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Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
How does Apple cut anyone off if it does not own content? Licensing content and the ability to deliver content is key IMO. Is cable in a hurry to negotiate it's content or it's delivery, I think not. But the xbox provides various pleasures already, and with a cable card, could come in quickly if a content agreement was amenable to all parties. I'd much rather have Apple providing my hardware w content if they will get the licensing agreements.
Or maybe I still do not understand the situation as yet. Anyhoo. jr
> Basically, they will act as brokers. Eventually, Apple will cut them off at the knees, but for a > little while, they may have leverage.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
>
>
>
Or maybe I still do not understand the situation as yet. Anyhoo. jr
> Basically, they will act as brokers. Eventually, Apple will cut them off at the knees, but for a > little while, they may have leverage.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins-at-
>
>
>
Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:03 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
Cable providers don't own content. They negotiate licenses, which Apple can also do. The cable companies are conduits, and just like the broadcasters, they can and will be cut out by other delivery mechanisms. However, the cable companies currently hold the monopoly on broadband! Ouch. No streaming without broadband. You know that "net neutral" argument you've heard. THIS is the engine of that battle. It's not about you and me. As a practical battle, it's about broadband providers (cable companies) having leverage over streamers (Apple, Netflix, Google).
It's also not entire true that cable providers don't control content. Most are part of larger corporations that own content providers, mostly cable channels. That gives the cable companies more leverage.
cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:29 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
> How does Apple cut anyone off if it does not own content? Licensing content and the ability to deliver content is key IMO. Is cable in a hurry to negotiate it's content or it's delivery, I think not. But the xbox provides various pleasures already, and with a cable card, could come in quickly if a content agreement was amenable to all parties. I'd much rather have Apple providing my hardware w content if they will get the licensing agreements.
>
> Or maybe I still do not understand the situation as yet. Anyhoo. jr
>
> > Basically, they will act as brokers. Eventually, Apple will cut them off at the knees, but for a > little while, they may have leverage.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > tod
> >
> > Tod Hopkins
> > Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> > todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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It's also not entire true that cable providers don't control content. Most are part of larger corporations that own content providers, mostly cable channels. That gives the cable companies more leverage.
cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-
On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:29 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
> How does Apple cut anyone off if it does not own content? Licensing content and the ability to deliver content is key IMO. Is cable in a hurry to negotiate it's content or it's delivery, I think not. But the xbox provides various pleasures already, and with a cable card, could come in quickly if a content agreement was amenable to all parties. I'd much rather have Apple providing my hardware w content if they will get the licensing agreements.
>
> Or maybe I still do not understand the situation as yet. Anyhoo. jr
>
> > Basically, they will act as brokers. Eventually, Apple will cut them off at the knees, but for a > little while, they may have leverage.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > tod
> >
> > Tod Hopkins
> > Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> > todhopkins-at-
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ian Gillis" ianjgillis
Posts like this one with No Subject, No Author and No Email address
have been happening to at least three people as reported on YGOG -
it's been reported to the Help Community: see http://yhoo.it/P3xtSL
regards,
Ian
On 17 August 2012 20:06, <> wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:06:00 -0400
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> I have an Epson 2450 Photo scanner that is a flatbed scanner that came with holders to allow scanning of various films, including 4x5, 35mm film strips, 35mm slides, and 120/220 (6x9cm) film. I do prefer my Nikon Coolscan V scanner for the 35mm stuff, though. Of course the scanner bed allows scanning of up to 8-1/2 by 11-1/2 inch material, which I use for documents, but could use for 8x10 film, for example.
>
> ...........Mike
>
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marc Reavis <shirasagi@earthlink.net > wrote:
>
>> Are there scanners for large-format negatives, e.g. 4x5?
>>
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:52 AM, OBrien wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:45:30 -0500, OBrien wrote:
>>>> The EPSON Perfection V33 Scanner might be a good, inexpensive choice.
>>>> <http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/ProductCategory.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=-16223 >
>>>
>>> This one would be for casual, non-professional use. Of course, if you want to spend the money, you can get more expensive ones. I would highly recommend Epson, although there are other good brands.
>>>
have been happening to at least three people as reported on YGOG -
it's been reported to the Help Community: see http://yhoo.
regards,
Ian
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> Marc,
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> I have an Epson 2450 Photo scanner that is a flatbed scanner that came with holders to allow scanning of various films, including 4x5, 35mm film strips, 35mm slides, and 120/220 (6x9cm) film. I do prefer my Nikon Coolscan V scanner for the 35mm stuff, though. Of course the scanner bed allows scanning of up to 8-1/2 by 11-1/2 inch material, which I use for documents, but could use for 8x10 film, for example.
>
> ...........Mike
>
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marc Reavis <shirasagi@earthlink
>
>> Are there scanners for large-format negatives, e.g. 4x5?
>>
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:52 AM, OBrien wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:45:30 -0500, OBrien wrote:
>>>> The EPSON Perfection V33 Scanner might be a good, inexpensive choice.
>>>> <http://www.epson.
>>>
>>> This one would be for casual, non-professional use. Of course, if you want to spend the money, you can get more expensive ones. I would highly recommend Epson, although there are other good brands.
>>>
Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski
As you said in your post to the Help Community, Ian, it was not the fault of the sender, at least not in the case of my post. Mine was a reply to a post by Marc, the previous sender and of course my post had the same subject as his did. Strange stuff happening in the Yahoo lists. The MacEpsonList1 has been plagued by two pieces of spam that get sent every day from the list and Yahoo has been unable to correct this for weeks now.
...........Mike
On Aug 17, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@gmail.com > wrote:
> Posts like this one with No Subject, No Author and No Email address
> have been happening to at least three people as reported on YGOG -
> it's been reported to the Help Community: see http://yhoo.it/P3xtSL
> regards,
> Ian
>
> On 17 August 2012 20:06, <> wrote:
>> Marc,
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>>
>> I have an Epson 2450 Photo scanner that is a flatbed scanner that came with holders to allow scanning of various films, including 4x5, 35mm film strips, 35mm slides, and 120/220 (6x9cm) film. I do prefer my Nikon Coolscan V scanner for the 35mm stuff, though. Of course the scanner bed allows scanning of up to 8-1/2 by 11-1/2 inch material, which I use for documents, but could use for 8x10 film, for example.
>>
>> ...........Mike
>>
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marc Reavis <shirasagi@earthlink.net > wrote:
>>
>>> Are there scanners for large-format negatives, e.g. 4x5?
>>>
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:52 AM, OBrien wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:45:30 -0500, OBrien wrote:
>>>>> The EPSON Perfection V33 Scanner might be a good, inexpensive choice.
>>>>> <http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/ProductCategory.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=-16223 >
>>>>
>>>> This one would be for casual, non-professional use. Of course, if you want to spend the money, you can get more expensive ones. I would highly recommend Epson, although there are other good brands.
>>>>
>
...........Mike
On Aug 17, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Ian Gillis <tessel.bas@gmail.
> Posts like this one with No Subject, No Author and No Email address
> have been happening to at least three people as reported on YGOG -
> it's been reported to the Help Community: see http://yhoo.
> regards,
> Ian
>
> On 17 August 2012 20:06, <> wrote:
>> Marc,
>> X-Originating-
>> X-eGroups-Msg-
>> From: "Michael P. Stupinski" <mpstupinski@
>> X-Yahoo-Profile: mstupinski
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>> Content-Transfer-
>>
>> I have an Epson 2450 Photo scanner that is a flatbed scanner that came with holders to allow scanning of various films, including 4x5, 35mm film strips, 35mm slides, and 120/220 (6x9cm) film. I do prefer my Nikon Coolscan V scanner for the 35mm stuff, though. Of course the scanner bed allows scanning of up to 8-1/2 by 11-1/2 inch material, which I use for documents, but could use for 8x10 film, for example.
>>
>> ...........Mike
>>
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marc Reavis <shirasagi@earthlink
>>
>>> Are there scanners for large-format negatives, e.g. 4x5?
>>>
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:52 AM, OBrien wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:45:30 -0500, OBrien wrote:
>>>>> The EPSON Perfection V33 Scanner might be a good, inexpensive choice.
>>>>> <http://www.epson.
>>>>
>>>> This one would be for casual, non-professional use. Of course, if you want to spend the money, you can get more expensive ones. I would highly recommend Epson, although there are other good brands.
>>>>
>
Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ardell Faul" computer_monitor_service_company
I bought this unit, with a cracked screen and want to install a fresh OS
in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went back to the
desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the drive was
able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even tried to start
a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't know the user's
password, I had to abort that.
No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and
format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while, but
it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where it now
asks for the password. Which I don't know.
So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down the
Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the device
list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive showing is
the Hard drive!!!
Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual
installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device list?
Can one of you tell me how I might resolve this problem please?
--
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.net
509-891-5188
in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went back to the
desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the drive was
able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even tried to start
a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't know the user's
password, I had to abort that.
No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and
format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while, but
it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where it now
asks for the password. Which I don't know.
So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down the
Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the device
list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive showing is
the Hard drive!!!
Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual
installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device list?
Can one of you tell me how I might resolve this problem please?
--
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.
509-891-5188
Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Sounds like you have an OS X install DVD that mounts on the problem
MacBook Pro but may not be the right version of OS X to boot that
MacBook Pro and/or install on it. Perhaps you have an OS X disc from a
specific model Mac rather than the general issue type of OS X disc.
Can you boot the problem computer and check the specs in About This
Mac, System Profile (that More Info button) and look at the Model
Identifier number and the processor speed and report back here and
someone will look it up in MacTracker to see what the OS X version is
that came with this model.
Sometimes the DOCS keyboard command will work for booting from a
different system when other commands will not.
The DOCS command is Delete Option Command Shift. This tells Mac to
boot from any other available valid system.
Denver Dan
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:00:34 -0700, Ardell Faul wrote:
> I bought this unit, with a cracked screen and want to install a fresh OS
> in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went back to the
> desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the drive was
> able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even tried to start
> a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't know the user's
> password, I had to abort that.
>
> No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and
> format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
>
> Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while, but
> it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where it now
> asks for the password. Which I don't know.
>
> So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down the
> Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the device
> list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive showing is
> the Hard drive!!!
>
> Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual
> installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device list?
>
> Can one of you tell me how I might resolve this problem please?
>
> --
> Ardell Faul
> Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> ardell@icehouse.net
> 509-891-5188
Sounds like you have an OS X install DVD that mounts on the problem
MacBook Pro but may not be the right version of OS X to boot that
MacBook Pro and/or install on it. Perhaps you have an OS X disc from a
specific model Mac rather than the general issue type of OS X disc.
Can you boot the problem computer and check the specs in About This
Mac, System Profile (that More Info button) and look at the Model
Identifier number and the processor speed and report back here and
someone will look it up in MacTracker to see what the OS X version is
that came with this model.
Sometimes the DOCS keyboard command will work for booting from a
different system when other commands will not.
The DOCS command is Delete Option Command Shift. This tells Mac to
boot from any other available valid system.
Denver Dan
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:00:34 -0700, Ardell Faul wrote:
> I bought this unit, with a cracked screen and want to install a fresh OS
> in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went back to the
> desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the drive was
> able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even tried to start
> a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't know the user's
> password, I had to abort that.
>
> No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and
> format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
>
> Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while, but
> it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where it now
> asks for the password. Which I don't know.
>
> So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down the
> Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the device
> list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive showing is
> the Hard drive!!!
>
> Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual
> installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device list?
>
> Can one of you tell me how I might resolve this problem please?
>
> --
> Ardell Faul
> Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> ardell@icehouse.
> 509-891-5188
Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ardell Faul" computer_monitor_service_company
Thank you. The installed system is OSX version 10.6.8. The install
disk I have is Leopard OSX version 10.5.4.
Why would the optical drive not show up in the devices list? Does it
decide not to show if the disk in it is not bootable?
Ardell
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.net
509-891-5188
On 8/17/2012 3:18 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Sounds like you have an OS X install DVD that mounts on the problem
> MacBook Pro but may not be the right version of OS X to boot that
> MacBook Pro and/or install on it. Perhaps you have an OS X disc from a
> specific model Mac rather than the general issue type of OS X disc.
>
> Can you boot the problem computer and check the specs in About This
> Mac, System Profile (that More Info button) and look at the Model
> Identifier number and the processor speed and report back here and
> someone will look it up in MacTracker to see what the OS X version is
> that came with this model.
>
> Sometimes the DOCS keyboard command will work for booting from a
> different system when other commands will not.
>
> The DOCS command is Delete Option Command Shift. This tells Mac to
> boot from any other available valid system.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:00:34 -0700, Ardell Faul wrote:
> > I bought this unit, with a cracked screen and want to install a
> fresh OS
> > in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went back to
> the
> > desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the drive was
> > able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even tried to start
> > a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't know the user's
> > password, I had to abort that.
> >
> > No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and
> > format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
> >
> > Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while, but
> > it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where it
> now
> > asks for the password. Which I don't know.
> >
> > So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down the
> > Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the device
> > list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive showing is
> > the Hard drive!!!
> >
> > Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual
> > installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device
> list?
> >
> > Can one of you tell me how I might resolve this problem please?
> >
> > --
> > Ardell Faul
> > Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> > Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> > 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> > Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> > ardell@icehouse.net <mailto:ardell%40icehouse.net>
> > 509-891-5188
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
disk I have is Leopard OSX version 10.5.4.
Why would the optical drive not show up in the devices list? Does it
decide not to show if the disk in it is not bootable?
Ardell
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.
509-891-5188
On 8/17/2012 3:18 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Sounds like you have an OS X install DVD that mounts on the problem
> MacBook Pro but may not be the right version of OS X to boot that
> MacBook Pro and/or install on it. Perhaps you have an OS X disc from a
> specific model Mac rather than the general issue type of OS X disc.
>
> Can you boot the problem computer and check the specs in About This
> Mac, System Profile (that More Info button) and look at the Model
> Identifier number and the processor speed and report back here and
> someone will look it up in MacTracker to see what the OS X version is
> that came with this model.
>
> Sometimes the DOCS keyboard command will work for booting from a
> different system when other commands will not.
>
> The DOCS command is Delete Option Command Shift. This tells Mac to
> boot from any other available valid system.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:00:34 -0700, Ardell Faul wrote:
> > I bought this unit, with a cracked screen and want to install a
> fresh OS
> > in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went back to
> the
> > desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the drive was
> > able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even tried to start
> > a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't know the user's
> > password, I had to abort that.
> >
> > No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and
> > format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
> >
> > Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while, but
> > it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where it
> now
> > asks for the password. Which I don't know.
> >
> > So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down the
> > Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the device
> > list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive showing is
> > the Hard drive!!!
> >
> > Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual
> > installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device
> list?
> >
> > Can one of you tell me how I might resolve this problem please?
> >
> > --
> > Ardell Faul
> > Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> > Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> > 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> > Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> > ardell@icehouse.
> > 509-891-5188
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> I bought this unit, with a cracked screen and want to install a fresh OS in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went back to the desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the drive was able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even tried to start a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't know the user's password, I had to abort that.
>
> No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
>
> Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while, but it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where it now asks for the password. Which I don't know.
>
> So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down the Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the device list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive showing is the Hard drive!!!
>
> Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device list?
What the "Option Boot" is telling you is that the system hardware does not see a *bootable* drive in the optical drive reader.
What model computer?
What MacOS version on the DVD?
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>
> No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
>
> Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while, but it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where it now asks for the password. Which I don't know.
>
> So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down the Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the device list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive showing is the Hard drive!!!
>
> Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device list?
What the "Option Boot" is telling you is that the system hardware does not see a *bootable* drive in the optical drive reader.
What model computer?
What MacOS version on the DVD?
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"hflaxman001@yahoo.com" hflaxman001
--- Original Message ---
From: "Ardell Faul" <ardell@icehouse.
Sent: August 17, 2012 6:36 PM
To: macsupportcentral@
Subject: Re: [macsupport] MacBookPro won't boot from CD
Thank you. The installed system is OSX version 10.6.8. The install
disk I have is Leopard OSX version 10.5.4.
Why would the optical drive not show up in the devices list? Does it
decide not to show if the disk in it is not bootable?
Ardell
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.
509-891-5188
On 8/17/2012 3:18 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Sounds like you have an OS X install DVD that mounts on the problem
> MacBook Pro but may not be the right version of OS X to boot that
> MacBook Pro and/or install on it. Perhaps you have an OS X disc from a
> specific model Mac rather than the general issue type of OS X disc.
>
> Can you boot the problem computer and check the specs in About This
> Mac, System Profile (that More Info button) and look at the Model
> Identifier number and the processor speed and report back here and
> someone will look it up in MacTracker to see what the OS X version is
> that came with this model.
>
> Sometimes the DOCS keyboard command will work for booting from a
> different system when other commands will not.
>
> The DOCS command is Delete Option Command Shift. This tells Mac to
> boot from any other available valid system.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:00:34 -0700, Ardell Faul wrote:
> > I bought this unit, with a cracked screen and want to install a
> fresh OS
> > in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went back to
> the
> > desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the drive was
> > able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even tried to start
> > a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't know the user's
> > password, I had to abort that.
> >
> > No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and
> > format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
> >
> > Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while, but
> > it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where it
> now
> > asks for the password. Which I don't know.
> >
> > So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down the
> > Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the device
> > list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive showing is
> > the Hard drive!!!
> >
> > Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual
> > installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device
> list?
> >
> > Can one of you tell me how I might resolve this problem please?
> >
> > --
> > Ardell Faul
> > Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> > Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> > 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> > Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> > ardell@icehouse.
> > 509-891-5188
I have had that happen before and have had to restart holding down the mouse button.
Does not indicate a hardware.problem necessarily.
H
Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ardell Faul" computer_monitor_service_company
I also have the following Mac DVDs: Mac OS X Tiger, Apple Ibook G4
Hardware test, and the Apple Ibook G4 install CD's, all 8 of them.
Since I am not very familiar with the different Mac operating systems, I
am still not sure if the problem is that I do not have a viable boot
disc, or if there is a hardware or configuration problem.
Shouldn't the optical drive show up if I put the hardware test disc in it?
Ardell
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.net
509-891-5188
On 8/17/2012 4:06 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
> > I bought this unit, with a cracked screen and want to install a
> fresh OS in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went
> back to the desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the
> drive was able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even
> tried to start a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't
> know the user's password, I had to abort that.
> >
> > No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and
> format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
> >
> > Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while,
> but it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where
> it now asks for the password. Which I don't know.
> >
> > So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down
> the Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the
> device list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive
> showing is the Hard drive!!!
> >
> > Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual
> installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device list?
>
> What the "Option Boot" is telling you is that the system hardware does
> not see a *bootable* drive in the optical drive reader.
>
> What model computer?
> What MacOS version on the DVD?
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com <mailto:jimdoc%40me.com>
>
>
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Hardware test, and the Apple Ibook G4 install CD's, all 8 of them.
Since I am not very familiar with the different Mac operating systems, I
am still not sure if the problem is that I do not have a viable boot
disc, or if there is a hardware or configuration problem.
Shouldn't the optical drive show up if I put the hardware test disc in it?
Ardell
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.
509-891-5188
On 8/17/2012 4:06 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
> > I bought this unit, with a cracked screen and want to install a
> fresh OS in it. When I first powered it up it was in standby and went
> back to the desktop. While there, I inserted my OSX install CD and the
> drive was able to read it, and displayed the contents fine. I even
> tried to start a fresh installation from there, but since I didn't
> know the user's password, I had to abort that.
> >
> > No problem, I figured. I will just boot from the DVD, partition and
> format the drive from there and install a fresh system.
> >
> > Well, holding down the "C" key makes the unit "think" for a while,
> but it finally gives up and boots back to the installed system, where
> it now asks for the password. Which I don't know.
> >
> > So I finally shut it down and tried again, this time holding down
> the Option key. That works, sort of, in that it does take me to the
> device list for me to choose the boot up device, but the only drive
> showing is the Hard drive!!!
> >
> > Say what? The DVD drive worked the one time I was in the actual
> installed operating system, but now it doesn't show up in the Device list?
>
> What the "Option Boot" is telling you is that the system hardware does
> not see a *bootable* drive in the optical drive reader.
>
> What model computer?
> What MacOS version on the DVD?
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com <mailto:jimdoc%
>
>
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> The installed system is OSX version 10.6.8.
> The install disk I have is Leopard OSX version 10.5.4.
>
> Why would the optical drive not show up in the devices list? Does it decide not to show if the disk in it is not bootable?
Around 2008-2009 Macbook Pros (depending on the model) started being delivered with MacOS later than 10.5.4, and those machines will not boot from 10.5.4 or earlier.
If it was an earlier machine, that *should* boot from 10.5.4, then my only guess is that it is a system-specific 10.5.4 DVD (e.g., iMac or Mac Pro, or Mac Mini, or some such), and *that* simply would not work properly with a Macbook Pro.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
> The install disk I have is Leopard OSX version 10.5.4.
>
> Why would the optical drive not show up in the devices list? Does it decide not to show if the disk in it is not bootable?
Around 2008-2009 Macbook Pros (depending on the model) started being delivered with MacOS later than 10.5.4, and those machines will not boot from 10.5.4 or earlier.
If it was an earlier machine, that *should* boot from 10.5.4, then my only guess is that it is a system-specific 10.5.4 DVD (e.g., iMac or Mac Pro, or Mac Mini, or some such), and *that* simply would not work properly with a Macbook Pro.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
There are several type of scanners for scanning film, negatives, and
35mm.
Photographers can buy a type of dedicated 35mm scanner that only does
this format but is also very high resolution. The very high resolution
allows you to convert the 35mm size into a much larger size for
printing to photo paper (after scanning and during editing the
resolution and physical dimension size of the image does a trade off
with resolution coming down and size going up).
Flat bed scanners have gotten much better in recent years at scanning
film.
The Canon CanoScan 8800f that I have came with several plastic holders
for different sizes of film including even film strips.
Dedicated film scanners, like the Nikon CoolScan series tend to be very
expensive. Hasselblad makes some REALLY expensive film scanners.
There are cheap ones out there too but if you want to scan film and
then enlarge the resulting image for printing on photo paper I'd
suggest being a bit cautious about the cheap $200 units.
Check B&H in New York for all kinds of things connected to professional
photography. B&H is a good company and has been around for many many
years.
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com >
Denver Dan
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:38:10 -0700, Marc Reavis wrote:
> Are there scanners for large-format negatives, e.g. 4x5?
>
>
> Marc
There are several type of scanners for scanning film, negatives, and
35mm.
Photographers can buy a type of dedicated 35mm scanner that only does
this format but is also very high resolution. The very high resolution
allows you to convert the 35mm size into a much larger size for
printing to photo paper (after scanning and during editing the
resolution and physical dimension size of the image does a trade off
with resolution coming down and size going up).
Flat bed scanners have gotten much better in recent years at scanning
film.
The Canon CanoScan 8800f that I have came with several plastic holders
for different sizes of film including even film strips.
Dedicated film scanners, like the Nikon CoolScan series tend to be very
expensive. Hasselblad makes some REALLY expensive film scanners.
There are cheap ones out there too but if you want to scan film and
then enlarge the resulting image for printing on photo paper I'd
suggest being a bit cautious about the cheap $200 units.
Check B&H in New York for all kinds of things connected to professional
photography. B&H is a good company and has been around for many many
years.
<http://www.bhphotov
Denver Dan
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:38:10 -0700, Marc Reavis wrote:
> Are there scanners for large-format negatives, e.g. 4x5?
>
>
> Marc
Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> It would depend on your long term plans.
>
> Tiff is uncompressed so the image is generally higher quality but this
> means they will take up more space, load in a picture viewer slower, etc.
>
> JPEG / JPG - is compressed and image quality will suffer - whether or not
> you'll notice will depend on you and what you are doing.
>
> Generally I would advise TIFF if you have the resources and converting them
> to JPEG as needed - for example to email them or post online.
I would choose TIFF then re-save them as PNG files, or another loss-less compression mode.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
> Tiff is uncompressed so the image is generally higher quality but this
> means they will take up more space, load in a picture viewer slower, etc.
>
> JPEG / JPG - is compressed and image quality will suffer - whether or not
> you'll notice will depend on you and what you are doing.
>
> Generally I would advise TIFF if you have the resources and converting them
> to JPEG as needed - for example to email them or post online.
I would choose TIFF then re-save them as PNG files, or another loss-less compression mode.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"majorjake" norjgcharternet
I scanned a 3.5 by 4.5 inch picture to various file types. The GIF
defaulted to 72 DPI. All the others were at 1200 DPI All other settings
remained the same. There is a substantial change in file size from JPEG to
TIFF. Scan time seemed comparable for the bottom 4 file types.
Scan.pdf 174 KB
Scan.bmp 237 KB
Scan.gif 52 KB
Scan.jp2 4.4 MB
Scan 5.png 31.2 MB
Scan 1.tiff 32.4 MB
Scan 152.jpeg 4.1 MB
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defaulted to 72 DPI. All the others were at 1200 DPI All other settings
remained the same. There is a substantial change in file size from JPEG to
TIFF. Scan time seemed comparable for the bottom 4 file types.
Scan.pdf 174 KB
Scan.bmp 237 KB
Scan.gif 52 KB
Scan.jp2 4.4 MB
Scan 5.png 31.2 MB
Scan 1.tiff 32.4 MB
Scan 152.jpeg 4.1 MB
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael Moloney" moloney_mj
Hi there,
Can anyone on the group recommend a good AV Player for use with the iPad?
Thanks.
Michael Moloney
moloney.icloud@gmail.com
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Can anyone on the group recommend a good AV Player for use with the iPad?
Thanks.
Michael Moloney
moloney.icloud@
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