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1.1.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: Tod Hopkins
1.2.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: Tod Hopkins
1.3.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: Michael P. Stupinski
1.4.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: Keith Whaley
1.5.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: OBrien
1.6.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: N.A. Nada
1.7.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: OBrien
1.8.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: Cherie Beauton
1.9.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: Cherie Beauton
1.10.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: Keith Whaley
1.11.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: Randy B. Singer
1.12.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software From: Otto Nikolaus

2a.: Re: DVD Movie to iTunes From: Jim Smith
2b.: Re: DVD Movie to iTunes From: Harold Flaxman

3a.: Re: Can´t restore software on old iMac 800 Mhz Power G4 Computer From: Denver Dan

4a.: Program and Data Migration Question From: LouisD
4b.: Re: Program and Data Migration Question From: Harold Flaxman

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1.1.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop

Mon May 7, 2012 7:15 am (PDT)

There are programs in some local jurisdictions to take monitors without fees. Check with your county waste management.

Cheers,
tod

On May 7, 2012, at 9:24 AM, OBrien wrote:

> On Sun, 6 May 2012 23:09:21 -0400, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> > I offered them an Apple IIgs computer about 7 years ago, but hey
> > already had one, so now I have two of them (plus an Apple II+) in my
> > attic that I will end up throwing away....
>
> There are a couple of places here that accept all sorts of electronics for recycling. The only things they charge a fee to take are monitors. Maybe, you have a recycler, too.
>
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1.2.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop

Mon May 7, 2012 7:18 am (PDT)

Apple II systems and parts still sell on eBay, at least those in good working condition. Especially complete, clean systems.

Cheers,
tod

On May 6, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:

> You might contact the DigiBarn Computer Museum at <www.digibarn.com/>
> to see if there's anything they might be interested in.
>
> Navigating through their website would be both interesting and
> educational anyway.
>
> I offered them an Apple IIgs computer about 7 years ago, but hey
> already had one, so now I have two of them (plus an Apple II+) in my
> attic that I will end up throwing away when I'm ready to sell this
> house and downsize (if the market ever improves enough to make that
> possible).
>
> .................Mike
>
> On May 6, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Tony Troiano wrote:
>
> > Having gone through a whole lot of storage I have come upon software
> > I had purchased dating from the days of Mac OS 7, ClarisWorks, a
> > myriad of Adobe apps, utility apps such as Norton and Virex, early
> > versions of Toast, and many, many more. All are in their original
> > boxes with manuals intact.
> >
> > Its likely that no one would be interested in any of this obsolete
> > software, even for donation. Having never discarded this kind of
> > material I am not sure how to proceed. Do I simply put it all out in
> > the recycle pail?
> >
> > --Tony--
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1.3.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net mstupinski

Mon May 7, 2012 8:57 am (PDT)

I can recycle the stuff right here at our Public Works Department.
I've already dropped off 4 tube TVs there this year. I had been
hoping the computers would be of some value to someone other than what
could be recovered from the disassembled or mashed parts. :-)

............Mike

On May 7, 2012, at 9:24 AM, OBrien wrote:

> On Sun, 6 May 2012 23:09:21 -0400, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
>> I offered them an Apple IIgs computer about 7 years ago, but hey
>> already had one, so now I have two of them (plus an Apple II+) in my
>> attic that I will end up throwing away....
>
> There are a couple of places here that accept all sorts of
> electronics for recycling. The only things they charge a fee to take
> are monitors. Maybe, you have a recycler, too.
>
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1.4.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com keith9600

Mon May 7, 2012 12:59 pm (PDT)

Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> I can recycle the stuff right here at our Public Works Department.
> I've already dropped off 4 tube TVs there this year. I had been
> hoping the computers would be of some value to someone other than what
> could be recovered from the disassembled or mashed parts. :-)
>
> ............Mike

For several iterations now, I have given my previous computer to my wife
or one of my granddaughters.
This time, my 5 year old iMac is too obsolete!
Who'd want that, Grandpa?
So, unless my son wants it for a unique keepsake, I'll be heading down
to the PWD myself... Too bad.

Me, I'm getting another 21.5" iMac, with great specs and double my
current RAM, etc., etc.
Plus, it's got an extended SD slot. Plus Wireless keyboard, quad core
processor.

Well, you get the idea. This machine is easily twice, and in some
instances 4X as good as my current 5-year old machine. Time to jump.

keith

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1.5.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru

Mon May 7, 2012 3:34 pm (PDT)

On Mon, 07 May 2012 12:59:09 -0700, Keith Whaley wrote:
> This time, my 5 year old iMac is too obsolete!
> Who'd want that, Grandpa?

I bet there are plenty people who can't afford a computer that would love to have it. Ask around

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1.6.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Mon May 7, 2012 4:38 pm (PDT)

On May 7, 2012, at 3:34 PM, OBrien wrote:

> On Mon, 07 May 2012 12:59:09 -0700, Keith Whaley wrote:
> > This time, my 5 year old iMac is too obsolete!
> > Who'd want that, Grandpa?
>
> I bet there are plenty people who can't afford a computer that would love to have it. Ask around

Exactly. Heck, my main Mac, an early 2008 MBP, is 4 years old and still does everything I need. My second Mac is a G4 Quicksilver 2002, and is currently dedicated to converting VHS to DVD format, and it does it just fine.

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1.7.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru

Mon May 7, 2012 4:42 pm (PDT)

On Mon, 7 May 2012 16:38:05 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Exactly. Heck, my main Mac, an early 2008 MBP, is 4 years old and
> still does everything I need. My second Mac is a G4 Quicksilver
> 2002, and is currently dedicated to converting VHS to DVD format,
> and it does it just fine.

My main Mac is a six-year-old G5 tower. Also, I run an old G4 Quicksilver just for viewing images in Photoshop and playing music in iTunes.

A five-year-old iMac would be perfectly useful for many people. I'll take it, if your just going to dump it. :-)

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1.8.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "Cherie Beauton" apple_mac_icat@yahoo.com apple_mac_icat

Mon May 7, 2012 4:59 pm (PDT)

Hi.

I work with disabled (spinal cord injuries) people. On what they get a month to live on, they can't afford a pc let alone a Mac.

A five year old Mac would be greatly appreciated as a donation.

C

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2012, at 7:42 PM, OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 7 May 2012 16:38:05 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
>> Exactly. Heck, my main Mac, an early 2008 MBP, is 4 years old and
>> still does everything I need. My second Mac is a G4 Quicksilver
>> 2002, and is currently dedicated to converting VHS to DVD format,
>> and it does it just fine.
>
> My main Mac is a six-year-old G5 tower. Also, I run an old G4 Quicksilver just for viewing images in Photoshop and playing music in iTunes.
>
> A five-year-old iMac would be perfectly useful for many people. I'll take it, if your just going to dump it. :-)
>
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1.9.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "Cherie Beauton" apple_mac_icat@yahoo.com apple_mac_icat

Mon May 7, 2012 5:13 pm (PDT)

Sorry. I should have given you the name of the group so you know I'm not a troll. My bad. :/

Spinal Cord Injury Support Group (self-explanatory) in Novi, MI.

These folks are so busy paying for their meds, their co-pay on rehabilitation, and all the basic devices they need, they can't save up for computers. Then they are behind on skills in the job market.

All around, it sucks. Everyone there would rather have legs than sit in a chair all day. These aren't lazy people.

Should I post the phone number on this forum? You can google it.

C

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2012, at 7:42 PM, OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 7 May 2012 16:38:05 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
>> Exactly. Heck, my main Mac, an early 2008 MBP, is 4 years old and
>> still does everything I need. My second Mac is a G4 Quicksilver
>> 2002, and is currently dedicated to converting VHS to DVD format,
>> and it does it just fine.
>
> My main Mac is a six-year-old G5 tower. Also, I run an old G4 Quicksilver just for viewing images in Photoshop and playing music in iTunes.
>
> A five-year-old iMac would be perfectly useful for many people. I'll take it, if your just going to dump it. :-)
>
>
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Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com keith9600

Mon May 7, 2012 5:57 pm (PDT)

OBrien wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2012 16:38:05 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > Exactly. Heck, my main Mac, an early 2008 MBP, is 4 years old and
> > still does everything I need. My second Mac is a G4 Quicksilver
> > 2002, and is currently dedicated to converting VHS to DVD format,
> > and it does it just fine.

> My main Mac is a six-year-old G5 tower. Also, I run an old G4
> Quicksilver just for viewing images in Photoshop and playing music in
> iTunes.
>
> A five-year-old iMac would be perfectly useful for many people. I'll
> take it, if your just going to dump it. :-)
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>
> O'Brien â€"â€"â€" â€"... .-. .. . -.

My son checked in, and it just so happens his Mac Mini ~ roughly the
same age ~ is showing signs of rapidly increasing deterioration. I
promised it to him.
It all works out well...

Thanks for the pointers and suggestions.

keith

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1.11.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger

Tue May 8, 2012 2:55 am (PDT)

There are lots of groups that would be interested in the donation.
They send such thing to impoverished communities, or overseas to
impoverished countries.

Freecycle
http://www.freecycle.org

Computers for Kids
http://www.c4konline.org/
http://www.cfkidaho.org/
http://www.computers4kids.net/

Geeks Without Borders
http://www.geekswithoutborders.org/

Gifts In Kind
http://www.giftsinkind.org

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Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
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1.12.: Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf

Tue May 8, 2012 4:15 am (PDT)

On 7 May 2012 23:34, OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net> wrote:

>
> I bet there are plenty people who can't afford a computer that would love
> to have it. Ask around
>

Freecycle?

Otto

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2a.: Re: DVD Movie to iTunes

Posted by: "Jim Smith" jas1931@gmail.com jimmacsmith

Mon May 7, 2012 10:25 am (PDT)

Thanks Dan and Harry
I tried Handbreak for three DVD and it has did the job. It did crash once, during the third DVD. Think I need to do separate run on each DVD.
Jim Smith
www.rvcarelogbook.com

On May 6, 2012, at 11:57 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> Handbrake is a great free app for this as well as file conversion.
>
> Handbrake.fr
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> Harry
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> Sent from Harry's iPod !
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> On May 6, 2012, at 18:54, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> How do you copy a DVD movie to iTunes and what application do I need.
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2b.: Re: DVD Movie to iTunes

Posted by: "Harold Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001

Mon May 7, 2012 1:33 pm (PDT)

Sure Jim. You'll find that Handbrake makes an excellent video file conversion utility as well.

Harry

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On May 7, 2012, at 13:24, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Dan and Harry
> I tried Handbreak for three DVD and it has did the job. It did crash once, during the third DVD. Think I need to do separate run on each DVD.
> Jim Smith

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3a.: Re: Can´t restore software on old iMac 800 Mhz Power G4 Computer

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180

Mon May 7, 2012 11:13 am (PDT)

Howdy.

Bo, your description of the iMac is not exact but if it is an iMac
(Flat Panel) with Model Identifier "PowerMac4,2" then it was introduced
in January 2002 and discontinued in February 2003.

(You can see the Model identifier using System Profiler if it will
boot.)

This model can have up to Mac OS X 10.4.11 installed on it.

A .gz file is a compressed file aka a GNU Zip file.

Stuffit Expander should be able to decompress it.

Stuffit Deluxe is a commercial file decompression and archiving utility
that has been the default for compression on Mac going back many
years.

Stuffit has a free component that anyone can download called Stuffit
Expander. It comes with Stuffit Deluxe if you buy the program but
anyone can download this free part. There is a version for Macintosh
and one for Windows but Windows users always freak out over it. No
idea why.

<http://www.stuffit.com/mac-deluxe.html>

Stuffit Expander can decompress approximately 25 different compressed
file formats like sit, site, gz, zip, tar, and more.

You'll see a Free Expander download button at the link above.

Denver Dan

On Mon, 07 May 2012 07:26:17 +0000, boingvars wrote:
> My name is Bo, and I need some advice how to restore software on this
> old iMac ( I guess it´s from the time this group once started )
>
> Anyway, I bought the iMac used, and included was a Mac OS X Install
> CD, Mac OS version 10.1.2
>
> And 4 each Software Restore CD:s
> CD 1 of 4: Mac OS X and MAC OS 9
> CD 2 of 4: Mac OS X and MAC OS 9 applications
> CD 3 of 4: - " -
> Cd 4 of 4. - " -
>
> I was interested to restore software to the computer, and presumed I
> should use Mac 10.1.2, and put the CD into the drive, restarted the
> computer with a finger on c,and made a clean install.
>
> I then try to use Software restore CD1, but the SoftwareRestore.pkg
> couldn´t restore any software, when i try to open the packag
> something named the installer started up, and another window
> When I look into the package I found a Archive.pax.gz file, and when
> clicking it a new window open that tell me " The disk with your
> preferred destination folder is currently locked " Error 46 "
>
> Something called stuffit expander seems to be involved in some way.
>
> Any ideas on how to overcome this problem higly appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> Bo

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4a.: Program and Data Migration Question

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com ldina

Tue May 8, 2012 4:54 am (PDT)

A friend of mine has an iMac and wants to buy a new Mac. He has a cloned external backup drive, which is a mirror image of his internal drive, with OS, programs and data.

Having never done this myself, I am wondering what problems he may run into. Will the programs actually run on the new computer? I assume some or all of the purchased software will be "registered" to the old computer (using the CPU ID, motherboard, or something??).

If he has all the software serial numbers, activation codes, etc, will he be able to make all his old stuff work on the new system? How difficult? Any guidance?

Thanks,

Lou Dina

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4b.: Re: Program and Data Migration Question

Posted by: "Harold Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001

Tue May 8, 2012 5:51 am (PDT)

I've done cross-system restores using Migration Assistant and never had an issue. Of course, clean installation of the programs is a better way to go.

Harry

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On May 8, 2012, at 7:53, LouisD <lou@loudina.com> wrote:

> If he has all the software serial numbers, activation codes, etc, will he be able to make all his old stuff work on the new system? How difficult? Any guidance?

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Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop

Mon May 7, 2012 7:15 am (PDT)

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop

Mon May 7, 2012 7:18 am (PDT)

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net mstupinski

Mon May 7, 2012 8:57 am (PDT)

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com keith9600

Mon May 7, 2012 12:59 pm (PDT)

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru

Mon May 7, 2012 3:34 pm (PDT)

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Mon May 7, 2012 4:38 pm (PDT)

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru

Mon May 7, 2012 4:42 pm (PDT)

Posted by: "Cherie Beauton" apple_mac_icat@yahoo.com apple_mac_icat

Mon May 7, 2012 4:59 pm (PDT)

Posted by: "Cherie Beauton" apple_mac_icat@yahoo.com apple_mac_icat

Mon May 7, 2012 5:13 pm (PDT)

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com keith9600

Mon May 7, 2012 5:57 pm (PDT)

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger

Tue May 8, 2012 2:55 am (PDT)

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf

Tue May 8, 2012 4:15 am (PDT)

Posted by: "Jim Smith" jas1931@gmail.com jimmacsmith

Mon May 7, 2012 10:25 am (PDT)

Posted by: "Harold Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001

Mon May 7, 2012 1:33 pm (PDT)

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180

Mon May 7, 2012 11:13 am (PDT)

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com ldina

Tue May 8, 2012 4:54 am (PDT)

Posted by: "Harold Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001

Tue May 8, 2012 5:51 am (PDT)