5/12/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8896

Messages In This Digest (12 Messages)

Messages

1a.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Fri May 11, 2012 6:43 am (PDT)



Why not something like Bento then - I think it is just a lighter version of Filemaker - some people on the list recommended it to me last year when I was switching to Lion and didn't want to upgrade my Filemaker Pro. I haven't gotten it yet.

Jay

On May 11, 2012, at 5:38 AM, titnaw wrote:

> hanks Daly,
> I have numbers I just have not used it yet.
> Thanks Jurgeon but FileMaker Pro is out of my price range.
> Titnaw who plans to learn numbers
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Daly Jessup <jessup@...> wrote:
> >
> > >> On May 10, 2012, at 5:31 AM, titnaw wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Does anyone know how iData compares with numbers? Is it about the same? easier?
> > >>> Any help on this is sure appreciated
> > >>
> > >> You are proposing to use Numbers for managing your contacts?
> > >>
> > >> Daly
> >
> > Titnaw answered:
> >
> > > No I am just interested in an easy spreadsheet program
> >
> >
> > Oh, well, iData is a database program, not a spreadsheet program. For spreadsheets, you could use Numbers, Excel, or the spreadsheet component of one of the Office replacements like OpenOffice, NeoOffice, or LibreOffice.
> >
> > Daly
> >
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

1b.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Fri May 11, 2012 6:58 am (PDT)



Hello titnaw, et al...

There is another solution, too.... try the Filemaker "lite" version
called Bento.
A single user is $49 and there is a free trial., and there are versions
for iPhone and iPad (paid add ons).

Filemaker upgrades are U$179, depending on what you have... Yes, new
it's U$299.

If all you need is a spreadsheet, the choices have been posted; i just
did not think that a spreadsheet would be better than a database program
for what you wanted to do. But hey, try it out, at least you'll have
some options.

As far as Filemaker security goes, I don't see any real issues here. You
can protect your files with passwords so you can't get into them without
it; there are many security options for securing files on your Mac in
general, and when you add individual file and application level security
features on top of that, only the most serious hackers will try to
circumvent them, and then not in any hurry anyway. But we all know that
for every security measure there is at least one countermeasure...

Food for thought...

1c.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "ed-reiff" ed@reiff.com   ed-reiff

Fri May 11, 2012 7:41 am (PDT)





--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@...> wrote:
>
> Why not use FileMaker Pro? The new version 12 is just out and has free
> apps for the iPhone and iPad that allow you to view your files on the
> go. Sorry, sounds like a sales pitch, but it's not. I have used FM since
> the days of version 6.... all my contacts are there and are now at
> version 10. I can search for any fields I have defined and use the
> different layouts to print everything from form letters, invoices,
> envelopes and labels for my small business. I can even do the accounting
> from within FileMaker, so for me it really is an all-in-one app. I'll
> have to see though what the upgrade paths is. The file format for
> version 12 is a new one, and anything before is going to have to be
> updated as well. The iApps can only read the v12 format files, so are of
> no use at this point. You need Version 12 to "convert" the old files to
> the new format. Looks promising in any case.
>
> In theory you could store your files online in any of your own hosted
> server space. The files can also have a security code to access them
> with Filemaker, besides secure access to your FTP server.
>

What about Open Office, it is free and has a database component. You have nothing to loose by giving it a try.
Ed

1d.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Fri May 11, 2012 11:10 am (PDT)



Am I missing something here? The original poster, Michel, asked about managing contacts and someone else hijacks the thread to finding an easy spreadsheet or database.

Does everyone know something that I don't know? Does Michel use the pseudonym titnaw?

Michel, did you get a solution to your question?

If so which did you chose? If not, you're a better man than me, as I get aggravated when someone steals my thread before I get an answer.

Brent

On May 10, 2012, at 5:31 AM, titnaw wrote:

> Does anyone know how iData compares with numbers? Is it about the same? easier?
> Any help on this is sure appreciated
> Titnaw
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Daly Jessup <jessup@...> wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> > What about a nice Excel spreadsheet or iData database? iData has iPhone and iPad modules as well. It's awfully basic, but it is simple, fast, and it works.
> >
> > Daly
> >
> > On May 9, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Michel Munger wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Getting out of my usual lurking mode, I have a question that sounds
> > > complex to me, but that you probably will be able to help me with.
> > >
> > > What do you suggest as the best method to manage contacts?
> > >
> > > My situation:
> > >
> > > - I am a journalist. I keep contacts for more than a hundred people who
> > > have either info or expertise. I need to have their information
> > > available and rather secure.
> > >
> > > - I have a Mac, an iPhone and an iPad. I sync things with iCloud.
> > >
> > > - I am annoyed by the idea of keeping all that info stored in the
> > > standard Apple Address Book, because it mixes up professional contacts
> > > with personal ones, even when properly sorted in lists. I don't like the
> > > idea of a device getting lost and my sources becoming available to some
> > > third party.
> > >
> > > - Then, Gmail is great to store contact but I do NOT trust it for
> > > privacy. Google now is obsessed with increasing revenues, at the cost of
> > > their former "don't be evil" policy.
> > >
> > > What would be a good, reliable way to store contacts when keeping this
> > > in mind?
> > >
> > > All help will be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Michel
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Group FAQ:
> > > <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Daly Jessup
> > jessup@...
> >
>
>

1e.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "Michel Munger" michel@macsupportcentral.com   mmungermtl

Fri May 11, 2012 7:19 pm (PDT)



I have to say that I am surprised by the answers. None are about contact
managers, unless I missed something.

Michel

N.A. Nada said:
> Am I missing something here? The original poster, Michel, asked about managing contacts and someone else hijacks the thread to finding an easy spreadsheet or database.
>
> Does everyone know something that I don't know? Does Michel use the pseudonym titnaw?
>
> Michel, did you get a solution to your question?
>
> If so which did you chose? If not, you're a better man than me, as I get aggravated when someone steals my thread before I get an answer.
>
> Brent

1f.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "Hugh Crymble" hcrymble@bmts.com   hcrymble

Fri May 11, 2012 8:15 pm (PDT)



I've been using iData as a contact manager since the days of Quikdex. Silly me.

hugh

On FridayMay 11, 2012, at FriMay/11/12 10:19 PM, Michel Munger wrote:

> I have to say that I am surprised by the answers. None are about contact
> managers, unless I missed something.
>
> Michel
>
> N.A. Nada said:
>> Am I missing something here? The original poster, Michel, asked about managing contacts and someone else hijacks the thread to finding an easy spreadsheet or database.
>>
>> Does everyone know something that I don't know? Does Michel use the pseudonym titnaw?
>>
>> Michel, did you get a solution to your question?
>>
>> If so which did you chose? If not, you're a better man than me, as I get aggravated when someone steals my thread before I get an answer.
>>
>> Brent
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

1g.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Fri May 11, 2012 8:55 pm (PDT)



Did you consider a password vault software? I haven't seen one that is encrypted, and why I suggested a password vault.

It will keep the contacts secure, and most have a notes field that you can enter anything into, and you can sync it so you can't lose it.

Brent

On May 11, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Michel Munger wrote:

I have to say that I am surprised by the answers. None are about contact
managers, unless I missed something.

Michel

N.A. Nada said:
> Am I missing something here? The original poster, Michel, asked about managing contacts and someone else hijacks the thread to finding an easy spreadsheet or database.
>
> Does everyone know something that I don't know? Does Michel use the pseudonym titnaw?
>
> Michel, did you get a solution to your question?
>
> If so which did you chose? If not, you're a better man than me, as I get aggravated when someone steals my thread before I get an answer.
>
> Brent

------------------------------------

Group FAQ:
<http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>

Yahoo! Groups Links

1h.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Sat May 12, 2012 12:59 am (PDT)




On May 11, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Michel Munger wrote:

> I have to say that I am surprised by the answers. None are about
> contact
> managers, unless I missed something.

I can suggest several very nice contact managers. However, your
original request stated that you wanted to be able to sync them
between all of your iDevices. That is rather limiting.

See:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/sync-contacts-computer-ipad-iphone/

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

1i.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "titnaw" titnaw@gmail.com   titnaw

Sat May 12, 2012 5:06 am (PDT)



I am not Michael (LOL)
But I think I must have started this confusion and I am sorry.
I jumped in to find and easy Spreadsheet app. I appreciate everyone's help and I will stay with Numbers which I purchased and just have to spend time to learn it.
I do not have enough contacts to demand a list to save them in (LOL
Sorry for the confusion-
I will change the subject line the next time
I do appreciate everyone's support and help on this list. Being a long time Senior Citizen I often need help.
Titnaw

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
>
> Am I missing something here? The original poster, Michel, asked about managing contacts and someone else hijacks the thread to finding an easy spreadsheet or database.
>
> Does everyone know something that I don't know? Does Michel use the pseudonym titnaw?
>
> Michel, did you get a solution to your question?
>
> If so which did you chose? If not, you're a better man than me, as I get aggravated when someone steals my thread before I get an answer.
>
> Brent
>
> On May 10, 2012, at 5:31 AM, titnaw wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how iData compares with numbers? Is it about the same? easier?
> > Any help on this is sure appreciated
> > Titnaw
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Daly Jessup <jessup@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > > What about a nice Excel spreadsheet or iData database? iData has iPhone and iPad modules as well. It's awfully basic, but it is simple, fast, and it works.
> > >
> > > Daly
> > >
> > > On May 9, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Michel Munger wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Getting out of my usual lurking mode, I have a question that sounds
> > > > complex to me, but that you probably will be able to help me with.
> > > >
> > > > What do you suggest as the best method to manage contacts?
> > > >
> > > > My situation:
> > > >
> > > > - I am a journalist. I keep contacts for more than a hundred people who
> > > > have either info or expertise. I need to have their information
> > > > available and rather secure.
> > > >
> > > > - I have a Mac, an iPhone and an iPad. I sync things with iCloud.
> > > >
> > > > - I am annoyed by the idea of keeping all that info stored in the
> > > > standard Apple Address Book, because it mixes up professional contacts
> > > > with personal ones, even when properly sorted in lists. I don't like the
> > > > idea of a device getting lost and my sources becoming available to some
> > > > third party.
> > > >
> > > > - Then, Gmail is great to store contact but I do NOT trust it for
> > > > privacy. Google now is obsessed with increasing revenues, at the cost of
> > > > their former "don't be evil" policy.
> > > >
> > > > What would be a good, reliable way to store contacts when keeping this
> > > > in mind?
> > > >
> > > > All help will be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Michel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Group FAQ:
> > > > <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Daly Jessup
> > > jessup@
> > >
> >
> >
>

1j.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "Michel Munger" michel@macsupportcentral.com   mmungermtl

Sat May 12, 2012 5:43 am (PDT)



Oh no, I'm not saying it should automatically sync. I just described
what I have been doing, and the shortcomings.

Although potential uses on iDevices would be a bonus, simply having the
right solution to store contacts is the priority.

Michel

Randy B. Singer said:
> On May 11, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Michel Munger wrote:
>
>> I have to say that I am surprised by the answers. None are about
>> contact
>> managers, unless I missed something.
>
> I can suggest several very nice contact managers. However, your
> original request stated that you wanted to be able to sync them
> between all of your iDevices. That is rather limiting.
>
> See:
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/sync-contacts-computer-ipad-iphone/

2a.

Hard Drive Failed - Low Level Format Question

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Fri May 11, 2012 8:04 am (PDT)



Howdy.

I have an external SATA 1 TB Hitachi HD.

It has been doing intermittent errors resulting in a freeze of the
system.

It's one of 7 external HDs in a variety of enclosures. 1 FW 800, 2
eSATA docks, 4 USB 2 in a Sans Digital quad drive Multistor box.

MacPro 1st Gen, 6 GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.7.4 Lion. PCIe eSATA card. 4
internal HDs, two internal optical drives. 7 external HDs.

Generally this MacPro is extremely reliable and I've never before had
file copy / file saving / file moving problems.

For a couple of months, when saving a file from email, or when copying
a file from another HD, the questionable HD would dismount. Then it
began to dismount AND do a sort of freeze of Finder. Some applications
could still be quit.

After this behavior, the only way to recover was to do a force shut
down (power button) and then a cold boot. Force Quit wouldn't work,
Finder couldn't be restarted, Activity Monitor couldn't be used to quit
things.

I ran Disk Utility First Aid Repair Disk several times on suspect
Hitachi HD and it reported no problems or errors.

I ran TechTool Pro's several check and repair features and they
reported no problems.

A backup program (SilverKeeper) started reported an error when backing
up this HD to another HD. But it appeared to still be backing up all
the files. The error reported a problem with an invisible file. I
searched for and couldn't find the invisible file name reported in the
error.

Files could be copied from problem disk. Problem HD mounted just
fine.

I tried problem HD in bot eSATA and USB enclosures with same
intermittent problems.

Finally just gave up and replaced the HD on Wednesday with a new bare
HD and things are working normally.

Low Level Format Question.

Is it possible to do a Low Level Reformat of this problem HD?

This used to be possible in earlier versions of Mac OS X and in Mac OS
9 and earlier.

I've been checking online and seeing statements that it's not possible
to do a low level format of a SATA HD.

Is there software for Mac OS X for doing a low level format? I've
searched and can't find any software for this.

Would there be any point in trying that with the problematic Hitachi
HD?

Denver Dan

2b.

Re: Hard Drive Failed - Low Level Format Question

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Fri May 11, 2012 2:29 pm (PDT)




On May 11, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Is it possible to do a Low Level Reformat of this problem HD?
>
> This used to be possible in earlier versions of Mac OS X and in Mac OS
> 9 and earlier.
>
> I've been checking online and seeing statements that it's not possible
> to do a low level format of a SATA HD.
>
> Is there software for Mac OS X for doing a low level format? I've
> searched and can't find any software for this.

What you have read is correct. There is no longer any software
available to do a low level format for Mac hard drives.

If you really wanted to do a low level format, you could download
Unix software to do so, though.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

Recent Activity
Visit Your Group
Yahoo! Finance

It's Now Personal

Guides, news,

advice & more.

Biz Resources

Y! Small Business

Articles, tools,

forms, and more.

Ads on Yahoo!

Learn more now.

Reach customers

searching for you.

Need to Reply?

Click one of the "Reply" links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest.

Create New Topic | Visit Your Group on the Web