5/16/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8901

Messages In This Digest (15 Messages)

1a.
Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD? From: John E Bastin
1b.
Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD? From: N.A. Nada
2a.
LaCie Now has eSATA to Thunderbolt Converter From: Denver Dan
2b.
Re: LaCie Now has eSATA to Thunderbolt Converter From: Bill B.
3a.
Oversized display From: Les Streater
3b.
Re: Oversized display From: N.A. Nada
3c.
Re: Oversized display From: Les Streater
3d.
Re: Oversized display From: Otto Nikolaus
3e.
Re: Oversized display From: Barry Austern
3f.
Re: Oversized display From: Anna Larson
3g.
Re: Oversized display From: Louie P. (Pete) Nalda
3h.
Re: Oversized display From: Les Streater
4a.
Re: Hard Drive Failed - Low Level Format Question From: Tod Hopkins
5.
Unable to empty trash From: Roger Harris
6.1.
Re: Best solution to manage contacts? From: Tod Hopkins

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1a.

Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD?

Posted by: "John E Bastin" jbastin1@me.com   jbastin0001

Tue May 15, 2012 11:14 am (PDT)




On May 15, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Harold Flaxman wrote:

> There is an app out there that will create a bootable thumb drive, or dvd drive as an install medium. The down side is that you must own a copy of Lion to begin with. If you've lost that, it should be easy to re-attain one. I've used a 4gb thumb drive, installed a new hard drive, and booted from the thumb drive and selected an install there. No internet needed. The original Lion insall_esd (I think that's the name), is needed.

Not exactly. If you have, as a source, a hard drive with Lion installed, you can use Lion Recovery Disk Assistant from Apple

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1433?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

to create an external Lion recovery disk that will install Lion on any hard drive that is in a computer that supports Lion. I have my external Recovery HD installed on a 1GB partition of a 4GB flash drive. You don't need the almost-4GB Install_ESD file.

Hope this helps.

John Bastin
bastinj@gmail.com

MacBook Pro 2.8GHz (17-inch)
8 GB RAM
500GB Seagate Hybrid HDD
Mac OS X 10.7.4

iPad 2 WiFi 64GB
iOS 5.1

1b.

Re: How to install Lion onto a blank HD?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Tue May 15, 2012 11:31 am (PDT)



Dane,

sounds like you have the easy part done, now trying to reconstruct all her docs will be the hard part since TM failed.

Brent
2a.

LaCie Now has eSATA to Thunderbolt Converter

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Tue May 15, 2012 1:20 pm (PDT)



Howdy.

I just saw a LaCie eSATA to Thunderbolt converter box on sale. $199.00
USD.

Denver Dan

2b.

Re: LaCie Now has eSATA to Thunderbolt Converter

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Wed May 16, 2012 5:44 am (PDT)



At 4:19 PM -0400 5/15/12, Denver Dan wrote:
>I just saw a LaCie eSATA to Thunderbolt converter box on sale. $199.00
>USD.

Just curious Dan. How do eSATA and Thunderbold throughput speeds compare?

Bill

3a.

Oversized display

Posted by: "Les Streater" lesstreater@marpubs.demon.co.uk   linernutuk

Tue May 15, 2012 3:25 pm (PDT)



Not sure what I just did, but caught an odd key combination and suddenly my screen is oversized!

Dock has disappeared off to the side and all desktop icons have realigened to one side.

I know this is a simple reset but at this time of night I can't remember - anyone recall how to reset display please????

Les Streater
www.lesstreater.com

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3b.

Re: Oversized display

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Tue May 15, 2012 3:45 pm (PDT)



Wow! That sounds like either the cat was dancing on your keyboard or you have a third party app on the Mac.

Oversized would be System Prefs > Universal Access.

If you don't normally keep the Dock on the side, them it would be System Prefs > Dock > position. Hidden is one of the check boxes below that.

Desktop icons realigned control + click the desktop for the contextual menu.

That is why I said it sounds like the the cat was tap dancing.

Brent

On May 15, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Les Streater wrote:

Not sure what I just did, but caught an odd key combination and suddenly my screen is oversized!

Dock has disappeared off to the side and all desktop icons have realigened to one side.

I know this is a simple reset but at this time of night I can't remember - anyone recall how to reset display please????

Les Streater
www.lesstreater.com

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3c.

Re: Oversized display

Posted by: "Les Streater" lesstreater@marpubs.demon.co.uk   linernutuk

Tue May 15, 2012 4:01 pm (PDT)



Thanks for the thoughts, but the cat is fast asleep, it was my clumsy fingers!

It's not Universal Access, that does nothing. And I like to see the dock, it's never hidden.

Its as if the whole screen display suddenly grew by an inch all round

I'll try a restart next, see if it reverts to normal

I'm sure it's a key combination needed.

Cheers

Les

On 15 May 2012, at 23:45, N.A. Nada wrote:

Wow! That sounds like either the cat was dancing on your keyboard or you have a third party app on the Mac.

Oversized would be System Prefs > Universal Access.

If you don't normally keep the Dock on the side, them it would be System Prefs > Dock > position. Hidden is one of the check boxes below that.

Desktop icons realigned control + click the desktop for the contextual menu.

That is why I said it sounds like the the cat was tap dancing.

Brent

On May 15, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Les Streater wrote:

Not sure what I just did, but caught an odd key combination and suddenly my screen is oversized!

Dock has disappeared off to the side and all desktop icons have realigened to one side.

I know this is a simple reset but at this time of night I can't remember - anyone recall how to reset display please????

Les Streater
www.lesstreater.com

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3d.

Re: Oversized display

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Tue May 15, 2012 4:34 pm (PDT)



Try Option Command Minus

(Option is 'alt' on a UK Mac keyboard. Does anyone know why?)

Otto

On 16 May 2012 00:01, Les Streater <lesstreater@marpubs.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughts, but the cat is fast asleep, it was my clumsy
> fingers!
>
> It's not Universal Access, that does nothing. And I like to see the dock,
> it's never hidden.
>
> Its as if the whole screen display suddenly grew by an inch all round
>
> I'll try a restart next, see if it reverts to normal
>
>
> I'm sure it's a key combination needed.
>

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3e.

Re: Oversized display

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Tue May 15, 2012 5:09 pm (PDT)



At 12:34 AM +0100 5/16/12, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

>
>
>Try Option Command Minus
>
>(Option is 'alt' on a UK Mac keyboard. Does anyone know why?)
>
>Otto

My US full-size aluminum keyboard has both. But it does not have the
open apple anymore on the command key, only the "clover" symbol.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

3f.

Re: Oversized display

Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de   yovard@ymail.com

Tue May 15, 2012 5:26 pm (PDT)




On 16.05.2012, at 00:25, Les Streater wrote:

> Not sure what I just did, but caught an odd key combination and suddenly my screen is oversized!

You have activated the zoom function. Go to System Preferences > Universal Access > Seeing
and use the key combination given there to zoom out. Then you should better turn the zoom function off all together: Click on the Off button; see screen shot no. 1 here:

http://minus.com/mgFNAP1aX/

If you want to zoom in later then use the scroll wheel while holding the control key instead; that is much easier. You have a few options here. Go to System Preferences > Mouse. See screen shot no. 2 here:

http://minus.com/mgFNAP1aX/2f

Anna

3g.

Re: Oversized display

Posted by: "Louie P. (Pete) Nalda" lpnalda@gmail.com   lpnalda

Tue May 15, 2012 6:13 pm (PDT)



Have you tried just holding the control key and scrolling down? If somehow you held control and scrolled up, this does zooming as well, regardless if Zoom is turned on in Universal access.

On May 15, 2012, at 6:01 PM, Les Streater wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughts, but the cat is fast asleep, it was my clumsy fingers!
>
> It's not Universal Access, that does nothing. And I like to see the dock, it's never hidden.
>
> Its as if the whole screen display suddenly grew by an inch all round
>
> I'll try a restart next, see if it reverts to normal
>
>
> I'm sure it's a key combination needed.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
> On 15 May 2012, at 23:45, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> Wow! That sounds like either the cat was dancing on your keyboard or you have a third party app on the Mac.
>
> Oversized would be System Prefs > Universal Access.
>
> If you don't normally keep the Dock on the side, them it would be System Prefs > Dock > position. Hidden is one of the check boxes below that.
>
> Desktop icons realigned control + click the desktop for the contextual menu.
>
> That is why I said it sounds like the the cat was tap dancing.
>
> Brent
>
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> On May 15, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Les Streater wrote:
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> Not sure what I just did, but caught an odd key combination and suddenly my screen is oversized!
>
> Dock has disappeared off to the side and all desktop icons have realigened to one side.
>
> I know this is a simple reset but at this time of night I can't remember - anyone recall how to reset display please????
>
> Les Streater
> www.lesstreater.com
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3h.

Re: Oversized display

Posted by: "Les Streater" lesstreater@marpubs.demon.co.uk   linernutuk

Wed May 16, 2012 3:00 am (PDT)



Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions.

Things got even weirder last night, at one point all desktop icons just disappeared!

I don't think it was Universal Access as everything there was turned off, although I hadn't realised that even with it all off screen zooming was still possible. I guess this is probably what happened - I must have caught the control key as I was using the magic mouse and it then got confused . . . .

Anyway, in the end I did a total close down last night, left it for 8 hours and when I restarted the screen was normal, all I had to do was move desktop icons around.

Thanks again

On 16 May 2012, at 02:13, Louie P. (Pete) Nalda wrote:

Have you tried just holding the control key and scrolling down? If somehow you held control and scrolled up, this does zooming as well, regardless if Zoom is turned on in Universal access.

Les Streater
www.lesstreater.com

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4a.

Re: Hard Drive Failed - Low Level Format Question

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed May 16, 2012 6:37 am (PDT)



That was worth reading. Simple and clear.

tod

On May 12, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I suspect you don't really want to do a low level format. Most likely you would anyway find it impossible to do since the disk in question is I guess far to new. Take a look at something like
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_formatting
>
> If you still want to try reinitialising your disk, you should find the command line utility 'dd' available on your system (it is here, OSX 10.7)∑
>
> Chris
>
> On 12 May 2012, at 4:01pm, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Thanks for the confirmation of this low level format business.
>>
>> I wonder, however, if there might be an easier to use X11 low level
>> format app out there somewhere?
>>
>> I've only used X11 applications two or three times so don't have ready
>> knowledge about where to search for them.
>>
>> Denver Dan
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 11 May 2012 14:29:17 -0700, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 11, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it possible to do a Low Level Reformat of this problem HD?
>>>>
>>>> This used to be possible in earlier versions of Mac OS X and in Mac OS
>>>> 9 and earlier.
>>>>
>>>> I've been checking online and seeing statements that it's not possible
>>>> to do a low level format of a SATA HD.
>>>>
>>>> Is there software for Mac OS X for doing a low level format? I've
>>>> searched and can't find any software for this.
>>>
>>> What you have read is correct. There is no longer any software
>>> available to do a low level format for Mac hard drives.
>>>
>>> If you really wanted to do a low level format, you could download
>>> Unix software to do so, though.
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________
>>> Randy B. Singer
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5.

Unable to empty trash

Posted by: "Roger Harris" skunktown@gmail.com   robo_booger

Wed May 16, 2012 6:42 am (PDT)



I tried to fire up my VMWare Fusion (for the one lone program that I need to use 1/month) yesterday and got all sorts of error messages. Rebooted - no help. Went to their website and they suggest reinstalling. As part of the reinstall process, one must empty the trash.

When I tried to empty it (not a lot of items), it took an inordinate amount of time and appeared to be hung up. So I clicked on the "x" and stopped it. Then it got hung up "stopping" - or so it seemed. Perhaps I was impatient. At any rate, I force quit finder and rebooted. Now when I try to empty trash, I get a horizontal blue barber pole, rather than the horizontal bar that fills in slowly. Same thing - it appears to be hung up and then hangs up stopping also.

So... can I do this through the terminal? If so - a little help? I'm not too terminal savvy.

Thanks so much, Roger

Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz

6.1.

Re: Best solution to manage contacts?

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed May 16, 2012 6:42 am (PDT)



Another way of hijacking a thread is by changing the topic of discussion without changing the subject or thread. 8O

Cheers,
tod

On May 13, 2012, at 11:53 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

>
> On May 13, 2012, at 3:49 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
> Thanks, Randy. There are various ways of doing this, and some depend on
> which email client or webmail you are using, but the crucial factor is not
> to simply reply and change the Subject Line.
>
> Otto
>
> Exactly!!!! That is what causes the problems with threads and the No Sender, No Subject emails on iDevices.
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com

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