5/09/2012

[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2995

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1.1.

Re: apple id confirmation

Posted by: "Sanjaya Kanoria" wsbunter@gmail.com   zixxwr

Tue May 8, 2012 3:29 am (PDT)



Excellent idea!

On 08-May-2012, at 2:48 AM, itasara <itasara@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

> I like that idea of taking screenshots. I also do that once in a while and I transfer all the infor for each site to an application I have that I got a long time ago. It meets my needs and is readily available. It is called navigational velocity. Far as a remember it is free. It was written by a student at the time and he has since upgraded it. It is a note taking application but very easy to put down all the things you need to remember. it is a blank page that you fill in the subject and then the infomation. Each place can have its own page. I tend to put like subjects om one page, for example all my email addresses and pws or favorite websites and logins. It is rather simple but always available. It is easy too look up what you have written by putting something related in the subject and the app will find all related places to find it. If you have a lot of items on one page, it will highlight the subject you want. My biggest problem is keeping up with all changes that often take place (bc if I don't I'm usually sorry and if it is a lost pw or security answer I have to start all over again to get a new one) and other than remembering the name of the app, the data is saved in a pref and i have a hard time remembering the name of the pref. I do print out the info. i have printed it out to save and from time to time and I save a copy of the info. on another part of my computer. I do recommend it if you want to try it.. the website is: http://notational.net/
>
> On May 6, 2012, at 5:30 AM, apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> >
> > On May 4, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Techlady wrote:
> >
> > > I take screen shots of my answers.
>
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Re: Google Calendar

Posted by: "Yahoo" chelot921@yahoo.com   chelot921

Tue May 8, 2012 3:30 am (PDT)



Should have also said which app I use. Here it is

Check out this application on the App Store:


Calendars - Google Calendar client
Readdle
Category: Productivity
Updated: May 03, 2012
31 Ratings


iTunes for Mac and Windows
Please note that you have not been added to any email lists.
Copyright © 2012 Apple Inc. All rights reserved

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Google Calendar

Posted by: "Yahoo" chelot921@yahoo.com   chelot921

Tue May 8, 2012 3:30 am (PDT)



I checked today. When the alarm goes off you can choice several snooze options.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2012, at 9:51 PM, Techlady <techlady04@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I use google. It syncs wth my phone no problem. I too had many palms. And yes, my only issue wth the iPhone has been their calendar.
>
> Not sure about the snooze button. I'm thinking no.
>
> TL
>
> On May 7, 2012, at 1:00 PM, "Andrew Piantanida" <piantanida31@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I have VERY few complaints about my iPhone (4S), but I do have one.
> >
> > So far, the smartphones I have used have included a Palm Treo 700p, a BlackBerry Storm, a BlackBerry Tour, a Motorola Droid 2, an iPhone 4, a Motorola Droid 4, & an iPhone 4S.
> >
> > I use my smartphone mostly for business, & I have to say, the worst calendar I have ever used has been on the iPhones. It is their Achilles Heel.
> > Long story short, has anyone tried Google Calendar? Does it have a "snooze" allotment for appointments? Is it quite reliable?
> >
> > Thx. -Andy P.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo!
> > America's top tax havens
> > Privacy Policy
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Re: AT&T CEO bemoans iPhone unlimited data, iMessage

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Tue May 8, 2012 7:34 am (PDT)



Brent,

I wouldn't hold out on an unlimited data plan unless you are using it now because your AT&T contract allows them to change the pricing with a month's notice so they can take away the unlimited plan at any point. Which is in fact what they have done by saying you will be throttled once you go over 3GB.

Jay

On May 7, 2012, at 12:24 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> If he wants us to give up our grandfathered unlimited data plans, offer us a generous rollover data plan. Most of us would never take advantage of it. In 3 years, I have dug into my rollover minutes for maybe 100 minutes. I'm on a 450 minute plan and average less than 200 used a month. I pay for and lost more minutes, than I have use every year that I have had a cell phone.

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Re: AT&T CEO bemoans iPhone unlimited data, iMessage

Posted by: "itasara" itasara@rochester.rr.com   itasara

Tue May 8, 2012 4:15 pm (PDT)



On May 8, 2012, at 5:34 AM, apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> that and the almost-certain-fact that most unlimited data users likely use
> no more data than the lowest tier-based data users, some of them probably
> substantially less.

This was my point kind of the last time I wrote in about data plans. I keep my $30 plan for now only because I don't
like to constantly manage my phone or anything else these days, which is getting to be a chore. I bought my iphone to enjoy and now I need to worry about using an app and if I am in a wifi area? I just want to enjoy the features that came with the phone and most I don't bother with, but occasionally I do. My husband hardly uses his iphone. We have shut off all his location features because he has the bottom of the line data package. Once in a while he'll send a picture or go on internet to look up some info. He is not always in a wifi zone when he uses his phone or when at work or out of town. All of a sudden he is getting alert notices that he is coming close to his data max.He never got these before a few months ago. He hasn't gone over his limit far as I can see; I think it is a scare tactic by AT&T to get us to pay more. Some times we both get 3 to 6 alert a day, which I did call the company about. Three of our offspring are on our policy. They usually do not go over their limit but I constantly remind them not to use you tube or other data gobbling apps. And no one seems to remember how to check their data on a regular basis---too many other daily concerns to take care of or remember.

The phone policies are just wearing us out.

Ellen

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Re: AT&T CEO bemoans iPhone unlimited data, iMessage

Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Tue May 8, 2012 6:41 pm (PDT)



Bandwidth is pretty inexpensive to free for cell companies. They want to make bucks off us and we're willing to pay it.

Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4

On May 7, 2012, at 10:24 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> I was with Verizon for 6 years, and moved to AT&T 8 years ago. On how they handle their customers, one candy coats it and the other gives it to you dry. Verizon gave me free minutes when there was an issue, AT&T doesn't, but they give you rollover. Don't use your minutes with V, A has rollover minutes. One gouges you on text messages, the other follows suit.
>
> Free minutes or rollover minutes, how many of us ever used them?
>
> I have the unlimited Data with AT&T. For the last 3 years, I have recorded data usage. My usage has been between 30 and 300MB with one notable exception of 790MB accumulated during a 2 day drive from Denver to Portland, OR. Even with that I generally average below 90MB per month. I don't go over 100 text messages in a month and probably average about 30 a month in the same 3 years.
>
> Why do I stick with it? Because I am betting that something will come along that will cause me to dramatically increase my data usage. When I traveled for work, I watched more movies, when there was cell coverage I used more GPS service, that needed data to put the maps behind the pins or little car. Want me to switch away from the unlimited data plan, offer me a cheaper tiered plan that has rollover data.
>
> I would like to tell Mr. Stephenson to put his money where his belly-aching mouth is. Right now he has a cash cow, with his near monopoly. Show us verifiable data about all this data usage, show the individuals that are getting throttled or a watchdog group, these high usage numbers. Why are people below 2GB of data being throttled for the remainder of their billing period, when the excuse is that they are in a high usage area at a high usage time. Why doesn't it un-throttle when they change areas or usage decreases? Also have him explain how 2GB is unlimited? Whose fault is it if his lawyers had not written a better contract, one that allows them to cancel the contract for abusive use or the incorrect type of use, but they had better be ready to defend that in court because they have been granted a franchise of public property, the right to use those airwaves.
>
> If he wants us to give up our grandfathered unlimited data plans, offer us a generous rollover data plan. Most of us would never take advantage of it. In 3 years, I have dug into my rollover minutes for maybe 100 minutes. I'm on a 450 minute plan and average less than 200 used a month. I pay for and lost more minutes, than I have use every year that I have had a cell phone.
>
> And this crap about text messages, paying for them at these rates is obscene. That you have a choice of what 10 or 20 cents a text or a $20 unlimited plan. There is that mysterious word, unlimited, what does that mean? Either way the customer is getting gouged, with few exceptions. Bring back the tiered text plans.
>
> Stepping off the soap box.
>
> the other Brent
>
> On May 7, 2012, at 12:53 AM, MD wrote:
>
> > i guess if the iPhone is such a financial drain on him he could dump it. Then he'd probably see what a real financial drain looks like when a large segment of his user base bails. What he fails to appreciate is how many iPhones (with the required $30 or whatever data plan) he's sold to people who likely would've never bought a smartphone, many of them likely buying more than one (four so far in my household). How much was he making in 2006 when a basic flip phone or candy bar phone was the common device? He's got the large customer base in spite of the company's service. The products are the reason he has many of them. Lose the bellcow and see how many customers are left. Quit whining about how much more you should be gouging from the customers and give them reasons to want to do business with you. They don't owe you that business.
> >
> > I say that as a sometimes frustrated Cingular/AT&T customer of about 12 years.
>

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Re: AT&T CEO bemoans iPhone unlimited data, iMessage

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Tue May 8, 2012 8:25 pm (PDT)



Alice,

I don't know where you heard that but it isn't true. You maybe thinking that since they got it from the government but they bought it at auction unlike the Television stations which were awarded the bandwidth for free.

Also there is significant cost in the equipment to enable the usage of the bandwidth.

You may be thinking of the variable cost of using an incremental portion of data. That is probably pretty low because there is a huge fixed cost of putting the bandwidth in place. However this doesn't cover the whole picture because if additional bandwidth isn't added as data usage increases then the service degrades and becomes slower for all users. This is what happened to AT&T when they introduced the iPhone and everyone complained about their service.

Jay

Sent from my iPad

On May 8, 2012, at 8:41 PM, whiterabbit32 <whiterabbit32@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bandwidth is pretty inexpensive to free for cell companies. They want to make bucks off us and we're willing to pay it.
>
> Alice
> Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> On May 7, 2012, at 10:24 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > I was with Verizon for 6 years, and moved to AT&T 8 years ago. On how they handle their customers, one candy coats it and the other gives it to you dry. Verizon gave me free minutes when there was an issue, AT&T doesn't, but they give you rollover. Don't use your minutes with V, A has rollover minutes. One gouges you on text messages, the other follows suit.
> >
> > Free minutes or rollover minutes, how many of us ever used them?
> >
> > I have the unlimited Data with AT&T. For the last 3 years, I have recorded data usage. My usage has been between 30 and 300MB with one notable exception of 790MB accumulated during a 2 day drive from Denver to Portland, OR. Even with that I generally average below 90MB per month. I don't go over 100 text messages in a month and probably average about 30 a month in the same 3 years.
> >
> > Why do I stick with it? Because I am betting that something will come along that will cause me to dramatically increase my data usage. When I traveled for work, I watched more movies, when there was cell coverage I used more GPS service, that needed data to put the maps behind the pins or little car. Want me to switch away from the unlimited data plan, offer me a cheaper tiered plan that has rollover data.
> >
> > I would like to tell Mr. Stephenson to put his money where his belly-aching mouth is. Right now he has a cash cow, with his near monopoly. Show us verifiable data about all this data usage, show the individuals that are getting throttled or a watchdog group, these high usage numbers. Why are people below 2GB of data being throttled for the remainder of their billing period, when the excuse is that they are in a high usage area at a high usage time. Why doesn't it un-throttle when they change areas or usage decreases? Also have him explain how 2GB is unlimited? Whose fault is it if his lawyers had not written a better contract, one that allows them to cancel the contract for abusive use or the incorrect type of use, but they had better be ready to defend that in court because they have been granted a franchise of public property, the right to use those airwaves.
> >
> > If he wants us to give up our grandfathered unlimited data plans, offer us a generous rollover data plan. Most of us would never take advantage of it. In 3 years, I have dug into my rollover minutes for maybe 100 minutes. I'm on a 450 minute plan and average less than 200 used a month. I pay for and lost more minutes, than I have use every year that I have had a cell phone.
> >
> > And this crap about text messages, paying for them at these rates is obscene. That you have a choice of what 10 or 20 cents a text or a $20 unlimited plan. There is that mysterious word, unlimited, what does that mean? Either way the customer is getting gouged, with few exceptions. Bring back the tiered text plans.
> >
> > Stepping off the soap box.
> >
> > the other Brent
> >
> > On May 7, 2012, at 12:53 AM, MD wrote:
> >
> > > i guess if the iPhone is such a financial drain on him he could dump it. Then he'd probably see what a real financial drain looks like when a large segment of his user base bails. What he fails to appreciate is how many iPhones (with the required $30 or whatever data plan) he's sold to people who likely would've never bought a smartphone, many of them likely buying more than one (four so far in my household). How much was he making in 2006 when a basic flip phone or candy bar phone was the common device? He's got the large customer base in spite of the company's service. The products are the reason he has many of them. Lose the bellcow and see how many customers are left. Quit whining about how much more you should be gouging from the customers and give them reasons to want to do business with you. They don't owe you that business.
> > >
> > > I say that as a sometimes frustrated Cingular/AT&T customer of about 12 years.
> >
>
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Re: AT&T CEO bemoans iPhone unlimited data, iMessage

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Tue May 8, 2012 8:29 pm (PDT)



A common sales practice is to confuse the consumer, so they buy more is a common sales with cellular providers and laundry detergent makers. It is called the glug theory, a little is good and more is better. Poorly defined means of measuring usage. With the detergent, you do use more. With cellular, since most don't monitor their usage, it is easy to sell them too large a plan.

If you don't track your monthly usage, how do you know what is normal or which plan to get?

I'm a little confused about your data plans. How can you and your husband have separate data plans and the kids be on one of your plans. Either you have individual plans or you are on a family plan.

If the kid are on the same plan as your husband and they go over, then it might be the kids going over and they just aren't telling you about it, or you set up the alerts to tell just your husband. It does not matter what limit you may impose on the kids, it all goes into the same pot if I understand the family plan.

May I suggest that you get an app like DataMan and install it on each iPhone and then you monitor it. Just recognize that it has to run all the time, so if anyone does a restart, you have to start it back up. I believe you will have to monitor the app on each phone. It is more current than what you will find on the AT&T site, but you as the account owner, can monitor it from the AT&T site. Just remember it is delayed about a day, but first you need to understand the accounts you have.

Also check your husband's phone and verify that there are no new location features turned on, or if he is using any streaming app like Pandora or web radio.

BTW, get DataMan Pro, but turn off Precise Tracking and Geotag, it uses too much cellular data. It will track both cellular data and WiFi data usage so you have to be aware of the difference.

Brent

On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, itasara wrote:

> On May 8, 2012, at 5:34 AM, apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> > that and the almost-certain-fact that most unlimited data users likely use
> > no more data than the lowest tier-based data users, some of them probably
> > substantially less.
>
> This was my point kind of the last time I wrote in about data plans. I keep my $30 plan for now only because I don't
> like to constantly manage my phone or anything else these days, which is getting to be a chore. I bought my iphone to enjoy and now I need to worry about using an app and if I am in a wifi area? I just want to enjoy the features that came with the phone and most I don't bother with, but occasionally I do. My husband hardly uses his iphone. We have shut off all his location features because he has the bottom of the line data package. Once in a while he'll send a picture or go on internet to look up some info. He is not always in a wifi zone when he uses his phone or when at work or out of town. All of a sudden he is getting alert notices that he is coming close to his data max.He never got these before a few months ago. He hasn't gone over his limit far as I can see; I think it is a scare tactic by AT&T to get us to pay more. Some times we both get 3 to 6 alert a day, which I did call the company about. Three of our offspring are on our policy. They usually do not go over their limit but I constantly remind them not to use you tube or other data gobbling apps. And no one seems to remember how to check their data on a regular basis---too many other daily concerns to take care of or remember.
>
> The phone policies are just wearing us out.

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4a.

Help with app search

Posted by: "AnneL" shadow484@comcast.net   alogston

Tue May 8, 2012 11:42 am (PDT)



When I'm in the Apple App store in iTunes in a category (books, for
example), is there any possible way to narrow my search to ONLY apps in
English? I'm tired of paging through screens and screens of Japanese
apps.

Thanks,
Anne

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5.1.

Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "whiterabbit32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Tue May 8, 2012 6:25 pm (PDT)



I know Apple has been rejecting 3rd party apps that use the new Dropbox sdk. I don't know if that might be the problem. I haven't seem any updated articles on it. This one was 6 days ago http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/5/2/2993027/dropbox-confirms-apple-rejecting-apps-use-sdk

Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4

On May 7, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Diane Mettam <dmettam@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Has something changed with DropBox? I receive some quilt patterns on my iPad, and they used to automatically go into DropBox so I could retrieve them on my MacBook. Now that isn't even an option, and I have to go to the quilt site and physically download them onto the Mac. I'm just wondering if something has happened that DropBox isn't accepting pdf's any longer?
>
> My DropBox space has increased, so I don't think that's an issue. Thanks for any advice!
>

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Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "Vishal Sheth" vusheth@gmail.com   vusheth

Tue May 8, 2012 10:40 pm (PDT)



Use box.net

Vishal Sheth
On May 7, 2012 1:04 AM, "Chris Laarman" <v.c.laarman@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Carol Corley <floridabouvs@gmail.com> on Sun, 6 May 2012 10:21:49
> -0400:
>
> >Thanks to all the suggestions. I watched the tour and it definitely
> sounds interesting. But the 2g isn't much, and after that it's $10 a month.
> Can't I do much the same thing with the Cloud, which has a considerably
> lower annual cost?
>
> I use Dropbox for three purposes:
> - exchanging files among several computers that are not up
> simultaneously;
> - having certain documents available at a meeting;
> - having few files "sticky".
>
> I currently have 87 MB in 147 files.
>
> You could also create a Microsoft Live account (or perhaps more than
> one) with 8 GB free SkyDrive space. (Look for the free SkyDrive app.)
> � Existing Live (or Hotmail) users may have little time left to keep
> their original 25 GB. <https://skydrive.live.com/ManageStorage>
> � Additional storage is far cheaper than with Dropbox. But SkyDrive
> doesn't automatically synchronize.
>
> Besides, I have a subdomain at my website dedicated to sharing files
> with others. I send them the URL of the index file, and after a month
> I remove them all.
> (This is a paid website. I may be entitled to some home page with my
> ISP too.)
>
> Hope this helps. :-)
>
> --
> Chris Laarman
>
>

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Re: Dropbox

Posted by: "lwr32" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr0032

Tue May 8, 2012 10:54 pm (PDT)



I have a box.net account and have had it since its beginning. At first I didn't use it much because it had a small file size upload limit. I was unable to upload videos I had edited using iMovie. I take video of trips I take with my mini cooper club. I have no problem uploading them to Dropbox. Now that box.net has a 25MB file size limit, I use it more.

🐰 Alice

On May 8, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Vishal Sheth <vusheth@gmail.com> wrote:

> Use box.net
>
> Vishal Sheth
> On May 7, 2012 1:04 AM, "Chris Laarman" <v.c.laarman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Carol Corley <floridabouvs@gmail.com> on Sun, 6 May 2012 10:21:49
>> -0400:
>>
>>> Thanks to all the suggestions. I watched the tour and it definitely
>> sounds interesting. But the 2g isn't much, and after that it's $10 a month.
>> Can't I do much the same thing with the Cloud, which has a considerably
>> lower annual cost?
>>
>> I use Dropbox for three purposes:
>> - exchanging files among several computers that are not up
>> simultaneously;
>> - having certain documents available at a meeting;
>> - having few files "sticky".
>>
>> I currently have 87 MB in 147 files.
>>
>> You could also create a Microsoft Live account (or perhaps more than
>> one) with 8 GB free SkyDrive space. (Look for the free SkyDrive app.)
>> � Existing Live (or Hotmail) users may have little time left to keep
>> their original 25 GB. <https://skydrive.live.com/ManageStorage>
>> � Additional storage is far cheaper than with Dropbox. But SkyDrive
>> doesn't automatically synchronize.
>>
>> Besides, I have a subdomain at my website dedicated to sharing files
>> with others. I send them the URL of the index file, and after a month
>> I remove them all.
>> (This is a paid website. I may be entitled to some home page with my
>> ISP too.)
>>
>> Hope this helps. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Chris Laarman
>>
>>
>
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