5/28/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8917

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: Denver dan
1b.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: fussyoldfart
1c.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: James Robertson
1d.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: fussyoldfart
1e.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: Roger Harris
1f.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: James Robertson
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Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: James Robertson
1h.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: Robert Buscaglia
1i.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: Jim Hamm
1j.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: Roger Harris
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Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: Jim Saklad
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1a.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Mon May 28, 2012 6:07 am (PDT)



Walk in to your nearest ATT store and ask about getting temporary travelers international cell roaming and data plans.

I have friends in San Diego who just did that for their AT&T iPhones for a trip yo France and Holland. They used the temp plans for calling and GPS maps and data.

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iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone

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On May 28, 2012, at 8:57 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net> wrote:

> My wife and I are traveling to France from the US in August. We'll have a very busy schedule for our 3 days in Paris, and then we'll be in very rural parts of Normandy and Brittany for the next week before returning to Paris for one more night. We have an ATT iPad2 now and may add a "3rd generation" iPad before we travel. We also have ATT iPhone 4ses, but we know they're locked to ATT's US network, and that ATT will not unlock them.
>
> I've Googled this until I'm google-eyed, read many things about trying to get cellular data connectivity in France, and found that many posters are obviously uninformed, e.g., "there's no Micro-SIM slot in the ATT iPad2." (I'm looking at my MicroSIM card right now). Other untruths include "WiFi is everywhere; you won't need cellular data."
>
> However, I've read pretty consistently that it's quite difficult for travelers from the US to obtain a Micro SIM for iPad cellular data connections once they get to France, claiming that a French residence address, French bank account, and/or French-issued credit card is/are necessary to obtain a micro-SIM card in France. Is that really true?
>
> I've found one company, "LeFrenchMobile" <http://www.lefrenchmobile.com/en/contact-us.html> that offers to sell me a card now (I think), but the site is a bit vague about replenishing the card, avoiding continuing billing once we return home, etc.
>
> I have a SafariBooksOnline account (great resource, by the way), but clicking through tables of contents in most of the books on the iPad I, don't find this covered at all other than generic advice such as "get a local micro SIM card when you travel outside the US."
>
> Can anyone share personal experience or knowledge on what we can do now to help make our trip this summer digitally painless?
>
> Assuming there's a "happy" answer to our question, I'll be back with questions about using Skype or Google Voice to make "phone" calls back to the US while we're overseas.
>
> Thanks so much,
>
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1b.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart@gmail.com   fussyoldfart

Mon May 28, 2012 6:17 am (PDT)





We too, my wife and I, will be travelling this summer but in the UK. We plan to buy a prepaid SIM, like getting a prepaid phone, for the few weeks we'll be there. Our carrier here in Canada has no plan that will allow us to use the iPad over there. Your inquiry has me a little concerned as I had just assumed such a thing would be easily done. I will now have to do some research.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@...> wrote:
>
> My wife and I are traveling to France from the US in August. We'll have a very busy schedule for our 3 days in Paris, and then we'll be in very rural parts of Normandy and Brittany for the next week before returning to Paris for one more night. We have an ATT iPad2 now and may add a "3rd generation" iPad before we travel. We also have ATT iPhone 4ses, but we know they're locked to ATT's US network, and that ATT will not unlock them.
>
> I've Googled this until I'm google-eyed, read many things about trying to get cellular data connectivity in France, and found that many posters are obviously uninformed, e.g., "there's no Micro-SIM slot in the ATT iPad2." (I'm looking at my MicroSIM card right now). Other untruths include "WiFi is everywhere; you won't need cellular data."
>
> However, I've read pretty consistently that it's quite difficult for travelers from the US to obtain a Micro SIM for iPad cellular data connections once they get to France, claiming that a French residence address, French bank account, and/or French-issued credit card is/are necessary to obtain a micro-SIM card in France. Is that really true?
>
> I've found one company, "LeFrenchMobile" <http://www.lefrenchmobile.com/en/contact-us.html> that offers to sell me a card now (I think), but the site is a bit vague about replenishing the card, avoiding continuing billing once we return home, etc.
>
> I have a SafariBooksOnline account (great resource, by the way), but clicking through tables of contents in most of the books on the iPad I, don't find this covered at all other than generic advice such as "get a local micro SIM card when you travel outside the US."
>
> Can anyone share personal experience or knowledge on what we can do now to help make our trip this summer digitally painless?
>
> Assuming there's a "happy" answer to our question, I'll be back with questions about using Skype or Google Voice to make "phone" calls back to the US while we're overseas.
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,_
> (*)/ (*)
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

1c.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Mon May 28, 2012 7:05 am (PDT)




On May 28, 2012, at 6:17 AM, fussyoldfart wrote:

> Our carrier here in Canada has no plan that will allow us to use the iPad over there. Your inquiry has me a little concerned as I had just assumed such a thing would be easily done. I will now have to do some research.

My Googling informed me that it was quite easy to puchase a micro-SIM in the UK, similarly painless in Italy, but suggested that the situation in France was extraordinarily difficult (French address, French credit card, or both, required to purchase a local SIM at an Orange-France or SFR retail outlet.

As for Denver Dan's suggestion, what I've read is that ATT's international data plan gets very expensive VERY quickly. I'll look into it, but I don't think it's the prudent thing to do.

--
Jim Robertson

Mac Pro (Early 2008, Dual 2.8 Quad Core Xeons, 6 GB RAM
OS X 10.7.4)
MacBook Pro (15 inch Early 2011, 2 Ghz Intel Quad Core i7, 8 GB RAM
OS X 10.7.4)
iPad2 (16 GB ATT
iOS 5.1.1)
iPhone 4s (16 GB ATT
iOS 5.1.1)

1d.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "fussyoldfart" fussyoldfart@gmail.com   fussyoldfart

Mon May 28, 2012 7:06 am (PDT)



OK, I did a little searching and shopping and this looks like a good solution.

http://www.brightroam.com/France-SIM-Card-P28C0.aspx

Darrell McDonald

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@...> wrote:
>
> My wife and I are traveling to France from the US in August. We'll have a very busy schedule for our 3 days in Paris, and then we'll be in very rural parts of Normandy and Brittany for the next week before returning to Paris for one more night. We have an ATT iPad2 now and may add a "3rd generation" iPad before we travel. We also have ATT iPhone 4ses, but we know they're locked to ATT's US network, and that ATT will not unlock them.
>
> I've Googled this until I'm google-eyed, read many things about trying to get cellular data connectivity in France, and found that many posters are obviously uninformed, e.g., "there's no Micro-SIM slot in the ATT iPad2." (I'm looking at my MicroSIM card right now). Other untruths include "WiFi is everywhere; you won't need cellular data."
>
> However, I've read pretty consistently that it's quite difficult for travelers from the US to obtain a Micro SIM for iPad cellular data connections once they get to France, claiming that a French residence address, French bank account, and/or French-issued credit card is/are necessary to obtain a micro-SIM card in France. Is that really true?
>
> I've found one company, "LeFrenchMobile" <http://www.lefrenchmobile.com/en/contact-us.html> that offers to sell me a card now (I think), but the site is a bit vague about replenishing the card, avoiding continuing billing once we return home, etc.
>
> I have a SafariBooksOnline account (great resource, by the way), but clicking through tables of contents in most of the books on the iPad I, don't find this covered at all other than generic advice such as "get a local micro SIM card when you travel outside the US."
>
> Can anyone share personal experience or knowledge on what we can do now to help make our trip this summer digitally painless?
>
> Assuming there's a "happy" answer to our question, I'll be back with questions about using Skype or Google Voice to make "phone" calls back to the US while we're overseas.
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,_
> (*)/ (*)
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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1e.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "Roger Harris" skunktown@gmail.com   robo_booger

Mon May 28, 2012 7:14 am (PDT)



Hi Jim,

I travel to Paris frequently for work. About a year ago, with my new ATT iPad2 in tow, I went to an SFR store in Paris and inquired about this very matter. I bought (for about 17E) a micro-SIM card that included a set number of MB of use. I can't remember how many MB it was - but not a lot. Basically enough to use the thing for three of four days. You will need your passport to buy the SIM card, but that's all.

After that period, I was able to replenish the SIM card by buying a replenishment code at the SFR store. Same deal, but a few Euro less. The replenishment code can be activated by telephone. You call a certain number, they ask you what device you want to work with, you enter the "phone number" of your SIM card, and finally you enter the replenishment code. (This is all done in French. The first couple times I asked somebody to do it for me and then I got brave and did it myself. My French is so-so.) Not sure how your French is, but my experience is that the English proficiency at these SFR stores is pretty spotty. In order to activate the replenishment code online with your iPad, you need an SFR account and in order to have an SFR account, you need a French bank account.

Anyway, it has worked fine for me. But I must tell you that I haven't replenished in a while and recently have been relying more on WiFi. I use Boingo Mobile fairly successfully. They have a deal, where you can use two mobile devices (not laptops) for $7.95/month. There is a Boingo hotspot at the hotel where I stay and it works like a champ.

Like any major city, there are tons of WiFi hotspots but most are password-protected. At restaurants and bars, you just need to ask for the password - no big deal. But here's something else that very few foreigners know about: There is free WiFi in all public parks in Paris. Even teeny little parks.

Do a search for some of these things and see what you find. Sorry my info does not apply to your other French destinations, but some of this may help in Paris.

Roger

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@...> wrote:
>
> My wife and I are traveling to France from the US in August. We'll have a very busy schedule for our 3 days in Paris, and then we'll be in very rural parts of Normandy and Brittany for the next week before returning to Paris for one more night. We have an ATT iPad2 now and may add a "3rd generation" iPad before we travel. We also have ATT iPhone 4ses, but we know they're locked to ATT's US network, and that ATT will not unlock them.
>
> I've Googled this until I'm google-eyed, read many things about trying to get cellular data connectivity in France, and found that many posters are obviously uninformed, e.g., "there's no Micro-SIM slot in the ATT iPad2." (I'm looking at my MicroSIM card right now). Other untruths include "WiFi is everywhere; you won't need cellular data."
>
> However, I've read pretty consistently that it's quite difficult for travelers from the US to obtain a Micro SIM for iPad cellular data connections once they get to France, claiming that a French residence address, French bank account, and/or French-issued credit card is/are necessary to obtain a micro-SIM card in France. Is that really true?
>
> I've found one company, "LeFrenchMobile" <http://www.lefrenchmobile.com/en/contact-us.html> that offers to sell me a card now (I think), but the site is a bit vague about replenishing the card, avoiding continuing billing once we return home, etc.
>
> I have a SafariBooksOnline account (great resource, by the way), but clicking through tables of contents in most of the books on the iPad I, don't find this covered at all other than generic advice such as "get a local micro SIM card when you travel outside the US."
>
> Can anyone share personal experience or knowledge on what we can do now to help make our trip this summer digitally painless?
>
> Assuming there's a "happy" answer to our question, I'll be back with questions about using Skype or Google Voice to make "phone" calls back to the US while we're overseas.
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,_
> (*)/ (*)
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

1f.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Mon May 28, 2012 7:31 am (PDT)




On May 28, 2012, at 7:06 AM, fussyoldfart wrote:

> OK, I did a little searching and shopping and this looks like a good solution.

Might be, but I'd need to be careful:

Billing starts the day I order the card (need to order as close to departure from US as possible, but not so late that it arrives after we leave :-(
Data billing continues after I use up the prepaid amount, at $0.60/MB (so, if my wife gets bored and orders an HD movie from the iTunes store and it's 2 GB, that would be $1,200.00? Is that for real?
Shipping the card to the US is $15 ground. Does than mean by James Cameron's submersible? (I've been told more ridiculous things: last year, when everyone's least favorite airline "updated" my daughter's Las Vegas to Kona "itinerary" to one where the change of planes in San Francisco morphed to one where the inbound from Las Vegas landed after their flight to Kona departed, their "last best" suggestion involved flying to Maui, then renting a car to "drive" to Kona).

The scary possible cost of data usage is real. Last month someone responded to one of my messages with a sorry tale about taking his iPhone off "Airplane Mode" on landing at Heathrow, realizing what he'd done 8 hours later, then getting a bill for $800 for those 8 hours from ATT the next month.

Jim Robertson

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Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Mon May 28, 2012 7:39 am (PDT)




On May 28, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Roger Harris wrote:

> Like any major city, there are tons of WiFi hotspots but most are password-protected. At restaurants and bars, you just need to ask for the password - no big deal. But here's something else that very few foreigners know about: There is free WiFi in all public parks in Paris. Even teeny little parks.

Thanks, Roger. That's very helpful.

Bottom line:
I can purchase a micro-SIM card at a retail outlet in France without a French residence address, French bank account, or French-issued credit card.
I probably cannot replenish it without such credentials, so I should make certain I use enough data.
I should keep "cellular data" turned off and scour for WiFi hotspots as much as possible.

I think my French (if I start brushing up 3 months ago) would be adequate to make the purchase in French. Of course, I haven't been there for 6 years, so it's pretty rusty. Little anecdote: back when Lance Armstrong's goal in life involved spending a third of his life living in France for 7 years running, he ALWAYS responded in English whenever interviewed in French. Many of the French thought him arrogant, but his stated reason was that he always wanted to be certain he didn't say something unintended by real-time mental translation for each response he'd attempt in French.

Jim Robertson
1h.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "Robert Buscaglia" rbuscag@yahoo.com   rbuscag

Mon May 28, 2012 8:00 am (PDT)



Will you be on your own or with a group? If with a group, do you really need to be connected or just enjoy the experience?

Bob

Sent from my iPad

On May 28, 2012, at 7:57 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net> wrote:

> My wife and I are traveling to France from the US in August. We'll have a very busy schedule for our 3 days in Paris, and then we'll be in very rural parts of Normandy and Brittany for the next week before returning to Paris for one more night. We have an ATT iPad2 now and may add a "3rd generation" iPad before we travel. We also have ATT iPhone 4ses, but we know they're locked to ATT's US network, and that ATT will not unlock them.
>
> I've Googled this until I'm google-eyed, read many things about trying to get cellular data connectivity in France, and found that many posters are obviously uninformed, e.g., "there's no Micro-SIM slot in the ATT iPad2." (I'm looking at my MicroSIM card right now). Other untruths include "WiFi is everywhere; you won't need cellular data."
>
> However, I've read pretty consistently that it's quite difficult for travelers from the US to obtain a Micro SIM for iPad cellular data connections once they get to France, claiming that a French residence address, French bank account, and/or French-issued credit card is/are necessary to obtain a micro-SIM card in France. Is that really true?
>
> I've found one company, "LeFrenchMobile" <http://www.lefrenchmobile.com/en/contact-us.html> that offers to sell me a card now (I think), but the site is a bit vague about replenishing the card, avoiding continuing billing once we return home, etc.
>
> I have a SafariBooksOnline account (great resource, by the way), but clicking through tables of contents in most of the books on the iPad I, don't find this covered at all other than generic advice such as "get a local micro SIM card when you travel outside the US."
>
> Can anyone share personal experience or knowledge on what we can do now to help make our trip this summer digitally painless?
>
> Assuming there's a "happy" answer to our question, I'll be back with questions about using Skype or Google Voice to make "phone" calls back to the US while we're overseas.
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
> __o
> _-\<,_
> (*)/ (*)
> ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````
> My other car is an S-Works Roubaix
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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1i.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "Jim Hamm" machamm@gmail.com   jimhamm90

Mon May 28, 2012 8:02 am (PDT)



James, in addition to the other advice offered here, another option is to
purchase credits on Skype and you can then use Skype to call people around
the world on their phone. This is useful for friends that don't have Skype
installed. Of course, you can use Skype to call friends/family that have
Skype installed and not use any of your phone minutes.

Also, if you use AT&T, I'd call their office and ask about a SIM card for
France, see what they say, and about the cost.

Last year we spent a month on two river ships, cruising from Normandy to
Nice, with several days spent in Paris. We didn't purchase a SIM card, but
relied on wifi, which worked well for us. Have a safe and fun trip....Jim

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 6:39 AM, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> On May 28, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Roger Harris wrote:
>
> > Like any major city, there are tons of WiFi hotspots but most are
> password-protected. At restaurants and bars, you just need to ask for the
> password - no big deal. But here's something else that very few foreigners
> know about: There is free WiFi in all public parks in Paris. Even teeny
> little parks.
>
> Thanks, Roger. That's very helpful.
>
> Bottom line:
> I can purchase a micro-SIM card at a retail outlet in France without a
> French residence address, French bank account, or French-issued credit card.
> I probably cannot replenish it without such credentials, so I should make
> certain I use enough data.
> I should keep "cellular data" turned off and scour for WiFi hotspots as
> much as possible.
>
> I think my French (if I start brushing up 3 months ago) would be adequate
> to make the purchase in French. Of course, I haven't been there for 6
> years, so it's pretty rusty. Little anecdote: back when Lance Armstrong's
> goal in life involved spending a third of his life living in France for 7
> years running, he ALWAYS responded in English whenever interviewed in
> French. Many of the French thought him arrogant, but his stated reason was
> that he always wanted to be certain he didn't say something unintended by
> real-time mental translation for each response he'd attempt in French.
>
> Jim Robertson
>
>
>

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1j.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "Roger Harris" skunktown@gmail.com   robo_booger

Mon May 28, 2012 8:12 am (PDT)



Jim,

You said: "I probably cannot replenish it without such credentials, so I should make
certain I use enough data."

That was not my experience. As I mentioned, it could be replenished over the phone without any special credentials.

And, as mentioned by other posters, you can use Skype w/wifi to call any telephone for a small fee. There are a lot of other similar apps that do the same thing. I use one called MobileVoip, which works quite well too for wifi calls.

Good luck, Roger

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@...> wrote:
>
>
> On May 28, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Roger Harris wrote:
>
> > Like any major city, there are tons of WiFi hotspots but most are password-protected. At restaurants and bars, you just need to ask for the password - no big deal. But here's something else that very few foreigners know about: There is free WiFi in all public parks in Paris. Even teeny little parks.
>
> Thanks, Roger. That's very helpful.
>
> Bottom line:
> I can purchase a micro-SIM card at a retail outlet in France without a French residence address, French bank account, or French-issued credit card.
> I probably cannot replenish it without such credentials, so I should make certain I use enough data.
> I should keep "cellular data" turned off and scour for WiFi hotspots as much as possible.
>
> I think my French (if I start brushing up 3 months ago) would be adequate to make the purchase in French. Of course, I haven't been there for 6 years, so it's pretty rusty. Little anecdote: back when Lance Armstrong's goal in life involved spending a third of his life living in France for 7 years running, he ALWAYS responded in English whenever interviewed in French. Many of the French thought him arrogant, but his stated reason was that he always wanted to be certain he didn't say something unintended by real-time mental translation for each response he'd attempt in French.
>
> Jim Robertson
>

1k.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon May 28, 2012 10:54 am (PDT)



> James, in addition to the other advice offered here, another option is to purchase credits on Skype and you can then use Skype to call people around the world on their phone. This is useful for friends that don't have Skype installed. Of course, you can use Skype to call friends/family that have Skype installed and not use any of your phone minutes.

Always presuming you have a Wifi connection when you want to call.

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Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Mon May 28, 2012 6:58 am (PDT)




On May 27, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Kitty wrote:

> No need to start talking down to and treating me badly because I'm having a hard time figuring out a simpler way to enlarge the thumbnails. I never said I was trying to enlarge them from my email, tho it would certainly be a good thing if one could.

Kitty,

I think a good bit of the mutual frustration you and your correspondents are facing in this thread is that many of us (or at least I) are having difficulty understanding just what you're asking. Thing didn't start out well in your first post when you stated you were asking the question here because you were "too lazy to look" elsewhere -- actual quote, perhaps intended lightly, but this IS email, after all :-)

Because the discourse has deteriorated and I still don't understand your basic question, I logged on to the group's website to re-read the entire thread (you said you don't know how to search the forum, but a large percentage of posts to the group (including many on this thread) contain single-click links to tell you exactly how to do just that.

Many of your respondents tried to infer what email client you were using (none, as it turns out), and where you were storing the photos you wanted to attach to emails (an ancient version of iPhoto, as it turns out).

We still don't know whether you're using this approach because you have an old Mac that cannot be upgraded. However, if that's not the case, I'd add my vote to Anna Larson's: use Apple's Mail.app, if you can. Also, iPhoto has become better and better with each iteration.

Anna just taught me one other thing, too: make sure people understand where you're coming from. You can automate much of this by putting it in your signature. Many of us (I included) have used the signature to be "cute," to make reference to our hobbies, job, passions, political persuasions or metaphysical philosophies. Mine often says I like to ride a bike, but who cares about that :-).

Bottom line:
Use an email client (doesn't have to be Mail.app, but it's free and excellent)
Use webmail only in a pinch
Update your iPhoto if you can (not free, but not expensive, either).
If you do these things, your problem will be no more.

Oh, my new "ask a question" signature?

--
Jim Robertson

Mac Pro (Early 2008, Dual 2.8 Quad Core Xeons, 6 GB RAM
OS X 10.7.4)
MacBook Pro (15 inch Early 2011, 2 Ghz Intel Quad Core i7, 8 GB RAM
OS X 10.7.4)
iPad2 (16 GB ATT
iOS 5.1.1)
iPhone 4s (16 GB ATT
iOS 5.1.1)

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Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "Kitty" kquen2008@yahoo.com   kquen2008

Mon May 28, 2012 12:16 pm (PDT)



scroll down for integrated replies...

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@...> wrote:
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> Kitty,
>
>... in your first post when you stated you were asking the question here because you were "too lazy to look" elsewhere -- actual quote, perhaps intended lightly, but...

My exact words on my first message #143635:

<quote> This may have already been addressed but I'm too lazy to look and wouldn't know what to even look for in the archives anyway. How do you enlarge the thumbnails in iPhoto so you can see what you're trying to send / share? <unquote>

I don't see anything unclear about my above, original question.

> ... I still don't understand your basic question, I logged on to the group's website to re-read the entire thread (you said you don't know how to search the forum, but a large percentage of posts to the group (including many on this thread) contain single-click links to tell you exactly how to do just that.

I never said I don't know how to search the forum (archives). I said I wouldn't know what to look for (subject). Your making it more complicated than need be.

> Many of your respondents tried to infer what email client you were using (none, as it turns out), and where you were storing the photos you wanted to attach to emails (an ancient version of iPhoto, as it turns out).

I use Yahoo / Firefox, I'm not sure what to say; how to answer. I open an email window, type, hit 'ad attachment' and get 5 places to attach photos (with an option for adding more). I then choose from the browser at the end of each of the 5 places that takes me to a folder I created on my desk top, but the photos therein are too small...

> We still don't know whether you're using this approach because you have an old Mac that cannot be upgraded.

Yes, my old (UNupgradable) Mac is a big part of my problem. Maybe I should just give up on this technology altogether. I can't afford it.

>However, if that's not the case, I'd add my vote to Anna Larson's: use Apple's Mail.app, if you can. Also, iPhoto has become better and better with each iteration.

It seems I can't even do that for the age of my computer..
> ...automate much of this by putting it in your signature.

> Bottom line:
> Use an email client (doesn't have to be Mail.app, but it's free and excellent)

Can't seem to download it, for age of my computer.

> Use webmail only in a pinch
> Update your iPhoto if you can (not free, but not expensive, either).
> If you do these things, your problem will be no more.

Right....

> Oh, my new "ask a question" signature?

Sometimes this group seems like more of an opportunity for braggarts than a place for getting help.

Kitty

eMac
OS 10.4.11
1.25GHz Power PC G4
1.25 GB DDR SDRAM

> --
> Jim Robertson
>
> Mac Pro (Early 2008, Dual 2.8 Quad Core Xeons, 6 GB RAM
> OS X 10.7.4)
> MacBook Pro (15 inch Early 2011, 2 Ghz Intel Quad Core i7, 8 GB RAM
> OS X 10.7.4)
> iPad2 (16 GB ATT
> iOS 5.1.1)
> iPhone 4s (16 GB ATT
> iOS 5.1.1)
>

2.3.

Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon May 28, 2012 12:47 pm (PDT)



>> We still don't know whether you're using this approach because you have an old Mac that cannot be upgraded.
>
> Yes, my old (UNupgradable) Mac is a big part of my problem. Maybe I should just give up on this technology altogether. I can't afford it.
>
> Kitty
>
> eMac
> OS 10.4.11
> 1.25GHz Power PC G4
> 1.25 GB DDR SDRAM

1. According to Mactracker, you have the next-to-last eMac, discontinued 7 years ago. Nevertheless it WILL run MacOS Leopard (10.5.8) if you can get it.

2. A fully-warranted refurbished 21.5" iMac can be bought from Apple for $1000
<http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/imac/21>

3. Used Intel iMacs can be bought for as little as $450
<http://lowendmac.com/deals/best-intel-imac-prices.html>

There should be no surprise that hardware discontinued 7 years ago running software discontinued 4.5 years ago lacks some capabilities you might want today.

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2.4.

Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "Bekah" bekah0176@sbcglobal.net   bekalex

Mon May 28, 2012 12:49 pm (PDT)



Kitty, I think you can NOT enlarge the photos from the folder. That's the size they are in the folder and that's what you're going to get.

Try a new photo directly from iPhoto by exporting it (not dragging) in the size you want and into a new folder. Then go to your Yahoo mail and try to upload that one - easy to find if you have a new folder with one photo in it - do it to see what you can do - mail it to yourself if you want to as a practice shot.

Then if it works you can "export" the photos you want this time from iPhoto (and you might title them so you know which is which) in a column folder display.

Hope that helps,
Bekah

On May 28, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Kitty wrote:

> scroll down for integrated replies...
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@...> wrote:
>>
>> Kitty,
>>
>> ... in your first post when you stated you were asking the question here because you were "too lazy to look" elsewhere -- actual quote, perhaps intended lightly, but...
>
> My exact words on my first message #143635:
>
> <quote> This may have already been addressed but I'm too lazy to look and wouldn't know what to even look for in the archives anyway. How do you enlarge the thumbnails in iPhoto so you can see what you're trying to send / share? <unquote>
>
> I don't see anything unclear about my above, original question.
>
>> ... I still don't understand your basic question, I logged on to the group's website to re-read the entire thread (you said you don't know how to search the forum, but a large percentage of posts to the group (including many on this thread) contain single-click links to tell you exactly how to do just that.
>
> I never said I don't know how to search the forum (archives). I said I wouldn't know what to look for (subject). Your making it more complicated than need be.
>
>> Many of your respondents tried to infer what email client you were using (none, as it turns out), and where you were storing the photos you wanted to attach to emails (an ancient version of iPhoto, as it turns out).
>
> I use Yahoo / Firefox, I'm not sure what to say; how to answer. I open an email window, type, hit 'ad attachment' and get 5 places to attach photos (with an option for adding more). I then choose from the browser at the end of each of the 5 places that takes me to a folder I created on my desk top, but the photos therein are too small...
>
>> We still don't know whether you're using this approach because you have an old Mac that cannot be upgraded.
>
> Yes, my old (UNupgradable) Mac is a big part of my problem. Maybe I should just give up on this technology altogether. I can't afford it.
>
>> However, if that's not the case, I'd add my vote to Anna Larson's: use Apple's Mail.app, if you can. Also, iPhoto has become better and better with each iteration.
>
> It seems I can't even do that for the age of my computer..
>> ...automate much of this by putting it in your signature.
>
>> Bottom line:
>> Use an email client (doesn't have to be Mail.app, but it's free and excellent)
>
> Can't seem to download it, for age of my computer.
>
>> Use webmail only in a pinch
>> Update your iPhoto if you can (not free, but not expensive, either).
>> If you do these things, your problem will be no more.
>
> Right....
>
>> Oh, my new "ask a question" signature?
>
> Sometimes this group seems like more of an opportunity for braggarts than a place for getting help.
>
> Kitty
>
> eMac
> OS 10.4.11
> 1.25GHz Power PC G4
> 1.25 GB DDR SDRAM
>
>> --
>> Jim Robertson
>>
>> Mac Pro (Early 2008, Dual 2.8 Quad Core Xeons, 6 GB RAM
>> OS X 10.7.4)
>> MacBook Pro (15 inch Early 2011, 2 Ghz Intel Quad Core i7, 8 GB RAM
>> OS X 10.7.4)
>> iPad2 (16 GB ATT
>> iOS 5.1.1)
>> iPhone 4s (16 GB ATT
>> iOS 5.1.1)
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

2.5.

Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Mon May 28, 2012 1:13 pm (PDT)



On 28 May 2012 20:16, Kitty <kquen2008@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I use Yahoo / Firefox, I'm not sure what to say; how to answer. I open an
> email window, type, hit 'ad attachment' and get 5 places to attach photos
> (with an option for adding more). I then choose from the browser at the end
> of each of the 5 places that takes me to a folder I created on my desk top,
> but the photos therein are too small...
>

I'll ask again: if you click on any one of those too-small photos, do you
see a larger version?

> > Bottom line:
> > Use an email client (doesn't have to be Mail.app, but it's free and
> excellent)
>
> Can't seem to download it, for age of my computer.
>

Unless you've deleted it, you have always had a version of Mail on your
Mac.

>
> > Use webmail only in a pinch
> > Update your iPhoto if you can (not free, but not expensive, either).
> > If you do these things, your problem will be no more.
>
> Right....
>

Using webmail should be fine. I use it routinely with Gmail, as I'm doing
now, and I started doing so when I had 10.4.

Otto

>
>

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3a.

OOPS!

Posted by: "Denton" wb0zur@gmail.com   wb0zur

Mon May 28, 2012 8:47 am (PDT)



Hi Everybody,
I hope everybody is having a good Memorial Day!

Well I did a oops, my applications tab is gone on the dock? (i don't know right beside the Finder on the bottom of the page)

Would somebody tell me how to get it back? I can look at it in the finder, I just need to get it back.

Denton Larson
Arlington MN

3b.

Re: OOPS!

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Mon May 28, 2012 8:59 am (PDT)



On Mon, 28 May 2012 15:47:55 -0000, Denton wrote:
> Would somebody tell me how to get it back? I can look at it in the
> finder, I just need to get it back.

Go to the Finder, grab the Applications folder, drag it to the Dock, and release it into the desired location.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.
3c.

Re: OOPS!

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Mon May 28, 2012 9:52 am (PDT)



Drag the Applications folder back to the Dock.

!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone

— my magical animal is a butterfly

On May 28, 2012, at 11:47 AM, "Denton" <wb0zur@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
> I hope everybody is having a good Memorial Day!
>
> Well I did a oops, my applications tab is gone on the dock? (i don't know right beside the Finder on the bottom of the page)
>
> Would somebody tell me how to get it back? I can look at it in the finder, I just need to get it back.
>
> Denton Larson
> Arlington MN
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

3d.

Re: OOPS!

Posted by: "Jim Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Mon May 28, 2012 1:06 pm (PDT)



Drag the applications icon from the "root" Finder window to the Dock.

Sent from my iPad

On May 28, 2012, at 8:47, "Denton" <wb0zur@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
> I hope everybody is having a good Memorial Day!
>
> Well I did a oops, my applications tab is gone on the dock? (i don't know right beside the Finder on the bottom of the page)
>
> Would somebody tell me how to get it back? I can look at it in the finder, I just need to get it back.
>
> Denton Larson
> Arlington MN
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

4a.

Re: DNSCrypt from OpenDNS

Posted by: "Joan B. Sax, Ph.D." jsax@me.com   joan05061

Mon May 28, 2012 9:12 am (PDT)



I found that you have to click on the Network Name under the Wi-Fi tab (I am using Lion and a Wi-Fi router) in order to be able to add the OpenDNS IP address. When I did so, and added the OpenDNS IP address, it allowed me to add them. Now when I go back to the Network System Preferebcem the linksys (the name of my network) it is grayed out and under the DNS tab, only the OpenDNS IP address is listed. Also now, under the WiFi tab, the linksys network name (in the Preferred Networks dialogue box) is grayed out and under "Security: is the grayed out notice of "none". I seem to be able to go to the browser, so I assume that all is well. Right?
Also, I did also add my network to the OpenDNS. I am not real clear if that in effect has installed it on the router and therefore on my computer the network name "linksys" is grayed out. Am I making sense?

Joan in Vermont where it is glorious (for the moment).

4b.

Re: DNSCrypt from OpenDNS

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon May 28, 2012 11:02 am (PDT)



> I found that you have to click on the Network Name under the Wi-Fi tab (I am using Lion and a Wi-Fi router) in order to be able to add the OpenDNS IP address. When I did so, and added the OpenDNS IP address, it allowed me to add them.
>
> Now when I go back to the Network System Preferebcem the linksys (the name of my network) it is grayed out and under the DNS tab, only the OpenDNS IP address is listed.
>
> Also now, under the WiFi tab, the linksys network name (in the Preferred Networks dialogue box) is grayed out and under "Security: is the grayed out notice of "none".

This all sounds as though you need to unlock the preference pane (at the "Network" level of System Preferences.

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5a.

Unix executable files

Posted by: "Joan Mihay" jmihay@charter.net   mihayjoan

Mon May 28, 2012 12:28 pm (PDT)



Hello,

I have important files that were created in the late 80s or early 90s
on a G4 or G5, that are now labeled as unix executable files.

I have gone to the web with this problem, but information is very
confusing.

These are text files and I want to convert them to text files. Is
there a way to do this? I am using Mac OS 10.5.8
Thanks in advance

Joan Mihay
Morro Bay, CA

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5b.

Re: Unix executable files

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Mon May 28, 2012 12:33 pm (PDT)



> I have important files that were created in the late 80s or early 90s on a G4 or G5, that are now labeled as unix executable files.
>
> These are text files and I want to convert them to text files.
> Is there a way to do this? I am using Mac OS 10.5.8
>
> Joan Mihay

What program were they created by?
If not ".txt" or ".rtf", what suffix do they have?
Have you tried simply opening them in TextEdit?

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6.

Adobe Elements 10

Posted by: "Dolores" djdesi98@gmail.com   djdesideri

Mon May 28, 2012 12:42 pm (PDT)



I want to upgrade to Adobe Elements 10. I remember reading about problems with this software, but don't remember what they are. Does anyone know if the problems were corrected?

This is a download I believe and I've never downloaded a major program. Should I do a back-up and if so - how do I back it up?

dolores

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