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Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:01 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Dane Robison" macdane1
This has meandered pretty far from the original question, but is still interesting and can be useful to a lot of folks.
The important point, with respect to this current discussion, is that digital cameras typically have TWO settings with significant impact on the quality of the recorded image (aside from the obvious shutter speed, aperture, etc.). One has to do with the number of pixels captured and is generally offered in small/medium/large varieties. The other has to do with the severity of lossy compression applied, and tends to come in normal/fine flavors.
While I don't want to get into the gymnastics of color depth and making the math work, it's worth mentioning that both "size" and "quality" settings should be given some thought. Increasing either means larger files, but decreasing either means potentially limiting what you can ultimately do with the photos. If you shoot in a RAW format, this is all just academic. For most people who shoot JPEGs, though, I recommend bigger *and* better. If a compromise must be made, it's usually best to cut back on size rather than quality.
Dane
On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> Yes, it does, as does any digital camera, size being the pixel dimensions
> and quality being the degree of JPEG compression. What it does *not* have
> is the ability to allow you to select a PPI or DPI figure. These have
> meaning only when combined with the size in inches and the camera knows
> nothing about inches, as Jim said.
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> Your example is 8.6 x 12.9 inches at 300 ppi. True, and it would also give
> you any other size and PPI combination totalling the same pixel dimensions,
> such as
> 2.16 x 3.23 @ 1200
> 4.32 x 6.45 @ 600 PPI
> 17.28 x 25.81 @ 150 PPI
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> The camera knows nothing of that, only the pixel dimensions.
>
> Otto
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> On 14 January 2013 14:47, Denver Dan denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
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>> This is not the case.
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>> As I stated and copied settings directly from my camera, the camera
>> DOES have the ability to determine the size and quality of an image.
>>
>> Whether you call it dpi in printing terminology or ppi in screen
>> display terminology, or large, medium, or small image size settings,
>> the results are digital photos that have a larger or smaller physical
>> dimension in inches or cm when transferred to computer.
>>
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The important point, with respect to this current discussion, is that digital cameras typically have TWO settings with significant impact on the quality of the recorded image (aside from the obvious shutter speed, aperture, etc.). One has to do with the number of pixels captured and is generally offered in small/medium/
While I don't want to get into the gymnastics of color depth and making the math work, it's worth mentioning that both "size" and "quality" settings should be given some thought. Increasing either means larger files, but decreasing either means potentially limiting what you can ultimately do with the photos. If you shoot in a RAW format, this is all just academic. For most people who shoot JPEGs, though, I recommend bigger *and* better. If a compromise must be made, it's usually best to cut back on size rather than quality.
Dane
On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> Yes, it does, as does any digital camera, size being the pixel dimensions
> and quality being the degree of JPEG compression. What it does *not* have
> is the ability to allow you to select a PPI or DPI figure. These have
> meaning only when combined with the size in inches and the camera knows
> nothing about inches, as Jim said.
>
> Your example is 8.6 x 12.9 inches at 300 ppi. True, and it would also give
> you any other size and PPI combination totalling the same pixel dimensions,
> such as
> 2.16 x 3.23 @ 1200
> 4.32 x 6.45 @ 600 PPI
> 17.28 x 25.81 @ 150 PPI
>
> The camera knows nothing of that, only the pixel dimensions.
>
> Otto
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> On 14 January 2013 14:47, Denver Dan denver.dan@verizon.
>
>> This is not the case.
>>
>> As I stated and copied settings directly from my camera, the camera
>> DOES have the ability to determine the size and quality of an image.
>>
>> Whether you call it dpi in printing terminology or ppi in screen
>> display terminology, or large, medium, or small image size settings,
>> the results are digital photos that have a larger or smaller physical
>> dimension in inches or cm when transferred to computer.
>>
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Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:36 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Agreed. You can't get back quality that you don't save in the first place,
and memory cards are so inexpensive now that file size is not an issue
anymore.
Otto
On 14 January 2013 19:01, Dane Robison macdane@mac.com > wrote:
> This has meandered pretty far from the original question, but is still
> interesting and can be useful to a lot of folks.
>
> The important point, with respect to this current discussion, is that
> digital cameras typically have TWO settings with significant impact on the
> quality of the recorded image (aside from the obvious shutter speed,
> aperture, etc.). One has to do with the number of pixels captured and is
> generally offered in small/medium/large varieties. The other has to do with
> the severity of lossy compression applied, and tends to come in normal/fine
> flavors.
>
> While I don't want to get into the gymnastics of color depth and making
> the math work, it's worth mentioning that both "size" and "quality"
> settings should be given some thought. Increasing either means larger
> files, but decreasing either means potentially limiting what you can
> ultimately do with the photos. If you shoot in a RAW format, this is all
> just academic. For most people who shoot JPEGs, though, I recommend bigger
> *and* better. If a compromise must be made, it's usually best to cut back
> on size rather than quality.
>
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and memory cards are so inexpensive now that file size is not an issue
anymore.
Otto
On 14 January 2013 19:01, Dane Robison macdane@mac.
> This has meandered pretty far from the original question, but is still
> interesting and can be useful to a lot of folks.
>
> The important point, with respect to this current discussion, is that
> digital cameras typically have TWO settings with significant impact on the
> quality of the recorded image (aside from the obvious shutter speed,
> aperture, etc.). One has to do with the number of pixels captured and is
> generally offered in small/medium/
> the severity of lossy compression applied, and tends to come in normal/fine
> flavors.
>
> While I don't want to get into the gymnastics of color depth and making
> the math work, it's worth mentioning that both "size" and "quality"
> settings should be given some thought. Increasing either means larger
> files, but decreasing either means potentially limiting what you can
> ultimately do with the photos. If you shoot in a RAW format, this is all
> just academic. For most people who shoot JPEGs, though, I recommend bigger
> *and* better. If a compromise must be made, it's usually best to cut back
> on size rather than quality.
>
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Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:53 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Ken" avliska
I still haven't figured out what the settings are for "default settings"
Ken S.
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Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:31 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
At first I could not figure out what you were talking about. I keep Podcasts in list view not the center tab called Podcasts. Second I could not figure out what you meant by tools icon. I recognize the gear as Settings.
Since I never changed settings that Podcast Setting, as the new window is labeled, and default is still checked. The two options that are greyed out say: "Download the most recent one" & "keep: All episodes". Both being the top option if you open the drop down menus.
On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Ken wrote:
In the latest iTunes, under the tools icon in podcasts, there is a box to check to "use default settings". But it doesn't say what the default settings are. Does anyone know what the default settings are for podcast downloading? Where do I find this info? Can they be changed? Thanks.
Ken S.
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Since I never changed settings that Podcast Setting, as the new window is labeled, and default is still checked. The two options that are greyed out say: "Download the most recent one" & "keep: All episodes"
On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Ken wrote:
In the latest iTunes, under the tools icon in podcasts, there is a box to check to "use default settings"
Ken S.
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Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:58 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Ken" avliska
Sorry for being unclear. I'm trying to be clear. I don't like "list" view. I like "unplayed";. Yes, the "gear" is what I am calling tools icon. I'm un-checking the "defaults' and am using the drop down menus as you suggest. My question is this: what are the parameters or rules that Apple sets up as "default". I just am curious, as I use the drop down because I don't know what the "default" parameters are.
Ken S.
PS Another problem with "unplayed"; is that it goes away, even when new unplayed podcasts download. I have to quit iTunes and relaunch it to get that button back. I've written to Apple to tell them.
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> At first I could not figure out what you were talking about. I keep Podcasts in list view not the center tab called Podcasts. Second I could not figure out what you meant by tools icon. I recognize the gear as Settings.
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> Since I never changed settings that Podcast Setting, as the new window is labeled, and default is still checked. The two options that are greyed out say: "Download the most recent one" & "keep: All episodes". Both being the top option if you open the drop down menus.
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> On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Ken wrote:
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> In the latest iTunes, under the tools icon in podcasts, there is a box to check to "use default settings". But it doesn't say what the default settings are. Does anyone know what the default settings are for podcast downloading? Where do I find this info? Can they be changed? Thanks.
> Ken S.
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Ken S.
PS Another problem with "unplayed"
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> At first I could not figure out what you were talking about. I keep Podcasts in list view not the center tab called Podcasts. Second I could not figure out what you meant by tools icon. I recognize the gear as Settings.
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> Since I never changed settings that Podcast Setting, as the new window is labeled, and default is still checked. The two options that are greyed out say: "Download the most recent one" & "keep: All episodes"
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> On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Ken wrote:
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> In the latest iTunes, under the tools icon in podcasts, there is a box to check to "use default settings"
> Ken S.
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Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:46 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
As I said, the defaults are "Download the most recent one" & "keep: All episodes".
The rest of what I wrote was to show you how I found the answer. The pull down menus are the same for Unplayed and Podcasts.
If by parameters you mean what are your other choices, click on the pull down menus. It only completes the change if you click "ok". And you can always change it back.
Brent
On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Ken wrote:
Sorry for being unclear. I'm trying to be clear. I don't like "list" view. I like "unplayed";. Yes, the "gear" is what I am calling tools icon. I'm un-checking the "defaults' and am using the drop down menus as you suggest. My question is this: what are the parameters or rules that Apple sets up as "default". I just am curious, as I use the drop down because I don't know what the "default" are.
Ken S.
PS Another problem with "unplayed"; is that it goes away, even when new unplayed podcasts download. I have to quit iTunes and relaunch it to get that button back. I've written to Apple to tell them.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "N.A. Nada" wrote:
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> At first I could not figure out what you were talking about. I keep Podcasts in list view not the center tab called Podcasts. Second I could not figure out what you meant by tools icon. I recognize the gear as Settings.
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> Since I never changed settings that Podcast Setting, as the new window is labeled, and default is still checked. The two options that are greyed out say: "Download the most recent one" & "keep: All episodes". Both being the top option if you open the drop down menus.
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> On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Ken wrote:
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> In the latest iTunes, under the tools icon in podcasts, there is a box to check to "use default settings". But it doesn't say what the default settings are. Does anyone know what the default settings are for podcast downloading? Where do I find this info? Can they be changed? Thanks.
> Ken S.
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The rest of what I wrote was to show you how I found the answer. The pull down menus are the same for Unplayed and Podcasts.
If by parameters you mean what are your other choices, click on the pull down menus. It only completes the change if you click "ok"
Brent
On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Ken wrote:
Sorry for being unclear. I'm trying to be clear. I don't like "list" view. I like "unplayed"
Ken S.
PS Another problem with "unplayed"
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> At first I could not figure out what you were talking about. I keep Podcasts in list view not the center tab called Podcasts. Second I could not figure out what you meant by tools icon. I recognize the gear as Settings.
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> Since I never changed settings that Podcast Setting, as the new window is labeled, and default is still checked. The two options that are greyed out say: "Download the most recent one" & "keep: All episodes"
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> On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Ken wrote:
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> In the latest iTunes, under the tools icon in podcasts, there is a box to check to "use default settings"
> Ken S.
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Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:54 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Apple's greatest cheerleader has begun to see cracks in the peel. Kramer wonders today if Apple is beginning to lose it's special Mojo. Price is $501 after $700 last fall. Even w the country pulling back from the ledge late cant get Apple to rise. Hard to see Kramer cast aspersions Apple's way after loving it for so long.
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:06 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Apple's greatest cheerleader has begun to see cracks in the peel. Kramer wonders today if Apple is beginning to lose it's special Mojo. Price is $501 after $700 last fall. Even w the country pulling back from the ledge late cant get Apple to rise. Hard to see Kramer cast aspersions Apple's way after loving it for so long.
After today's fall, Apple is only worth $63.6 billion more than the #2 company, Exxon-Mobil, and more than double Microsft's market cap.
After today's fall, Apple is only worth $63.6 billion more than the #2 company, Exxon-Mobil, and more than double Microsft'
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:34 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Sony, HP, Nokia, Kodak, all beckon from the shadows if Apple cannot come up w a new innovation to ward off competition. Just sayin' :)
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Jim Saklad wrote:
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> > Apple's greatest cheerleader has begun to see cracks in the peel. Kramer wonders today if Apple is beginning to lose it's special Mojo. Price is $501 after $700 last fall. Even w the country pulling back from the ledge late cant get Apple to rise. Hard to see Kramer cast aspersions Apple's way after loving it for so long.
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> After today's fall, Apple is only worth $63.6 billion more than the #2 company, Exxon-Mobil, and more than double Microsft's market cap.
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> > Apple's greatest cheerleader has begun to see cracks in the peel. Kramer wonders today if Apple is beginning to lose it's special Mojo. Price is $501 after $700 last fall. Even w the country pulling back from the ledge late cant get Apple to rise. Hard to see Kramer cast aspersions Apple's way after loving it for so long.
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> After today's fall, Apple is only worth $63.6 billion more than the #2 company, Exxon-Mobil, and more than double Microsft'
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