5/07/2012

[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2993

Messages In This Digest (22 Messages)

1a.
Re: iPhone Apps Grayed out on iTunes From: David Morganstein
2.1.
apple id confirmation From: Sanjaya Kanoria
2.2.
Re: apple id confirmation From: Otto Nikolaus
2.3.
Re: apple id confirmation From: Sanjaya Kanoria
2.4.
Re: apple id confirmation From: N.A. Nada
2.5.
Re: apple id confirmation From: lwr32
3.1.
Re: Dropbox From: Carol Corley
3.2.
Re: Dropbox From: Chris Laarman
3.3.
Re: Dropbox From: Pabitra Saha
3.4.
Re: Dropbox From: Chris Laarman
3.5.
Re: Dropbox From: lwr32
3.6.
Re: Dropbox From: Brent
3.7.
Re: Dropbox From: lwr32
3.8.
Re: Dropbox From: Jim Saklad
4a.
Apps question From: Golden One 7
4b.
Re: Apps question From: Susan Ferraglio
4c.
Re: Apps question From: Golden One 7
4d.
Re: Apps question From: N.A. Nada
4e.
Re: Apps question From: Tony
5a.
New question about Dropbox From: CambridgeHank
5b.
Re: New question about Dropbox From: Iam Noone
6a.
Re: AT&T CEO bemoans iPhone unlimited data, iMessage From: lwr32

Messages

1a.

Re: iPhone Apps Grayed out on iTunes

Posted by: "David Morganstein" drm0223@mac.com   drm0223

Sun May 6, 2012 4:33 am (PDT)



Try rebooting the iPhone.

David

On May 5, 2012, at 9:54 PM, SmokieTopaz <smokietopaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, my iPhone is connected to the computer. I am trying to organize them
> in iTunes, as I always did. But my apps screens are grayed out and clicking
> on apps or trying to drag them does nothing. I can do all of those things
> though with my iPad connected to the same computer. Very strange!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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2.1.

apple id confirmation

Posted by: "Sanjaya Kanoria" wsbunter@gmail.com   zixxwr

Sun May 6, 2012 4:33 am (PDT)



Actually I don't think the questions are so bad and at least I have clear recollections of the answers to the questions that I choose. I'm not complaining. I still think its fantastic to be able to use the iPhone 4s.

On 06-May-2012, at 4:37 AM, "Richard Bauer" <rk911@yahoo.com> wrote:

> that's why several of us have recommended using a password vault app/pgm. several have been mentioned. or use something easy to remember but not relevant to the question. mother's maiden name, dog's name, etc. where there is a will there is a way.
>
> rich
> ________________
>
> If you answer with just anything how on earth are you going to remember your answers? One may just as well use a very long and impossible to remember password. No solution at all my friend.
>
>

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2.2.

Re: apple id confirmation

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sun May 6, 2012 4:34 am (PDT)



That's why I gave examples of fake answers that *could* easily be
remembered.

But really, it's probably safe to write down your passwords and keep the
list in a drawer somewhere. The people who might exploit your passwords are
*not* the people who might break into your house to steal stuff.

Otto

On 5 May 2012 21:13, Patti A Robertson <pattiandken@charter.net> wrote:

> Exactly. The thing is, I hardly knew the answer to a single question - I
> mean, sure, I know what the first car I drove was, but would I answer with
> that, or the first car I actually owned? Would I remember which choice I
> made later?
>
> Passwords are really getting to be a major pain. There must be a better
> way...
>

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2.3.

Re: apple id confirmation

Posted by: "Sanjaya Kanoria" wsbunter@gmail.com   zixxwr

Sun May 6, 2012 4:35 am (PDT)



I've got 1password but haven't ever used it. I'll try now. But I'd like to use the autofill feature. Why are you against it?

On 06-May-2012, at 1:58 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Patti and Sanjaya,
>
> The problem is not with the questions or your memory, it is __that you are trying to remember the answers__. Look them up in a password vault application.
>
> I have over 400 entries in my password vault app. 90% of the passwords are randomly generated, and many of the answers are randomly generated gibberish also. Think of the questions as just numbers. When you get asked place of birth, that means "supply answer number 3", and reply with answer 3 for this site. That answer could be Patagonia, Pride and Prejudice, 4th of July, a phone number or gibberish. Randomly generated gibberish is better, because we all tend to repeat things and or are predictable.
>
> My password vault app is on two of my computers and my cellphone. All nicely encrypted and available to me whenever I need them, even if one of the devices is not working, or say I booted into Boot Camp, or I am at the airport.
>
> And I highly recommend not using the auto-fill feature for you, or syncing to the clouds. The few seconds it take for you to look up the passwords are moments to reflect on whether this is a valid site, reconsider the purchase, or if you are being swindled. You may save a few seconds, but you may lose security and money.
>
> If I were to go looking to steal a bunch of passwords, I wouldn't go looking for individual computers to hack, I would go to the mother lode and hack a password server. Instead of a few hundred passwords for everything under the sun, I would go after tens of thousands of passwords and sort through and get the ones that represent money, not some online library card.
>
> The police asked the bank robber why he kept robbing banks, and he answered, "Because that is where they keep the money." That is why they keep hacking servers like Paypal or iTunes. That is where the passwords that give them access to money is.
>
> Now go find a password vault app, and don't use the auto-fill or syncing to any server. You should be able to find one that will sync with your computer and iDevice or cell phone for under $15 total, probably under $10.
>
> If I haven't made my reasoning clear, ask more questions.
>
> Brent
>
> On May 5, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria wrote:
>
> > If you answer with just anything how on earth are you going to remember your answers? One may just as well use a very long and impossible to remember password. No solution at all my friend.
> >
> > On 05-May-2012, at 11:37 AM, Patti A Robertson <pattiandken@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, but that's exactly the problem - how will I ever remember the answer to a question I don't remember the answer to, if I pick a "bad" answer?
> > >
> > > The problem is with the questions.
> > >
> > > Patti
> > >
> > > On May 3, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Peter Sealy wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree with Brent's sentiments.
> > > >
> > > > One point overlooked is that everyone on this list and most other boards talking about this issue have perhaps not looked outside the square. People everywhere are trying to rack their 50 year old (+ ?) memories for their first car, attractive teacher, etc. You don't have to be honest about this. Just write any word (s) for each answer which you can easily remember - yellow, bear, cabbage, ... anything. Apple neither knows nor cares what answer you record just as long as you can repeat it when required.
> > > >
> > > > Another point is that you can change your answers to these questions if you now are dissatisfied. See these posts:
> > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/message/18247356#18247356>
> > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/message/18198778#18198778>
> > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/message/18192916#18192916>
> > > >
> > > > Finally, since completing those security questions I have purchased several albums, a few single songs and at least two apps from the iTunes Store. I have not been asked my security questions.
> > > >
> > > > ........................
> > > >
> > > > Peter Sealy
> > > > Thurgoona AUSTRALIA
> > > >
> > > > On 04/05/2012, at 10:32 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why do you feel that?
> > > > >
> > > > > This is exactly the same as what your bank and credit card companies have asked you. iTunes, your bank and your credit cards all deal with YOUR money, don't they? And you expect them to safe guard your money, don't you?
> > > > >
> > > > > With the whining on the tech blogs and the negative posts on the tech lists about hacked iTunes accounts, I think it is way over due, but not as elegantly done as Apple normally operates. Even if I feel a lot of the hacked accounts are because of bad user habits, i.e. weak passwords or using only one password for everything.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just my opinion,
> > > > >
> > > > > Brent
> > > > >
> > > > > On May 3, 2012, at 4:47 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've already filled out the questions. Yes, I do think Apple is getting paranoid about accounts getting hacked.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 🐰 Alice
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2.4.

Re: apple id confirmation

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun May 6, 2012 12:34 pm (PDT)



Because those few seconds, give you a pause to reconsider the purchase, think about if you are being swindled, or recognize a fake.

The best protection against encountering a piece of malware is not to connect your computer to the internet and removing all the input ports. But that is not practical.

The second best is when a human operator takes a moment to think.

Why do you think hackers have moved to "drive-by" sites to introduce malware. Because people are finally starting to recognize the spoofs, phishing, and fakes.

Yeah, you save a few seconds, until you get scammed out of some information that leads to the lose of hundreds of dollars. Then you will waste a whole lot more time trying to fix things, change passwords, close accounts and try to get back the money. All that time and money wasted just to save a few seconds.

Think people, think.

On May 5, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria wrote:

> I've got 1password but haven't ever used it. I'll try now. But I'd like to use the autofill feature. Why are you against it?
>
> On 06-May-2012, at 1:58 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Patti and Sanjaya,
> >
> > The problem is not with the questions or your memory, it is __that you are trying to remember the answers__. Look them up in a password vault application.
> >
> > I have over 400 entries in my password vault app. 90% of the passwords are randomly generated, and many of the answers are randomly generated gibberish also. Think of the questions as just numbers. When you get asked place of birth, that means "supply answer number 3", and reply with answer 3 for this site. That answer could be Patagonia, Pride and Prejudice, 4th of July, a phone number or gibberish. Randomly generated gibberish is better, because we all tend to repeat things and or are predictable.
> >
> > My password vault app is on two of my computers and my cellphone. All nicely encrypted and available to me whenever I need them, even if one of the devices is not working, or say I booted into Boot Camp, or I am at the airport.
> >
> > And I highly recommend not using the auto-fill feature for you, or syncing to the clouds. The few seconds it take for you to look up the passwords are moments to reflect on whether this is a valid site, reconsider the purchase, or if you are being swindled. You may save a few seconds, but you may lose security and money.
> >
> > If I were to go looking to steal a bunch of passwords, I wouldn't go looking for individual computers to hack, I would go to the mother lode and hack a password server. Instead of a few hundred passwords for everything under the sun, I would go after tens of thousands of passwords and sort through and get the ones that represent money, not some online library card.
> >
> > The police asked the bank robber why he kept robbing banks, and he answered, "Because that is where they keep the money." That is why they keep hacking servers like Paypal or iTunes. That is where the passwords that give them access to money is.
> >
> > Now go find a password vault app, and don't use the auto-fill or syncing to any server. You should be able to find one that will sync with your computer and iDevice or cell phone for under $15 total, probably under $10.
> >
> > If I haven't made my reasoning clear, ask more questions.
> >
> > Brent
> >
> > On May 5, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria wrote:
> >
> > > If you answer with just anything how on earth are you going to remember your answers? One may just as well use a very long and impossible to remember password. No solution at all my friend.
> > >
> > > On 05-May-2012, at 11:37 AM, Patti A Robertson <pattiandken@charter.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, but that's exactly the problem - how will I ever remember the answer to a question I don't remember the answer to, if I pick a "bad" answer?
> > > >
> > > > The problem is with the questions.
> > > >
> > > > Patti
> > > >
> > > > On May 3, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Peter Sealy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I agree with Brent's sentiments.
> > > > >
> > > > > One point overlooked is that everyone on this list and most other boards talking about this issue have perhaps not looked outside the square. People everywhere are trying to rack their 50 year old (+ ?) memories for their first car, attractive teacher, etc. You don't have to be honest about this. Just write any word (s) for each answer which you can easily remember - yellow, bear, cabbage, ... anything. Apple neither knows nor cares what answer you record just as long as you can repeat it when required.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another point is that you can change your answers to these questions if you now are dissatisfied. See these posts:
> > > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/message/18247356#18247356>
> > > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/message/18198778#18198778>
> > > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/message/18192916#18192916>
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, since completing those security questions I have purchased several albums, a few single songs and at least two apps from the iTunes Store. I have not been asked my security questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > ........................
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter Sealy
> > > > > Thurgoona AUSTRALIA
> > > > >
> > > > > On 04/05/2012, at 10:32 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Why do you feel that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is exactly the same as what your bank and credit card companies have asked you. iTunes, your bank and your credit cards all deal with YOUR money, don't they? And you expect them to safe guard your money, don't you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the whining on the tech blogs and the negative posts on the tech lists about hacked iTunes accounts, I think it is way over due, but not as elegantly done as Apple normally operates. Even if I feel a lot of the hacked accounts are because of bad user habits, i.e. weak passwords or using only one password for everything.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just my opinion,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brent
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On May 3, 2012, at 4:47 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've already filled out the questions. Yes, I do think Apple is getting paranoid about accounts getting hacked.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 🐰 Alice
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2.5.

Re: apple id confirmation

Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sun May 6, 2012 2:48 pm (PDT)



How do you remember the password to your computer (if you have one)? How do you remember your PayPal or other website password? How did you remember your iTunes password? It all seems to be the same principle, doesn't it? I totally agree with N.A. Nada, use a password vault app.

I was very skeptical about using a password vault app for a long time. I didn't want to depend on a particular app for all my passwords. In the end, I was talked into 1Password and have used it for 3 yrs. A password vault app is the easiest app to use for passwords. It becomes part of your life, just like using a computer, at least for me. I came from a DOS environment to a Windows environment to what I use now, Mac. Security has always been a worry for me. Even with Macs, I'm still conscious of security measures. Passwords and security questions are security measures that make the hacker work harder to get at your accounts.

This may sound extreme but there's only one way around passwords that I know of, don't use anything that requires a password. There goes using a computer and anything associated with computers. I'm not willing to give up computers, so passwords will always be a part of my life.

🐰 Alice

On May 6, 2012, at 11:56 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Because those few seconds, give you a pause to reconsider the purchase, think about if you are being swindled, or recognize a fake.
>
> The best protection against encountering a piece of malware is not to connect your computer to the internet and removing all the input ports. But that is not practical.
>
> The second best is when a human operator takes a moment to think.
>
> Why do you think hackers have moved to "drive-by" sites to introduce malware. Because people are finally starting to recognize the spoofs, phishing, and fakes.
>
> Yeah, you save a few seconds, until you get scammed out of some information that leads to the lose of hundreds of dollars. Then you will waste a whole lot more time trying to fix things, change passwords, close accounts and try to get back the money. All that time and money wasted just to save a few seconds.
>
> Think people, think.
>
> On May 5, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria wrote:
>
> > I've got 1password but haven't ever used it. I'll try now. But I'd like to use the autofill feature. Why are you against it?
> >
> > On 06-May-2012, at 1:58 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Patti and Sanjaya,
> > >
> > > The problem is not with the questions or your memory, it is __that you are trying to remember the answers__. Look them up in a password vault application.
> > >
> > > I have over 400 entries in my password vault app. 90% of the passwords are randomly generated, and many of the answers are randomly generated gibberish also. Think of the questions as just numbers. When you get asked place of birth, that means "supply answer number 3", and reply with answer 3 for this site. That answer could be Patagonia, Pride and Prejudice, 4th of July, a phone number or gibberish. Randomly generated gibberish is better, because we all tend to repeat things and or are predictable.
> > >
> > > My password vault app is on two of my computers and my cellphone. All nicely encrypted and available to me whenever I need them, even if one of the devices is not working, or say I booted into Boot Camp, or I am at the airport.
> > >
> > > And I highly recommend not using the auto-fill feature for you, or syncing to the clouds. The few seconds it take for you to look up the passwords are moments to reflect on whether this is a valid site, reconsider the purchase, or if you are being swindled. You may save a few seconds, but you may lose security and money.
> > >
> > > If I were to go looking to steal a bunch of passwords, I wouldn't go looking for individual computers to hack, I would go to the mother lode and hack a password server. Instead of a few hundred passwords for everything under the sun, I would go after tens of thousands of passwords and sort through and get the ones that represent money, not some online library card.
> > >
> > > The police asked the bank robber why he kept robbing banks, and he answered, "Because that is where they keep the money." That is why they keep hacking servers like Paypal or iTunes. That is where the passwords that give them access to money is.
> > >
> > > Now go find a password vault app, and don't use the auto-fill or syncing to any server. You should be able to find one that will sync with your computer and iDevice or cell phone for under $15 total, probably under $10.
> > >
> > > If I haven't made my reasoning clear, ask more questions.
> > >
> > > Brent
> > >
> > > On May 5, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Sanjaya Kanoria wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you answer with just anything how on earth are you going to remember your answers? One may just as well use a very long and impossible to remember password. No solution at all my friend.
> > > >
> > > > On 05-May-2012, at 11:37 AM, Patti A Robertson <pattiandken@charter.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, but that's exactly the problem - how will I ever remember the answer to a question I don't remember the answer to, if I pick a "bad" answer?
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is with the questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Patti
> > > > >
> > > > > On May 3, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Peter Sealy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I agree with Brent's sentiments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One point overlooked is that everyone on this list and most other boards talking about this issue have perhaps not looked outside the square. People everywhere are trying to rack their 50 year old (+ ?) memories for their first car, attractive teacher, etc. You don't have to be honest about this. Just write any word (s) for each answer which you can easily remember - yellow, bear, cabbage, ... anything. Apple neither knows nor cares what answer you record just as long as you can repeat it when required.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another point is that you can change your answers to these questions if you now are dissatisfied. See these posts:
> > > > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/message/18247356#18247356>
> > > > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/message/18198778#18198778>
> > > > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/message/18192916#18192916>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finally, since completing those security questions I have purchased several albums, a few single songs and at least two apps from the iTunes Store. I have not been asked my security questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ........................
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter Sealy
> > > > > > Thurgoona AUSTRALIA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 04/05/2012, at 10:32 AM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why do you feel that?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is exactly the same as what your bank and credit card companies have asked you. iTunes, your bank and your credit cards all deal with YOUR money, don't they? And you expect them to safe guard your money, don't you?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With the whining on the tech blogs and the negative posts on the tech lists about hacked iTunes accounts, I think it is way over due, but not as elegantly done as Apple normally operates. Even if I feel a lot of the hacked accounts are because of bad user habits, i.e. weak passwords or using only one password for everything.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just my opinion,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brent
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On May 3, 2012, at 4:47 PM, lwr32 wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've already filled out the questions. Yes, I do think Apple is getting paranoid about accounts getting hacked.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 🐰 Alice
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3.1.

Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "Carol Corley" floridabouvs@gmail.com   floridabouvs

Sun May 6, 2012 7:28 am (PDT)



Thanks to all the suggestions. I watched the tour and it definitely sounds interesting. But the 2g isn't much, and after that it's $10 a month. Can't I do much the same thing with the Cloud, which has a considerably lower annual cost?
Thanks,
Carol

Sent from my iPad

3.2.

Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "Chris Laarman" v.c.laarman@gmail.com   chrislaarman

Sun May 6, 2012 12:34 pm (PDT)



Carol Corley <floridabouvs@gmail.com> on Sun, 6 May 2012 10:21:49
-0400:

>Thanks to all the suggestions. I watched the tour and it definitely sounds interesting. But the 2g isn't much, and after that it's $10 a month. Can't I do much the same thing with the Cloud, which has a considerably lower annual cost?

I use Dropbox for three purposes:
- exchanging files among several computers that are not up
simultaneously;
- having certain documents available at a meeting;
- having few files "sticky".

I currently have 87 MB in 147 files.

You could also create a Microsoft Live account (or perhaps more than
one) with 8 GB free SkyDrive space. (Look for the free SkyDrive app.)
» Existing Live (or Hotmail) users may have little time left to keep
their original 25 GB. <https://skydrive.live.com/ManageStorage>
» Additional storage is far cheaper than with Dropbox. But SkyDrive
doesn't automatically synchronize.

Besides, I have a subdomain at my website dedicated to sharing files
with others. I send them the URL of the index file, and after a month
I remove them all.
(This is a paid website. I may be entitled to some home page with my
ISP too.)

Hope this helps. :-)

--
Chris Laarman

3.3.

Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "Pabitra Saha" pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk   pksaha000

Sun May 6, 2012 1:28 pm (PDT)



What is a "sticky" file?

On 6 May 2012, at 19:56, Chris Laarman <v.c.laarman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Carol Corley <floridabouvs@gmail.com> on Sun, 6 May 2012 10:21:49
> -0400:
>
> >Thanks to all the suggestions. I watched the tour and it definitely sounds interesting. But the 2g isn't much, and after that it's $10 a month. Can't I do much the same thing with the Cloud, which has a considerably lower annual cost?
>
> I use Dropbox for three purposes:
> - exchanging files among several computers that are not up
> simultaneously;
> - having certain documents available at a meeting;
> - having few files "sticky".
>
> I currently have 87 MB in 147 files.
>
> You could also create a Microsoft Live account (or perhaps more than
> one) with 8 GB free SkyDrive space. (Look for the free SkyDrive app.)
> » Existing Live (or Hotmail) users may have little time left to keep
> their original 25 GB. <https://skydrive.live.com/ManageStorage>
> » Additional storage is far cheaper than with Dropbox. But SkyDrive
> doesn't automatically synchronize.
>
> Besides, I have a subdomain at my website dedicated to sharing files
> with others. I send them the URL of the index file, and after a month
> I remove them all.
> (This is a paid website. I may be entitled to some home page with my
> ISP too.)
>
> Hope this helps. :-)
>
> --
> Chris Laarman
>

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3.4.

Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "Chris Laarman" v.c.laarman@gmail.com   chrislaarman

Sun May 6, 2012 2:08 pm (PDT)



Pabitra Saha <pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk> on Sun, 6 May 2012 22:21:47 +0200:

>What is a "sticky" file?

I borrowed that word from forum tables, where some topics or messages
stay at the top. By "sticky" files I mean: files that I want to stay present where they are: to be viewed or copied, not to be moved to a destination or repository.

Chris Laarman

3.5.

Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sun May 6, 2012 2:11 pm (PDT)



Is Dropbox still giving you 250MB extra just for signing up? A few months ago I was given 300MB just for being a member. So Dropbox is somewhat liberal in giving away space. As a member, if you send invites to your friends and they sign up, Dropbox gives you extra space.

I really haven't used my Microsoft Live space much. From what I understand, the file size that can be uploaded is up to 300MB. Dropbox has no file size limit except for the amount of space a member currently has.

🐰 Alice

On May 6, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Carol Corley <floridabouvs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to all the suggestions. I watched the tour and it definitely sounds interesting. But the 2g isn't much, and after that it's $10 a month. Can't I do much the same thing with the Cloud, which has a considerably lower annual cost?
> Thanks,
> Carol
>
> Sent from my iPad
>

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3.6.

Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "Brent" flapdoodle@gmail.com   flapdoodle44

Sun May 6, 2012 2:14 pm (PDT)



Alice,

They have changed it to 500mb for a total of up to 16gb.

Brent

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:11 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Is Dropbox still giving you 250MB extra just for signing up? A few months
> ago I was given 300MB just for being a member. So Dropbox is somewhat
> liberal in giving away space. As a member, if you send invites to your
> friends and they sign up, Dropbox gives you extra space.
>
> I really haven't used my Microsoft Live space much. From what I
> understand, the file size that can be uploaded is up to 300MB. Dropbox has
> no file size limit except for the amount of space a member currently has.
>
> 🐰 Alice
>
>
> On May 6, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Carol Corley <floridabouvs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to all the suggestions. I watched the tour and it definitely
> sounds interesting. But the 2g isn't much, and after that it's $10 a month.
> Can't I do much the same thing with the Cloud, which has a considerably
> lower annual cost?
> > Thanks,
> > Carol
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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3.7.

Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sun May 6, 2012 3:00 pm (PDT)



Nice :-) k've used Dropbox so long I haven't kept tract of what's being given away. I pay for my account for more space.

🐰 Alice

On May 6, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Brent <flapdoodle@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alice,
>
> They have changed it to 500mb for a total of up to 16gb.
>
> Brent
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:11 PM, lwr32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Is Dropbox still giving you 250MB extra just for signing up? A few months
> > ago I was given 300MB just for being a member. So Dropbox is somewhat
> > liberal in giving away space. As a member, if you send invites to your
> > friends and they sign up, Dropbox gives you extra space.
> >
> > I really haven't used my Microsoft Live space much. From what I
> > understand, the file size that can be uploaded is up to 300MB. Dropbox has
> > no file size limit except for the amount of space a member currently has.
> >
> > 🐰 Alice
> >
> >
> > On May 6, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Carol Corley <floridabouvs@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks to all the suggestions. I watched the tour and it definitely
> > sounds interesting. But the 2g isn't much, and after that it's $10 a month.
> > Can't I do much the same thing with the Cloud, which has a considerably
> > lower annual cost?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Carol
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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3.8.

Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun May 6, 2012 3:45 pm (PDT)



> I use Dropbox for three purposes:
> - exchanging files among several computers that are not up
> simultaneously;
> - having certain documents available at a meeting;
> - having few files "sticky".
>
> I currently have 87 MB in 147 files.

I have a little short of 1 GB, half of which is a photo gallery which I moved there from MobileMe several months ago.

When I did that, I sent information about DropBox, and a URL for this gallery, to some friends, and 2 of them signed up with DropBox, and I got another 500 MB of space for the referrals.

I have several hardware and software manuals in there, several "Take Control" e-books, some restaurant menus, and a bunch of other documents -- 95 documents and 455 MB.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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4a.

Apps question

Posted by: "Golden One 7" gryone77@yahoo.com   gryone77

Sun May 6, 2012 9:07 am (PDT)



How do you transfer or download apps that you have downloaded to your iPhone onto/into your iTunes? Any help is greatly appreciated.

4b.

Re: Apps question

Posted by: "Susan Ferraglio" bladessf@aol.com   bladessf2000

Sun May 6, 2012 9:17 am (PDT)



Connect phone to computer right click on the phone listing in iTunes and click on transfer purchases - I believe!!
Sue

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Golden One 7 <gryone77@yahoo.com> wrote:

> How do you transfer or download apps that you have downloaded to your iPhone onto/into your iTunes? Any help is greatly appreciated.

4c.

Re: Apps question

Posted by: "Golden One 7" gryone77@yahoo.com   gryone77

Sun May 6, 2012 9:30 am (PDT)



Ok will try that and see if it works
Thanks

On May 6, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Susan Ferraglio <bladessf@aol.com> wrote:

> Connect phone to computer right click on the phone listing in iTunes and click on transfer purchases - I believe!!
> Sue
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 6, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Golden One 7 <gryone77@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > How do you transfer or download apps that you have downloaded to your iPhone onto/into your iTunes? Any help is greatly appreciated.

4d.

Re: Apps question

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sun May 6, 2012 12:34 pm (PDT)



Just sync the two.

On May 6, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Golden One 7 wrote:

> How do you transfer or download apps that you have downloaded to your iPhone onto/into your iTunes? Any help is greatly appreciated.

4e.

Re: Apps question

Posted by: "Tony" tdale@xtra.co.nz   tdale@xtra.co.nz

Sun May 6, 2012 12:34 pm (PDT)



If you connect to PC, start itunes and sync, that will as well

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Golden One 7 <gryone77@...> wrote:
>
> Ok will try that and see if it works
> Thanks
>
>
> On May 6, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Susan Ferraglio <bladessf@...> wrote:
>
> > Connect phone to computer right click on the phone listing in iTunes and click on transfer purchases - I believe!!
> > Sue
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On May 6, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Golden One 7 <gryone77@...> wrote:
> >
> > > How do you transfer or download apps that you have downloaded to your iPhone onto/into your iTunes? Any help is greatly appreciated.
>

5a.

New question about Dropbox

Posted by: "CambridgeHank" cambridgehank@yahoo.com   cambridgehank

Sun May 6, 2012 2:39 pm (PDT)



I had my files stored on Mobileme for a long while.  Apple moved everything to iCloud except for storing my files.   I have been looking at Dropbox but do not see a way to move my files from mobileme.com to dropbox?  Any help will be appreciated.
Hank

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5b.

Re: New question about Dropbox

Posted by: "Iam Noone" iphone@bill-crawford.com   whcraw5

Sun May 6, 2012 2:54 pm (PDT)



MobileMe.com/move

Sent from my iPhone 4S w/iOS5.1 

On May 6, 2012, at 5:30 PM, CambridgeHank <cambridgehank@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I had my files stored on Mobileme for a long while. Apple moved everything to iCloud except for storing my files. I have been looking at Dropbox but do not see a way to move my files from mobileme.com to dropbox? Any help will be appreciated.
> Hank
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

6a.

Re: AT&T CEO bemoans iPhone unlimited data, iMessage

Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Sun May 6, 2012 3:42 pm (PDT)



All the while I read the article I kept thinking the underlying message from AT&T was that they're not making as much money as they think they should or could make.....complaining about iMessage instead of their fee based SMS when the article says "which is basically free for carriers to operate as texts are transmitted through radio network's control channel..." I shake my head and wonder when business ethics changed from doing what it takes to keep customers to caring about money over customers.

🐰 Alice

On May 5, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Brent <flapdoodle@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/05/04/att_ceo_bemoans_iphone_unlimited_data_imessage.html
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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