1/16/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9332

15 New Messages

Digest #9332
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Re: Mojo by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Fwd: [macsupport] Mojo by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Apple Mojo by "Bob Cook" cookrd1
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Re: Apple Mojo by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Apple Mojo by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Apple Mojo by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: Apple Mojo by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
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Re: Apple Mojo by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
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Re: format for both PC and MSC by "T Hopkins" todhop
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Re: format for both PC and MSC by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: format for both PC and MSC by "Christopher Collins" cjc1959au
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Re: Help a friend (with Mail) by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Messages

Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:42 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

>>> Apple's greatest cheerleader has begun to see cracks in the peel. Kramer wonders today if Apple is beginning to lose it's special Mojo. Price is $501 after $700 last fall. Even w the country pulling back from the ledge late cant get Apple to rise. Hard to see Kramer cast aspersions Apple's way after loving it for so long.
>>
>> After today's fall, Apple is only worth $63.6 billion more than the #2 company, Exxon-Mobil, and more than double Microsft's market cap.
>

> Sony, HP, Nokia, Kodak, all beckon from the shadows if Apple cannot come up w a new innovation to ward off competition. Just sayin' :)

What are you expecting these companies to accomplish (Kodak!!!???) ?
When was the last time that HP, Nokia, or Kodak innovated successfully?

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:00 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

More often than it might be thought companies that start to do a
regular dividend see the stock price fall.

I think the stock market can also be described as being like a beauty
contest with most points award for buzz, excitement, and looks and few
points awarded for sales.

Denver Dan

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:06:02 -0500, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> Apple's greatest cheerleader has begun to see cracks in the peel.
>> Kramer wonders today if Apple is beginning to lose it's special
>> Mojo. Price is $501 after $700 last fall. Even w the country pulling
>> back from the ledge late cant get Apple to rise. Hard to see Kramer
>> cast aspersions Apple's way after loving it for so long.
>
>
> After today's fall, Apple is only worth $63.6 billion more than the
> #2 company, Exxon-Mobil, and more than double Microsft's market cap.

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:50 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Bob Cook" cookrd1

I think the problem stems within Apple's current products. Total lack of
innovation within iOS. Apps that only work with other iOS devices. Android
sharing between apps, iOS extremely limited. If you never used Android, you
have no idea what it can do and how iOS is utterly limited. Meanwhile,
Apple is stuck with a small wierd screen on the iPhone and no replaceable
battery or expandable memory on any iOS device. And questionable Apple
apps and a cloud service that falls short. No WiDi, no NFC. No wonder
young people are turning away from Apple. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were
revolutionary products that just didn't keep up with the times. Hopefully
Apple can find it within itself to change and get rid of their Not Invented
Here syndrome.

On Tuesday, January 15, 2013, Jim Saklad wrote:

> **
>
>
> >>> Apple's greatest cheerleader has begun to see cracks in the peel.
> Kramer wonders today if Apple is beginning to lose it's special Mojo. Price
> is $501 after $700 last fall. Even w the country pulling back from the
> ledge late cant get Apple to rise. Hard to see Kramer cast aspersions
> Apple's way after loving it for so long.
> >>
> >> After today's fall, Apple is only worth $63.6 billion more than the #2
> company, Exxon-Mobil, and more than double Microsft's market cap.
> >
>
> > Sony, HP, Nokia, Kodak, all beckon from the shadows if Apple cannot come
> up w a new innovation to ward off competition. Just sayin' :)
>
> What are you expecting these companies to accomplish (Kodak!!!???) ?
> When was the last time that HP, Nokia, or Kodak innovated successfully?
>
>

--
-Bob

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Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:21 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I think the problem stems within Apple's current products. Total lack of
> innovation within iOS.

Ah!
So entertaining.

> Apps that only work with other iOS devices.

iOS ia an operating system. Android is an operating system. Apple doesn't write Apps for Android. If 3rd-party programmers choose to, they can re-write their iOS Apps for Android, and vice versa. Apple has not part in that, except toassure that the iOS version meets their standards.

> If you never used Android, you have no idea what it can do...

Like admit malware.

> Meanwhile, Apple is stuck with a small wierd screen on the iPhone...

There you go again with your comedy routine.

> ... and no replaceable battery or expandable memory on any iOS device.

Here: iPhone since 1/2009; never felt a need for more battery or more storage.

> No WiDi...

Never heard of "WiDi".

> ... no NFC.

Not a problem. Insecure. Don't want it, don't need it.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

I think the big NASDAQ stock price drop was due to what now appears to
be a wrong and misleading article by the Wall Street Journal.

Apple saw a 4 percent plus uptick today after several news outlets
reported that the WSJ got it wrong.

Here's a Forbes article on the WSJ and Apple.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2013/01/15/did-the-wsj-get-punkd-on-apple-or-is-it-rotten-to-the-core/>

denver Dan

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:50:45 -0500, Bob Cook wrote:
> I think the problem stems within Apple's current products. Total lack of
> innovation within iOS. Apps that only work with other iOS devices. Android
> sharing between apps, iOS extremely limited. If you never used Android, you
> have no idea what it can do and how iOS is utterly limited. Meanwhile,
> Apple is stuck with a small wierd screen on the iPhone and no replaceable
> battery or expandable memory on any iOS device. And questionable Apple
> apps and a cloud service that falls short. No WiDi, no NFC. No wonder
> young people are turning away from Apple. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were
> revolutionary products that just didn't keep up with the times. Hopefully
> Apple can find it within itself to change and get rid of their Not Invented
> Here syndrome.

Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:49 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

As much as I dislike seeing comments and rumors of Apple's stock position, financial health, and business sustainability, thank you Dan for the link to this article.

I guess we have to wait until the 23rd to see how many of these oracles of doom were punk'd by a poorly researched article.

Brent

On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Denver Dan wrote:

Howdy.

I think the big NASDAQ stock price drop was due to what now appears to
be a wrong and misleading article by the Wall Street Journal.

Apple saw a 4 percent plus uptick today after several news outlets
reported that the WSJ got it wrong.

Here's a Forbes article on the WSJ and Apple.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2013/01/15/did-the-wsj-get-punkd-on-apple-or-is-it-rotten-to-the-core/>

denver Dan

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:50:45 -0500, Bob Cook wrote:
> I think the problem stems within Apple's current products. Total lack of
> innovation within iOS. Apps that only work with other iOS devices. Android
> sharing between apps, iOS extremely limited. If you never used Android, you
> have no idea what it can do and how iOS is utterly limited. Meanwhile,
> Apple is stuck with a small wierd screen on the iPhone and no replaceable
> battery or expandable memory on any iOS device. And questionable Apple
> apps and a cloud service that falls short. No WiDi, no NFC. No wonder
> young people are turning away from Apple. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were
> revolutionary products that just didn't keep up with the times. Hopefully
> Apple can find it within itself to change and get rid of their Not Invented
> Here syndrome.

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Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:57 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11812274/1/cramer-quick-take-waiting-for-apples-omg-product.html

Kramer will not add positions in Apple until he hears of a new OMG announcement. He doesn't care about a cheaper iPhone, growth-wise. He is concerned about Apple flubs w the new iTunes11 which many, including myself, hate, plus the Maps fiasco, and the new plug for the iPhone 5 for a premium priced product. His daughter's frustrated attitude w Apple gave him pause.

Yeah, I know, start the pile on. Just saying, as I have always said, Apple only has innovation as a product, like all techs. When that stops (the author of Jobs' bio says it has stopped at Apple) it gives pause to think. I hope there will be an OMG we don't know about, of course.

But I've been a Mac user for 20+ years and will continue to be as long as the quality is there as it has been and my iPhone4 continues to please.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> I think the big NASDAQ stock price drop was due to what now appears to
> be a wrong and misleading article by the Wall Street Journal.
>
> Apple saw a 4 percent plus uptick today after several news outlets
> reported that the WSJ got it wrong.
>
> Here's a Forbes article on the WSJ and Apple.
>
>
>
> denver Dan
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:50:45 -0500, Bob Cook wrote:
> > I think the problem stems within Apple's current products. Total lack of
> > innovation within iOS. Apps that only work with other iOS devices. Android
> > sharing between apps, iOS extremely limited. If you never used Android, you
> > have no idea what it can do and how iOS is utterly limited. Meanwhile,
> > Apple is stuck with a small wierd screen on the iPhone and no replaceable
> > battery or expandable memory on any iOS device. And questionable Apple
> > apps and a cloud service that falls short. No WiDi, no NFC. No wonder
> > young people are turning away from Apple. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were
> > revolutionary products that just didn't keep up with the times. Hopefully
> > Apple can find it within itself to change and get rid of their Not Invented
> > Here syndrome.
>

Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:21 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11812274/1/cramer-quick-take-waiting-for-apples-omg-product.html

Kramer will not add positions in Apple until he hears of a new OMG announcement. He doesn't care about a cheaper iPhone, growth-wise. He is concerned about Apple flubs w the new iTunes11 which many, including myself, hate, plus the Maps fiasco, and the new plug for the iPhone 5 for a premium priced product. His daughter's frustrated attitude w Apple gave him pause.

Yeah, I know, start the pile on. Just saying, as I have always said, Apple only has innovation as a product, like all techs. When that stops (the author of Jobs' bio says it has stopped at Apple) it gives pause to think. I hope there will be an OMG we don't know about, of course.

But I've been a Mac user for 20+ years and will continue to be as long as the quality is there as it has been. And my iPhone4 continues to please.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> I think the big NASDAQ stock price drop was due to what now appears to
> be a wrong and misleading article by the Wall Street Journal.
>
> Apple saw a 4 percent plus uptick today after several news outlets
> reported that the WSJ got it wrong.
>
> Here's a Forbes article on the WSJ and Apple.
>
>
>
> denver Dan
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:50:45 -0500, Bob Cook wrote:
> > I think the problem stems within Apple's current products. Total lack of
> > innovation within iOS. Apps that only work with other iOS devices. Android
> > sharing between apps, iOS extremely limited. If you never used Android, you
> > have no idea what it can do and how iOS is utterly limited. Meanwhile,
> > Apple is stuck with a small wierd screen on the iPhone and no replaceable
> > battery or expandable memory on any iOS device. And questionable Apple
> > apps and a cloud service that falls short. No WiDi, no NFC. No wonder
> > young people are turning away from Apple. The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were
> > revolutionary products that just didn't keep up with the times. Hopefully
> > Apple can find it within itself to change and get rid of their Not Invented
> > Here syndrome.
>

Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:57 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

I've been having a problem with QuickLook. Audio files will not play. When an audio file is selected in Finder and the Space bar is pressed, the file looks like everything is fine (icon opens large and the progress bar begins moving), but no sound is heard. If these same files are played in iTunes, all is as expected.

If I boot using a different user, QL behaves normally: these same files play.

In my (normal) user I've eliminated all Log-In items (System Preferences > Users > Log-In Items) and rebooted. No joy.

I've reinstalled the OS several times, including the combo updater (10.6.8) (downloaded from Apple) also several times.

But since all is well under a different user I needn't have re-installed the OS. That was a "end of the rope" decision.

Obviously the cause must be something that is loading for this user that is not loading for the other users. How can I determine what else is loading at boot time so as to eliminate these?

I can't boot in "Safe Mode" because this disallows Quick Look to load.

Thanks,
Dave

2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard

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Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:35 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

I assume you are asking for help, but I don't see a question. If you are indeed asking for help, then go back to basics.

1- Remove half of your log-in items. Restart & test.

2- IF: QL works, THEN: remove these items and add in the other half of the log-in items. Restart & test.

3- Continue until you find the one log-in items that is causing the problem. Otherwise, return to step 1.

You will probably figure it out in 6 cycles or less. Without a ton more info about your system, there is no way for us to figure it out.

Brent

On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Dave C wrote:

I've been having a problem with QuickLook. Audio files will not play. When an audio file is selected in Finder and the Space bar is pressed, the file looks like everything is fine (icon opens large and the progress bar begins moving), but no sound is heard. If these same files are played in iTunes, all is as expected.

If I boot using a different user, QL behaves normally: these same files play.

In my (normal) user I've eliminated all Log-In items (System Preferences > Users > Log-In Items) and rebooted. No joy.

I've reinstalled the OS several times, including the combo updater (10.6.8) (downloaded from Apple) also several times.

But since all is well under a different user I needn't have re-installed the OS. That was a "end of the rope" decision.

Obviously the cause must be something that is loading for this user that is not loading for the other users. How can I determine what else is loading at boot time so as to eliminate these?

I can't boot in "Safe Mode" because this disallows Quick Look to load.

Thanks,
Dave

2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard

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Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:30 am (PST) . Posted by:

"T Hopkins" todhop

Yes, but it's a tiny bit tricky to get CD burn format as compatible as possible just because many apps have too many options and are not clear about which you should use. Toast on Mac is the simplest. Select "Data" disc and then "Mac and PC" and the resulting disc will be compatible across platforms. This is a very old setting with exceptional compatibility not only between platforms but also on older systems. You can use this for any size optical disc from CD to Blu-ray.

With most other software, you're forced to select specific formatting parameters which most people don't understand. In theory "UDF" is the modern, cross-platform format for optical discs (it's what DVD video uses) but it has issues with versioning, CDs, and older systems.

Truth is that most defaults settings in third party software will simply work for both CDs and DVDs, but you should test. The proper "standard"; formats for optical discs are cross platform.

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com

On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:52 PM, bj wrote:

> Would a CD/DVD work, or are there differences in how they're formatted (or
> whatever) between PC & Mac?
> bj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bobbystar
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:30 PM
> To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [macsupport] Re: format for both PC and MSC
>
> Consider using Google Docs or something similar that is web based. Then
> almost anyone can use the files that you share or email.
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "nhoward5040" wrote:
> >
> > I am the leader of a golf group, where I have several excel files for the
> > finances, and many word documents for instructions for weekly games,
> > various payout schedules, etc. I need to pass this on to the next year's
> > person. I am going to buy a flash drive to put all of the files on. (I
> > have a Macbook Pro running 10.6.8, with Microsoft Office 2011 (the latest
> > version)).
> >
> > I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash
> > drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the
> > Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either
> > platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I
> > always reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not
> > as good an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac
> > format, will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able
> > to be read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has?
> > Or should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash
> > drives come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a
> > FAT format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
> >
> > Any ideas? THanks for your advice
> > Nancy
> >
>
>

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Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:56 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

For CDs, use ISO 9660; for DVDs, use UDF. IIRC those are the defaults in
Finder.

Otto

On 16 January 2013 13:38, T Hopkins hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:

> Yes, but it's a tiny bit tricky to get CD burn format as compatible as
> possible just because many apps have too many options and are not clear
> about which you should use. Toast on Mac is the simplest. Select "Data"
> disc and then "Mac and PC" and the resulting disc will be compatible across
> platforms. This is a very old setting with exceptional compatibility not
> only between platforms but also on older systems. You can use this for any
> size optical disc from CD to Blu-ray.
>
> With most other software, you're forced to select specific formatting
> parameters which most people don't understand. In theory "UDF" is the
> modern, cross-platform format for optical discs (it's what DVD video uses)
> but it has issues with versioning, CDs, and older systems.
>
> Truth is that most defaults settings in third party software will simply
> work for both CDs and DVDs, but you should test. The proper "standard";
> formats for optical discs are cross platform.
>

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Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:22 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Christopher Collins" cjc1959au

Seems like no-one actually wanted to answer the question posed, so:

USB: FAT32 (MS-DOS on Mac)
CD: ISO-9660

Both of the above formats are readable by both systems without any problems.

Just be aware of long file names on ISO-9660.

cjc

On 17/01/2013, at 12:38 AM, T Hopkins hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>>
>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "nhoward5040" wrote:
>>>
>>> I am the leader of a golf group, where I have several excel files for the
>>> finances, and many word documents for instructions for weekly games,
>>> various payout schedules, etc. I need to pass this on to the next year's
>>> person. I am going to buy a flash drive to put all of the files on. (I
>>> have a Macbook Pro running 10.6.8, with Microsoft Office 2011 (the latest
>>> version)).
>>>
>>> I would like your advice on how best to store the documents on the flash
>>> drive, so they could be read by either a PC- or a Mac-user. Of course the
>>> Word and Excel files should be able to be opened by MS Office on either
>>> platform, but I am wondering about the format on the flash drive. I
>>> always reformat my flash drives to a Mac format, but wonder if this is not
>>> as good an idea for this purpose. If I reformat the flash drive to a Mac
>>> format, will the files, even though they are Word and EXcel files, be able
>>> to be read and downloaded onto a PC, if that is what the next person has?
>>> Or should I just leave the formatting alone, assuming that most flash
>>> drives come formatted in a PC format? Or should I format the drive in a
>>> FAT format, which I think can be done by Disk Utility.
>>>
>>> Any ideas? THanks for your advice
>>> Nancy
>>>
>>

Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:55 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Dane Robison" macdane1

Hi folks,

I was just asked by a good friend to help him jump into hi-res computer audio. The problem is, I know enough about both the Mac and hifi to be dangerous, but have never mixed the two.

Here's the scenario. His computer is in one room and his hifi in another. For various reasons, he'd prefer to link the two wirelessly. His audio files are a mix of 24/96 and 24/192. In the computer room he has a Mac Mini, and in the hifi room he has a Marantz SACD player with both optical and s/pdif inputs to access the D/A converter.

Since this isn't a world I'm familiar with, I'm wondering if it's possible to get a 24/192 signal out of a Mac Mini. If it is, what's the best method to wirelessly send that signal to the hifi room with either an optical or s/pdif connection to his DAC?

Thoughts? Or does he get out the drill and start running wires?

Thanks!
Dane

Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:59 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Try this.

When a Mac is unpacked and set up and booted for the first time there
is a place where you can take a picture of yourself and this picture
will be added to the User's Account that is then created.

Go to System Preferences > Accounts.

Note the square box with a picture next to Change Password… button

You can drag a new image to this picture box. The box will offer some
basic editing abilities such as resizing the image if desired.

Alternatively, if you click the image box then pic Edit you can take a
picture of yourself or of something you put in front of the camera like
your granny and then use that picture.

The picture should immediately appear with your own address in Address
Book (Contacts).

Denver dan

On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 00:02:31 -0800, Dave C wrote:
> The problem persists...
>
> Friend replaced image in his Contacts entry (the entry for himself)
> with a different image. Then he sends himself an email. In the Inbox
> the email has the old image associated with it.
>
> We've re-edited his entry in Contacts, replacing the image with newer
> and different(er?) images but only the original is shown in Inbox
> when the message arrives.
>
> How can I un-curse this Inbox?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> working

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