5/19/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9547

12 New Messages

Digest #9547
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Re: PowerBook models and OS 9? by "Dave C" davec2468
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Re: PowerBook models and OS 9? by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: PowerBook models and OS 9? by "Barry Austern" barryaus
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Re: PowerBook models and OS 9? by "Jon Zax" jonzax_86
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Re: PowerBook models and OS 9? by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Case for my MacBook Pro 17" Any favorites? by "Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll
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Re: Application Quits on Launch by "Doyle Yoder" dypinc

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Sat May 18, 2013 7:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"DaveC" davec2468

Classic Mode. Some bells are ringing faintly. Does that require double OS install? I'll have to venture into the dark recesses of the "old Mac room" and see what CDs lurk there...

Thanks,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2013, at 11:54 PM, paul smith <kullervo@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> Does it have to actually boot OS 9? Most software should work in what used to be called Classic Mode, while booted in OS 10.

Sat May 18, 2013 8:15 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

As it happens, the G4 is too new. I need a serial port (those round DIN connectors) to talk to this peripheral. The G3 PowerBook is the last of the laptops that had this is the PowerBook G3 released September 1998.

Thanks for the pointer to MacTracker. Great resource.

Cheers,
Dave

-=-=-=-

On May 18, 2013, at 7:41 AM, DaveC wrote:

> Classic Mode. Some bells are ringing faintly. Does that require double OS install? I'll have to venture into the dark recesses of the "old Mac room" and see what CDs lurk there...
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2013, at 11:54 PM, paul smith <kullervo@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Does it have to actually boot OS 9? Most software should work in what used to be called Classic Mode, while booted in OS 10.

Sat May 18, 2013 9:08 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup

I have (or had?) an adapter that converted ADB to USB. Here's an example:
<http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=adb+usb&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=8207756305&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7925242511731501364&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_6o4b3zhowg_b>

Might that help?

Daly

On May 18, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Dave C wrote:

> As it happens, the G4 is too new. I need a serial port (those round DIN connectors) to talk to this peripheral. The G3 PowerBook is the last of the laptops that had this is the PowerBook G3 released September 1998.
>
> Thanks for the pointer to MacTracker. Great resource.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> -=-=-=-
>
> On May 18, 2013, at 7:41 AM, DaveC wrote:
>
>> Classic Mode. Some bells are ringing faintly. Does that require double OS install? I'll have to venture into the dark recesses of the "old Mac room" and see what CDs lurk there...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2013, at 11:54 PM, paul smith <kullervo@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does it have to actually boot OS 9? Most software should work in what used to be called Classic Mode, while booted in OS 10.
>
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Sat May 18, 2013 10:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"DaveC" davec2468

The PB G4 has USB. I'm looking into a USB-serial adapter.

Thanks,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:

> I have (or had?) an adapter that converted ADB to USB.

Sat May 18, 2013 11:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus


On May 18, 2013, at 2:22 AM, Dave C wrote:

> I have need to run some OS 9-only software. A friend has an old aluminum PowerBook G4 (specs unspecified currently).
>
> Once I know more details about the PB, how can I know if it will boot OS 9?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave

It won't, but if you don't go beyond 10.4 Jaguar you can run Classic applications under OS-X.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Sat May 18, 2013 2:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jon Zax" jonzax_86

I have a 700 ? mhz Blue G4 running OS 9.2. Mostly it's for driving an
"obsolete"; scanner but I've taken advantage of the situation to run
some nice old software, Texture generators, fractal programs and 3D
software that were never supported past OS9.
These computers can be had for a song.

Sat May 18, 2013 8:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

I think the last PowerBook laptop models that could run Mac OS 9 in
Classic mode were:

PowerBook G4/1.5 12-Inch (Al)
PowerBook G4/1.67 15-Inch (DLSD/HR - Al)
PowerBook G4/1.67 17-Inch (DLSD/HR - Al)

These 3 models may not have a DIN/Serial port and you may need to track
down a G3 model to find that.

Look for a PowerBook G3 Series (September 1998) to find one with an ADB
and a DIN/Serial port as well as the miniature SCSI HDI-30 port.

You can still share this old laptop on an Ethernet network but the
PowerBook G3 Series mentioned above only has Ethernet 10BaseT so be
sure you have an Ethernet Switch and not an Ethernet Hub or everything
on a Hub will slow to the 10BaseT speed. I don't think you could share
this Mac on Ethernet via AppleTalk with a Mac OS X 10.7 or 10.8 Lion or
Mountain Lion Mac. There is another way to share this era Mac without
using AppleTalk but it's been so long since I've thought about it I
can't remember the name or term but it's done in a Control Panel.

You would need to install Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger in order to also
install and run Mac OS 9 in Classic mode. Classic mode won't work in
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard or higher.

Using Classic mode you boot the Mac in Mac OS X and then boot the Mac
OS 9 part using a System Preference Panel for Classic. This same
Classic Panel provides several routine Mac OS 9 functions such as
Rebuilding the Desktop.

Both Mac OS X and Mac OS 9 run at the same time.

You would need to find a Mac OS 9.0 system installer or, IIRC, there is
a Mac OS 9.1 installer CD disc.

Then you would need to find the updaters I listed below and update to
get to the very last Mac OS 9 iteration which was Mac OS 9.2.2.

-CarbonLib 1.6
-Mac OS 9 Audio Update 1.2
-Mac OS 9.0.4 Update
-Mac OS 9.1 Update
-Mac OS 9.2.1 Update
-Mac OS 9.2.2 Update
-OpenGL 1.2.1
-Software Update 1.1.1
-URL Access Install (I don't remember what this updater does)
-USB Car Support 1.4.1

If interested, I have a PowerBook G3 Wall Street which has ADB, the
SCSI HDI-30 mini port, and a serial port which I'd be delighted to
sell. I has all the bells and whistles including two hot swappable
interchangeable bays. The two bays can hold two batteries (doubles run
time on battery), or one battery and one floppy drive, or one battery
and one CD drive, or remove the battery and have a floppy drive and a
CD drive. I have both the floppy and the CD drives. The battery is no
longer chargeable. I think this is the 250 MHz processor model but I'm
not sure. I think a DVD-ROM was also available for the swap bay but I
don't have one. This May 1998 model PowerBook can't run Mac OS X.

Denver Dan

On Fri, 17 May 2013 23:22:56 -0700, Dave C wrote:
> I have need to run some OS 9-only software. A friend has an old
> aluminum PowerBook G4 (specs unspecified currently).
>
> Once I know more details about the PB, how can I know if it will boot OS 9?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>

Sat May 18, 2013 11:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Hey Dave, instead of us guessing, why don't you just tell us what you are trying to do?

On May 18, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Dave C wrote:

As it happens, the G4 is too new. I need a serial port (those round DIN connectors) to talk to this peripheral. The G3 PowerBook is the last of the laptops that had this is the PowerBook G3 released September 1998.

Thanks for the pointer to MacTracker. Great resource.

Cheers,
Dave

-=-=-=-

On May 18, 2013, at 7:41 AM, DaveC wrote:

> Classic Mode. Some bells are ringing faintly. Does that require double OS install? I'll have to venture into the dark recesses of the "old Mac room" and see what CDs lurk there...
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2013, at 11:54 PM, paul smith <kullervo@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Does it have to actually boot OS 9? Most software should work in what used to be called Classic Mode, while booted in OS 10.

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Sat May 18, 2013 9:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Charles Carroll" charlesmarkcarroll

I went with
http://www.brenthaven.com/landing-page/kona-project-2-messenger-bag-blue
thanks to advice of everyone here.

http://www.tombihn.com/laptop_bags/TB0950.html
was my runner up!

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net> wrote:
> I have used a Tumi leather soft sided briefcase for the last 15+ years. It has a special compartment to protect computers and plenty of space. I'm not sure the style I have is still available but it has done a terrific job of protecting my G4 powerbook (personal) as well as a work laptop that I carried. I kept the G4 in the special compartment and put the other work laptop in the main compartment.
>
> Have had the bag drop from top of tables, out of overhead compartments, etc and never had a problem with anything breaking.
>
> Only drawback is that it allows me to stuff too much into the bag.
>
> Jay
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Charles Carroll wrote:
>
>> I have a MacBook Pro Retina and I want something to carry it in with
>> plenty of room for other goodies: magazines, maybe some puches and
>> pockets for cables, phone, Kindles, iPad.
>>
>> Do any of you have a favorite case (I don't like backpacks i prefer
>> more briefcase style but I might be swayed) that is tough and fits the
>> MacBook well with room for more stuff I always have a lot of stuff to
>> carry on my 1.5 hour commute on train and subway.
>>
>> Tomorrow is pay day so I wanted to order a case this weekend or no
>> later than Monday night.
>>
>
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Sun May 19, 2013 5:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:

mstupinski

I've been having a problem with my 'Reunion&#39; genealogy application since a couple of days ago. This only happens with this app, so far at least. Whenever I try to launch it, it quits and I get a window 'Problem Report for Reunion'. That report is quite long, but perhaps the following extract will help in solving this:

"Process: Reunion 10 [6551]
Path: /Applications/Reunion 10.app/Contents/MacOS/Reunion 10
Identifier: com.leisterpro.reunion10
Version: 10.0.6 (1.0)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [181]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2013-05-19 08:31:53.850 -0400
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.8.3 (12D78)
Report Version: 10

Interval Since Last Report: 13788 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 4
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 39 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 4
Anonymous UUID: 2BD00E39-8377-F76B-5581-8D8FB6A1F0BE

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000073007000

VM Regions Near 0x73007000:
__LINKEDIT 0000000064b08000-0000000064b0e000 [ 24K] r--/rwx SM=COW /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print
-->
__TEXT 000000008fe51000-000000008fe84000 [ 204K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /usr/lib/dyld

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x02a1ace6 CFStringCompareWithOptionsAndLocale + 38
........"

Other details: 21.5", mid-2011 iMac, OS 10.8.3, 2.8GHz, i7 Core, 16GB memory.

All memory appears to be recognized per 'About this Mac.' I've tried restarting, deleting preferences, Safe Boot, and running Repair Disk with no success.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
..................Mike

Sun May 19, 2013 7:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:

imamacwizard

Have you reported this to LeisterPro.com? They may have a solution?

Dave

On May 19, 2013, at 5:54 AM, stupnski@tiac.net wrote:

> I've been having a problem with my 'Reunion&#39; genealogy application since a couple of days ago. This only happens with this app, so far at least. Whenever I try to launch it, it quits and I get a window 'Problem Report for Reunion'. That report is quite long, but perhaps the following extract will help in solving this:
>
> "Process: Reunion 10 [6551]
> Path: /Applications/Reunion 10.app/Contents/MacOS/Reunion 10
> Identifier: com.leisterpro.reunion10
> Version: 10.0.6 (1.0)
> Code Type: X86 (Native)
> Parent Process: launchd [181]
> User ID: 501
>
> Date/Time: 2013-05-19 08:31:53.850 -0400
> OS Version: Mac OS X 10.8.3 (12D78)
> Report Version: 10
>
> Interval Since Last Report: 13788 sec
> Crashes Since Last Report: 4
> Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 39 sec
> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 4
> Anonymous UUID: 2BD00E39-8377-F76B-5581-8D8FB6A1F0BE
>
> Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>
> Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
> Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000073007000
>
> VM Regions Near 0x73007000:
> __LINKEDIT 0000000064b08000-0000000064b0e000 [ 24K] r--/rwx SM=COW /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print
> -->
> __TEXT 000000008fe51000-000000008fe84000 [ 204K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /usr/lib/dyld
>
> Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x02a1ace6 CFStringCompareWithOptionsAndLocale + 38
> ........"
>
> Other details: 21.5", mid-2011 iMac, OS 10.8.3, 2.8GHz, i7 Core, 16GB memory.
>
> All memory appears to be recognized per 'About this Mac.' I've tried restarting, deleting preferences, Safe Boot, and running Repair Disk with no success.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> ..................Mike
>
>
>

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Sun May 19, 2013 7:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Doyle Yoder" dypinc

Did you run Repair Disk Permissions?

Doyle

On May 19, 2013, at 8:54 AM, stupnski@tiac.net wrote:

> I've been having a problem with my 'Reunion&#39; genealogy application since a couple of days ago. This only happens with this app, so far at least. Whenever I try to launch it, it quits and I get a window 'Problem Report for Reunion'. That report is quite long, but perhaps the following extract will help in solving this:
>
> "Process: Reunion 10 [6551]
> Path: /Applications/Reunion 10.app/Contents/MacOS/Reunion 10
> Identifier: com.leisterpro.reunion10
> Version: 10.0.6 (1.0)
> Code Type: X86 (Native)
> Parent Process: launchd [181]
> User ID: 501
>
> Date/Time: 2013-05-19 08:31:53.850 -0400
> OS Version: Mac OS X 10.8.3 (12D78)
> Report Version: 10
>
> Interval Since Last Report: 13788 sec
> Crashes Since Last Report: 4
> Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 39 sec
> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 4
> Anonymous UUID: 2BD00E39-8377-F76B-5581-8D8FB6A1F0BE
>
> Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>
> Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
> Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000073007000
>
> VM Regions Near 0x73007000:
> __LINKEDIT 0000000064b08000-0000000064b0e000 [ 24K] r--/rwx SM=COW /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print
> -->
> __TEXT 000000008fe51000-000000008fe84000 [ 204K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /usr/lib/dyld
>
> Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x02a1ace6 CFStringCompareWithOptionsAndLocale + 38
> ........"
>
> Other details: 21.5", mid-2011 iMac, OS 10.8.3, 2.8GHz, i7 Core, 16GB memory.
>
> All memory appears to be recognized per 'About this Mac.' I've tried restarting, deleting preferences, Safe Boot, and running Repair Disk with no success.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> ..................Mike

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