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Mon May 27, 2013 8:13 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"RLN37" RLN37
I'm a relatively new Apple user, converted from (ugh) Windows, after I finally wised up.
There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows. I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit awkward, and has some practical problems.
Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
Thanks for the advice.
Baseball Bob
There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows. I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit awkward, and has some practical problems.
Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
Thanks for the advice.
Baseball Bob
Mon May 27, 2013 10:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Not being familiar with Foxbase, I had to look it up. Wikipedia says that MS Fox Pro 2.6 is compatible with Mac OS X. It doesn't say what version of OS X, and since 10.7 there have been lots of old apps that no longer work in 10.7 or beyond.
Not knowing the features you like about Foxbase, there is also Numbers (about $30) or Office for Mac and Excel (between $100 - 200 for the suite). Most all of the other free suites use Java, which Apple is trying to eliminate, so I don't suggest going in that direction, unless you enjoy converting data between apps.
FoxBASE is from 1984 to 1992. It is time to convert over to an app that is 20 years younger. But then again that was the purpose of your post.
Good luck, that is going to be one helluva data conversion. And with that old a database, I'm sure the best way will be with csv, which leaves behind the formatting.
Brent
On May 27, 2013, at 8:13 AM, RLN37 wrote:
I'm a relatively new Apple user, converted from (ugh) Windows, after I finally wised up.
There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows. I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit awkward, and has some practical problems.
Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
Thanks for the advice.
Baseball Bob
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Not knowing the features you like about Foxbase, there is also Numbers (about $30) or Office for Mac and Excel (between $100 - 200 for the suite). Most all of the other free suites use Java, which Apple is trying to eliminate, so I don't suggest going in that direction, unless you enjoy converting data between apps.
FoxBASE is from 1984 to 1992. It is time to convert over to an app that is 20 years younger. But then again that was the purpose of your post.
Good luck, that is going to be one helluva data conversion. And with that old a database, I'm sure the best way will be with csv, which leaves behind the formatting.
Brent
On May 27, 2013, at 8:13 AM, RLN37 wrote:
I'm a relatively new Apple user, converted from (ugh) Windows, after I finally wised up.
There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows. I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit awkward, and has some practical problems.
Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
Thanks for the advice.
Baseball Bob
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Mon May 27, 2013 10:48 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
What options does FoxBase have for exporting data? Any?
Otto
On 27 May 2013 16:13, RLN37 <rln37@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I'm a relatively new Apple user, converted from (ugh) Windows, after I
> finally wised up.
>
> There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily
> give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great
> database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog
> Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by
> an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by
> Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows.
> I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of
> OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit
> awkward, and has some practical problems.
>
> Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
> Thanks for the advice.
>
>
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Otto
On 27 May 2013 16:13, RLN37 <rln37@yahoo.
> I'm a relatively new Apple user, converted from (ugh) Windows, after I
> finally wised up.
>
> There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily
> give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great
> database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog
> Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by
> an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by
> Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows.
> I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of
> OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit
> awkward, and has some practical problems.
>
> Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
> Thanks for the advice.
>
>
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Mon May 27, 2013 10:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Earle Jones" earlejones501
On May 27, 13, at 8:13 AM, RLN37 <rln37@yahoo.
> I'm a relatively new Apple user, converted from (ugh) Windows, after I finally wised up.
>
> There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows. I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit awkward, and has some practical problems.
>
> Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Baseball Bob
>
*
Bob: The standard dbase program for Mac is "FileMaker Pro". Take a look at:
http://www.filemake
The 'Pro' version is fairly expensive. You might start out with FileMaker'
Good luck!
earle
*
____________
Earle Jones
501 Portola Road #8008
Portola Valley CA 94028
Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
earle.jones@
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Mon May 27, 2013 11:18 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows. I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit awkward, and has some practical problems.
>>
>> Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
>
> Bob: The standard dbase program for Mac is "FileMaker Pro".
Filemaker Pro is a relational database program; my reading suggests that FoxBase was a "flat-file" database.
FMPro would be expensive overkill as a replacement for FB; I would consider Bento ($50 in the Mac App Store). I would be surprised if FoxBase were unable to export as .CSV, and I'm reasonably sure Bento can import that.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>>
>> Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
>
> Bob: The standard dbase program for Mac is "FileMaker Pro".
Filemaker Pro is a relational database program; my reading suggests that FoxBase was a "flat-file&quo
FMPro would be expensive overkill as a replacement for FB; I would consider Bento ($50 in the Mac App Store). I would be surprised if FoxBase were unable to export as .CSV, and I'm reasonably sure Bento can import that.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Mon May 27, 2013 4:15 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Christopher Collins" cjc1959au
There are none. I would start looking at using an open source SQL database like MySQL or the other one whose name escapes me!
That way, you'll always be safe.
cjc
On 28/05/2013, at 1:13 AM, RLN37 <rln37@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I'm a relatively new Apple user, converted from (ugh) Windows, after I finally wised up.
>
> There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows. I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit awkward, and has some practical problems.
>
> Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Baseball Bob
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That way, you'll always be safe.
cjc
On 28/05/2013, at 1:13 AM, RLN37 <rln37@yahoo.
> I'm a relatively new Apple user, converted from (ugh) Windows, after I finally wised up.
>
> There is one program I have used in Windows, however, that I cannot easily give up. It is a database program called Foxbase. Foxbase is a great database program for many uses. For example, I use it to manage a bog Little League program (well over a thousand players). Fox was developed by an independent programmer many years ago, but unfortunately purchased by Microsoft, and effectively buried. Though it still runs fine in Windows. I'd like to give it up, and go to something just as elegant in the land of OS-X. Right now I run Fox under VMware on my Apple, but that is a bit awkward, and has some practical problems.
>
> Does anyone know a good OS-X substitute for Foxbase?
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Baseball Bob
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Mon May 27, 2013 11:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
I used to receive the same blank docs from Yahoo Mail. I never knew where they came from, nor figured out how to stop them, but since moving to Mountain Lion and using new Yahoo Mail rather than old classic, I no longer get the blank docs. But being Yahoo, I won't be surprised if they ever show up once again sometime.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Dave C <davec2468@...> wrote:
>
> Occasionally I'm receiving empty messages from my account on the Yahoo mail server.
>
> The messages have headers but nothing in the message body. If I go to Yahoo and mark it as "not read" and re-download, it arrives complete.
>
> Anyone else have a similar experience?
>
> It's a "classic" -- free (not "Mail Plus") -- account.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> Mail 4.6
> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
> 2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Occasionally I'm receiving empty messages from my account on the Yahoo mail server.
>
> The messages have headers but nothing in the message body. If I go to Yahoo and mark it as "not read" and re-download, it arrives complete.
>
> Anyone else have a similar experience?
>
> It's a "classic" -- free (not "Mail Plus") -- account.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> Mail 4.6
> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
> 2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Mon May 27, 2013 12:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Excellent info and thanks.
I'll try the polling script.
When I first added a BD burner about two years ago I ordered a Pioneer
brand from OWC. Both a 1st and a 2nd unit shipped by OWC were
defective. OWC was very good about sending replacements and helping
with tech support.
Twice burned so the 3rd time I ordered an LG brand which worked fine
until it's untimely death a week ago. So I'm back to Pioneer and this
odd disappearing act.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 09:53:28 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
> I think this is the trick I used or something like it.
>
> "I've done further research and have a workable solution, so far so
> good, after 2 days. Open Apple script, enter the following code,
>
> on idle
> do shell script "drutil info"
> end idle
>
> Go to File> Save as, application, name the file BDR-205 poll tick the
> box stay open and save. I saved mine in the Utilities folder.
> Next go to System Preferences, open accounts, select your account,
> select Login items, click the + box, navigate to the Utilities folder
> and select BDR-205 poll, click the padlock symbol, to save your
> changes. Exit System Preferences. Shut your machine down, do a cold
> boot. Upon startup, the script will be active, you'll see it in the
> right side of the dock. What this does is poll your drive every 30 sec
> so it can't go to sleep. The only other thing is to purchase a
> different drive other than Pioneer, it's too bad Apple doesn't put a
> better DVD drive in the Macpro, but then again they make sure the
> original doesn't have this problem. This is a sleep issue in energy
> saver and the sata ports and how it interacts with certain DVD
> drives. Hope this helps."
>
> From: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2736635?start=0&tstart=0
>
> I don't remember that anything was visible. There may be a way to
> make this script run silently.
>
> Also see this longer discussion of the same keep-alive script trick
> (you need to scroll down the page slightly). It is possible to set a
> longer poll time. The default is 30 seconds.
> http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/archives/dec09/122109.html
>
> Again, I'll check my notes at work and see if I have anything
> better. Who knows. Maybe I never really "fixed" it. It's an oddly
> sporadic problem. Not everyone has it, though it is common.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
Excellent info and thanks.
I'll try the polling script.
When I first added a BD burner about two years ago I ordered a Pioneer
brand from OWC. Both a 1st and a 2nd unit shipped by OWC were
defective. OWC was very good about sending replacements and helping
with tech support.
Twice burned so the 3rd time I ordered an LG brand which worked fine
until it's untimely death a week ago. So I'm back to Pioneer and this
odd disappearing act.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 09:53:28 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
> I think this is the trick I used or something like it.
>
> "I'
> good, after 2 days. Open Apple script, enter the following code,
>
> on idle
> do shell script "drutil info"
> end idle
>
> Go to File> Save as, application, name the file BDR-205 poll tick the
> box stay open and save. I saved mine in the Utilities folder.
> Next go to System Preferences, open accounts, select your account,
> select Login items, click the + box, navigate to the Utilities folder
> and select BDR-205 poll, click the padlock symbol, to save your
> changes. Exit System Preferences. Shut your machine down, do a cold
> boot. Upon startup, the script will be active, you'll see it in the
> right side of the dock. What this does is poll your drive every 30 sec
> so it can't go to sleep. The only other thing is to purchase a
> different drive other than Pioneer, it's too bad Apple doesn't put a
> better DVD drive in the Macpro, but then again they make sure the
> original doesn't have this problem. This is a sleep issue in energy
> saver and the sata ports and how it interacts with certain DVD
> drives. Hope this helps."
>
> From: https://discussions
>
> I don't remember that anything was visible. There may be a way to
> make this script run silently.
>
> Also see this longer discussion of the same keep-alive script trick
> (you need to scroll down the page slightly). It is possible to set a
> longer poll time. The default is 30 seconds.
> http://www.xlr8your
>
> Again, I'll check my notes at work and see if I have anything
> better. Who knows. Maybe I never really "fixed" it. It's an oddly
> sporadic problem. Not everyone has it, though it is common.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
Mon May 27, 2013 1:15 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Question about this script application.
The script uses the file name BDR-205 poll.
I assume the "BDR-205" refers to a Pioneer BD 205 model.
The new Pioneer BD burner I just installed is a "BDR-208D"; model.
Does the script file name make a difference in the script working?
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 09:53:28 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
> I think this is the trick I used or something like it.
>
> "I've done further research and have a workable solution, so far so
> good, after 2 days. Open Apple script, enter the following code,
>
> on idle
> do shell script "drutil info"
> end idle
>
> Go to File> Save as, application, name the file BDR-205 poll tick the
> box stay open and save. I saved mine in the Utilities folder.
> Next go to System Preferences, open accounts, select your account,
> select Login items, click the + box, navigate to the Utilities folder
> and select BDR-205 poll, click the padlock symbol, to save your
> changes. Exit System Preferences. Shut your machine down, do a cold
> boot. Upon startup, the script will be active, you'll see it in the
> right side of the dock. What this does is poll your drive every 30 sec
> so it can't go to sleep. The only other thing is to purchase a
> different drive other than Pioneer, it's too bad Apple doesn't put a
> better DVD drive in the Macpro, but then again they make sure the
> original doesn't have this problem. This is a sleep issue in energy
> saver and the sata ports and how it interacts with certain DVD
> drives. Hope this helps."
>
> From: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2736635?start=0&tstart=0
>
> I don't remember that anything was visible. There may be a way to
> make this script run silently.
>
> Also see this longer discussion of the same keep-alive script trick
> (you need to scroll down the page slightly). It is possible to set a
> longer poll time. The default is 30 seconds.
> http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/archives/dec09/122109.html
>
> Again, I'll check my notes at work and see if I have anything
> better. Who knows. Maybe I never really "fixed" it. It's an oddly
> sporadic problem. Not everyone has it, though it is common.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> On May 26, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Here's something inconvenient and weird.
>>
>> I recently replaced a LG brand internal (2nd / lower bay) BluRay
>> optical burner in my MacPro. The LG stopped working last week.
>>
>
Question about this script application.
The script uses the file name BDR-205 poll.
I assume the "BDR-205" refers to a Pioneer BD 205 model.
The new Pioneer BD burner I just installed is a "BDR-208D"
Does the script file name make a difference in the script working?
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 09:53:28 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
> I think this is the trick I used or something like it.
>
> "I'
> good, after 2 days. Open Apple script, enter the following code,
>
> on idle
> do shell script "drutil info"
> end idle
>
> Go to File> Save as, application, name the file BDR-205 poll tick the
> box stay open and save. I saved mine in the Utilities folder.
> Next go to System Preferences, open accounts, select your account,
> select Login items, click the + box, navigate to the Utilities folder
> and select BDR-205 poll, click the padlock symbol, to save your
> changes. Exit System Preferences. Shut your machine down, do a cold
> boot. Upon startup, the script will be active, you'll see it in the
> right side of the dock. What this does is poll your drive every 30 sec
> so it can't go to sleep. The only other thing is to purchase a
> different drive other than Pioneer, it's too bad Apple doesn't put a
> better DVD drive in the Macpro, but then again they make sure the
> original doesn't have this problem. This is a sleep issue in energy
> saver and the sata ports and how it interacts with certain DVD
> drives. Hope this helps."
>
> From: https://discussions
>
> I don't remember that anything was visible. There may be a way to
> make this script run silently.
>
> Also see this longer discussion of the same keep-alive script trick
> (you need to scroll down the page slightly). It is possible to set a
> longer poll time. The default is 30 seconds.
> http://www.xlr8your
>
> Again, I'll check my notes at work and see if I have anything
> better. Who knows. Maybe I never really "fixed" it. It's an oddly
> sporadic problem. Not everyone has it, though it is common.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> On May 26, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Here's something inconvenient and weird.
>>
>> I recently replaced a LG brand internal (2nd / lower bay) BluRay
>> optical burner in my MacPro. The LG stopped working last week.
>>
>
Mon May 27, 2013 1:22 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
I just tried this and got an error message when trying to Save as
Application (and as a Script) in Script Editor that
<<The document "Untitled"; could not be saved as "Untitled.app". >>
Any thoughts?
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 09:53:28 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
> I think this is the trick I used or something like it.
>
> "I've done further research and have a workable solution, so far so
> good, after 2 days. Open Apple script, enter the following code,
>
> on idle
> do shell script "drutil info"
> end idle
>
> Go to File> Save as, application, name the file BDR-205 poll tick the
> box stay open and save. I saved mine in the Utilities folder.
> Next go to System Preferences, open accounts, select your account,
> select Login items, click the + box, navigate to the Utilities folder
> and select BDR-205 poll, click the padlock symbol, to save your
> changes. Exit System Preferences. Shut your machine down, do a cold
> boot. Upon startup, the script will be active, you'll see it in the
> right side of the dock. What this does is poll your drive every 30 sec
> so it can't go to sleep. The only other thing is to purchase a
> different drive other than Pioneer, it's too bad Apple doesn't put a
> better DVD drive in the Macpro, but then again they make sure the
> original doesn't have this problem. This is a sleep issue in energy
> saver and the sata ports and how it interacts with certain DVD
> drives. Hope this helps."
I just tried this and got an error message when trying to Save as
Application (and as a Script) in Script Editor that
<<The document "Untitled"
Any thoughts?
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 09:53:28 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
> I think this is the trick I used or something like it.
>
> "I'
> good, after 2 days. Open Apple script, enter the following code,
>
> on idle
> do shell script "drutil info"
> end idle
>
> Go to File> Save as, application, name the file BDR-205 poll tick the
> box stay open and save. I saved mine in the Utilities folder.
> Next go to System Preferences, open accounts, select your account,
> select Login items, click the + box, navigate to the Utilities folder
> and select BDR-205 poll, click the padlock symbol, to save your
> changes. Exit System Preferences. Shut your machine down, do a cold
> boot. Upon startup, the script will be active, you'll see it in the
> right side of the dock. What this does is poll your drive every 30 sec
> so it can't go to sleep. The only other thing is to purchase a
> different drive other than Pioneer, it's too bad Apple doesn't put a
> better DVD drive in the Macpro, but then again they make sure the
> original doesn't have this problem. This is a sleep issue in energy
> saver and the sata ports and how it interacts with certain DVD
> drives. Hope this helps."
Mon May 27, 2013 2:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
I just found this script and tried it.
repeat
do shell script "drutil info"
delay 28
end repeat
Still get an error message when trying to save. So I can't save it as
anything.
But I clicked the Run button on AppleScript Editor's Toolbar and it
says this script is running.
I'll try to see if this works as a test - - leaving AppleScript open
and running this script - - and insert a BD disc and see what happens.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:22:32 -0400, Denver Dan wrote:
> I just tried this and got an error message when trying to Save as
> Application (and as a Script) in Script Editor that
>
> <<The document "Untitled"; could not be saved as "Untitled.app". >>
>
> Any thoughts?
I just found this script and tried it.
repeat
do shell script "drutil info"
delay 28
end repeat
Still get an error message when trying to save. So I can't save it as
anything.
But I clicked the Run button on AppleScript Editor's Toolbar and it
says this script is running.
I'll try to see if this works as a test - - leaving AppleScript open
and running this script - - and insert a BD disc and see what happens.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:22:32 -0400, Denver Dan wrote:
> I just tried this and got an error message when trying to Save as
> Application (and as a Script) in Script Editor that
>
> <<The document "Untitled"
>
> Any thoughts?
Mon May 27, 2013 2:49 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
The script name shouldn't matter. The purpose of the script is to run the drutil utility, which merely polls all your drives. You can also get apps that are supposed to keep drives awake, but the apps I've tried skip drives that aren't mounted which doesn't work for an optical with no disc.
I can't check what I'm running at work until tomorrow, but the second link in my original email goes to a discussion of variations on the same script. It seems to work better to use "idle" instead of repeat. Not sure about the saving problem. I would suspect an authorization problem first. Are you running as admin? Applescript may not work right unless you are. You might also try placing the script inside an Automator app if you are familiar with such things. I think this may be how I'm running it.
I have never seen an explanation of what is actually happening with the Pioneer drives, particularly the 205/208 drives. It can happen with other brands. I've been told that newer firmware fixes the problem but could never test this. I think you've tested for me. ;)
I no longer purchase the Pioneers for my Macs.
Cheers,
tod
On May 27, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I just found this script and tried it.
>
> repeat
> do shell script "drutil info"
> delay 28
> end repeat
>
> Still get an error message when trying to save. So I can't save it as
> anything.
>
> But I clicked the Run button on AppleScript Editor's Toolbar and it
> says this script is running.
>
> I'll try to see if this works as a test - - leaving AppleScript open
> and running this script - - and insert a BD disc and see what happens.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:22:32 -0400, Denver Dan wrote:
> > I just tried this and got an error message when trying to Save as
> > Application (and as a Script) in Script Editor that
> >
> > <<The document "Untitled"; could not be saved as "Untitled.app". >>
> >
> > Any thoughts?
>
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I can't check what I'm running at work until tomorrow, but the second link in my original email goes to a discussion of variations on the same script. It seems to work better to use "idle" instead of repeat. Not sure about the saving problem. I would suspect an authorization problem first. Are you running as admin? Applescript may not work right unless you are. You might also try placing the script inside an Automator app if you are familiar with such things. I think this may be how I'm running it.
I have never seen an explanation of what is actually happening with the Pioneer drives, particularly the 205/208 drives. It can happen with other brands. I've been told that newer firmware fixes the problem but could never test this. I think you've tested for me. ;)
I no longer purchase the Pioneers for my Macs.
Cheers,
tod
On May 27, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I just found this script and tried it.
>
> repeat
> do shell script "drutil info"
> delay 28
> end repeat
>
> Still get an error message when trying to save. So I can't save it as
> anything.
>
> But I clicked the Run button on AppleScript Editor's Toolbar and it
> says this script is running.
>
> I'll try to see if this works as a test - - leaving AppleScript open
> and running this script - - and insert a BD disc and see what happens.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:22:32 -0400, Denver Dan wrote:
> > I just tried this and got an error message when trying to Save as
> > Application (and as a Script) in Script Editor that
> >
> > <<The document "Untitled"
> >
> > Any thoughts?
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mon May 27, 2013 3:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Thanks again for info.
I ran the script in AppleScript Editor and it seems to have worked.
Tried two different periods with a BD disc inserted and it didn't
disappear.
Just tried saving the script to Desktop as an app and that worked.
Something odd about my Utilities folder permissions I think. I always
run as Admin.
I have a bit of experience with Automator.
I've just dragged the script app back to the Utilities folder and added
it to Login Items. We'll see what happens after a restart.
Pioneer may have a firmware update for the Pioneer BDR-205 model but
not for the BDR-208 model.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 17:49:39 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
> The script name shouldn't matter. The purpose of the script is to
> run the drutil utility, which merely polls all your drives. You can
> also get apps that are supposed to keep drives awake, but the apps
> I've tried skip drives that aren't mounted which doesn't work for an
> optical with no disc.
>
> I can't check what I'm running at work until tomorrow, but the second
> link in my original email goes to a discussion of variations on the
> same script. It seems to work better to use "idle" instead of
> repeat. Not sure about the saving problem. I would suspect an
> authorization problem first. Are you running as admin? Applescript
> may not work right unless you are. You might also try placing the
> script inside an Automator app if you are familiar with such things.
> I think this may be how I'm running it.
>
> I have never seen an explanation of what is actually happening with
> the Pioneer drives, particularly the 205/208 drives. It can happen
> with other brands. I've been told that newer firmware fixes the
> problem but could never test this. I think you've tested for me. ;)
>
> I no longer purchase the Pioneers for my Macs.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
Thanks again for info.
I ran the script in AppleScript Editor and it seems to have worked.
Tried two different periods with a BD disc inserted and it didn't
disappear.
Just tried saving the script to Desktop as an app and that worked.
Something odd about my Utilities folder permissions I think. I always
run as Admin.
I have a bit of experience with Automator.
I've just dragged the script app back to the Utilities folder and added
it to Login Items. We'll see what happens after a restart.
Pioneer may have a firmware update for the Pioneer BDR-205 model but
not for the BDR-208 model.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 17:49:39 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
> The script name shouldn'
> run the drutil utility, which merely polls all your drives. You can
> also get apps that are supposed to keep drives awake, but the apps
> I've tried skip drives that aren't mounted which doesn't work for an
> optical with no disc.
>
> I can't check what I'm running at work until tomorrow, but the second
> link in my original email goes to a discussion of variations on the
> same script. It seems to work better to use "idle" instead of
> repeat. Not sure about the saving problem. I would suspect an
> authorization problem first. Are you running as admin? Applescript
> may not work right unless you are. You might also try placing the
> script inside an Automator app if you are familiar with such things.
> I think this may be how I'm running it.
>
> I have never seen an explanation of what is actually happening with
> the Pioneer drives, particularly the 205/208 drives. It can happen
> with other brands. I've been told that newer firmware fixes the
> problem but could never test this. I think you've tested for me. ;)
>
> I no longer purchase the Pioneers for my Macs.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
Mon May 27, 2013 3:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Hi Dan,
I've got no need for this script but had no problem saving it as "untitled";
(although I'd normally give it a proper name, of course). Where are you
trying to save it?
Otto
On 27 May 2013 22:07, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I just found this script and tried it.
>
> repeat
> do shell script "drutil info"
> delay 28
> end repeat
>
> Still get an error message when trying to save. So I can't save it as
> anything.
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I've got no need for this script but had no problem saving it as "untitled"
(although I'd normally give it a proper name, of course). Where are you
trying to save it?
Otto
On 27 May 2013 22:07, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Howdy.
>
> I just found this script and tried it.
>
> repeat
> do shell script "drutil info"
> delay 28
> end repeat
>
> Still get an error message when trying to save. So I can't save it as
> anything.
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mon May 27, 2013 4:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
I was trying to save it to my Applications/Utilities folder.
I just save it to the Desktop and then moved it to Utilities.
It's now running as a Login Item and shows up in Activity Monitor.
However, when I did a shut down a few minutes ago the script didn't
want to Quit. I couldn't quit it from the Scripts Poll menu and had
to use Force Quit. The shut down wouldn't proceed unless this script
was quit.
Back to the drawing board! :-)
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 23:40:43 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> I've got no need for this script but had no problem saving it as "untitled";
> (although I'd normally give it a proper name, of course). Where are you
> trying to save it?
>
> Otto
I was trying to save it to my Applications/
I just save it to the Desktop and then moved it to Utilities.
It's now running as a Login Item and shows up in Activity Monitor.
However, when I did a shut down a few minutes ago the script didn't
want to Quit. I couldn't quit it from the Scripts Poll menu and had
to use Force Quit. The shut down wouldn't proceed unless this script
was quit.
Back to the drawing board! :-)
Denver Dan
On Mon, 27 May 2013 23:40:43 +0100, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> I've got no need for this script but had no problem saving it as "untitled"
> (although I'd normally give it a proper name, of course). Where are you
> trying to save it?
>
> Otto
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