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Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:29 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
What is "there" is the hardware available to the computer. With Disk
Utility running, load a CD and see what changes, then eject the CD and see
what changes again.
Otto
On 10 January 2013 21:53, us2forever us2forever@frontiernet.net > wrote:
> Thank you all. I don't quite understand why it is there but I will just
> ignore it.
>
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Utility running, load a CD and see what changes, then eject the CD and see
what changes again.
Otto
On 10 January 2013 21:53, us2forever us2forever@frontier
> Thank you all. I don't quite understand why it is there but I will just
> ignore it.
>
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:55 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"nhoward5040" nhoward5040
I am the leader of a golf group, where I have several excel files for the finances, and many word documents for instructions for weekly games, various payout schedules, etc. I need to pass this on to the next year's person. I am going to buy a flash drive to put all of the files on. (I have a Macbook Pro running 10.6.8, with Microsoft Office 2011 (the latest version)).
I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I always reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not as good an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac format, will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able to be read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has? Or should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash drives come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a FAT format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
Any ideas? THanks for your advice
Nancy
I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I always reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not as good an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac format, will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able to be read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has? Or should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash drives come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a FAT format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
Any ideas? THanks for your advice
Nancy
Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:57 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"nhoward5040" nhoward5040
The title should read: format for both PC and Mac
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "nhoward5040" wrote:
>
> I am the leader of a golf group, where I have several excel files for the finances, and many word documents for instructions for weekly games, various payout schedules, etc. I need to pass this on to the next year's person. I am going to buy a flash drive to put all of the files on. (I have a Macbook Pro running 10.6.8, with Microsoft Office 2011 (the latest version)).
>
> I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I always reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not as good an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac format, will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able to be read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has? Or should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash drives come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a FAT format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
>
> Any ideas? THanks for your advice
> Nancy
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I am the leader of a golf group, where I have several excel files for the finances, and many word documents for instructions for weekly games, various payout schedules, etc. I need to pass this on to the next year's person. I am going to buy a flash drive to put all of the files on. (I have a Macbook Pro running 10.6.8, with Microsoft Office 2011 (the latest version)).
>
> I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I always reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not as good an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac format, will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able to be read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has? Or should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash drives come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a FAT format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
>
> Any ideas? THanks for your advice
> Nancy
>
Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:02 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"afumado" afumadous
regards,
use FAT or NTFS format, so can be read or written from pc. if using mac
format, pc user should install 3rd party program to read the flash drive
and read / write all data there.
hope thats help.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:57 AM, nhoward5040 lists5040@comcast.net > wrote:
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>
>
> The title should read: format for both PC and Mac
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "nhoward5040" wrote:
> >
> > I am the leader of a golf group, where I have several excel files for
> the finances, and many word documents for instructions for weekly games,
> various payout schedules, etc. I need to pass this on to the next year's
> person. I am going to buy a flash drive to put all of the files on. (I have
> a Macbook Pro running 10.6.8, with Microsoft Office 2011 (the latest
> version)).
> >
> > I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash
> drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the
> Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either
> platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I always
> reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not as good
> an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac format,
> will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able to be
> read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has? Or
> should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash drives
> come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a FAT
> format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
> >
> > Any ideas? THanks for your advice
> > Nancy
> >
>
>
>
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address without this signature, that's absolutely not me.
visit iam.afumado.us for more info :)
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use FAT or NTFS format, so can be read or written from pc. if using mac
format, pc user should install 3rd party program to read the flash drive
and read / write all data there.
hope thats help.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:57 AM, nhoward5040 lists5040@comcast.
> **
>
>
> The title should read: format for both PC and Mac
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > I am the leader of a golf group, where I have several excel files for
> the finances, and many word documents for instructions for weekly games,
> various payout schedules, etc. I need to pass this on to the next year's
> person. I am going to buy a flash drive to put all of the files on. (I have
> a Macbook Pro running 10.6.8, with Microsoft Office 2011 (the latest
> version)).
> >
> > I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash
> drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the
> Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either
> platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I always
> reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not as good
> an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac format,
> will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able to be
> read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has? Or
> should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash drives
> come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a FAT
> format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
> >
> > Any ideas? THanks for your advice
> > Nancy
> >
>
>
>
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this is real email from me. if u got any email used my name and email
address without this signature, that's absolutely not me.
visit iam.afumado.
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:58 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
On Jan 10, 2013, at 4:55 PM, nhoward5040 wrote:
> I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive.
- Windows reads & writes to NTFS, and FAT32
- OS X reads and writes to FAT32 and Mac OS X extended
- OS X can read from, but not write to, NTFS (i.e. it is read only for the Mac)
Most USB flash drives come pre-formatted as FAT32.
____________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:08 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Vandrei Jaques" vandrei_jaques
OS X can write NTFS partition with 3rd party (Paragon NTFS). And also said, Windows users can use 3rd party (MacDrive) to read/write OS X partitions. The easy way is format the device to FAT32.
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De: Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.com >
Para: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2013 23:58
Assunto: Re: [macsupport] format for both PC and MSC
On Jan 10, 2013, at 4:55 PM, nhoward5040 wrote:
> I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive.
- Windows reads & writes to NTFS, and FAT32
- OS X reads and writes to FAT32 and Mac OS X extended
- OS X can read from, but not write to, NTFS (i.e. it is read only for the Mac)
Most USB flash drives come pre-formatted as FAT32.
___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________
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De: Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.
Para: macsupportcentral@
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2013 23:58
Assunto: Re: [macsupport] format for both PC and MSC
On Jan 10, 2013, at 4:55 PM, nhoward5040 wrote:
> I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive.
- Windows reads & writes to NTFS, and FAT32
- OS X reads and writes to FAT32 and Mac OS X extended
- OS X can read from, but not write to, NTFS (i.e. it is read only for the Mac)
Most USB flash drives come pre-formatted as FAT32.
____________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
____________
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:26 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Vandrei Jaques wrote:
> OS X can write NTFS partition with 3rd party (Paragon NTFS). And also said, Windows users can use 3rd party (MacDrive) to read/write OS X partitions.
MacDrive ($50) will allow Windows computers to read drives that are formatted as HFS+:
http://www.mediafou
as will MacDisk ($46):
http://www.macdisk.
and TransMac ($48)
http://www.acutesys
A Mac can write to a NTFS disk using:
NTFS for Mac OS X (free)
http://sourceforge.
NTFS - Mac ($20)
http://www.paragon-
Tuxera NTFS($31)
http://www.tuxera.
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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattor
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:33 am (PST) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
FAT32. Don't make your life complicated. A thumbdrive, it is likely to be formatted FAT32 already. Use Get Info to check. It will say "MS-DOS (FAT32)" in the info. This is the most widely supported disk format. It is the standard format on most removable drives smaller than 16GB. You use it frequently and don't know it.
FAT32 has two general limitations which most people will never notice, but of which one should be aware:
1) File size is limited to 4GB. If you attempt to write a larger file to a FAT32 drive you will get an error. Few off us work with files of that size, but a common example would be a full DVD disc image (slightly larger)
2) Limits on the numbers of files and the length of filename/pathname that are lower than newer formats, but not low enough to cause most of us problems. Example. A FAT32 folder can contain only 16,000 files. Have you ever written 16,000 files to a folder?
Few people ever run into the FAT32 limits. If you need to reformat a drive FAT32, you should use a Mac. Ironically, OS X is MUCH better at FAT32 for cross-platform use than Windows. Do not use the "Erase" function but rather the "Partition" function. There is an "Options" button to change the Partition format to "Master Boot Record" which is important for a cross-platform drive.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
On Jan 10, 2013, at 7:55 PM, nhoward5040 wrote:
> I am the leader of a golf group, where I have several excel files for the finances, and many word documents for instructions for weekly games, various payout schedules, etc. I need to pass this on to the next year's person. I am going to buy a flash drive to put all of the files on. (I have a Macbook Pro running 10.6.8, with Microsoft Office 2011 (the latest version)).
>
> I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I always reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not as good an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac format, will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able to be read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has? Or should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash drives come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a FAT format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
>
> Any ideas? THanks for your advice
> Nancy
>
>
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FAT32 has two general limitations which most people will never notice, but of which one should be aware:
1) File size is limited to 4GB. If you attempt to write a larger file to a FAT32 drive you will get an error. Few off us work with files of that size, but a common example would be a full DVD disc image (slightly larger)
2) Limits on the numbers of files and the length of filename/pathname that are lower than newer formats, but not low enough to cause most of us problems. Example. A FAT32 folder can contain only 16,000 files. Have you ever written 16,000 files to a folder?
Few people ever run into the FAT32 limits. If you need to reformat a drive FAT32, you should use a Mac. Ironically, OS X is MUCH better at FAT32 for cross-platform use than Windows. Do not use the "Erase" function but rather the "Partition&quo
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-
On Jan 10, 2013, at 7:55 PM, nhoward5040 wrote:
> I am the leader of a golf group, where I have several excel files for the finances, and many word documents for instructions for weekly games, various payout schedules, etc. I need to pass this on to the next year's person. I am going to buy a flash drive to put all of the files on. (I have a Macbook Pro running 10.6.8, with Microsoft Office 2011 (the latest version)).
>
> I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I always reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not as good an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac format, will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able to be read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has? Or should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash drives come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a FAT format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
>
> Any ideas? THanks for your advice
> Nancy
>
>
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:41 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Dane Reugger" dar2112
Or use exFat if you need to store larger files.
-Dane
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Vandrei Jaques vandrei_jaques@yahoo.com.br
> wrote:
> OS X can write NTFS partition with 3rd party (Paragon NTFS). And also
> said, Windows users can use 3rd party (MacDrive) to read/write OS X
> partitions. The easy way is format the device to FAT32.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> De: Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.com >
> Para: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
> Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2013 23:58
> Assunto: Re: [macsupport] format for both PC and MSC
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2013, at 4:55 PM, nhoward5040 wrote:
>
> > I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash
> drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the
> Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either
> platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive.
>
> - Windows reads & writes to NTFS, and FAT32
>
> - OS X reads and writes to FAT32 and Mac OS X extended
>
> - OS X can read from, but not write to, NTFS (i.e. it is read only for the
> Mac)
>
> Most USB flash drives come pre-formatted as FAT32.
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Vandrei Jaques vandrei_jaques@
> wrote:
> OS X can write NTFS partition with 3rd party (Paragon NTFS). And also
> said, Windows users can use 3rd party (MacDrive) to read/write OS X
> partitions. The easy way is format the device to FAT32.
>
>
>
> ____________
> De: Randy B. Singer randy@macattorney.
> Para: macsupportcentral@
> Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2013 23:58
> Assunto: Re: [macsupport] format for both PC and MSC
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2013, at 4:55 PM, nhoward5040 wrote:
>
> > I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash
> drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the
> Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either
> platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive.
>
> - Windows reads & writes to NTFS, and FAT32
>
> - OS X reads and writes to FAT32 and Mac OS X extended
>
> - OS X can read from, but not write to, NTFS (i.e. it is read only for the
> Mac)
>
> Most USB flash drives come pre-formatted as FAT32.
>
> ____________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattor
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