8/08/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9053

13 New Messages

Digest #9053
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Re: is my Mac blocking the PC's use of the internet by "Josephine Bacon" baconandeggs_2001
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Re: cleaning Users by "John Engberg" mrmacbyte
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Re: cleaning Users by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Wed Aug 8, 2012 2:15 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

Hi,

We need more details, on how you connect to the router. Wired or
wirelessly ? Is DHCP used, or static IP addresses ?

Assuming the most likely, which is DHCP and wireless, my guess is the
router has not been configured to allow enough DHCP wireless leases at
once. You need to log into the router and check its settings.

Chris

On 08/08/12 09:10, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> We just moved to a new office in which I mostly work alone on my Mac
> but when my business partner who uses a PC tries to connect to the
> Internet it doesn't work except when I am not using it, in other words
> we can only use it one at a time. The internet is from our phone
> provider, the router is upstairs. Is my Mac blocking his use of the
> internet? We had no problems in our old office.
>
> Josephine Bacon
>
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Wed Aug 8, 2012 3:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

I agree. If we know which router we can probably give specific instructions.

Otto

On 8 August 2012 10:15, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We need more details, on how you connect to the router. Wired or
> wirelessly ? Is DHCP used, or static IP addresses ?
>
> Assuming the most likely, which is DHCP and wireless, my guess is the
> router has not been configured to allow enough DHCP wireless leases at
> once. You need to log into the router and check its settings.
>

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Wed Aug 8, 2012 4:14 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Josephine Bacon" baconandeggs_2001

OK, I'll send details, that is probably right, as the router is just
for home use.

JB
On 8 Aug 2012, at 11:22, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> I agree. If we know which router we can probably give specific
> instructions.
>
> Otto
>
> On 8 August 2012 10:15, Chris Jones <jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > We need more details, on how you connect to the router. Wired or
> > wirelessly ? Is DHCP used, or static IP addresses ?
> >
> > Assuming the most likely, which is DHCP and wireless, my guess is
> the
> > router has not been configured to allow enough DHCP wireless
> leases at
> > once. You need to log into the router and check its settings.
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations Limited
179 Kings Cross Road
London WC1x 9BZ
Tel:+44 207 833 0607

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Wed Aug 8, 2012 3:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"John Engberg" mrmacbyte


On Aug 7, 2012, at 11:26 AM, neelie <neeliec2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, John Engberg <mrbyte@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:59 AM, "caribsea@..." <caribsea@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Trying to figure out what's using so much of my hard drive, discovered /Users/(my name) uses more than 281GB of the 320GB HD. What can I get rid of and, more important, what do I absolutely need to leave undisturbed?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Willi
>>> iMac mid2010 OS Lion
>>
>> I'll bet you've got a lot of pictures and music. Is your trash empty? Is your downloads folder empty? Is your iPhoto trash empty? Just open your users folder and do get info on each folder to see its size. To get a good visual representation of your drive, take a look at Disk Explorer.
>>
>> John Engberg
>>
>
> I'm curious, John.
>
> I've never heard of emptying the downloads folder. How is that done?

Open your downloads folder (user/downloads) and see what's there. I have seen downloads folders with 100's of files that should have been deleted.

John

Wed Aug 8, 2012 3:25 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 7 August 2012 20:12, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> Downloads is a standard folder under Home (your user's top level). You
> probably have it the left sidebar of any Finder window. Click on it then
> command-i to get the size. Delete all contents like you would any other
> folder: select any file in the folder, then command-a, then delete.
>
> First, make sure there's nothing you want in there!
>

Just to add to this, it's probably a good idea to switch to list mode and
sort on date before deciding to how much you want to delete.

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Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:03 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"T Hopkins" todhop

I understand your problem with Time Machine. After my initial excitement, I've come to realize it simply does not work in certain situations.

However, if your problem is simply frequency of backup, this can be mitigated. The easiest way is by simply disconnecting the external drive. This is what I do. I connect it once a day in the morning, then disconnect as soon as I notice it is done. Ooop! It just finished. Ejecting disc now. ;) Done.

But there is also a hidden setting for backup frequency and an app that allows you to access the setting. I'm sorry I can't remember the details, but a Google search should find it. The default is every hour on the hour, which can indeed be unnecessary and annoying if you are working with something that has constantly changing small files.

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com

On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:24 AM, Dane Robison wrote:

> On Aug 7, 2012, at 7:40 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
>
> > On Aug 7, 2012, at 11:12 AM, LouisD wrote:
> >
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> I'm a fan of SuperDuper and use it exclusively for all my backups. I have a very robust backup scheme and have never had a problem with a SD backup. The one thing it lacks is the hourly snapshot offered by Time Machine, but I personally have not missed that feature...doesn't mean I won't some day. Sd can create clones, sandbox drives, etc.
> >>
> >> I have also heard good things about Carbon Copy Cloner, but I have no direct experience with it.
> >
> > I have tried both SuperDuper and Carbon Copy Cloner, but just liked the interface better on SuperDuper and paid for it, and have stuck with it. But I think you can't go wrong with either.
> >
> > I alternate weekly clones between two hard drives in an external drive enclosure. I have another external drive that keeps a Time Machine backup. So you can easily have the best of both worlds: full bootable clones on your schedule, and the hourly snapshots from Time Machine.
>
> For reasons I've given before -- mostly having to do with huge Lightroom catalog and previews files -- I just haven't found Time Machine practical as it runs constantly. Like Daly, I tried both Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper, and I prefer SD. However, I've had an intermittent problem with SD since upgrading to Lion. Now and then, it fails to complete a clone and gives me a "no space left on the device" message, even though there's plenty of space.
>
> The first couple times I started over with a full clone (rather than doing an incremental "smart" clone) but holy moly that just takes too long. What I've been doing lately (which may or may not be advisable but it works for me so far) is to switch over to CCC for its version of a smart clone and then back to SD.
>
> Anyone else had this issue?
>
> Dane
>

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Wed Aug 8, 2012 6:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net

I have a Time Capsule that is used with Time Machine. The only time I see an icon for Time Capsule is when Time Machine is running. What I'm wondering is shouldn't the Time Capsule icon show up under iDevices all the time??
Gayle

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Wed Aug 8, 2012 6:18 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dane Robison" macdane1

On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:03 AM, T Hopkins wrote:

> I understand your problem with Time Machine. After my initial excitement, I've come to realize it simply does not work in certain situations.
>
> However, if your problem is simply frequency of backup, this can be mitigated. The easiest way is by simply disconnecting the external drive. This is what I do. I connect it once a day in the morning, then disconnect as soon as I notice it is done. Ooop! It just finished. Ejecting disc now. ;) Done.
>
> But there is also a hidden setting for backup frequency and an app that allows you to access the setting. I'm sorry I can't remember the details, but a Google search should find it. The default is every hour on the hour, which can indeed be unnecessary and annoying if you are working with something that has constantly changing small files.

Hi Tod,

My problem has to do with the fact that the Lightroom catalog and previews files are two huge (many GB each) files that change every time I work in LR. So Time Machine is always backing up because I'm always working in LR and those files need to be backed up. I had a brief chat this past weekend with a guy who shed some light on a way to get Time Machine to work at the block level rather than the file level, so only small chunks of those huge files would need to be backed up. But I'm nowhere near ready to implement it.

So yeah, I used a utility called Time Machine Scheduler awhile back to manage the backup timing and frequency, but it really didn't help because it still didn't address the problem that Time Machine essentially never finishes backing up.

Thanks,
Dane

Wed Aug 8, 2012 7:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> My problem has to do with the fact that the Lightroom catalog and previews files are two huge (many GB each) files that change every time I work in LR. So Time Machine is always backing up because I'm always working in LR and those files need to be backed up. I had a brief chat this past weekend with a guy who shed some light on a way to get Time Machine to work at the block level rather than the file level, so only small chunks of those huge files would need to be backed up. But I'm nowhere near ready to implement it.

One easy-to-implement solution would be to exclude the LR catalog from the Time Machine backups entirely, and make a different arrangement for backing IT up.

This is what I did when I had a 40GB Linus virtual hard drive file.

Wed Aug 8, 2012 9:11 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"William Coy" coy786


Is everyone aware that you can turn Time Machine OFF in System Preferences and as long as you check "Show Time Machine status in menu bar" you can click "Back Up Now" in the menu bar anytime you want? No need to disconnect your external drive. I found that out by accident!

Bill Coy

On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:03 AM, T Hopkins wrote:

> I understand your problem with Time Machine. After my initial excitement, I've come to realize it simply does not work in certain situations.
>
> However, if your problem is simply frequency of backup, this can be mitigated. The easiest way is by simply disconnecting the external drive. This is what I do. I connect it once a day in the morning, then disconnect as soon as I notice it is done. Ooop! It just finished. Ejecting disc now. ;) Done.
>
> But there is also a hidden setting for backup frequency and an app that allows you to access the setting. I'm sorry I can't remember the details, but a Google search should find it. The default is every hour on the hour, which can indeed be unnecessary and annoying if you are working with something that has constantly changing small files.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
>
>
>
>

Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:13 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"T Hopkins" todhop

You can answer the limited address problem by reversing the test. If the PC is on first, can you connect? If so, it's not limited IP addresses, which seems unlikely with only two PCs.

Do either of you get an IP conflict error? This also seems unlikely as Macs are good at fixing this, unless you are using static address and not DHCP.

Since the router is upstairs, I'm assuming you are wireless. Check to see that your business partner is actually connecting to the router and not to your Mac. Yes, it is possible for him to connect to your Mac wirelessly if you are configured to allow it.

Also make sure that he is actually connected to the router, but not to the Internet. If he becomes disconnected from the router when you turn your Mac on, that's a different problem.

Do you know how to check your network settings? Does he? What I would do is turn off the Mac (or just disconnect) and thenconnect the PC. With the PC's Internet working, go to the network settings and check them all. Now turn on the Mac while watching the PCs settings. Do any change? If you don't see a change right away, try refreshing everything.

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com

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Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:18 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Josephine Bacon" baconandeggs_2001

Dear Tod,

Thanks for the information, he isn't here today but we will try this.
We are connected via the network, not wirelessly.

Josephne Bacon
On 8 Aug 2012, at 13:13, T Hopkins wrote:

> You can answer the limited address problem by reversing the test. If
> the PC is on first, can you connect? If so, it's not limited IP
> addresses, which seems unlikely with only two PCs.
>
> Do either of you get an IP conflict error? This also seems unlikely
> as Macs are good at fixing this, unless you are using static address
> and not DHCP.
>
> Since the router is upstairs, I'm assuming you are wireless. Check
> to see that your business partner is actually connecting to the
> router and not to your Mac. Yes, it is possible for him to connect
> to your Mac wirelessly if you are configured to allow it.
>
> Also make sure that he is actually connected to the router, but not
> to the Internet. If he becomes disconnected from the router when you
> turn your Mac on, that's a different problem.
>
> Do you know how to check your network settings? Does he? What I
> would do is turn off the Mac (or just disconnect) and thenconnect
> the PC. With the PC's Internet working, go to the network settings
> and check them all. Now turn on the Mac while watching the PCs
> settings. Do any change? If you don't see a change right away, try
> refreshing everything.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations Limited
179 Kings Cross Road
London WC1x 9BZ
Tel:+44 207 833 0607

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Wed Aug 8, 2012 9:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"T Hopkins" todhop

Interesting. Does the entire connection break or just the Internet connection? Are you connected to anything else you can test, like a file server? If you can go to the switch/router, there are lights indicating which connections are in use. Figure out which is you and which is him by plugging and unplugging. Are they both lit when you are both connected?

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com

On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Josephine Bacon wrote:

> Dear Tod,
>
> Thanks for the information, he isn't here today but we will try this.
> We are connected via the network, not wirelessly.
>
> Josephne Bacon
> On 8 Aug 2012, at 13:13, T Hopkins wrote:
>
>> You can answer the limited address problem by reversing the test. If
>> the PC is on first, can you connect? If so, it's not limited IP
>> addresses, which seems unlikely with only two PCs.
>>
>> Do either of you get an IP conflict error? This also seems unlikely
>> as Macs are good at fixing this, unless you are using static address
>> and not DHCP.
>>
>> Since the router is upstairs, I'm assuming you are wireless. Check
>> to see that your business partner is actually connecting to the
>> router and not to your Mac. Yes, it is possible for him to connect
>> to your Mac wirelessly if you are configured to allow it.
>>
>> Also make sure that he is actually connected to the router, but not
>> to the Internet. If he becomes disconnected from the router when you
>> turn your Mac on, that's a different problem.
>>
>> Do you know how to check your network settings? Does he? What I
>> would do is turn off the Mac (or just disconnect) and thenconnect
>> the PC. With the PC's Internet working, go to the network settings
>> and check them all. Now turn on the Mac while watching the PCs
>> settings. Do any change? If you don't see a change right away, try
>> refreshing everything.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> tod
>>
>> Tod Hopkins
>> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
>> todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
>>
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>>
>>
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> Josephine Bacon
> Tamr Translations Limited
> 179 Kings Cross Road
> London WC1x 9BZ
> Tel:+44 207 833 0607
>
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