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Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:54 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
Thank you Brent.
Yes I'm asking for help.
I stated in my message that I had removed *all* log-in items and the problem still persists for this one user.
But *something* that is loading for this user must be causing the problem...
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
-=-=-=-
On 16 January 2013, at 2:32 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> I assume you are asking for help, but I don't see a question. If you are indeed asking for help, then go back to basics.
>
> 1- Remove half of your log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 2- IF: QL works, THEN: remove these items and add in the other half of the log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 3- Continue until you find the one log-in items that is causing the problem. Otherwise, return to step 1.
>
> You will probably figure it out in 6 cycles or less. Without a ton more info about your system, there is no way for us to figure it out.
>
> Brent
-=-=-=-
> I've been having a problem with QuickLook. Audio files will not play. When an audio file is selected in Finder and the Space bar is pressed, the file looks like everything is fine (icon opens large and the progress bar begins moving), but no sound is heard. If these same files are played in iTunes, all is as expected.
>
> If I boot using a different user, QL behaves normally: these same files play.
>
> In my (normal) user I've eliminated all Log-In items (System Preferences > Users > Log-In Items) and rebooted. No joy.
>
> I've reinstalled the OS several times, including the combo updater (10.6.8) (downloaded from Apple) also several times.
>
> But since all is well under a different user I needn't have re-installed the OS. That was a "end of the rope" decision.
>
> Obviously the cause must be something that is loading for this user that is not loading for the other users. How can I determine what else is loading at boot time so as to eliminate these?
>
> I can't boot in "Safe Mode" because this disallows Quick Look to load.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
Yes I'm asking for help.
I stated in my message that I had removed *all* log-in items and the problem still persists for this one user.
But *something* that is loading for this user must be causing the problem...
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
-=-=-=-
On 16 January 2013, at 2:32 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> I assume you are asking for help, but I don't see a question. If you are indeed asking for help, then go back to basics.
>
> 1- Remove half of your log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 2- IF: QL works, THEN: remove these items and add in the other half of the log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 3- Continue until you find the one log-in items that is causing the problem. Otherwise, return to step 1.
>
> You will probably figure it out in 6 cycles or less. Without a ton more info about your system, there is no way for us to figure it out.
>
> Brent
-=-=-=-
> I've been having a problem with QuickLook. Audio files will not play. When an audio file is selected in Finder and the Space bar is pressed, the file looks like everything is fine (icon opens large and the progress bar begins moving), but no sound is heard. If these same files are played in iTunes, all is as expected.
>
> If I boot using a different user, QL behaves normally: these same files play.
>
> In my (normal) user I've eliminated all Log-In items (System Preferences > Users > Log-In Items) and rebooted. No joy.
>
> I've reinstalled the OS several times, including the combo updater (10.6.8) (downloaded from Apple) also several times.
>
> But since all is well under a different user I needn't have re-installed the OS. That was a "end of the rope" decision.
>
> Obviously the cause must be something that is loading for this user that is not loading for the other users. How can I determine what else is loading at boot time so as to eliminate these?
>
> I can't boot in "Safe Mode" because this disallows Quick Look to load.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:57 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
I missed that you tried removing all and it did not work. Then it is not a log-in-item.
What format file are you trying to listen to with QuickLook?
On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
Thank you Brent.
Yes I'm asking for help.
I stated in my message that I had removed *all* log-in items and the problem still persists for this one user.
But *something* that is loading for this user must be causing the problem...
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
-=-=-=-
On 16 January 2013, at 2:32 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> I assume you are asking for help, but I don't see a question. If you are indeed asking for help, then go back to basics.
>
> 1- Remove half of your log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 2- IF: QL works, THEN: remove these items and add in the other half of the log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 3- Continue until you find the one log-in items that is causing the problem. Otherwise, return to step 1.
>
> You will probably figure it out in 6 cycles or less. Without a ton more info about your system, there is no way for us to figure it out.
>
> Brent
-=-=-=-
> I've been having a problem with QuickLook. Audio files will not play. When an audio file is selected in Finder and the Space bar is pressed, the file looks like everything is fine (icon opens large and the progress bar begins moving), but no sound is heard. If these same files are played in iTunes, all is as expected.
>
> If I boot using a different user, QL behaves normally: these same files play.
>
> In my (normal) user I've eliminated all Log-In items (System Preferences > Users > Log-In Items) and rebooted. No joy.
>
> I've reinstalled the OS several times, including the combo updater (10.6.8) (downloaded from Apple) also several times.
>
> But since all is well under a different user I needn't have re-installed the OS. That was a "end of the rope" decision.
>
> Obviously the cause must be something that is loading for this user that is not loading for the other users. How can I determine what else is loading at boot time so as to eliminate these?
>
> I can't boot in "Safe Mode" because this disallows Quick Look to load.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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What format file are you trying to listen to with QuickLook?
On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
Thank you Brent.
Yes I'm asking for help.
I stated in my message that I had removed *all* log-in items and the problem still persists for this one user.
But *something* that is loading for this user must be causing the problem...
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
-=-=-=-
On 16 January 2013, at 2:32 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> I assume you are asking for help, but I don't see a question. If you are indeed asking for help, then go back to basics.
>
> 1- Remove half of your log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 2- IF: QL works, THEN: remove these items and add in the other half of the log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 3- Continue until you find the one log-in items that is causing the problem. Otherwise, return to step 1.
>
> You will probably figure it out in 6 cycles or less. Without a ton more info about your system, there is no way for us to figure it out.
>
> Brent
-=-=-=-
> I've been having a problem with QuickLook. Audio files will not play. When an audio file is selected in Finder and the Space bar is pressed, the file looks like everything is fine (icon opens large and the progress bar begins moving), but no sound is heard. If these same files are played in iTunes, all is as expected.
>
> If I boot using a different user, QL behaves normally: these same files play.
>
> In my (normal) user I've eliminated all Log-In items (System Preferences > Users > Log-In Items) and rebooted. No joy.
>
> I've reinstalled the OS several times, including the combo updater (10.6.8) (downloaded from Apple) also several times.
>
> But since all is well under a different user I needn't have re-installed the OS. That was a "end of the rope" decision.
>
> Obviously the cause must be something that is loading for this user that is not loading for the other users. How can I determine what else is loading at boot time so as to eliminate these?
>
> I can't boot in "Safe Mode" because this disallows Quick Look to load.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:11 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
I don't think it is a log-in item. Can QuickLook play that format of audio file? Do you have and can QL access the proper codex to play the file?
QL is not intended as a universal audio player, it is a app that gives you quick access to files, only.
On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
Thank you Brent.
Yes I'm asking for help.
I stated in my message that I had removed *all* log-in items and the problem still persists for this one user.
But *something* that is loading for this user must be causing the problem...
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
-=-=-=-
On 16 January 2013, at 2:32 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> I assume you are asking for help, but I don't see a question. If you are indeed asking for help, then go back to basics.
>
> 1- Remove half of your log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 2- IF: QL works, THEN: remove these items and add in the other half of the log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 3- Continue until you find the one log-in items that is causing the problem. Otherwise, return to step 1.
>
> You will probably figure it out in 6 cycles or less. Without a ton more info about your system, there is no way for us to figure it out.
>
> Brent
-=-=-=-
> I've been having a problem with QuickLook. Audio files will not play. When an audio file is selected in Finder and the Space bar is pressed, the file looks like everything is fine (icon opens large and the progress bar begins moving), but no sound is heard. If these same files are played in iTunes, all is as expected.
>
> If I boot using a different user, QL behaves normally: these same files play.
>
> In my (normal) user I've eliminated all Log-In items (System Preferences > Users > Log-In Items) and rebooted. No joy.
>
> I've reinstalled the OS several times, including the combo updater (10.6.8) (downloaded from Apple) also several times.
>
> But since all is well under a different user I needn't have re-installed the OS. That was a "end of the rope" decision.
>
> Obviously the cause must be something that is loading for this user that is not loading for the other users. How can I determine what else is loading at boot time so as to eliminate these?
>
> I can't boot in "Safe Mode" because this disallows Quick Look to load.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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QL is not intended as a universal audio player, it is a app that gives you quick access to files, only.
On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
Thank you Brent.
Yes I'm asking for help.
I stated in my message that I had removed *all* log-in items and the problem still persists for this one user.
But *something* that is loading for this user must be causing the problem...
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
-=-=-=-
On 16 January 2013, at 2:32 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> I assume you are asking for help, but I don't see a question. If you are indeed asking for help, then go back to basics.
>
> 1- Remove half of your log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 2- IF: QL works, THEN: remove these items and add in the other half of the log-in items. Restart & test.
>
> 3- Continue until you find the one log-in items that is causing the problem. Otherwise, return to step 1.
>
> You will probably figure it out in 6 cycles or less. Without a ton more info about your system, there is no way for us to figure it out.
>
> Brent
-=-=-=-
> I've been having a problem with QuickLook. Audio files will not play. When an audio file is selected in Finder and the Space bar is pressed, the file looks like everything is fine (icon opens large and the progress bar begins moving), but no sound is heard. If these same files are played in iTunes, all is as expected.
>
> If I boot using a different user, QL behaves normally: these same files play.
>
> In my (normal) user I've eliminated all Log-In items (System Preferences > Users > Log-In Items) and rebooted. No joy.
>
> I've reinstalled the OS several times, including the combo updater (10.6.8) (downloaded from Apple) also several times.
>
> But since all is well under a different user I needn't have re-installed the OS. That was a "end of the rope" decision.
>
> Obviously the cause must be something that is loading for this user that is not loading for the other users. How can I determine what else is loading at boot time so as to eliminate these?
>
> I can't boot in "Safe Mode" because this disallows Quick Look to load.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:21 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
Another user on this mini was created and no custom installs or add-ons (no codexes added, etc.) were added/installed. This user can Quick Look play mp3 files. That tells me that no additional codecs are needed to play mp3 files.
My main user (the one I created when I first installed the OS) cannot play these same files.
Something is keeping QL from working for the main user...
Dave
-=-=-=-
On 16 January 2013, at 10:11 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> I don't think it is a log-in item. Can QuickLook play that format of audio file? Do you have and can QL access the proper codex to play the file?
>
> QL is not intended as a universal audio player, it is a app that gives you quick access to files, only.
>
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
My main user (the one I created when I first installed the OS) cannot play these same files.
Something is keeping QL from working for the main user...
Dave
-=-=-=-
On 16 January 2013, at 10:11 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> I don't think it is a log-in item. Can QuickLook play that format of audio file? Do you have and can QL access the proper codex to play the file?
>
> QL is not intended as a universal audio player, it is a app that gives you quick access to files, only.
>
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Dave C wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:52 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
There used to be a weird bug which caused audio to stop playing. It was to
do with Audio MIDI Setup but the fix was to run Garage Band and then close
it (without doing anything else). Worth a try?
Otto
On 17 January 2013 06:21, Dave C davec2468@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Another user on this mini was created and no custom installs or add-ons
> (no codexes added, etc.) were added/installed. This user can Quick Look
> play mp3 files. That tells me that no additional codecs are needed to play
> mp3 files.
>
> My main user (the one I created when I first installed the OS) cannot play
> these same files.
>
> Something is keeping QL from working for the main user...
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
do with Audio MIDI Setup but the fix was to run Garage Band and then close
it (without doing anything else). Worth a try?
Otto
On 17 January 2013 06:21, Dave C davec2468@yahoo.
> Another user on this mini was created and no custom installs or add-ons
> (no codexes added, etc.) were added/installed. This user can Quick Look
> play mp3 files. That tells me that no additional codecs are needed to play
> mp3 files.
>
> My main user (the one I created when I first installed the OS) cannot play
> these same files.
>
> Something is keeping QL from working for the main user...
>
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Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:02 am (PST) . Posted by:
"John Richardson"
Hello,
I can use Activity Monitor to get the parent process, PID and various other
information.
Is there a good source of up to date information on the most likely
processes listed in the Activity Monitor. Also, Frameworks. Not just the
running information, but the purpose of the process ["it controls the
printing",....].
Examples: rpc.geo, rpc.net and their frameworks.
I have been searching the developer site but there does not seem to be a
document with all the information collated. Searching the developer site is
not very user friendly. Perhaps I do not have the "search secret sauce".
John F. Richardson
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I can use Activity Monitor to get the parent process, PID and various other
information.
Is there a good source of up to date information on the most likely
processes listed in the Activity Monitor. Also, Frameworks. Not just the
running information, but the purpose of the process ["it controls the
printing"
Examples: rpc.geo, rpc.net and their frameworks.
I have been searching the developer site but there does not seem to be a
document with all the information collated. Searching the developer site is
not very user friendly. Perhaps I do not have the "search secret sauce".
John F. Richardson
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:06 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
Otto, you may be on to the solution...
I ran GB and got an error message saying that there is no valid Instrument Library folder in the system Library folder and to reinstall GB.
I remember deleting all things related to GB (in the original Snow Leopard install last year) as I never use it. Maybe the OS relies on some files in that folder?
I'm a bit surprised that GB & Library items were not installed during one of the subsequent (three?) SL installs I have done in the past year.
In any case I'll re-install GB from the SL Install Disc.
Thanks, and I'll keep y'all posted...
Dave
PS: doesn't a replace install ALL applications & system files? I always presumed this...
-=-=-=-
> There used to be a weird bug which caused audio to stop playing. It was to
> do with Audio MIDI Setup but the fix was to run Garage Band and then close
> it (without doing anything else). Worth a try?
>
> Otto
I ran GB and got an error message saying that there is no valid Instrument Library folder in the system Library folder and to reinstall GB.
I remember deleting all things related to GB (in the original Snow Leopard install last year) as I never use it. Maybe the OS relies on some files in that folder?
I'm a bit surprised that GB & Library items were not installed during one of the subsequent (three?) SL installs I have done in the past year.
In any case I'll re-install GB from the SL Install Disc.
Thanks, and I'll keep y'all posted...
Dave
PS: doesn't a replace install ALL applications & system files? I always presumed this...
-=-=-=-
> There used to be a weird bug which caused audio to stop playing. It was to
> do with Audio MIDI Setup but the fix was to run Garage Band and then close
> it (without doing anything else). Worth a try?
>
> Otto
Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:10 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
You might want to try the other path and run Audio MIDI Setup and play with
the settings there.
Otto
On 17 January 2013 20:06, Dave C davec2468@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Otto, you may be on to the solution...
>
> I ran GB and got an error message saying that there is no valid Instrument
> Library folder in the system Library folder and to reinstall GB.
>
> I remember deleting all things related to GB (in the original Snow Leopard
> install last year) as I never use it. Maybe the OS relies on some files in
> that folder?
>
> I'm a bit surprised that GB & Library items were not installed during one
> of the subsequent (three?) SL installs I have done in the past year.
>
> In any case I'll re-install GB from the SL Install Disc.
>
> Thanks, and I'll keep y'all posted...
>
> Dave
>
> PS: doesn't a replace install ALL applications & system files? I always
> presumed this...
>
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the settings there.
Otto
On 17 January 2013 20:06, Dave C davec2468@yahoo.
> Otto, you may be on to the solution...
>
> I ran GB and got an error message saying that there is no valid Instrument
> Library folder in the system Library folder and to reinstall GB.
>
> I remember deleting all things related to GB (in the original Snow Leopard
> install last year) as I never use it. Maybe the OS relies on some files in
> that folder?
>
> I'm a bit surprised that GB & Library items were not installed during one
> of the subsequent (three?) SL installs I have done in the past year.
>
> In any case I'll re-install GB from the SL Install Disc.
>
> Thanks, and I'll keep y'all posted...
>
> Dave
>
> PS: doesn't a replace install ALL applications & system files? I always
> presumed this...
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:05 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
A couple of questions.
Who's Kramer?
Why do we care about his (?) daughter's frustration?
What does does his biographer know about how Apple is _now_ run?
No pile on.
Brent
On Jan 16, 2013, at 3:13 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
http://www.thestreet.com/story/11812274/1/cramer-quick-take-waiting-for-apples-omg-product.html
Kramer will not add positions in Apple until he hears of a new OMG announcement. He doesn't care about a cheaper iPhone, growth-wise. He is concerned about Apple flubs w the new iTunes11 which many, including myself, hate, plus the Maps fiasco, and the new plug for the iPhone 5 for a premium priced product. His daughter's frustrated attitude w Apple gave him pause.
Yeah, I know, start the pile on. Just saying, as I have always said, Apple only has innovation as a product, like all techs. When that stops (the author of Jobs' bio says it has stopped at Apple) it gives pause to think. I hope there will be an OMG we don't know about, of course.
But I've been a Mac user for 20+ years and will continue to be as long as the quality is there as it has been and my iPhone4 continues to please.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> I think the big NASDAQ stock price drop was due to what now appears to
> be a wrong and misleading article by the Wall Street Journal.
>
> Apple saw a 4 percent plus uptick today after several news outlets
> reported that the WSJ got it wrong.
>
> Here's a Forbes article on the WSJ and Apple.
>
>
>
> denver Dan
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:50:45 -0500, Bob Cook wrote:
> > I think the problem stems within Apple's current products. Total lack of
> > innovation within iOS. Apps that only work with other iOS devices. Android
> > sharing between apps, iOS extremely limited. If you never used Android, you
> > have no idea what it can do and how iOS is utterly limited. Meanwhile,
> > Apple is stuck with a small wierd screen on the iPhone and no replaceable
> > battery or expandable memory on any iOS device. And questionable Apple
> > apps and a cloud service that falls short. No WiDi, no NFC. No wonder
> > young people are turning away from Apple. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were
> > revolutionary products that just didn't keep up with the times. Hopefully
> > Apple can find it within itself to change and get rid of their Not Invented
> > Here syndrome.
>
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Who's Kramer?
Why do we care about his (?) daughter'
What does does his biographer know about how Apple is _now_ run?
No pile on.
Brent
On Jan 16, 2013, at 3:13 PM, HAL9000 wrote:
http://www.thestree
Kramer will not add positions in Apple until he hears of a new OMG announcement. He doesn't care about a cheaper iPhone, growth-wise. He is concerned about Apple flubs w the new iTunes11 which many, including myself, hate, plus the Maps fiasco, and the new plug for the iPhone 5 for a premium priced product. His daughter'
Yeah, I know, start the pile on. Just saying, as I have always said, Apple only has innovation as a product, like all techs. When that stops (the author of Jobs' bio says it has stopped at Apple) it gives pause to think. I hope there will be an OMG we don't know about, of course.
But I've been a Mac user for 20+ years and will continue to be as long as the quality is there as it has been and my iPhone4 continues to please.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Howdy.
>
> I think the big NASDAQ stock price drop was due to what now appears to
> be a wrong and misleading article by the Wall Street Journal.
>
> Apple saw a 4 percent plus uptick today after several news outlets
> reported that the WSJ got it wrong.
>
> Here's a Forbes article on the WSJ and Apple.
>
>
>
> denver Dan
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:50:45 -0500, Bob Cook wrote:
> > I think the problem stems within Apple's current products. Total lack of
> > innovation within iOS. Apps that only work with other iOS devices. Android
> > sharing between apps, iOS extremely limited. If you never used Android, you
> > have no idea what it can do and how iOS is utterly limited. Meanwhile,
> > Apple is stuck with a small wierd screen on the iPhone and no replaceable
> > battery or expandable memory on any iOS device. And questionable Apple
> > apps and a cloud service that falls short. No WiDi, no NFC. No wonder
> > young people are turning away from Apple. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were
> > revolutionary products that just didn't keep up with the times. Hopefully
> > Apple can find it within itself to change and get rid of their Not Invented
> > Here syndrome.
>
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Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:34 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I think we need to get back on topic. This group is all about helping Mac
and iOS users and *not* about the management of Apple.
Otto
(moderating)
On 17 January 2013 06:05, N.A. Nada whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
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and iOS users and *not* about the management of Apple.
Otto
(moderating)
On 17 January 2013 06:05, N.A. Nada whodo678@comcast.
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