5/29/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9564

15 New Messages

Digest #9564
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Re: Database program for OS-X by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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Re: Digest Number 9563 by "Peter Gold" idmacguy
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Re: Digest Number 9563 by "John Masters" joemastersk
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Two Mail questions by "bobbystar" bobbystar
3b
Re: Two Mail questions by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
3c
Re: Two Mail questions by "Oneal Neumann" newalander
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Sudden disappearing e mail by "William Pontius MD" saltayre
4b
Re: Sudden disappearing e mail by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Protected AAC audio files from iTunes by "Bill Boulware" boulware0224
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Re: BluRay - MacPro - Disappearing Act by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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AppleScript Info for New Mac Users by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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iCloud "Drive" in Finder? by "Ian Gillis" ianjgillis
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FaceTime & Mac Serial Number on Logic Board by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Messages

Tue May 28, 2013 11:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On May 27, 2013, at 8:13 AM, RLN37 wrote:

> have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily give up. It is a database program called Foxbase.

Just FYI, you can migrate your data from Foxbase to Filemaker Pro using:

FMPro Migrator
http://www.fmpromigrator.com/products/fmpro_migrator/index.html

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

Tue May 28, 2013 11:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Peter Gold" idmacguy

Hi, Randy:

Thanks for the great list of OS X database applications.

It's not clear from the original poster how he was using FoxBase. It was
patterned after Ashton-Tate's dBASE products. I've not used the Fox
products, but if they retained the dBASE ability to use it by typing
commands at a prompt (aka command-line querying.) These commands could also
be collected in a file and run as a batch.

Whichever way the original poster used FoxBase, the question is: does
anyone have experience with any of these OS X database applications that
work in one or both of these ways? Bento and FileMaker Pro don't work from
a command line. I don't know any of the others, but I'll bet that
ProgressSQL might, if it's like most SQL applications. dBASE commands are
similar to SQL queries. It's worth a look.

The original poster suggested an averstion to a virtual Windows solution,
like Parallels or VMware. Is there an issue that might be overcome?

HTH

Regards,

Peter
_______________________
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

__________________________________________________________
> 1d. Re: Database program for OS-X
> Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
> Date: Mon May 27, 2013 10:39 pm ((PDT))
>
>
> On May 27, 2013, at 8:13 AM, RLN37 wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
>
> If you can't find a Mac substitute for your Windows database program, you
> aren't trying. There are more database choices for the Mac than for any
> other personal computer ever.
>
> On the high end there is:
>
> FileMaker Pro
> http://www.filemaker.com
>
> Panorama
> http://www.provue.com/
>
> 4th Dimension
> http://www.4d.com/products/4dv12.html
>
> Omnis Studio
> http://www.tigerlogic.com/omnis/products/studio/
>
> Helix
> http://www.qsatoolworks.com/product/
>
>
> On the low end there is:
>
> NeoOffice (free/$10)
> http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php
> LibreOffice (free)
> http://www.libreoffice.org
> Apache OpenOffice (free)
> http://www.openoffice.org/
> (Office suites with included databases.)
>
> Bento $49
> http://www.filemaker.com/products/bento/overview.html?nav=products-bento
>
> EagleData (free)
> http://www.eaglesoft.de/eagle/eagledata.html
>
> FrontBase (free if you forego support)
> http://www.frontbase.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/FBWebSite.woa
>
> Panorama Sheets ($40)
> http://provue.com/panoramasheets/index.html
>
> iList Data ($70)
> http://www.lakewoodstudios.com/ilistdata/
>
> iDatabase ($20)
> http://www.apimac.com/mac/idatabase/
>
> iData ($70)
> http://www.idata3.com/
>
> Valentina ($50)
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/
> http://www.valentina-db.com/
>
> SuperCard $179
> http://www.supercard.us/
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>
>

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Tue May 28, 2013 12:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"John Masters" joemastersk

PostgreSQL is the default database in OS X Server so if you have that installed you already have a very powerful database that can be queried from the command line. If you want to make it a little easier then try this: http://postgresapp.com

It has been a few years since I last used PostgreSQL and I have not tried the above app.

John Masters
johnmasters@me.com

On 28 May 2013, at 19:39, Peter Gold <peter@knowhowpro.com> wrote:

> Hi, Randy:
>
> Thanks for the great list of OS X database applications.
>
> It's not clear from the original poster how he was using FoxBase. It was
> patterned after Ashton-Tate&#39;s dBASE products. I've not used the Fox
> products, but if they retained the dBASE ability to use it by typing
> commands at a prompt (aka command-line querying.) These commands could also
> be collected in a file and run as a batch.
>
> Whichever way the original poster used FoxBase, the question is: does
> anyone have experience with any of these OS X database applications that
> work in one or both of these ways? Bento and FileMaker Pro don't work from
> a command line. I don't know any of the others, but I'll bet that
> ProgressSQL might, if it's like most SQL applications. dBASE commands are
> similar to SQL queries. It's worth a look.
>
> The original poster suggested an averstion to a virtual Windows solution,
> like Parallels or VMware. Is there an issue that might be overcome?
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> _______________________
> Peter Gold
> KnowHow ProServices
>
> __________________________________________________________
> > 1d. Re: Database program for OS-X
> > Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
> > Date: Mon May 27, 2013 10:39 pm ((PDT))
> >
> >
> > On May 27, 2013, at 8:13 AM, RLN37 wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
> >
> > If you can't find a Mac substitute for your Windows database program, you
> > aren't trying. There are more database choices for the Mac than for any
> > other personal computer ever.
> >
> > On the high end there is:
> >
> > FileMaker Pro
> > http://www.filemaker.com
> >
> > Panorama
> > http://www.provue.com/
> >
> > 4th Dimension
> > http://www.4d.com/products/4dv12.html
> >
> > Omnis Studio
> > http://www.tigerlogic.com/omnis/products/studio/
> >
> > Helix
> > http://www.qsatoolworks.com/product/
> >
> >
> > On the low end there is:
> >
> > NeoOffice (free/$10)
> > http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php
> > LibreOffice (free)
> > http://www.libreoffice.org
> > Apache OpenOffice (free)
> > http://www.openoffice.org/
> > (Office suites with included databases.)
> >
> > Bento $49
> > http://www.filemaker.com/products/bento/overview.html?nav=products-bento
> >
> > EagleData (free)
> > http://www.eaglesoft.de/eagle/eagledata.html
> >
> > FrontBase (free if you forego support)
> > http://www.frontbase.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/FBWebSite.woa
> >
> > Panorama Sheets ($40)
> > http://provue.com/panoramasheets/index.html
> >
> > iList Data ($70)
> > http://www.lakewoodstudios.com/ilistdata/
> >
> > iDatabase ($20)
> > http://www.apimac.com/mac/idatabase/
> >
> > iData ($70)
> > http://www.idata3.com/
> >
> > Valentina ($50)
> > http://www.paradigmasoft.com/
> > http://www.valentina-db.com/
> >
> > SuperCard $179
> > http://www.supercard.us/
> >
> > ___________________________________________
> > Randy B. Singer
> > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
> >
> > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> > ___________________________________________
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Tue May 28, 2013 1:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"bobbystar" bobbystar

On my iMac running OSX 10.8.3 and Mail ver. 6.3 I can not expand a group in the To address fields. The group name appears when I type it in but once I click on "expand" the group disappears. I do not have this problem on my MacBook Pro running similar software. There are times when I do not want to send a message to everyone in the group and I need to delete a few names.

My second question is about Junk mail. Occasionally a valid message will be sent to junk. I know that I can move the message to my inbox but is there a way to mark the message as not being spam?

TIA,

Bobby

Tue May 28, 2013 2:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

Tap the Thumbs Up icon in the mail tool bar to mark the message as not junk. If you don't have that icon, click on View>Customize Toolbar to add it.

Sent from my iPad...

On May 28, 2013, at 2:42 PM, bobbystar <bobbystar@yahoo.com> wrote:

> My second question is about Junk mail. Occasionally a valid message will be sent to junk. I know that I can move the message to my inbox but is there a way to mark the message as not being spam?

Wed May 29, 2013 2:14 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Oneal Neumann" newalander


On 2013 May 28 (at 23:53) Pat Taylor wrote:

> Tap the Thumbs Up icon in the mail tool bar to mark the message as not junk. If you don't have that icon, click on View>Customize Toolbar to add it.
>
> On May 28, 2013, at 2:42 PM, bobbystar <bobbystar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> My second question is about Junk mail. Occasionally a valid message will be sent to junk. I know that I can move the message to my inbox but is there a way to mark the message as not being spam?

Do this: Open Mail and click the Message Viewer window.

Select Mail > View > Customize Toolbar.

Find the Delete and Junk icons. Drag one or the other or both to the Message Viewer toolbar. That way the icons are present for immediate use.

The Junk icon works as a toggle. Alternate clicking will designate the chosen email either as junk or as unjunk. When the latter is chosen, the 'junked&#39; email�s color normalizes. Drag the formerly junked email out of the Junk folder to the requisite one.

Oneal

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Tue May 28, 2013 2:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"William Pontius MD" saltayre

While reading my "inbox unread email, the list of approximately 1`2-15 emails (previously read) disappeared !! This has happened before - about 4-6 months ago. I there any method of having the mail "restored as of" say 27 - 28 Nay?

Thanx

saltayre@yahoo.com

Tue May 28, 2013 8:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

I would help if you provide some more info.

What email program?

Or, are you using web mail?

What is "approximately 1'2-15 emails?" 12 to 15? 1 or 2 to 15?

Restore to 27 or 28 of May??

Do you use a Time Machine backup?

Denver Dan

On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:19:33 -0700 (PDT), William Pontius MD wrote:
> While reading my "inbox unread email, the list of approximately
> 1`2-15 emails (previously read) disappeared !! This has happened
> before - about 4-6 months ago. I there any method of having the mail
> "restored as of" say 27 - 28 Nay?
>
> Thanx

Tue May 28, 2013 4:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Ken" avliska

I have 2 dozen songs I downloaded from iTunes about 5 years ago when their songs were protected. When I check "get info" on each song, I see they are still "protected AAC audio files". They are attached to different Apple ID's now, as I bought the songs when I was at 3 different email addresses, and the Apple ID's associated with the songs indicates such.
So, how do I get the songs unprotected, and, is the fact that they are still protected a result of my moving 3 times, acquiring 3 different email addresses, and therefore, 3 different Apple ID's? Thank you.
Ken Silva
MacBook AIr
Mountain Lion 10.8.3
iTunes 11.0.2

Tue May 28, 2013 4:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bill Boulware" boulware0224

You should just be able to log in to iTunes with that ID and redownload
them but you would have to authorize that computer..

The easiest way would be to subscribe to iTunes match then "match" your
library, delete the local copies and re-download them.

Alternately you could just convert format either use iTunes to create
"mp3/aac/etc version" or burn them to a disk and re-rip the disk,.

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Ken <avlisk@cox.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I have 2 dozen songs I downloaded from iTunes about 5 years ago when their
> songs were protected. When I check "get info" on each song, I see they are
> still "protected AAC audio files". They are attached to different Apple
> ID's now, as I bought the songs when I was at 3 different email addresses,
> and the Apple ID's associated with the songs indicates such.
> So, how do I get the songs unprotected, and, is the fact that they are
> still protected a result of my moving 3 times, acquiring 3 different email
> addresses, and therefore, 3 different Apple ID's? Thank you.
> Ken Silva
> MacBook AIr
> Mountain Lion 10.8.3
> iTunes 11.0.2
>
>
>

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Wed May 29, 2013 5:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"T Hopkins" todhop

Try using the "on idle" version of the script rather than the "repeat" version. The default delay is apparently 30 seconds which is why there is no delay line in the first three line script I sent. It also seems that the app needs to be saved with as a "stay open" application.

I did not get a chance to look for my original script in the office. Will try again tomorrow.

Cheers,
tod

On May 27, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> I was trying to save it to my Applications/Utilities folder.
>
> I just save it to the Desktop and then moved it to Utilities.
>
> It's now running as a Login Item and shows up in Activity Monitor.
>
> However, when I did a shut down a few minutes ago the script didn't
> want to Quit. I couldn't quit it from the Scripts Poll menu and had
> to use Force Quit. The shut down wouldn't proceed unless this script
> was quit.
>
> Back to the drawing board! :-)
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2013 23:40:43 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> > I've got no need for this script but had no problem saving it as "untitled";
> > (although I'd normally give it a proper name, of course). Where are you
> > trying to save it?
> >
> > Otto
>

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Wed May 29, 2013 5:46 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

It looks like the modified AppleScript that I tried is doing the job.
I'll try the on idle flavor you suggested.

I have the current script optioned as "Stay Open."

I did a bunch of BD re-archiving yesterday and didn't see the new BD
burner disappear a single time and deliberately left BD discs in the
burner for several hours.

Denver Dan

On Wed, 29 May 2013 08:21:59 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
> Try using the "on idle" version of the script rather than the
> "repeat" version. The default delay is apparently 30 seconds which
> is why there is no delay line in the first three line script I sent.
> It also seems that the app needs to be saved with as a "stay open"
> application.
>
> I did not get a chance to look for my original script in the office.
> Will try again tomorrow.
>
> Cheers,
> tod

Wed May 29, 2013 6:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

We've had an interest discussion on one use for AppleScript (the
disappearing BD drive) but it occurs that there may be a lot of Mac
newbies here who might want some basic information on this topic to
help with further exploration.

This is just a basic introduction to this aspect of Macintosh to pique
interest and not a manual on how to do AppleScripting.

1. AppleScript.

This is a programming language that comes with every Mac OS system.
It's been around for many years.

Many Macintosh applications have some level of support built in for
AppleScript.

The AppleScript icon is a black scroll.

Many Macintosh applications also have the ability to use AppleScripts
that are custom created just for that application.

A very good example is iTunes. There are hundreds of AppleScripts
available to use for iTunes that can streamline, automate, and save
lots of time in dealing with tunes in iTunes.

A great web site for finding hundred of free iTunes Scripts is Doug's
Scripts. It also has info about how and where to install these
scripts.

<http://dougscripts.com/itunes/>

I use a script for iTunes called "Albumize Selection" that takes a 2,
3, or 4 disc set, for example an opera, and renumbers the songs in
order and lets you rename the album names so they are the same. A
major time saver.

Each Mac OS X system comes with pre-written scripts for use in Finder.
You can use these to automate many routines such as renaming a folder
full of files, or, adding a word or phrase to a folder full or files or
folders, and much more.

Remember that scripts for a specific application will usually have
their own install location and menu (on left side of Menu bar) while
Finder scripts have a separate menu on the Menu bar on the right side
along with Time, audio volume, Time Machine backup menu, clock, etc.

2. AppleScript Editor.

You can launch the AppleScript Editor application which is found in the
Applications/Utilities folder in recent versions of Mac OS X.

You would need to learn the AppleScript "English-like" programming
language, or, find an example of a script and copy/paste it into the
AppleScript Editor.

3. Show Script menu in Menu bar.

To use Scripts in Finder you can turn on the menu of Scripts so it
appear on the right side of your Menu bar do the following:

Launch AppleScript Editor. Open AppleScript Editor Preferences. Click
the General icon. Check on "Show Script menu in menu bar AND check on
Show Computer scripts.

A new Scripts menu (a black scroll icon) will appear on right side of
your Menu bar.

You can add scripts to this collection of Finder scripts when you find
them.

4. Automator.

Automator is an application that comes with every Mac OS X system going
back IIRC to Tiger. Automator uses a drag 'n drop visual method for
creating routine to save time. Automator can use standardized routines
and can also incorporate AppleScripts into these routines.

For example, if you routinely send attachments to the same email
address you can use Automator to make this happen automatically.
Select the attachment then invoke the Automator routine and it will
open a blank email message in Mail, attach the file, address the
message, and then send it.

5. Locations for Scripts.

There are all kinds of prewritten scripts that come with each Mac OS X
system.

One location for these is:

your computer/your hard drive/Library/Scripts

On my MacPro the following scripts folders are found in this location:

ColorSync
Finder Scripts
Folder Action Scripts
Folder Actions
Font Book
iChat
Mail Scripts
Printing Scripts
Script Editor Scripts
UI element Scripts
VoiceOver

The Finder Scripts are the ones that appear in that Scripts menu for
the Menu bar that I mentioned above.

The iTunes application scripts (as in scripts from Doug's Scripts) is
in this location:

your computer/your hard drive/Users/your account/Library/iTunes/Scripts

If there are no scripts that you have added to your iTunes program,
usually no black scroll scripts menu appears. As soon as you create a
folder in the iTunes folder named Scripts the Scripts menu appears in
iTunes.

Denver Dan

Wed May 29, 2013 6:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Ian Gillis" ianjgillis

I'm still getting acclimatised to Mountain Lion - I've now managed to
set up iCloud for most functions, including sync with the family iPad
while allowing my wife to retain her own iTunes store purchase
ability. I've got an icloud.com email address and managed to integrate
it with gmail and sync with Apple mail on both Mac and iPad.

One point puzzles me; while my Dropbox and Google Drive cloud accounts
appear as drives in the LH pane of the Finder window, the same doesn't
happen to iCloud, although it does pop up in the Apple Mail, TextEdit
and Notes app windows. Why is this and can it be added?

regards,
Ian
--
 Ian Gillis
_______________________
Mac Mini 2010 OS 10.8.3
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz
4GB RAM 500GB HD
Samsung Syncmaster 226BW
2 TB ext HD

iPad 1 16GB WiFi only iOS 5.1

Wed May 29, 2013 8:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Here's an interesting little article on one reason why FaceTime might
not work on a Mac that has had the logic board replaced.

<http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20130527122605929>

According to this article FaceTime depends on a correct serial number
in order to connect.

You can see the serial number in the System Information/System Profiler
(see About This Mac).

If the logic board was replaced and the Mac technician forgot to reset
to a new serial number FaceTime may not connect.

Denver Dan

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