5/30/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8921

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Unix executable files From: Bill B.
2a.
Re: Evernote versus Springpad From: Bill B.
2b.
Re: Evernote versus Springpad From: Daly Jessup
3a.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: Dane Robison
3b.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: Jim Saklad
3c.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: LouisD
3d.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: Otto Nikolaus
3e.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: Otto Nikolaus
3f.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: LouisD
3g.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: Otto Nikolaus
3h.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: LouisD
3i.
Re: How do I recover deleted files? From: LouisD
4a.
How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to my M From: KathyBL
4b.
Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to From: Gijzette Strickland
4c.
Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to From: Harry Flaxman
4d.
Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to From: Harry Flaxman
4e.
Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to From: KathyBL
4f.
Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to From: N.A. Nada
5.1.
Re: thumbnails too small From: gicleeman
5.2.
Re: thumbnails too small From: N.A. Nada
6a.
Windows 7 on iMac From: Jeff
6b.
Re: Windows 7 on iMac From: Bill Boulware
6c.
Re: Windows 7 on iMac From: James Robertson
6d.
Re: Windows 7 on iMac From: Jim Hamm
7a.
Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads From: James Robertson

Messages

1a.

Re: Unix executable files

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Wed May 30, 2012 6:31 am (PDT)



At 9:00 AM -0700 5/29/12, Joan Mihay wrote:
>unix executable files will not open with TextEdit.

Tex-Edit Plus and BBEdit will open any file. They can be helpful if you don't know what a file is. BBEdit is especially useful as it will recognize and display a number of file types like XML and plists.

Bill

2a.

Re: Evernote versus Springpad

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Wed May 30, 2012 6:49 am (PDT)



At 6:04 PM +0000 5/29/12, joan05061 wrote:
>>>Actually, I found a very thorough article on the net (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216401/Try_to_remember_Evernote_vs._Springpad?taxonomyId=18&pageNumber=1) comparing the two. I have decided to stay with Evernote, but the article is an excellent way for anyone to get a good idea of the good features of each.<<<

I cant get the link to open (bad dial-up). Do either of these programs allow encrypting the data?

Bill B

2b.

Re: Evernote versus Springpad

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Wed May 30, 2012 6:25 pm (PDT)




On May 30, 2012, at 6:49 AM, Bill B. wrote:

> At 6:04 PM +0000 5/29/12, joan05061 wrote:
>>>> Actually, I found a very thorough article on the net (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216401/Try_to_remember_Evernote_vs._Springpad?taxonomyId=18&pageNumber=1) comparing the two. I have decided to stay with Evernote, but the article is an excellent way for anyone to get a good idea of the good features of each.<<<
>
> I cant get the link to open (bad dial-up). Do either of these programs allow encrypting the data?

That article doesn't address the issue. But I gather that it's a big question for both programs. I googled "is springpad data encrypted" and "is evernote data encrypted" and there are TONS of found items for both. I think the bottom line is that neither is very well encrypted.

Daly
3a.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Wed May 30, 2012 8:15 am (PDT)



I'll second that. PhotoRec is quick, easy, free and effective.

On May 30, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> Assuming you have no backups (why?), I suggest PhotoRec. It runs under
> Terminal but is free and easy to use. It comes with another utility called
> TestDisk.
> <
> http://download.cnet.com/TestDisk-PhotoRec/3000-2248_4-10511792.html?tag=pwd;alsoDlScroller
> ?
> or <http://cnet.co/KW2sMI>
> (Ignore the Clean your Mac option!)
>
> Otto
>
> On 30 May 2012 12:35, LouisD <lou@loudina.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm on OSX 10.6.8. I accidentally deleted a slew of large digital images
>> and emptied my trash bin, and I need to recover them, if possible. They're
>> on a separate data drive from my programs and OS, so I am hoping that makes
>> recovery more likely.
>>
>> I'd prefer to do it without software, but I'm not proud. If there is a
>> good utility that will do it quickly and reliably (insofar as possible), I
>> am willing to use it. Of course, if I can recover files without a utility
>> and too much effort, I prefer that course.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.

3b.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed May 30, 2012 8:47 am (PDT)



> I'm on OSX 10.6.8. I accidentally deleted a slew of large digital images and emptied my trash bin, and I need to recover them, if possible. They're on a separate data drive from my programs and OS, so I am hoping that makes recovery more likely.
>
> I'd prefer to do it without software, but I'm not proud. If there is a good utility that will do it quickly and reliably (insofar as possible), I am willing to use it. Of course, if I can recover files without a utility and too much effort, I prefer that course.
>
> Lou

I have two easy options available to me, because I regularly back up my computer.

You don't?

3c.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com   ldina

Wed May 30, 2012 9:35 am (PDT)



Thanks for the feedback, folks.

Yes, I back up every night using SuperDuper. Unfortunately, I was extremely tired after a 9-hour drive yesterday, and accidentally trashed ALL my photos from a recent photo shoot, instead of just trashing the "dogs". I emptied the Trash bin too. That was all done BEFORE my system backed up last night. Pure User error. I don't use Time Machine.

I'm still trying to sort of where my trash bin is located and see if the files I deleted are still there. I', not very familiar with Terminal and am trying to find the trash location, then see what is there that can be recovered.

Thanks,

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
>
> > I'm on OSX 10.6.8. I accidentally deleted a slew of large digital images and emptied my trash bin, and I need to recover them, if possible. They're on a separate data drive from my programs and OS, so I am hoping that makes recovery more likely.
> >
> > I'd prefer to do it without software, but I'm not proud. If there is a good utility that will do it quickly and reliably (insofar as possible), I am willing to use it. Of course, if I can recover files without a utility and too much effort, I prefer that course.
> >
> > Lou
>
> I have two easy options available to me, because I regularly back up my computer.
>
> You don't?
>

3d.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed May 30, 2012 11:54 am (PDT)



And they've all gone from your camera/card(s) too?

How do you expect to find them in Trash? The files *are* still there, but
the directory entries have been deleted, which is why you need a recovery
app.

Actually, PhotoRec really is easy. This topic came up a while ago and I
listed instructions. I'll come back with that.

Otto

On 30 May 2012 17:35, LouisD <lou@loudina.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, folks.
>
> Yes, I back up every night using SuperDuper. Unfortunately, I was
> extremely tired after a 9-hour drive yesterday, and accidentally trashed
> ALL my photos from a recent photo shoot, instead of just trashing the
> "dogs". I emptied the Trash bin too. That was all done BEFORE my system
> backed up last night. Pure User error. I don't use Time Machine.
>
> I'm still trying to sort of where my trash bin is located and see if the
> files I deleted are still there. I', not very familiar with Terminal and am
> trying to find the trash location, then see what is there that can be
> recovered.
>
> Thanks,
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

3e.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed May 30, 2012 12:11 pm (PDT)



Here's the "proper" download site for TestDisk/PhotoRec.
<http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download>

This is for a FAT-formatted card, so you will have to change some details.

Otto
----

Step-by-step.

Decide where recovered files will go. Home > Pictures seems the obvious
place.

Connect your memory card reader.

Click or double-click on Applications > TestDisk > PhotoRec. A Terminal
window opens and you are asked to select the media. In my case I get
Disk /dev/disk1 - (size)
Disk /dev/rdisk1 - (size)
The first is selected by default.

Forget the mouse/trackpad while you're using Terminal. Use the arrow keys
to change selections and the <enter> key to action a choice.

Press <enter>. A list of partition table types appears.

Select Intel/PC using the arrow keys and press <enter>. A description of
the drive and partition appears. It is likely to be FAT16 or FAT32. At the
bottom are options Search/Options/File Opt/Quit. The first is selected by
default.

Press <enter> to start file recovery. A choice of file systems appears.

Ensure Other is selected and press <enter>. A choice of Free or Whole
appears. If the drive is not corrupted Free is OK, otherwise select Whole.

Press <enter>. A list of destination folders appears.
Select Pictures and press C.

Recovery starts, showing you the elapsed and estimated times. As files are
recovered, the total for each kind is updated. Note that all types are
recovered, not just image files. Allow this to complete. A summary appears,
giving you the total files recovered and their location.

Press <enter> to Quit, then command-q to quit Terminal.

Look at the recovered files!

If you don't get what you expected, repeat the above but using rdisk1
instead of rdisk.
----

On 30 May 2012 19:54, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> And they've all gone from your camera/card(s) too?
>
> How do you expect to find them in Trash? The files *are* still there, but
> the directory entries have been deleted, which is why you need a recovery
> app.
>
> Actually, PhotoRec really is easy. This topic came up a while ago and I
> listed instructions. I'll come back with that.
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

3f.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com   ldina

Wed May 30, 2012 12:19 pm (PDT)



Thanks, Otto.

I have to head out for the afternoon, but will go through things when I get back. I appreciate it!

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's the "proper" download site for TestDisk/PhotoRec.
> <http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download>
>
> This is for a FAT-formatted card, so you will have to change some details.
>
> Otto
> ----
>
> Step-by-step.
>
> Decide where recovered files will go. Home > Pictures seems the obvious
> place.
>
> Connect your memory card reader.
>
> Click or double-click on Applications > TestDisk > PhotoRec. A Terminal
> window opens and you are asked to select the media. In my case I get
> Disk /dev/disk1 - (size)
> Disk /dev/rdisk1 - (size)
> The first is selected by default.
>
> Forget the mouse/trackpad while you're using Terminal. Use the arrow keys
> to change selections and the <enter> key to action a choice.
>
> Press <enter>. A list of partition table types appears.
>
> Select Intel/PC using the arrow keys and press <enter>. A description of
> the drive and partition appears. It is likely to be FAT16 or FAT32. At the
> bottom are options Search/Options/File Opt/Quit. The first is selected by
> default.
>
> Press <enter> to start file recovery. A choice of file systems appears.
>
> Ensure Other is selected and press <enter>. A choice of Free or Whole
> appears. If the drive is not corrupted Free is OK, otherwise select Whole.
>
> Press <enter>. A list of destination folders appears.
> Select Pictures and press C.
>
> Recovery starts, showing you the elapsed and estimated times. As files are
> recovered, the total for each kind is updated. Note that all types are
> recovered, not just image files. Allow this to complete. A summary appears,
> giving you the total files recovered and their location.
>
> Press <enter> to Quit, then command-q to quit Terminal.
>
> Look at the recovered files!
>
> If you don't get what you expected, repeat the above but using rdisk1
> instead of rdisk.
> ----
>
> On 30 May 2012 19:54, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> > And they've all gone from your camera/card(s) too?
> >
> > How do you expect to find them in Trash? The files *are* still there, but
> > the directory entries have been deleted, which is why you need a recovery
> > app.
> >
> > Actually, PhotoRec really is easy. This topic came up a while ago and I
> > listed instructions. I'll come back with that.
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

3g.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed May 30, 2012 1:32 pm (PDT)



(You know that in OS X, each volume (drive/partition) has its own Trash
folder)?

If you need something more specific, I'll connect up an external and update
the relevant bits. Is your separate data drive partitioned?

Otto

On 30 May 2012 20:19, LouisD <lou@loudina.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Otto.
>
> I have to head out for the afternoon, but will go through things when I
> get back. I appreciate it!
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

3h.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com   ldina

Wed May 30, 2012 8:21 pm (PDT)



Otto,

My Data HD is a 1 GB internal Sata drive dedicated to data and is not partitioned. I'm totally new to Terminal, so I am not very good at this. I used to do a lot of DOS stuff on PCs, but they are quite different. I managed to get to my Data HD in terminal, but don't see a Trash folder.

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
>
> (You know that in OS X, each volume (drive/partition) has its own Trash
> folder)?
>
> If you need something more specific, I'll connect up an external and update
> the relevant bits. Is your separate data drive partitioned?
>
> Otto
>
> On 30 May 2012 20:19, LouisD <lou@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Otto.
> >
> > I have to head out for the afternoon, but will go through things when I
> > get back. I appreciate it!
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

3i.

Re: How do I recover deleted files?

Posted by: "LouisD" lou@loudina.com   ldina

Wed May 30, 2012 8:24 pm (PDT)



I figured out that the Trash file on my Data HD is called ".Trashes" for whatever reason. I was able to navigate to that folder in Terminal, but it tells me that Permission is denied.

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "LouisD" <lou@...> wrote:
>
> Otto,
>
> My Data HD is a 1 GB internal Sata drive dedicated to data and is not partitioned. I'm totally new to Terminal, so I am not very good at this. I used to do a lot of DOS stuff on PCs, but they are quite different. I managed to get to my Data HD in terminal, but don't see a Trash folder.
>
> Lou

4a.

How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to my M

Posted by: "KathyBL" battslewis@mac.com   KathyBL

Wed May 30, 2012 8:27 am (PDT)



Hi,

My friend gave me an iPod touch with music (mpeg-1) files. I cannot transfer the music to my Macintosh iTunes library.

Any help is gratefully received.

Regards,

Kathy

4b.

Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to

Posted by: "Gijzette Strickland" gsstrickland@gmail.com   gijzette

Wed May 30, 2012 8:50 am (PDT)



I have a couple of different software programs I have used to accomplish
this. One is free program called Senuti
http://www.fadingred.com/senuti/and one you have to pay for but if you
have an iPhone will also allow you
to transfer contacts and SMS messages and is called Phoneview
http://www.ecamm.com/mac/phoneview/.

If you want to use Senuti here is a link that has step by step instructions
http://www.macinstruct.com/node/74 .

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gijzette Strickland - Elfin Bears™ -
OOAK Miniature Bears and Friends
http://www.elfinbears.com
http://twitter.com/ElfinBears
"It is astonishing how many thoroughly mature, well-adjusted grown-ups
harbor a teddy bear - which is perhaps why they are thoroughly mature and
well-adjusted." ~~Joseph Lempa.

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:27 AM, KathyBL <battslewis@mac.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My friend gave me an iPod touch with music (mpeg-1) files. I cannot
> transfer the music to my Macintosh iTunes library.
>
> Any help is gratefully received.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
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>
>
>
>

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4c.

Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Wed May 30, 2012 9:01 am (PDT)



On 5/30/2012 11:27 AM, KathyBL wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My friend gave me an iPod touch with music (mpeg-1) files. I cannot transfer the music to my Macintosh iTunes library.
>
> Any help is gratefully received.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kathy
>

Try the free app DeTune:

http://www.headlightsoft.com/detune/

This has replaced the excellent free app Expod and works basically the same.

Harry

4d.

Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Wed May 30, 2012 9:02 am (PDT)



On 5/30/2012 11:27 AM, KathyBL wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My friend gave me an iPod touch with music (mpeg-1) files. I cannot transfer the music to my Macintosh iTunes library.
>
> Any help is gratefully received.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kathy
>

Try the free app DeTune:

http://www.headlightsoft.com/detune/

This has replaced the excellent free app Expod and works basically the same.

Harry

4e.

Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to

Posted by: "KathyBL" battslewis@mac.com   KathyBL

Wed May 30, 2012 9:07 am (PDT)



thanks Gijzette and Harry,

I had over 3K songs so I just bout the Sentuti license. Working as we speak. Have a good one.

Kathy

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Gijzette Strickland <gsstrickland@...> wrote:
>
> I have a couple of different software programs I have used to accomplish
> this. One is free program called Senuti
> http://www.fadingred.com/senuti/

4f.

Re: How to Transfer Non-purchased (itunes) music from iPod touch to

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed May 30, 2012 1:08 pm (PDT)



Senuti will copy them to your Mac, but only does music.

PhoneView will copy much more to your Mac and is the one I would recommend purchasing. I own and have used both.

Others have also recommend both of these.

On May 30, 2012, at 8:27 AM, KathyBL wrote:

Hi,

My friend gave me an iPod touch with music (mpeg-1) files. I cannot transfer the music to my Macintosh iTunes library.

5.1.

Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "gicleeman" gicleeman@mail.com   gicleeman

Wed May 30, 2012 11:02 am (PDT)





I'll jump into the fray to make an observation and suggestion.
I also am using OS 10.4.11 and iPhoto 5.0.4, and I'll say that you can't enlarge the thumbs in iPhoto when using the attachment button in Yahoo mail/Firefox 3.6.28. Things are different in newer systems and what Anna suggests doesn't work either.

When you click on "Attach Files" in Yahoo mail your Finder window opens to allow you to select your attachment(s). You can view your Finder's contents in any of 3 different ways; icon view, list view, or column view. The only way you'll see an enlarged thumbnail is if you have the Finder "view" configured to "Column View". If you'll look at this link I put up, you'll see what is probably your only option. The first view is "list view", which shows a thumbnail that is way to small to see the content. The 2nd example is the column view, which gives you a fairly decent size thumbnail to preview before uploading to your email.

http://www.morrobaygiclee.com/Picture4.jpg

Peter

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Kitty" <kquen2008@...> wrote:
>
> This may have already been addressed but I'm too lazy to look and wouldn't know what to even look for in the archives anyway.
>
> How do you enlarge the thumbnails in iphoto so you can see what you're trying to send / share?
>
> Thanks in advance...
>

5.2.

Re: thumbnails too small

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed May 30, 2012 1:18 pm (PDT)




On May 30, 2012, at 5:01 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

On 30 May 2012 05:22, Anna Larson <pix@maksimo.de> wrote:

>
>
> If you still insist on using the Yahoo webmail service then enlarging the
> thumbnails before you send photos shouldn't be any problem at all, contrary
> to what people here on the list have been telling you. In fact you have
> several options to choose from to accomplish this task. I am using OS
> 10.7.4, but I think this works basically the same in Tiger (v. 10.4.11).
>
> You use iPhoto to store your photos. Right?
<snip>

Anna,

That's excellent and I apologise for any misleading claims I might have
made, in particular the Media > Photos option when attaching to Yahoo Mail,
which I hadn't noticed before (I needed to scroll down to see it).

Some of the options you describe are not available to me, though (10.5.8),
and they won't be for Kitty either.

Otto

And that was my point, assuming Kitty, with 10.4.11, will be able to do all of that was a big assumption. You and others are reporting that it will not work in either 10.4 or 10.5.

I find it easier to KISS, Keep It Simple, Sam. Locate it by name and not image.

Brent
6a.

Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "Jeff" jbturof@yahoo.com   jbturof

Wed May 30, 2012 12:10 pm (PDT)



Hi all.
I'd like to install Windows 7 on my new iMac (27" i7 quad-core/Lion) via BootCamp. On looking for a license for Windows to purchase, I became confused as to which Windows 7 I need to buy??
I found one that's called
"Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack". Another called "Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Upgrade "
and a third called "Microsoft Windows 7 Professional".

All 3 are 3 different prices ranging from $69 to $250.

Might I not even need Professional and just go with Premium Home or just Home edition???
For cryin out loud...how many reasons did I need to stay away from Windows at home all these years...except now I need it.

Any recommendations as to which I need?

Thanks.
Jeff

6b.

Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Wed May 30, 2012 12:13 pm (PDT)



Get the System Builder. Any "Upgrade" version is going to require at least
a full installation CD/DVD of an older version if not an installed version.
The system builder versions are usually cheaper / OEM versions that
require that you buy some other small piece of hard ware (a disk driver,
power supply, graphics card, etc) to take advantage of the OEM loop hole of
cheaper OS price....

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Jeff <jbturof@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi all.
> I'd like to install Windows 7 on my new iMac (27" i7 quad-core/Lion) via
> BootCamp. On looking for a license for Windows to purchase, I became
> confused as to which Windows 7 I need to buy??
> I found one that's called
> "Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack".
> Another called "Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Upgrade "
> and a third called "Microsoft Windows 7 Professional".
>
> All 3 are 3 different prices ranging from $69 to $250.
>
> Might I not even need Professional and just go with Premium Home or just
> Home edition???
> For cryin out loud...how many reasons did I need to stay away from Windows
> at home all these years...except now I need it.
>
> Any recommendations as to which I need?
>
> Thanks.
> Jeff
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

6c.

Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Wed May 30, 2012 2:00 pm (PDT)




On May 30, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jeff wrote:

> Might I not even need Professional and just go with Premium Home or just Home edition???
> For cryin out loud...how many reasons did I need to stay away from Windows at home all these years...except now I need it.
>
> Any recommendations as to which I need?

Main difference between "Home" and "Professional" versions is that the former can't be joined to an Active Directory LAN.

Main difference between "System Builder" and "retail" versions is basically what Bill said, although the license for a system builder version is supposedly tied to the specific piece of hardware for which it was purchased. If you connect to the Internet with your system builder installation, Microsoft will read the MAC (Ethernet Address) that points from your IP to the internet and not allow you to reinstall that licensed version on another computer.

Upgrade versions (either Home or Professional) require you to have a previous version of Windows installed on the computer where you install the new OS (or at least a previous version of the OS for which you hold an upgradable license.

--
Jim Robertson
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My other car is an S-Works Roubaix

6d.

Re: Windows 7 on iMac

Posted by: "Jim Hamm" machamm@gmail.com   jimhamm90

Wed May 30, 2012 9:07 pm (PDT)



I have both Windows 7 Home Premium and Windows 7 Professional and can't
tell the difference between the two. I'd go with Home Premium if I was
buying a version.....Jim

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Jeff <jbturof@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi all.
> I'd like to install Windows 7 on my new iMac (27" i7 quad-core/Lion) via
> BootCamp. On looking for a license for Windows to purchase, I became
> confused as to which Windows 7 I need to buy??
> I found one that's called
> "Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack".
> Another called "Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Upgrade "
> and a third called "Microsoft Windows 7 Professional".
>
> All 3 are 3 different prices ranging from $69 to $250.
>
> Might I not even need Professional and just go with Premium Home or just
> Home edition???
> For cryin out loud...how many reasons did I need to stay away from Windows
> at home all these years...except now I need it.
>
> Any recommendations as to which I need?
>
> Thanks.
> Jeff
>
>
>

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7a.

Re: Traveling in Europe with ATT iPads

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Wed May 30, 2012 2:09 pm (PDT)




On May 29, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Roger Harris wrote:

> Here are a few apps that I like for Paris: Paris2Go (tons of info w/wikipedia articles), RATP, Metro (both for the bus and metro systems), CityMaps2Go, OffMaps2 (both for mapping). None of these require an internet connection.
>
> Also, (only) if you have an American Express card, check out the Velib system online before you go. Bike rentals with pickup and drop off throughout the city.

Thanks so much for the suggestions. I've installed the Paris Metro app on my iPhone 4s and permitted "push" notifications. Heard about traffic congestion in Paris all night :-)

I do have a question. I'm sure I'll figure this out, but once I turned OFF Push notifications the app couldn't find anything (stations, addresses, etc.) Makes me wonder how it will work for anything without a cellular data connection. Any idea whether I'll burn through my bank account if I purchase international data roaming from ATT and be very careful about what apps I allow to receive and transmit data by cellular connection when I'm in Paris?

As for biking in Paris, I did that once (sprinted up the Champs Élysées once the street was closed the morning Lance won his sixth). I wouldn't relish doing it meshed in with Parisian taxi drivers!

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