Right. Still wondering about my iMac and its construction. I had an onsite repair by Apple and watched the whole.procedure. My optical drive and glass were replaced. It was quite an ordeal just to get to the drive.

Having started in hardware many years ago, I wouldn't attempt this one. Computers have become like cars over the years, smaller and more compact. It took the tech 3 tries to get a small ribbon cable seated properly to get the blowers working again. Almost 3 reassemblies in total. Frustrating.

I can attest to the fact that the normally unseen casing was as appealing as the exterior casing. The aluminum was just as 'finished' inside and out. Steve Jobs' touch showed.

Well designed for such a problem free unit. Worth every penny.

Even many developers have stated they have no plans or desire to develop software for android. Big companies as well.

Being a registered Apple developer, thats great to hear (off.subject a bit, but an aside)

I was looking at it, but no more.

H

Harry Flaxman
via ::gulp:: android

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From: "Jim Saklad" <jimdoc@me.com>
Sent: August 23, 2012 8:09 PM
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [macsupport] OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

> I questioned a genius about voiding warrantee or Applecare by replacing an internal drive. I was told that the iMac would still be covered, just not the drive.
>
> I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
>
> This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.

I suspect that it still applies to machines like my MacbookPro5,1 that were designed for an easily-swapped 2.5" rotating-disk hard drive.

But does it apply to a Retina Macbook Pro? or to a Macbook Air?

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Re: OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> Still wondering about my iMac and its construction. I had an onsite repair by Apple and watched the whole.procedure. My optical drive and glass were replaced. It was quite an ordeal just to get to the drive.
>
> Having started in hardware many years ago, I wouldn't attempt this one. Computers have become like cars over the years, smaller and more compact. It took the tech 3 tries to get a small ribbon cable seated properly to get the blowers working again. Almost 3 reassemblies in total.

<http://www.ifixit.com/Device/iMac_Intel>

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Re: OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:43 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"hflaxman001@yahoo.com" harry.flaxman

iFixit used to have comprehensive repair info in .iso format available for the downloading 'por nada'

I won't have my iMac back until the.3rd and I won't even attempt redownloading using this clunker.of a phone :) I missed the money back return by a day.

After I see what Apple has to offer on the 12th, this will more than likely hit.the junk.drawer for good.

Fortunately.there is no contract!

H

Harry Flaxman
via ::gulp:: android

--- Original Message ---

From: "Jim Saklad" <jimdoc@me.com>
Sent: August 23, 2012 9:10 PM
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [macsupport] OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

> Still wondering about my iMac and its construction. I had an onsite repair by Apple and watched the whole.procedure. My optical drive and glass were replaced. It was quite an ordeal just to get to the drive.
>
> Having started in hardware many years ago, I wouldn't attempt this one. Computers have become like cars over the years, smaller and more compact. It took the tech 3 tries to get a small ribbon cable seated properly to get the blowers working again. Almost 3 reassemblies in total.

<http://www.ifixit.com/Device/iMac_Intel>

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Re: OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"hflaxman001@yahoo.com" harry.flaxman

iFixit also has a comprehensive free iOS and android app. Quite good and appears to have much of their manuals included along with detailed pictures and schematics.

Check out the app store.

H

Harry Flaxman
via ::gulp:: android

--- Original Message ---

From: "Jim Saklad" <jimdoc@me.com>
Sent: August 23, 2012 9:10 PM
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [macsupport] OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

> Still wondering about my iMac and its construction. I had an onsite repair by Apple and watched the whole.procedure. My optical drive and glass were replaced. It was quite an ordeal just to get to the drive.
>
> Having started in hardware many years ago, I wouldn't attempt this one. Computers have become like cars over the years, smaller and more compact. It took the tech 3 tries to get a small ribbon cable seated properly to get the blowers working again. Almost 3 reassemblies in total.

<http://www.ifixit.com/Device/iMac_Intel>

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Re: OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:15 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger

On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:50 PM, hflaxman001@yahoo.com wrote:

> I questioned a genius about voiding warrantee or Applecare by replacing an internal drive. I was told that the iMac would still be covered, just not the drive.
>
> I found this unusual, but a second opinion confirmed this.
>
> This was a year ago, so I don't know how current the info is.

It doesn't matter. That's the law. They can't void your warranty for doing your own service or for using third party parts. However, if you damage something by doing your own service, they don't have to cover that. And if the third party part fails, they don't have to cover that either.

This was all settled many years ago in a lawsuit where a car owner went to a private garage to have his car fixed. General Motors then refused to honor the car's warranty entirely. The court said..."Ah...no."

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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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Re: OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:26 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"hflaxman001@yahoo.com" harry.flaxman

Is this so with any.consumer device?

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From: "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.com>
Sent: August 23, 2012 10:15 PM
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [macsupport] OS X 10.8.1 Now Availa

It doesn't matter. That's the law. They can't void your warranty for doing your own service or for using third party parts. However, if you damage something by doing your own service, they don't have to cover that. And if the third party part fails, they don't have to cover that either.

This was all settled many years ago in a lawsuit where a car owner went to a private garage to have his car fixed. General Motors then refused to honor the car's warranty entirely. The court said..."Ah...no."

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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Re: OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Julie Schultz" julienmark2002

For the people who have updated OS X 10.8.1 did it help with the battery not draining so fast. Let us know if the update fixed it?

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Re: OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:07 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507

I was a problem in Power Nap and on my Retina MacBook Pro yes I think it
helped a lot still watching it though.
Mike
On 8/23/12 10:05 PM, "Julie Schultz" <shellsiv@gmail.com> wrote:

> For the people who have updated OS X 10.8.1 did it help with the battery not
> draining so fast. Let us know if the update fixed it?
>
> ------------------------------------

Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)

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Re: OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

I thought the Retina's flash memory was soldered-innot standard replaceable
SSD format (hard-drive shape).

Otto

On 23 August 2012 23:52, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got the base model with the 256GB SSD and 8 GB Ram now OWC has a 480
> GB for $579.99 SSD that fits into the Retina MacBook Pro I have and will
> put it in Saturday. But this thing is fast boot up fast launching apps
> there
> is a bit of a lag in switching screen but 10.8.1 seems to have fixed that
> as
> well.
>

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Re: OS X 10.8.1 Now Available

Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507

Yes The Memory is soldered in the Drive is a Flash Drive and it is the only
part the is replaceable and OWC has a replacement drive for the Retina
MacBook Pro.
Mike
On 8/24/12 5:26 AM, "Otto Nikolaus" <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I thought the Retina's flash memory was soldered-innot standard replaceable
> SSD format (hard-drive shape).
>
> Otto

Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina)

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Re: mac os question

Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski

Maybe, Tod, but I gave up getting Lion after going through 3 levels of support at Apple (nicely) and then spending time with several employees (including, ultimately, the manager) at the local Apple store. Ended up with "Sorry, but we can't do it."

Either they've changed that or else you spoke to someone willing to break their rule, but I didn't find that person.

...........Mike

On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:54 PM, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:

> Sorry, miss-typed. Leopard was the OS in question, not Lion. Lion is still officially available from Apple directly. Call 1-800MYAPPLE and ask nicely.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> On 23 Aug 2012, at 06:33 PM, T Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Have not done this personally, or read accounts. However, I am certain that Geniuses have access to full installs of all the major OS versions and can reistall them for you. Have discussed this with Geniuses. Under what conditions or terms, I don't know. To get one to install Lion on a G5 (they know that G5's never had Lion) you may have to use your best persuasion skills.
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>> Try as you might, but you will never get them to install Lion on a G5. It's technically impossible, as Lion, and Snow Leopard before it, only run on Intel machines. Leopard is the last OS that will run on a G5
>>
>>>
>>> As for purchasing Lion from Apple, it is was widely discussed in the pro community when Lion was pulled that Apple could be convinced to sell you Lion under extenuating circumstances. You have to go through Customer Support I believe, not the stores, and it can sometimes be difficult to find someone in the organization who is aware that this is possible, so if they tell you know, say thank you and call again. Ask to speak to a supervisor to plead your case.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> tod
>>>
>>> Tod Hopkins
>>> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
>>> todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, Aug 23, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote in part:
>>>>
>>>>> But wait! I'm remembering some advice I heard. Call Apple directly (customer support), or better yet, go to the Apple Genius bar with your machine, and ask, beg, cajole. I'm told that Apple will still sell Leopard to customers who request it and can't run later OS's. And the Apple Geniuses really like to please customers. Do a full backup before you go and see if you can convince them to nuke and pave with Leopard.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone actually done this yet? More important, does anyone think it will it work with Lion? (My wife's mini won't run Mt. Lion and we'd love to get us both into the cloud!)
>>>>
>>>> Dave Jones
>>>> iMac 2.4 Intel
>>>> Snow Leopard
>>>> OS X 10.6.8
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what OS rev will run on my powerBook?

Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bill Brown" gearedloco2001

I have a MacBook 3,1. What's the latest OSX version
that this machine will support?

The assorted esoteric names for hardware versions
leave me totally confused.

TIA!
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Re: what OS rev will run on my powerBook?

Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I have a MacBook 3,1. What's the latest OSX version that this machine will support?

Lion -- 10.7.x

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