Sprint talks of roll over minutes.
🐰 Alice
On May 19, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Roger Prokic <rprokic@me.com> wrote:
> Sprint has true unlimited everything for $99/month and they don't bitch and whine if you approach 2GB of data. :-)
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 5:49 PM, itasara <itasara@rochester.rr.com > wrote:
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> > I too have thought about Sprint, but you are right, I hear no one talking about it. One friend did tell me that she thought their overall service plans were more expensive than Verizon or AT&T.
> >
> > I'm kind of stuck however... I have four family members on my plans and their contract dates all end at different times. So when the new iphone 5 comes out, in order for me to trade mine in for no cost (assuming Radio Shack and maybe Best Buy still will do that) then I am stuck to sign up with AT&T another two years.
> >
> > If Verizon stops grandfathering unlimited data, then I'm in trouble at AT&T.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I still get a bit angry over this... they sold us a bill of goods with the new iphone, then they retracted it. The unlimited plans
> > still cost a lot of money/month and the limited plans are making prisoners of those who have them to checking on it all the time or if you forget and go over it is another $25 or so down the drain. New apps seem to come down already set up to push or send notifications... that takes up data also. I have friends with iphones (since they have become so popular) that when I explain how to use their iphone to save data, they have no idea what I am talking about and it goes right over their head and they don't seem all that interested in the details (until I suppose they start getting notices about getting close to going over their data plan).
> >
> > end of rant. LOL
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> > Ellen
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 3:43 pm (PDT)
True unlimited with Sprint means no limits, correct? I can use 5GB of data in a month and they wouldn't complain? I don't want to have to monitor my iPhone data usage anymore.
🐰 Alice
On May 19, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Roger Prokic <rprokic@me.com> wrote:
> Sprint has true unlimited everything for $99/month and they don't bitch and whine if you approach 2GB of data. :-)
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 5:49 PM, itasara <itasara@rochester.rr.com > wrote:
>
> > I too have thought about Sprint, but you are right, I hear no one talking about it. One friend did tell me that she thought their overall service plans were more expensive than Verizon or AT&T.
> >
> > I'm kind of stuck however... I have four family members on my plans and their contract dates all end at different times. So when the new iphone 5 comes out, in order for me to trade mine in for no cost (assuming Radio Shack and maybe Best Buy still will do that) then I am stuck to sign up with AT&T another two years.
> >
> > If Verizon stops grandfathering unlimited data, then I'm in trouble at AT&T.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I still get a bit angry over this... they sold us a bill of goods with the new iphone, then they retracted it. The unlimited plans
> > still cost a lot of money/month and the limited plans are making prisoners of those who have them to checking on it all the time or if you forget and go over it is another $25 or so down the drain. New apps seem to come down already set up to push or send notifications... that takes up data also. I have friends with iphones (since they have become so popular) that when I explain how to use their iphone to save data, they have no idea what I am talking about and it goes right over their head and they don't seem all that interested in the details (until I suppose they start getting notices about getting close to going over their data plan).
> >
> > end of rant. LOL
> >
> > Ellen
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "Roger Prokic" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Sat May 19, 2012 4:12 pm (PDT)
How much data do you get with that plan though?
On May 19, 2012, at 6:31 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> $99 is more than I pay right now with AT&T but I don't talk that much on the phone. Checking Sprint plans, I can get the $79.99 plan that has 450 anytime minutes. That's enough talk time for me. I don't see where Sprint talks of roll over minutes.
>
> Alice
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "Roger Prokic" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Sat May 19, 2012 4:12 pm (PDT)
Yes. It's truly unlimited just like their commercials say. AT&T and Verizon are helping Sprint big time by doing away with unlimited data plans!!!
I may go to Sprint one day as well.
Roger
On May 19, 2012, at 6:43 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> True unlimited with Sprint means no limits, correct? I can use 5GB of data in a month and they wouldn't complain? I don't want to have to monitor my iPhone data usage anymore.
>
> Alice
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 4:18 pm (PDT)
The point being, I do not want to pay $99 for 1 cellphone. If Sprint doesn't raise their rates, hubby and I are thinking of the the $149.99 family plan. It's still less than AT&T.
🐰 Alice
On May 19, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Roger Prokic <rprokic@me.com> wrote:
> How much data do you get with that plan though?
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 6:31 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > $99 is more than I pay right now with AT&T but I don't talk that much on the phone. Checking Sprint plans, I can get the $79.99 plan that has 450 anytime minutes. That's enough talk time for me. I don't see where Sprint talks of roll over minutes.
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> > Alice
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 4:20 pm (PDT)
Sprint is helping themselves to their customers minutes too. Instead of roll-over minutes (saw nothing about roll-over minutes) they're selling their customers unused, paid for minutes to Ting.
🐰 Alice
On May 19, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Roger Prokic <rprokic@me.com> wrote:
> Yes. It's truly unlimited just like their commercials say. AT&T and Verizon are helping Sprint big time by doing away with unlimited data plans!!!
>
> I may go to Sprint one day as well.
>
> Roger
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 6:43 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > True unlimited with Sprint means no limits, correct? I can use 5GB of data in a month and they wouldn't complain? I don't want to have to monitor my iPhone data usage anymore.
> >
> > Alice
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sat May 19, 2012 4:39 pm (PDT)
Alice,
you need to narrow it down a little bit more. California is the 3rd largest state after Alaska and Texas. Can you get it down to a county or two?
Think of cellular as pretty much line of sight. It is not satellite and even that needs a clear line of sight to some extent.
It will go through buildings to some extent, but not through hills or mountains. I have found that cellular has problems going through metal roofs, foil-backed insulation, and tall warehouse racking.
I have also found cellular has problems with mountains and valleys. I drove up the California and Oregon Coast on the trip and there were all kinds of shadows in reception.
I used to travel for work to literally wide spots in the road and some farmer's field. And some were flat enough that to see over the "mountain", all I did was step up on the bumper of the pickup. What I have found with AT&T, VZ and US Cellular is that if the population is below 25 per square mile, don't expect cell service. They just can not justify the expense to put up towers. With the smaller cellular providers, don't expect service outside of metro areas and highway paths. It all depends on their partnership agreements.
BTW, AT&T pay-as-you-go accounts do not get access to those partnership agreements, so don't expect service in southern Wyoming in the cities or along the highway, much of Colorado and many other places. They won't tell you that until after you have signed up and complained several times.
Brent
On May 19, 2012, at 1:44 PM, lwr32 wrote:
Ok, I'd like to know how well Sprint works in California. I expect it not to work very well in mountainous areas as AT&T and VZ have sporadic service in mountainous areas here. I travel all over California.
🐰 Alice
On May 17, 2012, at 10:13 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> What do they say about real estate? Well, it is the same with cell phone service, "It's all about location, location, location!" What works well in __your__ area, and where you travel frequently. Asking on this list will not tell you what works well in your location, unless you tell us where you are, and you get responses specific to your area.
>
> That is not the same as asking about what plans people have found works in certain situations.
>
> Brent
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 7:11 PM, lwr32 wrote:
>
> I haven't heard anything bad about Sprint in my area. It's not one of those companies really talked about. It's always AT&T and VZ.
>
> 🐰 Alice
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 2:46 PM, "Rich" <thekellergroup@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > It depends on your area. I have had Sprint with an EVO and iPhone and
> > had no problems. Their coverage is very spotty in some areas.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. [mailto:apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of lwr32com
> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:40 PM
> > To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
> >
> > I don't know why Sprint isn't advertising they have the iPhone with a true unlimited service. I'm still looking into it and thinking about switching to Sprint with the next iPhone. Is Sprint not that good a service for the iPhone? No one seems to talk about it.
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
> >
> > On May 17, 2012, at 5:51 AM, "Richard Bauer" <rk911@yahoo.com > wrote:
> >
> > > saw this on the net last night.
> > >
> > > <http://news.cnet.com/ 8301-1035_ 3-57435601- 94/verizon- to-kill-unlimite d-data
> > > -plans-for-existing-subscribers/ >
> > >
> > > or this link if the above becomes truncated: <http://tinyurl.com/bv248hd >
> > >
> > > rich
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sat May 19, 2012 4:53 pm (PDT)
Alice,
I kinda remember that you live in a motor home and are retired. Or am I mistaken. If you two travel all over, maybe having two different services might be better. Hopefully one will always work.
Brent
On May 19, 2012, at 3:19 PM, lwr32 wrote:
Being stuck in a plan with others is why my hubby and I went with separate contracts. He's for sure going to Sprint. I'm still thinking about it.
🐰 Alice
On May 19, 2012, at 2:49 PM, itasara <itasara@rochester.rr.com > wrote:
> I too have thought about Sprint, but you are right, I hear no one talking about it. One friend did tell me that she thought their overall service plans were more expensive than Verizon or AT&T.
>
> I'm kind of stuck however... I have four family members on my plans and their contract dates all end at different times. So when the new iphone 5 comes out, in order for me to trade mine in for no cost (assuming Radio Shack and maybe Best Buy still will do that) then I am stuck to sign up with AT&T another two years.
>
> If Verizon stops grandfathering unlimited data, then I'm in trouble at AT&T.
>
> I'm sorry, but I still get a bit angry over this... they sold us a bill of goods with the new iphone, then they retracted it. The unlimited plans
> still cost a lot of money/month and the limited plans are making prisoners of those who have them to checking on it all the time or if you forget and go over it is another $25 or so down the drain. New apps seem to come down already set up to push or send notifications... that takes up data also. I have friends with iphones (since they have become so popular) that when I explain how to use their iphone to save data, they have no idea what I am talking about and it goes right over their head and they don't seem all that interested in the details (until I suppose they start getting notices about getting close to going over their data plan).
>
> end of rant. LOL
>
> Ellen
>
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Sat May 19, 2012 4:57 pm (PDT)
How do they do that? Do they grab the little clocks from the trash like that old TV commercial?
They just know that on average their customers only use so much and they sell access to Ting. All of they do it. They have to, the FCC requires that they make it available to the smaller carriers.
On May 19, 2012, at 4:20 PM, lwr32 wrote:
Sprint is helping themselves to their customers minutes too. Instead of roll-over minutes (saw nothing about roll-over minutes) they're selling their customers unused, paid for minutes to Ting.
🐰 Alice
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 7:59 pm (PDT)
Naw, I live in a single story house in the Sacramento area. We have friends all over CA, so we travel all over the state in our mini cooper.
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 19, 2012, at 4:50 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> Alice,
>
> I kinda remember that you live in a motor home and are retired. Or am I mistaken. If you two travel all over, maybe having two different services might be better. Hopefully one will always work.
>
> Brent
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 3:19 PM, lwr32 wrote:
>
> Being stuck in a plan with others is why my hubby and I went with separate contracts. He's for sure going to Sprint. I'm still thinking about it.
>
> 🐰 Alice
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 2:49 PM, itasara <itasara@rochester.rr.com > wrote:
>
> > I too have thought about Sprint, but you are right, I hear no one talking about it. One friend did tell me that she thought their overall service plans were more expensive than Verizon or AT&T.
> >
> > I'm kind of stuck however... I have four family members on my plans and their contract dates all end at different times. So when the new iphone 5 comes out, in order for me to trade mine in for no cost (assuming Radio Shack and maybe Best Buy still will do that) then I am stuck to sign up with AT&T another two years.
> >
> > If Verizon stops grandfathering unlimited data, then I'm in trouble at AT&T.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I still get a bit angry over this... they sold us a bill of goods with the new iphone, then they retracted it. The unlimited plans
> > still cost a lot of money/month and the limited plans are making prisoners of those who have them to checking on it all the time or if you forget and go over it is another $25 or so down the drain. New apps seem to come down already set up to push or send notifications... that takes up data also. I have friends with iphones (since they have become so popular) that when I explain how to use their iphone to save data, they have no idea what I am talking about and it goes right over their head and they don't seem all that interested in the details (until I suppose they start getting notices about getting close to going over their data plan).
> >
> > end of rant. LOL
> >
> > Ellen
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 8:00 pm (PDT)
Makes me mad they're reselling what I already paid for. That's Capitolism though.
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 19, 2012, at 4:54 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> How do they do that? Do they grab the little clocks from the trash like that old TV commercial?
>
> They just know that on average their customers only use so much and they sell access to Ting. All of they do it. They have to, the FCC requires that they make it available to the smaller carriers.
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 4:20 PM, lwr32 wrote:
>
> Sprint is helping themselves to their customers minutes too. Instead of roll-over minutes (saw nothing about roll-over minutes) they're selling their customers unused, paid for minutes to Ting.
>
> 🐰 Alice
>
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Re: Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Sat May 19, 2012 8:15 pm (PDT)
Yes, the California coast has terrible cell service. I turn my phone completely off when on traveling alng the coast. AT&T works well in the Sacramento area where I'm at. I travel all over the state. I've got friends all over the state.
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 19, 2012, at 4:37 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> Alice,
>
> you need to narrow it down a little bit more. California is the 3rd largest state after Alaska and Texas. Can you get it down to a county or two?
>
> Think of cellular as pretty much line of sight. It is not satellite and even that needs a clear line of sight to some extent.
>
> It will go through buildings to some extent, but not through hills or mountains. I have found that cellular has problems going through metal roofs, foil-backed insulation, and tall warehouse racking.
>
> I have also found cellular has problems with mountains and valleys. I drove up the California and Oregon Coast on the trip and there were all kinds of shadows in reception.
>
> I used to travel for work to literally wide spots in the road and some farmer's field. And some were flat enough that to see over the "mountain", all I did was step up on the bumper of the pickup. What I have found with AT&T, VZ and US Cellular is that if the population is below 25 per square mile, don't expect cell service. They just can not justify the expense to put up towers. With the smaller cellular providers, don't expect service outside of metro areas and highway paths. It all depends on their partnership agreements.
>
> BTW, AT&T pay-as-you-go accounts do not get access to those partnership agreements, so don't expect service in southern Wyoming in the cities or along the highway, much of Colorado and many other places. They won't tell you that until after you have signed up and complained several times.
>
> Brent
>
> On May 19, 2012, at 1:44 PM, lwr32 wrote:
>
> Ok, I'd like to know how well Sprint works in California. I expect it not to work very well in mountainous areas as AT&T and VZ have sporadic service in mountainous areas here. I travel all over California.
>
> 🐰 Alice
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 10:13 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> > What do they say about real estate? Well, it is the same with cell phone service, "It's all about location, location, location!" What works well in __your__ area, and where you travel frequently. Asking on this list will not tell you what works well in your location, unless you tell us where you are, and you get responses specific to your area.
> >
> > That is not the same as asking about what plans people have found works in certain situations.
> >
> > Brent
> >
> > On May 17, 2012, at 7:11 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> >
> > I haven't heard anything bad about Sprint in my area. It's not one of those companies really talked about. It's always AT&T and VZ.
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
> >
> > On May 17, 2012, at 2:46 PM, "Rich" <thekellergroup@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > > It depends on your area. I have had Sprint with an EVO and iPhone and
> > > had no problems. Their coverage is very spotty in some areas.
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. [mailto:apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of lwr32com
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:40 PM
> > > To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Verizon to kill unlimited data plans for existing subscribers
> > >
> > > I don't know why Sprint isn't advertising they have the iPhone with a true unlimited service. I'm still looking into it and thinking about switching to Sprint with the next iPhone. Is Sprint not that good a service for the iPhone? No one seems to talk about it.
> > >
> > > 🐰 Alice
> > >
> > > On May 17, 2012, at 5:51 AM, "Richard Bauer" <rk911@yahoo.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > > saw this on the net last night.
> > > >
> > > > <http://news.cnet.com/ 8301-1035_ 3-57435601- 94/verizon- to-kill-unlimite d-data
> > > > -plans-for-existing-subscribers/ >
> > > >
> > > > or this link if the above becomes truncated: <http://tinyurl.com/bv248hd >
> > > >
> > > > rich
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > --------------------- --------- ------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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Default action after deleting an email
Posted by: "Jim (Chicago)" book_of_hezekiah_10_26@yahoo.com book_of_hezekiah_10_26
Sat May 19, 2012 2:20 pm (PDT)
Regarding deleting an email from within the message, most email clients have a Setup option to either open the next message or return to the message list. Can I do this in an iPhone--return to the list upon deletion of a message?
The alternative is elaborate and annoying. I need to
Delete the unwanted message,
then from the next message which I do not necessarily want to read, and I don't want it falsely marked as having been read--
Mark,
Mark as Unread,
Back-Arrow to the list.
Jim
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Dictation Autocorrect options
Posted by: "Jim (Chicago)" book_of_hezekiah_10_26@yahoo.com book_of_hezekiah_10_26
Sat May 19, 2012 3:07 pm (PDT)
When I use dictation software, I will get the blue dashes under questionable phrases. Sometimes clicking on these words will pop up potential alternate spellings. Other times they pop up "Select all" or other options, but not suggested spellings. At other times the dashes are there, but clicking on the word yields no popup/response at all. Sometimes this happens when I have already edited one word and am going to the next one. That second word will be basically unclickable (no suggestions).
How do I keep all of those active until I've chosen the corrections?
Also, what is this feature called? I hesitate to lump it in as "Siri." Are there good tips on how to "train" it? Like, for some texts, the people may not have me as a contact so I like to say my name, and even though I am in my own Contact List, my name is always spelled wrong.
Jim
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