5/09/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8893

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Re: Program and Data Migration Question

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Tue May 8, 2012 8:51 am (PDT)



Howdy.

And the answer is: It depends.

It depends on the model of the old iMac. In turn the versions of the
software on the old iMac may not run on the new Mac.

Purchased software with a serial number can just be installed on new
Mac from the original disc sources as long as this software is
compatible with the new model.

For example, an older iMac with QuarkXPress version 7.5 means that the
user will need to upgrade to QuarkXPress ver. 9 before it will work on
a current Mac OS X 10.7 Mac system.

Is the old iMac PowerPC or Intel? If Intel there is a better chance
that applications will run on new Mac.

Is there a scanner involved? Important to check the manufacturer's web
site for current software and driver for the scanner for Mac OS X 10.7
Lion.

Documents, data, bookmarks, addresses and contacts, image files and
pictures, movies, music, will all transfer to the new Mac.

One thing to do is to create a user account on the new Mac that has the
same name as the one on the old iMac. This can reduce issues with
permissions when data is transferred to new.

Denver Dan

On Tue, 08 May 2012 11:53:58 +0000, LouisD wrote:
> A friend of mine has an iMac and wants to buy a new Mac. He has a
> cloned external backup drive, which is a mirror image of his internal
> drive, with OS, programs and data.
>
> Having never done this myself, I am wondering what problems he may
> run into. Will the programs actually run on the new computer? I
> assume some or all of the purchased software will be "registered" to
> the old computer (using the CPU ID, motherboard, or something??).
>
> If he has all the software serial numbers, activation codes, etc,
> will he be able to make all his old stuff work on the new system? How
> difficult? Any guidance?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lou Dina

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Re: Program and Data Migration Question

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com   ldina

Tue May 8, 2012 10:23 am (PDT)



Dan/Harry...

Thanks for the responses. Very encouraging, and the compatibility issues between OSX/software versions, Intel vs PowerPC, etc, all make sense to me.

I have passed this along to my buddy. He's got an iMac that is running hot and he is worried about its premature demise. I had suggested he make a backup to an external firewire drive (bootable mirror-image using SuperDuper or similar utility). I knew backing up to the original computer was no problem since I have done that. I just wasn't sure about transferring everything to a completely different Mac.

This ought to let him rest more easily (providing he has proper backup). Thanks again.

Lou

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Re: Program and Data Migration Question

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Tue May 8, 2012 12:26 pm (PDT)



Having back up or a clone is never a bad idea, but running hot is not and indication of a premature demise, unless you don't take action to cool it down.

Investigate why it is heating up. Clean it out with compressed air. He may have to open it up to do a through job of it, because it is hard to clean out the fans. Depending on where it is, moving it might help some.

It is a heck of a lot cheaper to clean it, than to replace it.

Brent

On May 8, 2012, at 10:23 AM, LouisD wrote:

> I have passed this along to my buddy. He's got an iMac that is running hot and he is worried about its premature demise. I had suggested he make a backup to an external firewire drive (bootable mirror-image using SuperDuper or similar utility).

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Re: Program and Data Migration Question

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Tue May 8, 2012 12:33 pm (PDT)



I went back are re-read the original post. If he is buying a new Mac, for reasons other than it is running hot, then ignore the below reply. At that point he needs to look at the compatibility of his software with the Mac he is looking at.

If he has had the old iMac long enough for it to now run hot, then it is may be old enough that some of his software will have to be replaced, and he needs to factor that into the buying decision. If some of the software needs replacing then things like scanners and printers may also need to be updated, since their software may also not work. Although there are some 3rd party software that will make those accessories work in Lion.

Brent

On May 8, 2012, at 12:26 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> Having back up or a clone is never a bad idea, but running hot is not and indication of a premature demise, unless you don't take action to cool it down.
>
> Investigate why it is heating up. Clean it out with compressed air. He may have to open it up to do a through job of it, because it is hard to clean out the fans. Depending on where it is, moving it might help some.
>
> It is a heck of a lot cheaper to clean it, than to replace it.
>
> Brent

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Re: Program and Data Migration Question

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com   ldina

Wed May 9, 2012 6:03 am (PDT)



Thanks, Brent.

I have passed your thoughts along to my friend. He lives near Bangkok, Thailand and it gets pretty hot there. He does run a separate fan at times to blow more air over his iMac in an effort to keep it cooler. I don't think he has had any problems so far, but he has read that iMacs can run hot and potentially fry if run too hot for extended periods.

The perhaps primary reason he's thinking of buying a new Mac is fear of the current unit failing. (he's strapped for cash, so he doesn't really want to spend the money). That is why I suggested to him that he get a great backup scheme, and IF HIS iMAC FAILS, then spend the money on a new computer. That prompted my original query on restoring from one computer to another using Migration Assistant.

I appreciate the feedback.

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
>
> I went back are re-read the original post. If he is buying a new Mac, for reasons other than it is running hot, then ignore the below reply. At that point he needs to look at the compatibility of his software with the Mac he is looking at.
>
> If he has had the old iMac long enough for it to now run hot, then it is may be old enough that some of his software will have to be replaced, and he needs to factor that into the buying decision. If some of the software needs replacing then things like scanners and printers may also need to be updated, since their software may also not work. Although there are some 3rd party software that will make those accessories work in Lion.
>
> Brent
>
> On May 8, 2012, at 12:26 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> > Having back up or a clone is never a bad idea, but running hot is not and indication of a premature demise, unless you don't take action to cool it down.
> >
> > Investigate why it is heating up. Clean it out with compressed air. He may have to open it up to do a through job of it, because it is hard to clean out the fans. Depending on where it is, moving it might help some.
> >
> > It is a heck of a lot cheaper to clean it, than to replace it.
> >
> > Brent
>

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2.1.

Re: Old & Obsolete Software

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Tue May 8, 2012 10:35 am (PDT)



Randy B. Singer wrote:
> There are lots of groups that would be interested in the donation.
> They send such thing to impoverished communities, or overseas to
> impoverished countries.
>
> Freecycle
> http://www.freecycle.org
>
> Computers for Kids
> http://www.c4konline.org/
> http://www.cfkidaho.org/
> http://www.computers4kids.net/
>
> Geeks Without Borders
> http://www.geekswithoutborders.org/
>
> Gifts In Kind
> http://www.giftsinkind.org
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer

Thanks, Randy. I'll definitely keep that in mind, in case of future needs...

keith

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Re: DVD Movie to iTunes

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Tue May 8, 2012 2:22 pm (PDT)



Aha, I don't need handbrake. I can copy a disk to my hard drive and then play it using DVD Player. Works well. So I can put all my disks on my computer now.
 Terry Pogue 

My Foodie Photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/terrypogue/collections/

On May 6, 2012, at 11:57 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> Handbrake is a great free app for this as well as file conversion.
>
> Handbrake.fr
>
> Harry
>
> Sent from Harry's iPod !
>
> On May 6, 2012, at 18:54, Jim Smith <jas1931@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How do you copy a DVD movie to iTunes and what application do I need.
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Re: DVD Movie to iTunes

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Tue May 8, 2012 3:51 pm (PDT)



I'm surprised you can copy commercial DVDs like that, but how much space
will it take? DVDs are about 2 GB/hour.

Otto

On 8 May 2012 22:22, Terry Pogue <tpogue@comcast.net> wrote:

> Aha, I don't need handbrake. I can copy a disk to my hard drive and then
> play it using DVD Player. Works well. So I can put all my disks on my
> computer now.
>

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Re: DVD Movie to iTunes

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Tue May 8, 2012 5:22 pm (PDT)



On 5/8/2012 5:22 PM, Terry Pogue wrote:
> Aha, I don't need handbrake. I can copy a disk to my hard drive and then play it using DVD Player. Works well. So I can put all my disks on my computer now.
>
Try a protected DVD. That's why outfits sell full dvd rippers. Those
will copy to a hard drive and remove the protection in one fell swoop as
a disc image file usually, .iso.

There is NO copying many, many commercial dvd's without such a utility.
Even Toast will not do it.

Harry

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