Messages In This Digest (12 Messages)
- 1.1.
- Re: thumbnails too small From: N.A. Nada
- 1.2.
- Re: thumbnails too small From: Anna Larson
- 1.3.
- Re: thumbnails too small From: Otto Nikolaus
- 1.4.
- Re: thumbnails too small From: Daly Jessup
- 2a.
- Re: Unix executable files From: Randy B. Singer
- 2b.
- Re: Unix executable files From: Daly Jessup
- 2c.
- Re: Unix executable files From: 1belami
- 2d.
- Re: Unix executable files From: Otto Nikolaus
- 3a.
- How do I recover deleted files? From: LouisD
- 3b.
- Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: Daly Jessup
- 3c.
- Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: Otto Nikolaus
- 3d.
- Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: OBrien
Messages
- 1.1.
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Re: thumbnails too small
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Tue May 29, 2012 11:11 pm (PDT)
Besides Forrest bringing up an excellent point, what is the size of the original photos? But assuming they are large enough...
Like I said, it can not be done inside Yahoo web mail. See my comments of each screen shot from Anna's upload.
1 of 8 - Yahoo web email, on Anna's Mac
2 of 8 - attaching file to new email in Yahoo web email
3 of 8 - I assume this is the navigation window for Yahoo web email, but at this point you are moving out of Yahoo web email into iPhoto
4 of 8 - I believe at this point you are more in iPhoto in icon view, than in Yahoo web email
5 of 8 - What????? Suddenly we have jumped from Anna's MacBookPro to Kitty's computer into I don't know what application, with a slider bar no less. Excuse me, (we're in a folder named Kitty on a Samsung HD, I assume to be Anna's user called "my humble self" in German) and in an application that I can not recognize as one that is part of Mac OS X. Note the icons in the menu bar. But we are no longer in Yahoo web email, and I don't think we are in iPhoto, either.
6 of 8 - Back to Anna's Mac (note the . de(utschland) in the window title) in icon view with larger icons(thumbnails, that is fine, she is trying to show Kitty how).
7 of 8 - changed to Cover Flow view
8 of 8 - in Cover Flow with a larger image
How did we jump from 4, to 5, to 6?
This all assumes Kitty has versions of Yahoo web email and iPhoto, that can do these things. Remember she is still running 10.4.11 on an eMac.
The way I suggested, is more like sneakerware, but will work with whatever versions of software Kitty is using, and with fewer steps. If you want the features, sometimes you have to upgrade. View and select the photos outside of Yahoo web email, and not the names. Start attaching the photos inside of Yahoo web email and navigate to them by name and not image. Done.
I can understand Kitty's hesitation to shell out $129 for 10.5 for an eMac. It is only one feature that she probably does not use every day, and how much longer will the eMac last. She would be better off saving up for a more current model.
And I am not saying that my way is the only way, just the simplest way. And it can not be done inside Yahoo web email.
Brent
On May 29, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Anna Larson wrote:
On 25.05.2012, at 00:05, Kitty wrote:
>
>
> Creating an email, I want to attach a photo. So I hit the words "ad attachment" on the Yahoo email window. The browser opens with places to choose up to 5 photos. I hit the first spot which opens to desk-top options where I have various named folders of photos to choose from. I open a folder but the photos in it are so small.....
If you still insist on using the Yahoo webmail service then enlarging the thumbnails before you send photos shouldn't be any problem at all, contrary to what people here on the list have been telling you. In fact you have several options to choose from to accomplish this task. I am using OS 10.7.4, but I think this works basically the same in Tiger (v. 10.4.11).
You use iPhoto to store your photos. Right?
OPTION 1
1) Open your Yahoo mail. It should look something like this (screenshot no. 1).
http://minus.com/mDZTyu3DS/
[This page contains 8 screenshots. Use the arrow keys on your keyboard to navigate, or click on the arrows on the left and right side of the page. Please click on the pictures to enlarge them. The browser is Safari]
As you can see two emails are flagged, which means this option is still offered by Yahoo, contrary to what you said in an earlier email.
2) Now click the "Compose Message" button. What you should see is shown on screenshot no. 2.
3) Press the "Attach Files" button and navigate to MEDIA (in the left lower corner of the Sidebar) and select "Photos". You will see the photos you have in iPhoto, large enough to pick and insert them into your Yahoo mail by clicking on the "Open" button. See screenshot no. 3 (with written instructions).
If this MEDIA-Option, as I call it, is not available in OS 10.4.11 then go to
OPTION 2
1) Open iPhoto; choose the photos you want to send
2) Create a folder on the Desktop and give it a meaningful name (I called my folder "Kitty").
3) Export the photos from iPhoto and place them into this folder.
4) Open your Yahoo mail.
5) Click the "Compose Message" button and then the "Attach files" button
6) Navigate to the folder into which you previously put your photos
7) What you now see might look like screenshot no. 4
The thumbnails are far too small, aren't they? That's because they are small in Finder (I made it deliberately that way for the sake of this demonstration). In order to *enlarge* the thumbnails you do this:
A) Open the folder in Finder (in our example the "Kitty" folder) and follow the instruction on screenshot no. 5.
B) Now go back to Yahoo mail, press the "Attach files" button and you will see that the thumbnails are now much BIGGER (see screenshot no. 6).
You can also use the Cover Flow option which brings us to
OPTION 3
a) Follow the instruction on screenshot no. 7
b) This will give you huge thumbnails! See screenshot no. 8
And now, after you have successfully sent photos of your beloved little animals, you can – or rather should – delete the folder you created on the Desktop. The originals are in iPhoto and we don't want to clutter our hard disks with duplicates, do we?
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- 1.2.
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Re: thumbnails too small
Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de yovard@ymail.com
Wed May 30, 2012 4:43 am (PDT)
On 30.05.2012, at 08:11, N.A. Nada wrote:
> See my comments of each screen shot from Anna's upload.
>
> 3 of 8 - I assume this is the navigation window for Yahoo web email, but at this point you are moving out of Yahoo web email into iPhoto
Well, yes and no. The navigation window is part of Mac OS and the OS enables you to peek into MEDIA in the lower left corner (= Music, Photos, Movies). I prefer at this stage not to make a sharp distinction between Yahoo web mail, iPhoto or other folders in the Sidebar (which I erased from the screen shot) because all these components work seamlessly together to create one holistic user experience. In other words, you ARE in Yahoo mail, then you click on the Attach Files button in Yahoo mail and the next thing you see is a navigation window displaying photos from iPhoto or Finder folders. Asking at this stage WHERE you actually are (i.e. in Yahoo mail or somewhere else) is sophism and empty rhetoric.
> 4 of 8 - I believe at this point you are more in iPhoto in icon view, than in Yahoo web email
No Brent, try to concentrate yourself when you read. OPTION 2 describes where we are. I quote:
"1) Open iPhoto; choose the photos you want to send
2) Create a folder on the Desktop and give it a meaningful name (I called my folder "Kitty").
3) Export the photos from iPhoto and place them into this folder.
4) Open your Yahoo mail.
5) Click the "Compose Message" button and then the "Attach files" button
6) Navigate to the folder [on the Desktop] into which you previously put your photos
7) What you now see might look like screenshot no. 4"
In other words, we are in a *navigation window* which shows us the contents of an ad hoc created folder in Finder with pictures which have been exported from iPhoto and we intend to send as attachments in Yahoo mail. I gave the folder the name "Kitty" because the OP's name is "Kitty".
> 5 of 8 - What????? Suddenly we have jumped from Anna's MacBookPro to Kitty's computer (...)
Brent, this is not the right place to make silly jokes. Step number 2 above states clearly:
"2) Create a folder on the Desktop and give it a meaningful name (I called my folder "Kitty"). "
That means, in screenshot number 5 we are in *Finder*, inside the Kitty-Folder that we created for this purpose.
>
> 6 of 8 - Back to Anna's Mac
Bullshit! We never left Anna's Mac. Just read the instructions again if you have lost the orientation.
>
> How did we jump from 4, to 5, to 6?
In screenshot 4 we are in a Mac OS navigation window, viewing the contents of the folder I gave the name "Kitty". The Kitty folder was created ad hoc for this purpose on the Desktop.
In screenshot 5 we are inside the Kitty folder with the purpose to enlarge the display using the slider. = My original text: "A) Open the folder in Finder (in our example the "Kitty" folder) and follow the instruction on screenshot no. 5."
In screenshot 6 we are in a Mac OS navigation window, viewing the contents of the "Kitty"-folder AFTER the pictures have been resized. = My original text: "B) Now go back to Yahoo mail, press the "Attach files" button and you will see that the thumbnails are now much BIGGER (see screenshot no. 6)."
>
> This all assumes Kitty has versions of Yahoo web email and iPhoto, that can do these things. Remember she is still running 10.4.11 on an eMac.
I'm beginning to doubt whether you read my post at all. I said unequivocally that OPTION 2 can be done in OS 10.4.11, so there is no need to remind of me of that.
>
> The way I suggested, is more like sneakerware, but will work with whatever versions of software Kitty is using, and with fewer steps.
I don't remember having seen any workable solutions from you. I guess I must read the whole thread once again ... LOL! How many steps do my solutions involve?
OPTION 2 involves 4 steps:
Choose your pictures,
Export them to a folder in Finder
Open Yahoo and press Attach Files.
Navigate to the pictures and click "Open".
That makes 4 easy, logical steps.
> View and select the photos outside of Yahoo web email, and not the names. Start attaching the photos inside of Yahoo web email and navigate to them by name and not image. Done.
Besides not understanding what you mean here, may I remind you that the OP – according to her own statement – is too lazy to assign names to her pictures. Therefore this particular advice is unrealistic.
Anna
---
>
> On May 29, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Anna Larson wrote:
>
>
> On 25.05.2012, at 00:05, Kitty wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Creating an email, I want to attach a photo. So I hit the words "ad attachment" on the Yahoo email window. The browser opens with places to choose up to 5 photos. I hit the first spot which opens to desk-top options where I have various named folders of photos to choose from. I open a folder but the photos in it are so small.....
>
>
> If you still insist on using the Yahoo webmail service then enlarging the thumbnails before you send photos shouldn't be any problem at all, contrary to what people here on the list have been telling you. In fact you have several options to choose from to accomplish this task. I am using OS 10.7.4, but I think this works basically the same in Tiger (v. 10.4.11).
>
> You use iPhoto to store your photos. Right?
>
> OPTION 1
>
> 1) Open your Yahoo mail. It should look something like this (screenshot no. 1).
>
> http://minus.com/mDZTyu3DS/
>
> [This page contains 8 screenshots. Use the arrow keys on your keyboard to navigate, or click on the arrows on the left and right side of the page. Please click on the pictures to enlarge them. The browser is Safari]
>
> As you can see two emails are flagged, which means this option is still offered by Yahoo, contrary to what you said in an earlier email.
>
> 2) Now click the "Compose Message" button. What you should see is shown on screenshot no. 2.
>
> 3) Press the "Attach Files" button and navigate to MEDIA (in the left lower corner of the Sidebar) and select "Photos". You will see the photos you have in iPhoto, large enough to pick and insert them into your Yahoo mail by clicking on the "Open" button. See screenshot no. 3 (with written instructions).
>
> If this MEDIA-Option, as I call it, is not available in OS 10.4.11 then go to
>
>
> OPTION 2
>
>
> 1) Open iPhoto; choose the photos you want to send
> 2) Create a folder on the Desktop and give it a meaningful name (I called my folder "Kitty").
> 3) Export the photos from iPhoto and place them into this folder.
> 4) Open your Yahoo mail.
> 5) Click the "Compose Message" button and then the "Attach files" button
> 6) Navigate to the folder into which you previously put your photos
> 7) What you now see might look like screenshot no. 4
>
> The thumbnails are far too small, aren't they? That's because they are small in Finder (I made it deliberately that way for the sake of this demonstration). In order to *enlarge* the thumbnails you do this:
>
> A) Open the folder in Finder (in our example the "Kitty" folder) and follow the instruction on screenshot no. 5.
>
> B) Now go back to Yahoo mail, press the "Attach files" button and you will see that the thumbnails are now much BIGGER (see screenshot no. 6).
>
>
> You can also use the Cover Flow option which brings us to
>
> OPTION 3
>
> a) Follow the instruction on screenshot no. 7
>
> b) This will give you huge thumbnails! See screenshot no. 8
>
>
> And now, after you have successfully sent photos of your beloved little animals, you can – or rather should – delete the folder you created on the Desktop. The originals are in iPhoto and we don't want to clutter our hard disks with duplicates, do we?
>
>
> Was this helpful?
>
>
> Anna Larson
> OS X 10.7.4
> MacBook Pro 17''
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Re: thumbnails too small
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Wed May 30, 2012 5:02 am (PDT)
On 30 May 2012 05:22, Anna Larson <pix@maksimo.de > wrote:
>
>
> If you still insist on using the Yahoo webmail service then enlarging the
> thumbnails before you send photos shouldn't be any problem at all, contrary
> to what people here on the list have been telling you. In fact you have
> several options to choose from to accomplish this task. I am using OS
> 10.7.4, but I think this works basically the same in Tiger (v. 10.4.11).
>
> You use iPhoto to store your photos. Right?
>
> OPTION 1
>
> 1) Open your Yahoo mail. It should look something like this (screenshot
> no. 1).
>
> http://minus.com/mDZTyu3DS/
>
> [This page contains 8 screenshots. Use the arrow keys on your keyboard to
> navigate, or click on the arrows on the left and right side of the page.
> Please click on the pictures to enlarge them. The browser is Safari]
>
> As you can see two emails are flagged, which means this option is still
> offered by Yahoo, contrary to what you said in an earlier email.
>
> 2) Now click the "Compose Message" button. What you should see is shown on
> screenshot no. 2.
>
> 3) Press the "Attach Files" button and navigate to MEDIA (in the left
> lower corner of the Sidebar) and select "Photos". You will see the photos
> you have in iPhoto, large enough to pick and insert them into your Yahoo
> mail by clicking on the "Open" button. See screenshot no. 3 (with written
> instructions).
>
> If this MEDIA-Option, as I call it, is not available in OS 10.4.11 then go
> to
>
>
> OPTION 2
>
>
> 1) Open iPhoto; choose the photos you want to send
> 2) Create a folder on the Desktop and give it a meaningful name (I called
> my folder "Kitty").
> 3) Export the photos from iPhoto and place them into this folder.
> 4) Open your Yahoo mail.
> 5) Click the "Compose Message" button and then the "Attach files" button
> 6) Navigate to the folder into which you previously put your photos
> 7) What you now see might look like screenshot no. 4
>
> The thumbnails are far too small, aren't they? That's because they are
> small in Finder (I made it deliberately that way for the sake of this
> demonstration). In order to *enlarge* the thumbnails you do this:
>
> A) Open the folder in Finder (in our example the "Kitty" folder) and
> follow the instruction on screenshot no. 5.
>
> B) Now go back to Yahoo mail, press the "Attach files" button and you will
> see that the thumbnails are now much BIGGER (see screenshot no. 6).
>
>
> You can also use the Cover Flow option which brings us to
>
> OPTION 3
>
> a) Follow the instruction on screenshot no. 7
>
> b) This will give you huge thumbnails! See screenshot no. 8
>
>
> And now, after you have successfully sent photos of your beloved little
> animals, you can – or rather should – delete the folder you created on the
> Desktop. The originals are in iPhoto and we don't want to clutter our hard
> disks with duplicates, do we?
>
>
> Was this helpful?
>
Anna,
That's excellent and I apologise for any misleading claims I might have
made, in particular the Media > Photos option when attaching to Yahoo Mail,
which I hadn't noticed before (I needed to scroll down to see it).
Some of the options you describe are not available to me, though (10.5.8),
and they won't be for Kitty either.
Otto
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Re: thumbnails too small
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com dalyjessup
Wed May 30, 2012 5:44 am (PDT)
On May 30, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Anna Larson wrote:
> OPTION 2 involves 4 steps:
>
> Choose your pictures,
> Export them to a folder in Finder
> Open Yahoo and press Attach Files.
> Navigate to the pictures and click "Open".
>
> That makes 4 easy, logical steps.
The idea of moving her photos to a folder in the Finder was suggested quite some time ago. As Brent pointed out, the OP said more than once that it was too much trouble for her to find her photos and select them in the Finder. She wants to be able to see large icons and file names within Yahoo and not have to go to the Finder.
Still, I thought you went to an admirable amount of trouble to help someone who is already calling us a bunch of "braggarts."
Daly
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Re: Unix executable files
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Wed May 30, 2012 1:27 am (PDT)
On May 29, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Joan Mihay wrote:
> They were created on WriteNow 3 or maybe 4.
You will need an old Mac with an old copy of WriteNow to open those
files perfectly. Another choice is an old Mac and an old copy of
MacLink Plus Translators (which was discontinued a number of years
ago itself).
The best that you can do using a modern Intel-based Mac running a
recent version of OS X is to open them with a true text editor and
save them as plain text, which will cause you to lose any complex
formatting and you will have to strip out some garbage from the
resulting text.
An almost ideal program to do this with is:
Tex-Edit Plus $15
http://www.tex-edit.com/
(not to be confused with Apple's TextEdit)
Another good choice for this is:
Can Opener $65
http://www.abbottsys.com/co. html
(won't run under Lion)
> unix executable files will not open with TextEdit.
>
TextEdit is not a true text editor. It is more a lightweight word
processor.
Note: WriteNow was discontinued around 1993. That's about 19 years
ago. Why did you wait so long to convert these files into a more
modern format?
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
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Re: Unix executable files
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com dalyjessup
Wed May 30, 2012 5:30 am (PDT)
On May 30, 2012, at 1:27 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> On May 29, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Joan Mihay wrote:
>
>> They were created on WriteNow 3 or maybe 4.
>
> You will need an old Mac with an old copy of WriteNow to open those
> files perfectly. Another choice is an old Mac and an old copy of
> MacLink Plus Translators (which was discontinued a number of years
> ago itself).
However, someone on this list offered to give/sell her WriteNow, and her computer can run Classic, so she could run MacLink Plus AND WriteNow in Classic mode. Some version of MacLink is available on eBay, as well as a couple of version 10 copies.
Daly
- 2c.
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Re: Unix executable files
Posted by: "1belami" 1belami@gmail.com bombino21217
Wed May 30, 2012 5:50 am (PDT)
Can anyone tell me the extension for WriteNow files?
Sent from my iPad
On May 30, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com > wrote:
>
> On May 30, 2012, at 1:27 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> >
> > On May 29, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Joan Mihay wrote:
> >
> >> They were created on WriteNow 3 or maybe 4.
> >
> > You will need an old Mac with an old copy of WriteNow to open those
> > files perfectly. Another choice is an old Mac and an old copy of
> > MacLink Plus Translators (which was discontinued a number of years
> > ago itself).
>
> However, someone on this list offered to give/sell her WriteNow, and her computer can run Classic, so she could run MacLink Plus AND WriteNow in Classic mode. Some version of MacLink is available on eBay, as well as a couple of version 10 copies.
>
> Daly
>
>
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Re: Unix executable files
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Wed May 30, 2012 6:01 am (PDT)
It seems to be .wn.
BTW I've just found this
<http://forums.macnn.com/ >82/applications/ 351451/os- x-app-can- open-writenow/
or <https://bitly.com/ >
----
Just a note for anyone else that needs to get at text within an old
WriteNow document on OSX:
You can use Word 2008 to extract the text (don't know about earlier
versions).
To do this from within Word:
1. Choose File menu > Open.
2. Select the file and click Open. Word will then present a small "Convert
File" dialog.
3. Choose the intuitively named "Recover Text From Any File" and click OK.
4. Enjoy your gloriously extracted 1997-era text.
The above works on some simple text files I have. I haven't tried it on
anything too complicated. Also, it leaves some post-conversion artifacts,
but hey, it works.
----
I wonder if Open/Libre/Neo Office would also work?
Otto
On 30 May 2012 13:50, 1belami <1belami@gmail.com > wrote:
> Can anyone tell me the extension for WriteNow files?
>
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How do I recover deleted files?
Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com ldina
Wed May 30, 2012 4:35 am (PDT)
I'm on OSX 10.6.8. I accidentally deleted a slew of large digital images and emptied my trash bin, and I need to recover them, if possible. They're on a separate data drive from my programs and OS, so I am hoping that makes recovery more likely.
I'd prefer to do it without software, but I'm not proud. If there is a good utility that will do it quickly and reliably (insofar as possible), I am willing to use it. Of course, if I can recover files without a utility and too much effort, I prefer that course.
Thanks for any help.
Lou
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Re: How do I recover deleted files?
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com dalyjessup
Wed May 30, 2012 5:39 am (PDT)
On May 30, 2012, at 4:35 AM, LouisD wrote:
> I'm on OSX 10.6.8. I accidentally deleted a slew of large digital images and emptied my trash bin, and I need to recover them, if possible. They're on a separate data drive from my programs and OS, so I am hoping that makes recovery more likely.
>
> I'd prefer to do it without software, but I'm not proud. If there is a good utility that will do it quickly and reliably (insofar as possible), I am willing to use it. Of course, if I can recover files without a utility and too much effort, I prefer that course.
I have had extremely good luck with both DataRescue and PhotoRescue.
DataRescue: <http://www.macupdate.com/app/ >mac/10259/ data-rescue
PhotoRescue: <http://www.datarescue.com/photoresc >ue/v3/index. htm
PhotoRescue is designed to work on memory cards. I don't known if it would work on a regular external drive (if you cloned your whole system to an external). They do offer a trial/demo version.
Of course, if you have been running TimeMachine, you could just go back to the backup just before you deleted the photos, and restore them to your current environment.
Daly
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Re: How do I recover deleted files?
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Wed May 30, 2012 5:52 am (PDT)
Assuming you have no backups (why?), I suggest PhotoRec. It runs under
Terminal but is free and easy to use. It comes with another utility called
TestDisk.
<
http://download.cnet.com/ TestDisk- PhotoRec/ 3000-2248_ 4-10511792. html?tag= pwd;alsoDlScroll er
?
or <http://cnet.co/KW2sMI >
(Ignore the Clean your Mac option!)
Otto
On 30 May 2012 12:35, LouisD <lou@loudina.com > wrote:
> I'm on OSX 10.6.8. I accidentally deleted a slew of large digital images
> and emptied my trash bin, and I need to recover them, if possible. They're
> on a separate data drive from my programs and OS, so I am hoping that makes
> recovery more likely.
>
> I'd prefer to do it without software, but I'm not proud. If there is a
> good utility that will do it quickly and reliably (insofar as possible), I
> am willing to use it. Of course, if I can recover files without a utility
> and too much effort, I prefer that course.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
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Re: How do I recover deleted files?
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Wed May 30, 2012 5:57 am (PDT)
Whatever you do, don't alter the state of the HD in any way (moving files, saving, deleting, etc.) 'til you do the recovery thing.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
O'Brien ¡V¡V¡V ¡V... .-. .. . -.
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