Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1.1.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: Sanjaya Kanoria
- 1.2.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: archiegrapa@yahoo.com
- 1.3.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: Sanjaya Kanoria
- 1.4.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: lwr32
- 1.5.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: lwr32
- 1.6.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: N.A. Nada
- 1.7.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: lwr32
- 1.8.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: N.A. Nada
- 1.9.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: Richard Bauer
- 1.10.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: Gretchen Hunter
- 1.11.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: Norah Clarke
- 1.12.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: Brian Bozzo
- 1.13.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: Richard Bauer
- 1.14.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: whiterabbit32
- 1.15.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: N.A. Nada
- 1.16.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: whiterabbit32
- 1.17.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: whiterabbit32
- 1.18.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: whiterabbit32
- 1.19.
- Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions From: Jeff Allison
- 2a.
- Re: apple id confirmation From: lwr32
- 2b.
- Re: apple id confirmation From: N.A. Nada
- 2c.
- Re: apple id confirmation From: Peter Sealy
- 2d.
- Re: apple id confirmation From: whiterabbit32
- 2e.
- Re: apple id confirmation From: whiterabbit32
- 3.
- Battery Lifetime From: Wilton
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- 1.1.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "Sanjaya Kanoria" wsbunter@gmail.com zixxwr
Thu May 3, 2012 3:06 am (PDT)
Chuck,
That sounds really scary. nothing like this has happened to me before but taking a cue from what you say I think it would be prudent to change all one's passwords regularly. obviously there are forces beyond my ken which are working in vast infinities of cyberspace.
Sanjay
DICTATED USING SIRI! That accounts for the loss of capital letters and some punctuation. Voice-recognition software is the next big thing that's going to alter the way the written word appears.
On 03-May-2012, at 7:43 AM, Charles <the_chuckmann@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Sanjaya,
>
> Like you, I had a similarly complex 8 digit password of both letters and numbers. I also felt "safe".
>
> Yet about a month ago, I received a n email containing a warning notification that someone had downloaded an app from a computer that was not my usual computer. I verified that the email was from Apple, and that the app was, in fact, purchased.
>
> Gladly, it was only a "free app" that was downloaded. But since I was obviously hacked, costly purchases could have occurred.
>
> Of course, I immediately changed my password; and I also deauthorized all computers. I only have one computer - but yet, more than one was shown authorized; I think three - the only other computer that I used to have authorized I still own, and it is not even connected to the internet, and it does not have iTunes loaded on it anymore.
>
> So, someone somewhere had my iTunes email address (not the one this email is sent from) AND they also had my 8 digit, letters and numbers password, and they had a computer authorized with my information.
>
> My new password is 12 digits, letters and numbers, some caps and some small, etc.... Also, I occasionally check to see if there are new computers authorized.
>
> I agree with others; I thought the new questions were not the best questions, too. But, I am proof that even a relatively complex password can be hacked, so the extra layer of security is not really a bad thing.
>
> Chuck F.
> NE PA
>
>
> _____________________ _________ __
> From: Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com >
> To: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups. " <apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. >com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
>
> Why, pray, do we need these additional security layers? They made me use a password with eight characters of which at least one was a capital letter and one a numeral. I'd think it nigh impossible to break into my account.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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- 1.2.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "archiegrapa@yahoo.com" archiegrapa@yahoo.com archiegrapa
Thu May 3, 2012 3:36 am (PDT)
I read from a news article last year about how stolen (hacked) iTunes accounts are being openly sold in some Chinese cities.
I'll try to google if I can find it.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
-----Original Message-----
From: Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com >
Sender: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:10:59
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. <apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. >com
Reply-To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Chuck,
That sounds really scary. nothing like this has happened to me before but taking a cue from what you say I think it would be prudent to change all one's passwords regularly. obviously there are forces beyond my ken which are working in vast infinities of cyberspace.
Sanjay
DICTATED USING SIRI! That accounts for the loss of capital letters and some punctuation. Voice-recognition software is the next big thing that's going to alter the way the written word appears.
On 03-May-2012, at 7:43 AM, Charles <the_chuckmann@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Sanjaya,
>
> Like you, I had a similarly complex 8 digit password of both letters and numbers. I also felt "safe".
>
> Yet about a month ago, I received a n email containing a warning notification that someone had downloaded an app from a computer that was not my usual computer. I verified that the email was from Apple, and that the app was, in fact, purchased.
>
> Gladly, it was only a "free app" that was downloaded. But since I was obviously hacked, costly purchases could have occurred.
>
> Of course, I immediately changed my password; and I also deauthorized all computers. I only have one computer - but yet, more than one was shown authorized; I think three - the only other computer that I used to have authorized I still own, and it is not even connected to the internet, and it does not have iTunes loaded on it anymore.
>
> So, someone somewhere had my iTunes email address (not the one this email is sent from) AND they also had my 8 digit, letters and numbers password, and they had a computer authorized with my information.
>
> My new password is 12 digits, letters and numbers, some caps and some small, etc.... Also, I occasionally check to see if there are new computers authorized.
>
> I agree with others; I thought the new questions were not the best questions, too. But, I am proof that even a relatively complex password can be hacked, so the extra layer of security is not really a bad thing.
>
> Chuck F.
> NE PA
>
>
> _____________________ _________ __
> From: Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com >
> To: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups. " <apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. >com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
>
> Why, pray, do we need these additional security layers? They made me use a password with eight characters of which at least one was a capital letter and one a numeral. I'd think it nigh impossible to break into my account.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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- 1.3.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "Sanjaya Kanoria" wsbunter@gmail.com zixxwr
Thu May 3, 2012 7:21 am (PDT)
Well this is definitely not happening here in india.
On 03-May-2012, at 4:00 PM, archiegrapa@yahoo.com wrote:
> I read from a news article last year about how stolen (hacked) iTunes accounts are being openly sold in some Chinese cities.
>
> I'll try to google if I can find it.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com >
> Sender: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:10:59
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. <apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. >com
> Reply-To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
>
> Chuck,
> That sounds really scary. nothing like this has happened to me before but taking a cue from what you say I think it would be prudent to change all one's passwords regularly. obviously there are forces beyond my ken which are working in vast infinities of cyberspace.
> Sanjay
>
> DICTATED USING SIRI! That accounts for the loss of capital letters and some punctuation. Voice-recognition software is the next big thing that's going to alter the way the written word appears.
>
> On 03-May-2012, at 7:43 AM, Charles <the_chuckmann@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> > Sanjaya,
> >
> > Like you, I had a similarly complex 8 digit password of both letters and numbers. I also felt "safe".
> >
> > Yet about a month ago, I received a n email containing a warning notification that someone had downloaded an app from a computer that was not my usual computer. I verified that the email was from Apple, and that the app was, in fact, purchased.
> >
> > Gladly, it was only a "free app" that was downloaded. But since I was obviously hacked, costly purchases could have occurred.
> >
> > Of course, I immediately changed my password; and I also deauthorized all computers. I only have one computer - but yet, more than one was shown authorized; I think three - the only other computer that I used to have authorized I still own, and it is not even connected to the internet, and it does not have iTunes loaded on it anymore.
> >
> > So, someone somewhere had my iTunes email address (not the one this email is sent from) AND they also had my 8 digit, letters and numbers password, and they had a computer authorized with my information.
> >
> > My new password is 12 digits, letters and numbers, some caps and some small, etc.... Also, I occasionally check to see if there are new computers authorized.
> >
> > I agree with others; I thought the new questions were not the best questions, too. But, I am proof that even a relatively complex password can be hacked, so the extra layer of security is not really a bad thing.
> >
> > Chuck F.
> > NE PA
> >
> >
> > _____________________ _________ __
> > From: Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com >
> > To: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups. " <apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. >com
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
> >
> > Why, pray, do we need these additional security layers? They made me use a password with eight characters of which at least one was a capital letter and one a numeral. I'd think it nigh impossible to break into my account.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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- 1.4.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Thu May 3, 2012 4:33 pm (PDT)
As was suggested, a password manager works well. I use 1 Password. Got it for free a few years ago on a promo thing. I have it generate passwords for me.
Don't forget, on Macs you have your keychain to look passwords up through. I don't know if Windows has something similar.
🐰 Alice
On May 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
> I filled in my security question-answers and now I've forgotten what they were! I'll have to rely upon my most unreliable memory!
>
> On 03-May-2012, at 3:09 AM, "Richard Bauer" <rk911@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> > simple solution. the *answer* to any security question doesn't have to be
> > something that matches the context of the question. for example, the answer
> > to "What was the first car you owned?" could be '2E$TG&jhg', 'aunt matilda's
> > cookies' or just about anything you want. and the answer to all security
> > questions can be the same answer. can't remember these answers or any
> > security questions? use a password manager like RoboForm
> > <www.roboform.com/>. remember...just because you're asked a question
> > doesn't mean you have to actually answer it.
> >
> > rich
> > _____________________
> >
> > But it's the selection of questions themselves that appear to be upsetting
> > some of the Apple faithful, according to The Register...Some people chiming
> > in on Apple Support Communities say the answers to certain questions are too
> > easy to figure out or are public knowledge. Others are saying they don't
> > even know the answers to certain
> > questions. A few have suggested that ... [Read more]
> >
> >
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- 1.5.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Thu May 3, 2012 4:44 pm (PDT)
Dictation certainly is the lazy way of doing things for those of us who don't really need it. Audiobooks too. There are those that really need it and it's great for them. I'm one that Doesn't need dictation, so haven't used it.
Reading, writing and typing are becoming lost forms of communication. Audiobooks have made it so most people don't read books anymore. Siri and other forms of dictation software have made it so people don't type anymore. One wonders why quite a few businesses want degrees even for low wage jobs. Could it be that having a degree means you can read, write and form complete sentences?
To those that gripe about having to answer a few simple security questions: it is better not to answer the questions with real answers. Real answers are easier to figure out for your average hacker.
🐰 Alice
On May 2, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
> Chuck,
> That sounds really scary. nothing like this has happened to me before but taking a cue from what you say I think it would be prudent to change all one's passwords regularly. obviously there are forces beyond my ken which are working in vast infinities of cyberspace.
> Sanjay
>
> DICTATED USING SIRI! That accounts for the loss of capital letters and some punctuation. Voice-recognition software is the next big thing that's going to alter the way the written word appears.
>
> On 03-May-2012, at 7:43 AM, Charles <the_chuckmann@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> > Sanjaya,
> >
> > Like you, I had a similarly complex 8 digit password of both letters and numbers. I also felt "safe".
> >
> > Yet about a month ago, I received a n email containing a warning notification that someone had downloaded an app from a computer that was not my usual computer. I verified that the email was from Apple, and that the app was, in fact, purchased.
> >
> > Gladly, it was only a "free app" that was downloaded. But since I was obviously hacked, costly purchases could have occurred.
> >
> > Of course, I immediately changed my password; and I also deauthorized all computers. I only have one computer - but yet, more than one was shown authorized; I think three - the only other computer that I used to have authorized I still own, and it is not even connected to the internet, and it does not have iTunes loaded on it anymore.
> >
> > So, someone somewhere had my iTunes email address (not the one this email is sent from) AND they also had my 8 digit, letters and numbers password, and they had a computer authorized with my information.
> >
> > My new password is 12 digits, letters and numbers, some caps and some small, etc.... Also, I occasionally check to see if there are new computers authorized.
> >
> > I agree with others; I thought the new questions were not the best questions, too. But, I am proof that even a relatively complex password can be hacked, so the extra layer of security is not really a bad thing.
> >
> > Chuck F.
> > NE PA
> >
> >
> > _____________________ _________ __
> > From: Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com >
> > To: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups. " <apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. >com
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
> >
> > Why, pray, do we need these additional security layers? They made me use a password with eight characters of which at least one was a capital letter and one a numeral. I'd think it nigh impossible to break into my account.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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- 1.6.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Thu May 3, 2012 4:47 pm (PDT)
Keychain is good if you never leave your Mac, but I used to travel for a living, and so standing at the counter of the airline or hotel, it was not always handy. I like it synced to another device like my cellphone, and so 1 Password or many of the others makes a good alternative.
Also if the only place you have is on your Mac, what happens when you HD dies? I won't sync my passwords or my keychain to the clouds.
Brent
On May 3, 2012, at 4:33 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> As was suggested, a password manager works well. I use 1 Password. Got it for free a few years ago on a promo thing. I have it generate passwords for me.
>
> Don't forget, on Macs you have your keychain to look passwords up through. I don't know if Windows has something similar.
>
> 🐰 Alice
>
> On May 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > I filled in my security question-answers and now I've forgotten what they were! I'll have to rely upon my most unreliable memory!
- 1.7.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Thu May 3, 2012 4:53 pm (PDT)
No one should worry about their hd dying if they do regular backups. I use Time Machine for the everyday backup and Carbon Copy Cloner for the monthly backup. The monthly backup hd is stored at my parents (off-site storage).
🐰 Alice
On May 3, 2012, at 4:45 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> Keychain is good if you never leave your Mac, but I used to travel for a living, and so standing at the counter of the airline or hotel, it was not always handy. I like it synced to another device like my cellphone, and so 1 Password or many of the others makes a good alternative.
>
> Also if the only place you have is on your Mac, what happens when you HD dies? I won't sync my passwords or my keychain to the clouds.
>
> Brent
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 4:33 PM, lwr32 wrote:
>
> > As was suggested, a password manager works well. I use 1 Password. Got it for free a few years ago on a promo thing. I have it generate passwords for me.
> >
> > Don't forget, on Macs you have your keychain to look passwords up through. I don't know if Windows has something similar.
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
> >
> > On May 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > > I filled in my security question-answers and now I've forgotten what they were! I'll have to rely upon my most unreliable memory!
>
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- 1.8.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Thu May 3, 2012 5:37 pm (PDT)
Now address the mobility issue.
On May 3, 2012, at 4:53 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> No one should worry about their hd dying if they do regular backups. I use Time Machine for the everyday backup and Carbon Copy Cloner for the monthly backup. The monthly backup hd is stored at my parents (off-site storage).
>
> 🐰 Alice
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 4:45 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
>
> > Keychain is good if you never leave your Mac, but I used to travel for a living, and so standing at the counter of the airline or hotel, it was not always handy. I like it synced to another device like my cellphone, and so 1 Password or many of the others makes a good alternative.
> >
> > Also if the only place you have is on your Mac, what happens when you HD dies? I won't sync my passwords or my keychain to the clouds.
> >
> > Brent
> >
> > On May 3, 2012, at 4:33 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> >
> > > As was suggested, a password manager works well. I use 1 Password. Got it for free a few years ago on a promo thing. I have it generate passwords for me.
> > >
> > > Don't forget, on Macs you have your keychain to look passwords up through. I don't know if Windows has something similar.
> > >
> > > 🐰 Alice
> > >
> > > On May 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I filled in my security question-answers and now I've forgotten what they were! I'll have to rely upon my most unreliable memory!
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
- 1.9.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "Richard Bauer" rk911@yahoo.com rk911
Thu May 3, 2012 5:46 pm (PDT)
the internet explorer and google (chrome) browsers will also remember passwords. RoboForm remembers passwords AND user id's as well as generating passwords of any length and combination of letters, numbers and symbols...decimal or hex. it will also fill in forms with other forms of user id and credit card numbers...real or virtual. i bought the ugrade but i believe the basic pgm is free.
rich
- 1.10.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "Gretchen Hunter" gretchenhunter@mac.com mmbkaajn
Thu May 3, 2012 6:12 pm (PDT)
No offense Alice, but audiobooks and dictation are hardly lazy. I have an hour commute one way, and audiobooks are a Godsend. I use dictation less, but it can often save me time on some projects.
I still read and type much more than listen and talk, but I like the option. With audiobooks and eBooks, my reading has increased dramatically.
Gretchen
Sent from my iPad
On May 3, 2012, at 7:44 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> Dictation certainly is the lazy way of doing things for those of us who don't really need it. Audiobooks too. There are those that really need it and it's great for them. I'm one that Doesn't need dictation, so haven't used it.
>
> Reading, writing and typing are becoming lost forms of communication. Audiobooks have made it so most people don't read books anymore. Siri and other forms of dictation software have made it so people don't type anymore. One wonders why quite a few businesses want degrees even for low wage jobs. Could it be that having a degree means you can read, write and form complete sentences?
>
> To those that gripe about having to answer a few simple security questions: it is better not to answer the questions with real answers. Real answers are easier to figure out for your average hacker.
>
> 🐰 Alice
- 1.11.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "Norah Clarke" lnorah@hotmail.com lnorah_2002
Thu May 3, 2012 6:21 pm (PDT)
I use a program called sticky password, what I love about it is that it comes with a portable version that you can download to a USB drive and use on any computer so you always have you passwords with you, this is great for me because at work I get moved to fill in at other peoples desks and I can use the portable version and only have to remember my master password, they also have a version for the iPhone! I have ben using this program for several years and the one or two times I have needed to support I have emailed them and had a reply within 24 hours.
From: Richard Bauer
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 7:44 PM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [apple-iphone] iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
the internet explorer and google (chrome) browsers will also remember passwords. RoboForm remembers passwords AND user id's as well as generating passwords of any length and combination of letters, numbers and symbols...decimal or hex. it will also fill in forms with other forms of user id and credit card numbers...real or virtual. i bought the ugrade but i believe the basic pgm is free.
rich
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "Brian Bozzo" brianbozzo@yahoo.com roqabilly
Thu May 3, 2012 6:22 pm (PDT)
I'm with Gretchen on this one. I can lay on a couch and read or I can listen to an audio book while I go for a run. Which sounds lazy now :)
Brian
Sent from my iPhone
On May 3, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Gretchen Hunter <gretchenhunter@mac.com > wrote:
> No offense Alice, but audiobooks and dictation are hardly lazy. I have an hour commute one way, and audiobooks are a Godsend. I use dictation less, but it can often save me time on some projects.
>
> I still read and type much more than listen and talk, but I like the option. With audiobooks and eBooks, my reading has increased dramatically.
>
> Gretchen
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 7:44 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Dictation certainly is the lazy way of doing things for those of us who don't really need it. Audiobooks too. There are those that really need it and it's great for them. I'm one that Doesn't need dictation, so haven't used it.
>>
>> Reading, writing and typing are becoming lost forms of communication. Audiobooks have made it so most people don't read books anymore. Siri and other forms of dictation software have made it so people don't type anymore. One wonders why quite a few businesses want degrees even for low wage jobs. Could it be that having a degree means you can read, write and form complete sentences?
>>
>> To those that gripe about having to answer a few simple security questions: it is better not to answer the questions with real answers. Real answers are easier to figure out for your average hacker.
- 1.13.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "Richard Bauer" rk911@yahoo.com rk911
Thu May 3, 2012 6:50 pm (PDT)
that's a neat feature. RoboForm has the same features as well as a free iPhone app.
rich
- 1.14.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Thu May 3, 2012 10:12 pm (PDT)
Mobility issue?
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 3, 2012, at 5:35 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> Now address the mobility issue.
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 4:53 PM, lwr32 wrote:
>
> > No one should worry about their hd dying if they do regular backups. I use Time Machine for the everyday backup and Carbon Copy Cloner for the monthly backup. The monthly backup hd is stored at my parents (off-site storage).
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
> >
> > On May 3, 2012, at 4:45 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> >
> > > Keychain is good if you never leave your Mac, but I used to travel for a living, and so standing at the counter of the airline or hotel, it was not always handy. I like it synced to another device like my cellphone, and so 1 Password or many of the others makes a good alternative.
> > >
> > > Also if the only place you have is on your Mac, what happens when you HD dies? I won't sync my passwords or my keychain to the clouds.
> > >
> > > Brent
> > >
> > > On May 3, 2012, at 4:33 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> > >
> > > > As was suggested, a password manager works well. I use 1 Password. Got it for free a few years ago on a promo thing. I have it generate passwords for me.
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget, on Macs you have your keychain to look passwords up through. I don't know if Windows has something similar.
> > > >
> > > > 🐰 Alice
> > > >
> > > > On May 2, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria <wsbunter@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I filled in my security question-answers and now I've forgotten what they were! I'll have to rely upon my most unreliable memory!
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
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- 1.15.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Thu May 3, 2012 10:24 pm (PDT)
Well, I agree with Gretchen and Brian. Using audio books is not being lazy.
For years, I have only read about one book a year for pleasure. I listen to one to two audio books a week for pleasure, sometimes polishing off as many as five in a week. I listen while I commute, performing boring tasks at work, long distance driving, gardening, cooking, or sitting in a sports bar (because I am not a sports fan).
Audio books don't work well for studying or research. I read ASME standards, OSHA regulations, and professional journals for work, so don't anyone dare call me a lazy reader.
So Alice, do you want to rethink that opinion about audio books? And while you are at it, rethink dictation, too. There are times when dictation is appropriate, and I can not think of one situation where I would call it lazy.
Brent
-This post typed with all ten of my fingers.
On May 3, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Brian Bozzo wrote:
> I'm with Gretchen on this one. I can lay on a couch and read or I can listen to an audio book while I go for a run. Which sounds lazy now :)
>
> Brian
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Gretchen Hunter <gretchenhunter@mac.com > wrote:
>
> > No offense Alice, but audiobooks and dictation are hardly lazy. I have an hour commute one way, and audiobooks are a Godsend. I use dictation less, but it can often save me time on some projects.
> >
> > I still read and type much more than listen and talk, but I like the option. With audiobooks and eBooks, my reading has increased dramatically.
> >
> > Gretchen
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On May 3, 2012, at 7:44 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> >> Dictation certainly is the lazy way of doing things for those of us who don't really need it. Audiobooks too. There are those that really need it and it's great for them. I'm one that Doesn't need dictation, so haven't used it.
> >>
> >> Reading, writing and typing are becoming lost forms of communication. Audiobooks have made it so most people don't read books anymore. Siri and other forms of dictation software have made it so people don't type anymore. One wonders why quite a few businesses want degrees even for low wage jobs. Could it be that having a degree means you can read, write and form complete sentences?
> >>
- 1.16.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Thu May 3, 2012 11:14 pm (PDT)
No offense taken. I'm not saying audio books and dictation are the lazy way out all the time. Times when one could read a book they don't. It's just as easy for me to listen to an audiobook as to read a book in bed. I'd rather read a book and keep up my reading skills.
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 3, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Gretchen Hunter <gretchenhunter@mac.com > wrote:
> No offense Alice, but audiobooks and dictation are hardly lazy. I have an hour commute one way, and audiobooks are a Godsend. I use dictation less, but it can often save me time on some projects.
>
> I still read and type much more than listen and talk, but I like the option. With audiobooks and eBooks, my reading has increased dramatically.
>
> Gretchen
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 7:44 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Dictation certainly is the lazy way of doing things for those of us who don't really need it. Audiobooks too. There are those that really need it and it's great for them. I'm one that Doesn't need dictation, so haven't used it.
> >
> > Reading, writing and typing are becoming lost forms of communication. Audiobooks have made it so most people don't read books anymore. Siri and other forms of dictation software have made it so people don't type anymore. One wonders why quite a few businesses want degrees even for low wage jobs. Could it be that having a degree means you can read, write and form complete sentences?
> >
> > To those that gripe about having to answer a few simple security questions: it is better not to answer the questions with real answers. Real answers are easier to figure out for your average hacker.
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
>
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- 1.17.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Thu May 3, 2012 11:35 pm (PDT)
I'm not going to be made to feel like I have to defend myself or have my words taken out of context here. That's not why I joined this group. Doesn't matter how many for instances I come up with for reading a good book, there will always be those who will give for instances when an audio book is the better choice.
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 3, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Brian Bozzo <brianbozzo@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I'm with Gretchen on this one. I can lay on a couch and read or I can listen to an audio book while I go for a run. Which sounds lazy now :)
>
> Brian
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Gretchen Hunter <gretchenhunter@mac.com > wrote:
>
> > No offense Alice, but audiobooks and dictation are hardly lazy. I have an hour commute one way, and audiobooks are a Godsend. I use dictation less, but it can often save me time on some projects.
> >
> > I still read and type much more than listen and talk, but I like the option. With audiobooks and eBooks, my reading has increased dramatically.
> >
> > Gretchen
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On May 3, 2012, at 7:44 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> >> Dictation certainly is the lazy way of doing things for those of us who don't really need it. Audiobooks too. There are those that really need it and it's great for them. I'm one that Doesn't need dictation, so haven't used it.
> >>
> >> Reading, writing and typing are becoming lost forms of communication. Audiobooks have made it so most people don't read books anymore. Siri and other forms of dictation software have made it so people don't type anymore. One wonders why quite a few businesses want degrees even for low wage jobs. Could it be that having a degree means you can read, write and form complete sentences?
> >>
> >> To those that gripe about having to answer a few simple security questions: it is better not to answer the questions with real answers. Real answers are easier to figure out for your average hacker.
>
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- 1.18.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Thu May 3, 2012 11:54 pm (PDT)
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 3, 2012, at 10:19 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
>
> Audio books don't work well for studying or research. I read ASME standards, OSHA regulations, and professional journals for work, so don't anyone dare call me a lazy reader.
>
I never called you a lazy reader.
> So Alice, do you want to rethink that opinion about audio books? And while you are at it, rethink dictation, too. There are times when dictation is appropriate, and I can not think of one situation where I would call it lazy.
>
>
No, I do not want to rethink my opinion of audio books and dictation. It is too easy to turn on an audio book in situations when picking up a book or your idevice is readily available to read. It's like the calculator, there's all kinds of situations where a calculator is very useful but taken out of those situations and used, math skills are lost. Same with reading and writing.
> Brent
>
> -This post typed with all ten of my fingers.
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Brian Bozzo wrote:
>
> > I'm with Gretchen on this one. I can lay on a couch and read or I can listen to an audio book while I go for a run. Which sounds lazy now :)
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On May 3, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Gretchen Hunter <gretchenhunter@mac.com > wrote:
> >
> > > No offense Alice, but audiobooks and dictation are hardly lazy. I have an hour commute one way, and audiobooks are a Godsend. I use dictation less, but it can often save me time on some projects.
> > >
> > > I still read and type much more than listen and talk, but I like the option. With audiobooks and eBooks, my reading has increased dramatically.
> > >
> > > Gretchen
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On May 3, 2012, at 7:44 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dictation certainly is the lazy way of doing things for those of us who don't really need it. Audiobooks too. There are those that really need it and it's great for them. I'm one that Doesn't need dictation, so haven't used it.
> > >>
> > >> Reading, writing and typing are becoming lost forms of communication. Audiobooks have made it so most people don't read books anymore. Siri and other forms of dictation software have made it so people don't type anymore. One wonders why quite a few businesses want degrees even for low wage jobs. Could it be that having a degree means you can read, write and form complete sentences?
> > >>
>
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- 1.19.
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Re: iTunes users griping about Apple's security questions
Posted by: "Jeff Allison" jeff.allison@allygray.2y.net jeff+allison
Thu May 3, 2012 11:58 pm (PDT)
You don't need to defend yourself... But it was you thatade the accusation
of laziness...
Sent from my iPhone
On 04/05/2012, at 16:35, whiterabbit32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
I'm not going to be made to feel like I have to defend myself or have my
words taken out of context here. That's not why I joined this group.
Doesn't matter how many for instances I come up with for reading a good
book, there will always be those who will give for instances when an audio
book is the better choice.
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 3, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Brian Bozzo <brianbozzo@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I'm with Gretchen on this one. I can lay on a couch and read or I can
listen to an audio book while I go for a run. Which sounds lazy now :)
>
> Brian
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Gretchen Hunter <gretchenhunter@mac.com >
wrote:
>
> > No offense Alice, but audiobooks and dictation are hardly lazy. I have
an hour commute one way, and audiobooks are a Godsend. I use dictation
less, but it can often save me time on some projects.
> >
> > I still read and type much more than listen and talk, but I like the
option. With audiobooks and eBooks, my reading has increased dramatically.
> >
> > Gretchen
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On May 3, 2012, at 7:44 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> >> Dictation certainly is the lazy way of doing things for those of us
who don't really need it. Audiobooks too. There are those that really need
it and it's great for them. I'm one that Doesn't need dictation, so haven't
used it.
> >>
> >> Reading, writing and typing are becoming lost forms of communication.
Audiobooks have made it so most people don't read books anymore. Siri and
other forms of dictation software have made it so people don't type
anymore. One wonders why quite a few businesses want degrees even for low
wage jobs. Could it be that having a degree means you can read, write and
form complete sentences?
> >>
> >> To those that gripe about having to answer a few simple security
questions: it is better not to answer the questions with real answers. Real
answers are easier to figure out for your average hacker.
>
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- 2a.
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Re: apple id confirmation
Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Thu May 3, 2012 4:47 pm (PDT)
I've already filled out the questions. Yes, I do think Apple is getting paranoid about accounts getting hacked.
🐰 Alice
On May 2, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Vishal Sheth <vusheth@gmail.com > wrote:
> Best is go to the site and check. I think they as for security questions
> when one logs in into itunes or website.
>
> Vishal Sheth
> On May 3, 2012 12:11 AM, "lwr32" <whiterabbit32@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > It's just Apple being paranoid again LOL
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
> >
> > On May 2, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Paul Deyo <paul.deyo@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > > thanks everyone.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 at 9:45 AM, J. R. Rosen wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Got it this morning.
> > > >
> > > > It's really from Apple.
> > > >
> > > > J R Rosen
> > > > 281.467.5366
> > > > jrosen82@sbcglobal.net (mailto:jrosen82%40sbcglobal. net)
> > > > dilloman@armadillo-press.com (mailto:dilloman%40armadillo- press.com)
> > > >
> > > > On May 2, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Paul Deyo <paul.deyo@gmail.com (mailto:
> > paul.deyo%40gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Has anyone else gotten this message asking to set the stupid
> > security questions and provide an email address from Apple? Seems a little
> > strange. I am nervous since my previous apple account was hacked.
> > > > > Thanks.
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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- 2b.
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Re: apple id confirmation
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Thu May 3, 2012 5:36 pm (PDT)
Why do you feel that?
This is exactly the same as what your bank and credit card companies have asked you. iTunes, your bank and your credit cards all deal with YOUR money, don't they? And you expect them to safe guard your money, don't you?
With the whining on the tech blogs and the negative posts on the tech lists about hacked iTunes accounts, I think it is way over due, but not as elegantly done as Apple normally operates. Even if I feel a lot of the hacked accounts are because of bad user habits, i.e. weak passwords or using only one password for everything.
Just my opinion,
Brent
On May 3, 2012, at 4:47 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> I've already filled out the questions. Yes, I do think Apple is getting paranoid about accounts getting hacked.
>
> 🐰 Alice
- 2c.
-
Re: apple id confirmation
Posted by: "Peter Sealy" carpet3@internode.on.net sealy_peter
Fri May 4, 2012 12:00 am (PDT)
I agree with Brent's sentiments.
One point overlooked is that everyone on this list and most other boards talking about this issue have perhaps not looked outside the square. People everywhere are trying to rack their 50 year old (+ ?) memories for their first car, attractive teacher, etc. You don't have to be honest about this. Just write any word (s) for each answer which you can easily remember - yellow, bear, cabbage, ... anything. Apple neither knows nor cares what answer you record just as long as you can repeat it when required.
Another point is that you can change your answers to these questions if you now are dissatisfied. See these posts:
<https://discussions.apple.com/ >message/18247356 #18247356
<https://discussions.apple.com/ >message/18198778 #18198778
<https://discussions.apple.com/ >message/18192916 #18192916
Finally, since completing those security questions I have purchased several albums, a few single songs and at least two apps from the iTunes Store. I have not been asked my security questions.
..................... ...
Peter Sealy
Thurgoona AUSTRALIA
On 04/05/2012, at 10:32 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Why do you feel that?
>
> This is exactly the same as what your bank and credit card companies have asked you. iTunes, your bank and your credit cards all deal with YOUR money, don't they? And you expect them to safe guard your money, don't you?
>
> With the whining on the tech blogs and the negative posts on the tech lists about hacked iTunes accounts, I think it is way over due, but not as elegantly done as Apple normally operates. Even if I feel a lot of the hacked accounts are because of bad user habits, i.e. weak passwords or using only one password for everything.
>
> Just my opinion,
>
> Brent
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 4:47 PM, lwr32 wrote:
>
> > I've already filled out the questions. Yes, I do think Apple is getting paranoid about accounts getting hacked.
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
>
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- 2d.
-
Re: apple id confirmation
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Fri May 4, 2012 12:19 am (PDT)
You took the words right out of my mouth on that one :-) Users bad habits. Apple has all of us fill out security questions because of the bad habits of some people. Maybe that's why people are whining about it? It doesn't bother me that Apple has taken an extra step in security measures for us. It just makes me think is Apple going to go further? How much further? On the other hand, hasn't it been the users responsibility to come up with a strong password? The tools Apple gives you are only as good as the user makes them (if that makes sense).
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 3, 2012, at 5:32 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> Why do you feel that?
>
> This is exactly the same as what your bank and credit card companies have asked you. iTunes, your bank and your credit cards all deal with YOUR money, don't they? And you expect them to safe guard your money, don't you?
>
> With the whining on the tech blogs and the negative posts on the tech lists about hacked iTunes accounts, I think it is way over due, but not as elegantly done as Apple normally operates. Even if I feel a lot of the hacked accounts are because of bad user habits, i.e. weak passwords or using only one password for everything.
>
> Just my opinion,
>
> Brent
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 4:47 PM, lwr32 wrote:
>
> > I've already filled out the questions. Yes, I do think Apple is getting paranoid about accounts getting hacked.
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
>
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- 2e.
-
Re: apple id confirmation
Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Fri May 4, 2012 12:23 am (PDT)
I'm thinking the security questions are asked when you click the forgot password link to make sure it's the rightful owner of the account. Could be wrong.
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On May 3, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Peter Sealy <carpet3@internode.on.net > wrote:
> I agree with Brent's sentiments.
>
> One point overlooked is that everyone on this list and most other boards talking about this issue have perhaps not looked outside the square. People everywhere are trying to rack their 50 year old (+ ?) memories for their first car, attractive teacher, etc. You don't have to be honest about this. Just write any word (s) for each answer which you can easily remember - yellow, bear, cabbage, ... anything. Apple neither knows nor cares what answer you record just as long as you can repeat it when required.
>
> Another point is that you can change your answers to these questions if you now are dissatisfied. See these posts:
> <https://discussions.apple.com/ >message/18247356 #18247356
> <https://discussions.apple.com/ >message/18198778 #18198778
> <https://discussions.apple.com/ >message/18192916 #18192916
>
> Finally, since completing those security questions I have purchased several albums, a few single songs and at least two apps from the iTunes Store. I have not been asked my security questions.
>
> ..................... ...
>
> Peter Sealy
> Thurgoona AUSTRALIA
>
> On 04/05/2012, at 10:32 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> > Why do you feel that?
> >
> > This is exactly the same as what your bank and credit card companies have asked you. iTunes, your bank and your credit cards all deal with YOUR money, don't they? And you expect them to safe guard your money, don't you?
> >
> > With the whining on the tech blogs and the negative posts on the tech lists about hacked iTunes accounts, I think it is way over due, but not as elegantly done as Apple normally operates. Even if I feel a lot of the hacked accounts are because of bad user habits, i.e. weak passwords or using only one password for everything.
> >
> > Just my opinion,
> >
> > Brent
> >
> > On May 3, 2012, at 4:47 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> >
> > > I've already filled out the questions. Yes, I do think Apple is getting paranoid about accounts getting hacked.
> > >
> > > 🐰 Alice
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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- 3.
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Battery Lifetime
Posted by: "Wilton" wilton.hart@gmail.com wiltonh2000
Thu May 3, 2012 11:59 pm (PDT)
Over the last few weeks I have been asking my friends about how they charge their phones. There seems to be two extremes.
Method One
Use the phone until the battery is about 90% gone and then put it on the charger. Allow it to fully charge and then take if off the charger. This matches how my phone gets charged when I travel.
Method Two
Every evening the phone is connected to a wall charger next to the bed and the phone is left connected over night. It then charges from 7 to 10 hours every day. The phone never gets run down very far using this method.
The questions is, which method results in a longer battery life?
Most batteries are specified to have say X number of recharge cycles. This changes with manufacture and chemistry.
If the charge controller in the phone does a good job then charging the phone every night causes the phone to run off its battery about 1/3 less hours every day. This in turn, cuts down on the total number of cycles by 1/3 which seems to say the battery should last longer.
Does this make sense?
Wilton
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