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Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave Jones" daveandlibby
On Thursday, Aug 23, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote in part:
> But wait! I'm remembering some advice I heard. Call Apple directly (customer support), or better yet, go to the Apple Genius bar with your machine, and ask, beg, cajole. I'm told that Apple will still sell Leopard to customers who request it and can't run later OS's. And the Apple Geniuses really like to please customers. Do a full backup before you go and see if you can convince them to nuke and pave with Leopard.
Anyone actually done this yet? More important, does anyone think it will it work with Lion? (My wife's mini won't run Mt. Lion and we'd love to get us both into the cloud!)
Dave Jones
iMac 2.4 Intel
Snow Leopard
OS X 10.6.8
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> But wait! I'm remembering some advice I heard. Call Apple directly (customer support), or better yet, go to the Apple Genius bar with your machine, and ask, beg, cajole. I'm told that Apple will still sell Leopard to customers who request it and can't run later OS's. And the Apple Geniuses really like to please customers. Do a full backup before you go and see if you can convince them to nuke and pave with Leopard.
Anyone actually done this yet? More important, does anyone think it will it work with Lion? (My wife's mini won't run Mt. Lion and we'd love to get us both into the cloud!)
Dave Jones
iMac 2.4 Intel
Snow Leopard
OS X 10.6.8
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
Have not done this personally, or read accounts. However, I am certain that Geniuses have access to full installs of all the major OS versions and can reistall them for you. Have discussed this with Geniuses. Under what conditions or terms, I don't know. To get one to install Lion on a G5 (they know that G5's never had Lion) you may have to use your best persuasion skills.
As for purchasing Lion from Apple, it is was widely discussed in the pro community when Lion was pulled that Apple could be convinced to sell you Lion under extenuating circumstances. You have to go through Customer Support I believe, not the stores, and it can sometimes be difficult to find someone in the organization who is aware that this is possible, so if they tell you know, say thank you and call again. Ask to speak to a supervisor to plead your case.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thursday, Aug 23, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote in part:
>
> > But wait! I'm remembering some advice I heard. Call Apple directly (customer support), or better yet, go to the Apple Genius bar with your machine, and ask, beg, cajole. I'm told that Apple will still sell Leopard to customers who request it and can't run later OS's. And the Apple Geniuses really like to please customers. Do a full backup before you go and see if you can convince them to nuke and pave with Leopard.
>
> Anyone actually done this yet? More important, does anyone think it will it work with Lion? (My wife's mini won't run Mt. Lion and we'd love to get us both into the cloud!)
>
> Dave Jones
> iMac 2.4 Intel
> Snow Leopard
> OS X 10.6.8
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As for purchasing Lion from Apple, it is was widely discussed in the pro community when Lion was pulled that Apple could be convinced to sell you Lion under extenuating circumstances. You have to go through Customer Support I believe, not the stores, and it can sometimes be difficult to find someone in the organization who is aware that this is possible, so if they tell you know, say thank you and call again. Ask to speak to a supervisor to plead your case.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-
On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thursday, Aug 23, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote in part:
>
> > But wait! I'm remembering some advice I heard. Call Apple directly (customer support), or better yet, go to the Apple Genius bar with your machine, and ask, beg, cajole. I'm told that Apple will still sell Leopard to customers who request it and can't run later OS's. And the Apple Geniuses really like to please customers. Do a full backup before you go and see if you can convince them to nuke and pave with Leopard.
>
> Anyone actually done this yet? More important, does anyone think it will it work with Lion? (My wife's mini won't run Mt. Lion and we'd love to get us both into the cloud!)
>
> Dave Jones
> iMac 2.4 Intel
> Snow Leopard
> OS X 10.6.8
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 23 Aug 2012, at 06:33 PM, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncar
> Have not done this personally, or read accounts. However, I am certain that Geniuses have access to full installs of all the major OS versions and can reistall them for you. Have discussed this with Geniuses. Under what conditions or terms, I don't know. To get one to install Lion on a G5 (they know that G5's never had Lion) you may have to use your best persuasion skills.
Try as you might, but you will never get them to install Lion on a G5. It's technically impossible, as Lion, and Snow Leopard before it, only run on Intel machines. Leopard is the last OS that will run on a G5
>
> As for purchasing Lion from Apple, it is was widely discussed in the pro community when Lion was pulled that Apple could be convinced to sell you Lion under extenuating circumstances. You have to go through Customer Support I believe, not the stores, and it can sometimes be difficult to find someone in the organization who is aware that this is possible, so if they tell you know, say thank you and call again. Ask to speak to a supervisor to plead your case.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
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> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins-at-
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> On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
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>> On Thursday, Aug 23, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote in part:
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>>> But wait! I'm remembering some advice I heard. Call Apple directly (customer support), or better yet, go to the Apple Genius bar with your machine, and ask, beg, cajole. I'm told that Apple will still sell Leopard to customers who request it and can't run later OS's. And the Apple Geniuses really like to please customers. Do a full backup before you go and see if you can convince them to nuke and pave with Leopard.
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>> Anyone actually done this yet? More important, does anyone think it will it work with Lion? (My wife's mini won't run Mt. Lion and we'd love to get us both into the cloud!)
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>> Dave Jones
>> iMac 2.4 Intel
>> Snow Leopard
>> OS X 10.6.8
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
Sorry, miss-typed. Leopard was the OS in question, not Lion. Lion is still officially available from Apple directly. Call 1-800MYAPPLE and ask nicely.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
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> On 23 Aug 2012, at 06:33 PM, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com > wrote:
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> > Have not done this personally, or read accounts. However, I am certain that Geniuses have access to full installs of all the major OS versions and can reistall them for you. Have discussed this with Geniuses. Under what conditions or terms, I don't know. To get one to install Lion on a G5 (they know that G5's never had Lion) you may have to use your best persuasion skills.
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> Try as you might, but you will never get them to install Lion on a G5. It's technically impossible, as Lion, and Snow Leopard before it, only run on Intel machines. Leopard is the last OS that will run on a G5
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> > As for purchasing Lion from Apple, it is was widely discussed in the pro community when Lion was pulled that Apple could be convinced to sell you Lion under extenuating circumstances. You have to go through Customer Support I believe, not the stores, and it can sometimes be difficult to find someone in the organization who is aware that this is possible, so if they tell you know, say thank you and call again. Ask to speak to a supervisor to plead your case.
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> > Cheers,
> > tod
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> > Tod Hopkins
> > Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> > todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
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> > On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
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> >> On Thursday, Aug 23, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote in part:
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> >>> But wait! I'm remembering some advice I heard. Call Apple directly (customer support), or better yet, go to the Apple Genius bar with your machine, and ask, beg, cajole. I'm told that Apple will still sell Leopard to customers who request it and can't run later OS's. And the Apple Geniuses really like to please customers. Do a full backup before you go and see if you can convince them to nuke and pave with Leopard.
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> >> Anyone actually done this yet? More important, does anyone think it will it work with Lion? (My wife's mini won't run Mt. Lion and we'd love to get us both into the cloud!)
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> >> Dave Jones
> >> iMac 2.4 Intel
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Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-
On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
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> On 23 Aug 2012, at 06:33 PM, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncar
>
> > Have not done this personally, or read accounts. However, I am certain that Geniuses have access to full installs of all the major OS versions and can reistall them for you. Have discussed this with Geniuses. Under what conditions or terms, I don't know. To get one to install Lion on a G5 (they know that G5's never had Lion) you may have to use your best persuasion skills.
>
> Try as you might, but you will never get them to install Lion on a G5. It's technically impossible, as Lion, and Snow Leopard before it, only run on Intel machines. Leopard is the last OS that will run on a G5
>
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> > As for purchasing Lion from Apple, it is was widely discussed in the pro community when Lion was pulled that Apple could be convinced to sell you Lion under extenuating circumstances. You have to go through Customer Support I believe, not the stores, and it can sometimes be difficult to find someone in the organization who is aware that this is possible, so if they tell you know, say thank you and call again. Ask to speak to a supervisor to plead your case.
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> > Cheers,
> > tod
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> > Tod Hopkins
> > Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> > todhopkins-at-
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> > On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
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> >> On Thursday, Aug 23, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote in part:
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> >>> But wait! I'm remembering some advice I heard. Call Apple directly (customer support), or better yet, go to the Apple Genius bar with your machine, and ask, beg, cajole. I'm told that Apple will still sell Leopard to customers who request it and can't run later OS's. And the Apple Geniuses really like to please customers. Do a full backup before you go and see if you can convince them to nuke and pave with Leopard.
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> >> Anyone actually done this yet? More important, does anyone think it will it work with Lion? (My wife's mini won't run Mt. Lion and we'd love to get us both into the cloud!)
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> >> Dave Jones
> >> iMac 2.4 Intel
> >> Snow Leopard
> >> OS X 10.6.8
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507
Did the update all is well and my MacBook Pro Retina now only is taking 1.9
seconds to get to the desktop so nice.
Mike
On 8/23/12 11:05 AM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.com > wrote:
> Apple released OS X 10.8.1 this morning:
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apples-first-mountain-lion-available-154351116.h
> tml
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> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
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> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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seconds to get to the desktop so nice.
Mike
On 8/23/12 11:05 AM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.
> Apple released OS X 10.8.1 this morning:
> http://finance.
> tml
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> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
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> http://www.macattor
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Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:35 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Is that from sleep?
Otto
On 23 August 2012 19:21, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.com > wrote:
> Did the update all is well and my MacBook Pro Retina now only is taking 1.9
> seconds to get to the desktop so nice.
>
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Otto
On 23 August 2012 19:21, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.
> Did the update all is well and my MacBook Pro Retina now only is taking 1.9
> seconds to get to the desktop so nice.
>
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507
No it is from Start up that how fast this MacBook Pro Retina has gotten with
the flash Drive.
Mike
On 8/23/12 5:34 PM, "Otto Nikolaus" <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com > wrote:
> Is that from sleep?
>
> Otto
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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the flash Drive.
Mike
On 8/23/12 5:34 PM, "Otto Nikolaus" <otto.nikolaus@
> Is that from sleep?
>
> Otto
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"hflaxman001@yahoo.com" hflaxman001
Tempting as heck!
Now I'm debating whether or not to dust off one of my cards to buy one! Been toying with the idea since the machine was introduced.
Harry Flaxman
via ::gulp:: android
--- Original Message ---
From: "Michael King" <Mking8@gmail.com >
Sent: August 23, 2012 6:41 PM
To: "Y MacSupportCentral" <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com >
Subject: Re: [macsupport] OS X 10.8.1 Now Available
No it is from Start up that how fast this MacBook Pro Retina has gotten with
the flash Drive.
Mike
On 8/23/12 5:34 PM, "Otto Nikolaus" <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com > wrote:
> Is that from sleep?
>
> O
Now I'm debating whether or not to dust off one of my cards to buy one! Been toying with the idea since the machine was introduced.
Harry Flaxman
via ::gulp:: android
--- Original Message ---
From: "Michael King" <Mking8@gmail.
Sent: August 23, 2012 6:41 PM
To: "Y MacSupportCentral" <macsupportcentral@
Subject: Re: [macsupport] OS X 10.8.1 Now Available
No it is from Start up that how fast this MacBook Pro Retina has gotten with
the flash Drive.
Mike
On 8/23/12 5:34 PM, "Otto Nikolaus" <otto.nikolaus@
> Is that from sleep?
>
> O
Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507
I just got the base model with the 256GB SSD and 8 GB Ram now OWC has a 480
GB for $579.99 SSD that fits into the Retina MacBook Pro I have and will
put it in Saturday. But this thing is fast boot up fast launching apps there
is a bit of a lag in switching screen but 10.8.1 seems to have fixed that as
well.
Mike
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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GB for $579.99 SSD that fits into the Retina MacBook Pro I have and will
put it in Saturday. But this thing is fast boot up fast launching apps there
is a bit of a lag in switching screen but 10.8.1 seems to have fixed that as
well.
Mike
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
That is amazing.
Are you getting the time from one of the system logs? Which one?
Otto
On 23 August 2012 23:41, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.com > wrote:
> No it is from Start up that how fast this MacBook Pro Retina has gotten
> with
> the flash Drive.
>
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Are you getting the time from one of the system logs? Which one?
Otto
On 23 August 2012 23:41, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.
> No it is from Start up that how fast this MacBook Pro Retina has gotten
> with
> the flash Drive.
>
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> I just got the base model with the 256GB SSD and 8 GB Ram now OWC has a 480 GB for $579.99 SSD that fits into the Retina MacBook Pro I have and will put it in Saturday. But this thing is fast boot up fast launching apps there is a bit of a lag in switching screen but 10.8.1 seems to have fixed that as well.
> Mike
Apple's warranty service is so good, I would hate to void my warranty is a machine that's only a couple of months old.
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> Mike
Apple's warranty service is so good, I would hate to void my warranty is a machine that's only a couple of months old.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"hflaxman001@yahoo.com" harry.flaxman
I questioned a genius about voiding warrantee or Applecare by replacing an internal drive. I was told that the iMac would still be covered, just not the drive.
I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.
H
Harry Flaxman
via ::gulp:: android
--- Original Message ---
From: "Jim Saklad" <jimdoc@me.com>
Sent: August 23, 2012 7:27 PM
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [macsupport] OS X 10.8.1 Now Available
> I just got the base model with the 256GB SSD and 8 GB Ram now OWC has a 480 GB for $579.99 SSD that fits into the Retina MacBook Pro I have and will put it in Saturday. But this thing is fast boot up fast launching apps there is a bit of a lag in switching screen but 10.8.1 seems to have fixed that as well.
> Mike
Apple's warranty service is so good, I would hate to void my warranty is a machine that's only a couple of months old.
I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.
H
Harry Flaxman
via ::gulp:: android
--- Original Message ---
From: "Jim Saklad" <jimdoc@me.com>
Sent: August 23, 2012 7:27 PM
To: macsupportcentral@
Subject: Re: [macsupport] OS X 10.8.1 Now Available
> I just got the base model with the 256GB SSD and 8 GB Ram now OWC has a 480 GB for $579.99 SSD that fits into the Retina MacBook Pro I have and will put it in Saturday. But this thing is fast boot up fast launching apps there is a bit of a lag in switching screen but 10.8.1 seems to have fixed that as well.
> Mike
Apple's warranty service is so good, I would hate to void my warranty is a machine that's only a couple of months old.
Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> I questioned a genius about voiding warrantee or Applecare by replacing an internal drive. I was told that the iMac would still be covered, just not the drive.
>
> I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
>
> This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.
I suspect that it still applies to machines like my MacbookPro5,1 that were designed for an easily-swapped 2.5" rotating-disk hard drive.
But does it apply to a Retina Macbook Pro? or to a Macbook Air?
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>
> I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
>
> This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.
I suspect that it still applies to machines like my MacbookPro5,
But does it apply to a Retina Macbook Pro? or to a Macbook Air?
--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507
I asked and yes only thing would not be covered is the drive but if I have
trouble down the road that is not caused by the drive I can put the old one
back in and all would be covered.
Mike
On 8/23/12 6:50 PM, "hflaxman001@yahoo.com " <hflaxman001@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I questioned a genius about voiding warrantee or Applecare by replacing an
> internal drive. I was told that the iMac would still be covered, just not the
> drive.
>
> I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
>
> This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.
>
> H
>
>
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> Harry Flaxman
> via ::gulp:: android
>
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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trouble down the road that is not caused by the drive I can put the old one
back in and all would be covered.
Mike
On 8/23/12 6:50 PM, "hflaxman001@
> I questioned a genius about voiding warrantee or Applecare by replacing an
> internal drive. I was told that the iMac would still be covered, just not the
> drive.
>
> I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
>
> This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.
>
> H
>
>
>
> Harry Flaxman
> via ::gulp:: android
>
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507
I have a 2011 Air and asked about that as well only thing not covered is a
Drive and third party Memory and as long as that you did not damage the
computer after adding ram or drive it is covered. The Air only has a 480GB
Drive Ram is as it came.
Mike
On 8/23/12 7:09 PM, "Jim Saklad" <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
>> I questioned a genius about voiding warrantee or Applecare by replacing an
>> internal drive. I was told that the iMac would still be covered, just not
>> the drive.
>>
>> I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
>>
>> This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.
>
> I suspect that it still applies to machines like my MacbookPro5,1 that were
> designed for an easily-swapped 2.5" rotating-disk hard drive.
>
> But does it apply to a Retina Macbook Pro? or to a Macbook Air?
>
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> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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Drive and third party Memory and as long as that you did not damage the
computer after adding ram or drive it is covered. The Air only has a 480GB
Drive Ram is as it came.
Mike
On 8/23/12 7:09 PM, "Jim Saklad" <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
>> I questioned a genius about voiding warrantee or Applecare by replacing an
>> internal drive. I was told that the iMac would still be covered, just not
>> the drive.
>>
>> I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
>>
>> This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.
>
> I suspect that it still applies to machines like my MacbookPro5,
> designed for an easily-swapped 2.5" rotating-disk hard drive.
>
> But does it apply to a Retina Macbook Pro? or to a Macbook Air?
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)
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