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Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:01 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
Hi,
I don't have OSX in front of me now, only a (gnome) linux box, but
doesn't clicking on the space above/below the scroll bar have the same
effect as those dinky little arrow buttons (and provide a much larger
target to aim at) ? Certainly works like that here...
Chris
On 18/12/12 14:57, Richard Huggins wrote:
> On Dec 17, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk > wrote:
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>> "… Personally, I like the look without them, I think it's a cleaner UI."
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> As long as we're offering an opinion, mine is that I think "cleaner look" has to be subordinate to functionality. Arrows allow *incremental* (precise, pre-defined) movement of the window contents. Abandoning them means more time spent trying to see all of (but no more than) the next page's contents by trial and error movement of the mouse on the slider.
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> Most people will think of up-and-down scrolling and would argue that the spacebar, for example, does next-page scrolling. Or Page Up/Page Down. But I work with software where left-right page contents are important, and the arrows help that go quicker.
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> IS this something that could be returned via third-party software and has anyone?
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> RH
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I don't have OSX in front of me now, only a (gnome) linux box, but
doesn't clicking on the space above/below the scroll bar have the same
effect as those dinky little arrow buttons (and provide a much larger
target to aim at) ? Certainly works like that here...
Chris
On 18/12/12 14:57, Richard Huggins wrote:
> On Dec 17, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Chris Jones<jonesc@hep.phy.
>
>> "… Personally, I like the look without them, I think it's a cleaner UI."
>
>
>
> As long as we're offering an opinion, mine is that I think "cleaner look" has to be subordinate to functionality. Arrows allow *incremental* (precise, pre-defined) movement of the window contents. Abandoning them means more time spent trying to see all of (but no more than) the next page's contents by trial and error movement of the mouse on the slider.
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> Most people will think of up-and-down scrolling and would argue that the spacebar, for example, does next-page scrolling. Or Page Up/Page Down. But I work with software where left-right page contents are important, and the arrows help that go quicker.
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> IS this something that could be returned via third-party software and has anyone?
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> RH
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Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:22 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
At 10:35 AM +0000 12/18/12, Jeff wrote:
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>I'm a lifelong Mac user.
>A couple months ago the display on my MacBook Pro (MacBookPro4,1)
>started failing. Started with occasional vertical lines and now
>they're always there. Typing on it now, it's difficult to read what
>I'm typing (so please excuse any errors).
>Other than this problem, it's working great.
>Does anyone know of a place/person I could get a replacement display
>from that won't cost me over $200?? The actual value of the laptop
>isn't over $150 so obviously, it isn't worth it to spend the $$$$$
>to send it out to be replaced. I figure if I can get a replacement
>display for a decent cost, I'll do it myself.
We don't know it is the display. Could be the video circuitry. If
there is a handy Apple Store make a genius bar appointment and they
can diagnose it for you.
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Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
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>I'm a lifelong Mac user.
>A couple months ago the display on my MacBook Pro (MacBookPro4,
>started failing. Started with occasional vertical lines and now
>they're always there. Typing on it now, it's difficult to read what
>I'm typing (so please excuse any errors).
>Other than this problem, it's working great.
>Does anyone know of a place/person I could get a replacement display
>from that won't cost me over $200?? The actual value of the laptop
>isn't over $150 so obviously, it isn't worth it to spend the $$$$$
>to send it out to be replaced. I figure if I can get a replacement
>display for a decent cost, I'll do it myself.
We don't know it is the display. Could be the video circuitry. If
there is a handy Apple Store make a genius bar appointment and they
can diagnose it for you.
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Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:48 am (PST) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
I agree with the Genius bar approach. Not only might they help diagnose, the fix might be less than you think (though not likely).
But after that, start with eBay. There is a thriving trade in both broken machines and individual parts. In your case, you probably want a failed machine with a good screen. Your likely to pay more for someone to have pulled and properly identified the part.
Then you might shop for an Internet fixed price repair vendor like "ifixyoui.com." This is a thriving business now and it works quite well. Research the specific vendors reputation, but my two experiences with these have worked out quite well.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:35 AM, Jeff wrote:
> I'm a lifelong Mac user.
> A couple months ago the display on my MacBook Pro (MacBookPro4,1) started failing. Started with occasional vertical lines and now they're always there. Typing on it now, it's difficult to read what I'm typing (so please excuse any errors).
> Other than this problem, it's working great.
> Does anyone know of a place/person I could get a replacement display from that won't cost me over $200?? The actual value of the laptop isn't over $150 so obviously, it isn't worth it to spend the $$$$$ to send it out to be replaced. I figure if I can get a replacement display for a decent cost, I'll do it myself.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jeff
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But after that, start with eBay. There is a thriving trade in both broken machines and individual parts. In your case, you probably want a failed machine with a good screen. Your likely to pay more for someone to have pulled and properly identified the part.
Then you might shop for an Internet fixed price repair vendor like "ifixyoui.com.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-
On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:35 AM, Jeff wrote:
> I'm a lifelong Mac user.
> A couple months ago the display on my MacBook Pro (MacBookPro4,
> Other than this problem, it's working great.
> Does anyone know of a place/person I could get a replacement display from that won't cost me over $200?? The actual value of the laptop isn't over $150 so obviously, it isn't worth it to spend the $$$$$ to send it out to be replaced. I figure if I can get a replacement display for a decent cost, I'll do it myself.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jeff
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