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Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:15 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
You could try repartitioning the external TM drives, not simply erasing, then back up to them again. But I have never used multiple alternating backup drives. That's new to me.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , John Engberg wrote:
>
>
>
> I have a 27 in 2.7 GHz i5 iMac with 32GB of RAM running 10.8.2.
>
> I have a really strange situation with Time Machine (TM). I had been backing up with TM on a 1TB external drive, and I bought a 3TB drive, to replace it. When I opened TM to select the drive, I was asked if I would like to use both drives for an alternating back up. I thought about that and decided to do it.
>
> Subsequently, I looked at the TM drives to see how this alternation was working out. I looked first at the 1TB drive and saw that it was backing up every other hour. When I tried to look at the 3TB drive it was grayed out and the Backups.backupdb folder could not be opened. Checking the size I noted that some of the space had been used.
>
> I tried booting from an another external drive to see if I could open the backup folder on the 3TB drive, but it was still grayed out. I checked the info on the 3TB drive and found in the Info window that the name column in the Sharing and Preferences showed "Custom" with read/write privilege. Also in the name column, there was a "Wheel" with read/write privilege. I was listed as read only, as was "staff" and everyone. I changed my privilege to read/write, but it didn't make any difference.
>
> When I enter TM, I do not see an hourly backup - I only see a backup every two hours (E.G. 1,3,5), and the time does not correspond with the time listed for the backups on the 1TB drive(E.G. 2,4,6). It would appear that what is showing up, are the backups from the 3TB drive. I am able to restore with out a problem.
>
> Does anyone have any idea about what's happening here, or any suggestions as to how to be able to see the 3TB backups and how to get TM to display all the backups when I enter TM? I'm baffled.
>
> John Engberg
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
>
>
> I have a 27 in 2.7 GHz i5 iMac with 32GB of RAM running 10.8.2.
>
> I have a really strange situation with Time Machine (TM). I had been backing up with TM on a 1TB external drive, and I bought a 3TB drive, to replace it. When I opened TM to select the drive, I was asked if I would like to use both drives for an alternating back up. I thought about that and decided to do it.
>
> Subsequently, I looked at the TM drives to see how this alternation was working out. I looked first at the 1TB drive and saw that it was backing up every other hour. When I tried to look at the 3TB drive it was grayed out and the Backups.backupdb folder could not be opened. Checking the size I noted that some of the space had been used.
>
> I tried booting from an another external drive to see if I could open the backup folder on the 3TB drive, but it was still grayed out. I checked the info on the 3TB drive and found in the Info window that the name column in the Sharing and Preferences showed "Custom" with read/write privilege. Also in the name column, there was a "Wheel" with read/write privilege. I was listed as read only, as was "staff" and everyone. I changed my privilege to read/write, but it didn't make any difference.
>
> When I enter TM, I do not see an hourly backup - I only see a backup every two hours (E.G. 1,3,5), and the time does not correspond with the time listed for the backups on the 1TB drive(E.G. 2,4,6). It would appear that what is showing up, are the backups from the 3TB drive. I am able to restore with out a problem.
>
> Does anyone have any idea about what's happening here, or any suggestions as to how to be able to see the 3TB backups and how to get TM to display all the backups when I enter TM? I'm baffled.
>
> John Engberg
>
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:23 am (PST) . Posted by:
"John Engberg" mrbyte
I might try that on the 3TB drive, since I can't open the backup folder from the finder anyway, even though the backups I see when I enter TM would appear to be on that drive.
On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:15 PM, "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
> You could try repartitioning the external TM drives, not simply erasing, then back up to them again. But I have never used multiple alternating backup drives. That's new to me.
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , John Engberg wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a 27 in 2.7 GHz i5 iMac with 32GB of RAM running 10.8.2.
>>
>> I have a really strange situation with Time Machine (TM). I had been backing up with TM on a 1TB external drive, and I bought a 3TB drive, to replace it. When I opened TM to select the drive, I was asked if I would like to use both drives for an alternating back up. I thought about that and decided to do it.
>>
>> Subsequently, I looked at the TM drives to see how this alternation was working out. I looked first at the 1TB drive and saw that it was backing up every other hour. When I tried to look at the 3TB drive it was grayed out and the Backups.backupdb folder could not be opened. Checking the size I noted that some of the space had been used.
>>
>> I tried booting from an another external drive to see if I could open the backup folder on the 3TB drive, but it was still grayed out. I checked the info on the 3TB drive and found in the Info window that the name column in the Sharing and Preferences showed "Custom" with read/write privilege. Also in the name column, there was a "Wheel" with read/write privilege. I was listed as read only, as was "staff" and everyone. I changed my privilege to read/write, but it didn't make any difference.
>>
>> When I enter TM, I do not see an hourly backup - I only see a backup every two hours (E.G. 1,3,5), and the time does not correspond with the time listed for the backups on the 1TB drive(E.G. 2,4,6). It would appear that what is showing up, are the backups from the 3TB drive. I am able to restore with out a problem.
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea about what's happening here, or any suggestions as to how to be able to see the 3TB backups and how to get TM to display all the backups when I enter TM? I'm baffled.
>>
>> John Engberg
>>
On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:15 PM, "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.
> You could try repartitioning the external TM drives, not simply erasing, then back up to them again. But I have never used multiple alternating backup drives. That's new to me.
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a 27 in 2.7 GHz i5 iMac with 32GB of RAM running 10.8.2.
>>
>> I have a really strange situation with Time Machine (TM). I had been backing up with TM on a 1TB external drive, and I bought a 3TB drive, to replace it. When I opened TM to select the drive, I was asked if I would like to use both drives for an alternating back up. I thought about that and decided to do it.
>>
>> Subsequently, I looked at the TM drives to see how this alternation was working out. I looked first at the 1TB drive and saw that it was backing up every other hour. When I tried to look at the 3TB drive it was grayed out and the Backups.backupdb folder could not be opened. Checking the size I noted that some of the space had been used.
>>
>> I tried booting from an another external drive to see if I could open the backup folder on the 3TB drive, but it was still grayed out. I checked the info on the 3TB drive and found in the Info window that the name column in the Sharing and Preferences showed "Custom" with read/write privilege. Also in the name column, there was a "Wheel" with read/write privilege. I was listed as read only, as was "staff" and everyone. I changed my privilege to read/write, but it didn't make any difference.
>>
>> When I enter TM, I do not see an hourly backup - I only see a backup every two hours (E.G. 1,3,5), and the time does not correspond with the time listed for the backups on the 1TB drive(E.G. 2,4,6). It would appear that what is showing up, are the backups from the 3TB drive. I am able to restore with out a problem.
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea about what's happening here, or any suggestions as to how to be able to see the 3TB backups and how to get TM to display all the backups when I enter TM? I'm baffled.
>>
>> John Engberg
>>
Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:18 am (PST) . Posted by:
"John Engberg" mrbyte
I was getting ready to repartition the 3TB drive, but I thought I try some experimentation first.
I unmounted the 3TB drive and entered TM. The backups were even hours (e.g., 2,4,6 ) and corresponded with the backups on the 1TB drive. This is exactly the opposite of what I observed with both drives mounted. I then remounted the 3TB drive and reentered TM and noted no change, still showing even hours.
I removed the 3TB drive from the TM backup drives in the TM System Preference Pane and reselected it. Nothing changed.
However, talk about WEIRD - this is truly weird. When I check the size of the 3TB drive in Disk Utility, is shows 3TB with 985.11GB used. When I check the size of the Backups.backupdb file on that disk in the Finder, it shows the size to be 7.27 TB - yes you read that correctly, it's 7.27 TB. What on earth is going on here?
Later...
I repartitioned the 3TB disk (GUID partition map, HFS Journaled) and selected it as a backup disk in TM. According to the info in the TM Preference Pane window, TM would backup alternately to each drive.
I now can open the Backups.backupsdb folder on each drive, and the sharing and permissions are identical to those on my other drives - no Custom or Wheel, just me-read & write, staff - read & write, and everyone - read only.
I'm wondering if I forgot to repartition the drive when I got it. It's an OWC Mercury Elite Pro drive. I know I deleted all the files on the drive when I got it.
One other bit of real strangeness: When I selected "backup now" in TM, and looking at the sidebar in a Finder window, I see that the icon for My Time Machine drive (the 1TB drive) is indicating activity (the little circle is churning) and my Time Machine 2 (the 3TB drive) is indicating no activity; however, when I open the drives and look at the backup folders on both drives, I find that the backup is actually occurring on the 3TB drive! A check of the TM System Preference Pane also shows the backup being accomplished on the 3TB drive. Will these wonders ever cease.
My never ending thanks to "HAL9000" for his invaluable suggestion!
John Engberg
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On Jan 21, 2013, at 4:23 AM, John Engberg mrbyte@earthlink.net > wrote:
> I might try that on the 3TB drive, since I can't open the backup folder from the finder anyway, even though the backups I see when I enter TM would appear to be on that drive.
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:15 PM, "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>> You could try repartitioning the external TM drives, not simply erasing, then back up to them again. But I have never used multiple alternating backup drives. That's new to me.
>>
>>
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>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , John Engberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a 27 in 2.7 GHz i5 iMac with 32GB of RAM running 10.8.2.
>>>
>>> I have a really strange situation with Time Machine (TM). I had been backing up with TM on a 1TB external drive, and I bought a 3TB drive, to replace it. When I opened TM to select the drive, I was asked if I would like to use both drives for an alternating back up. I thought about that and decided to do it.
>>>
>>> Subsequently, I looked at the TM drives to see how this alternation was working out. I looked first at the 1TB drive and saw that it was backing up every other hour. When I tried to look at the 3TB drive it was grayed out and the Backups.backupdb folder could not be opened. Checking the size I noted that some of the space had been used.
>>>
>>> I tried booting from an another external drive to see if I could open the backup folder on the 3TB drive, but it was still grayed out. I checked the info on the 3TB drive and found in the Info window that the name column in the Sharing and Preferences showed "Custom" with read/write privilege. Also in the name column, there was a "Wheel" with read/write privilege. I was listed as read only, as was "staff" and everyone. I changed my privilege to read/write, but it didn't make any difference.
>>>
>>> When I enter TM, I do not see an hourly backup - I only see a backup every two hours (E.G. 1,3,5), and the time does not correspond with the time listed for the backups on the 1TB drive(E.G. 2,4,6). It would appear that what is showing up, are the backups from the 3TB drive. I am able to restore with out a problem.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any idea about what's happening here, or any suggestions as to how to be able to see the 3TB backups and how to get TM to display all the backups when I enter TM? I'm baffled.
>>>
>>> John Engberg
>>>
>
I unmounted the 3TB drive and entered TM. The backups were even hours (e.g., 2,4,6 ) and corresponded with the backups on the 1TB drive. This is exactly the opposite of what I observed with both drives mounted. I then remounted the 3TB drive and reentered TM and noted no change, still showing even hours.
I removed the 3TB drive from the TM backup drives in the TM System Preference Pane and reselected it. Nothing changed.
However, talk about WEIRD - this is truly weird. When I check the size of the 3TB drive in Disk Utility, is shows 3TB with 985.11GB used. When I check the size of the Backups.backupdb file on that disk in the Finder, it shows the size to be 7.27 TB - yes you read that correctly, it's 7.27 TB. What on earth is going on here?
Later...
I repartitioned the 3TB disk (GUID partition map, HFS Journaled) and selected it as a backup disk in TM. According to the info in the TM Preference Pane window, TM would backup alternately to each drive.
I now can open the Backups.backupsdb folder on each drive, and the sharing and permissions are identical to those on my other drives - no Custom or Wheel, just me-read & write, staff - read & write, and everyone - read only.
I'm wondering if I forgot to repartition the drive when I got it. It's an OWC Mercury Elite Pro drive. I know I deleted all the files on the drive when I got it.
One other bit of real strangeness: When I selected "backup now" in TM, and looking at the sidebar in a Finder window, I see that the icon for My Time Machine drive (the 1TB drive) is indicating activity (the little circle is churning) and my Time Machine 2 (the 3TB drive) is indicating no activity; however, when I open the drives and look at the backup folders on both drives, I find that the backup is actually occurring on the 3TB drive! A check of the TM System Preference Pane also shows the backup being accomplished on the 3TB drive. Will these wonders ever cease.
My never ending thanks to "HAL9000" for his invaluable suggestion!
John Engberg
-
On Jan 21, 2013, at 4:23 AM, John Engberg mrbyte@earthlink.
> I might try that on the 3TB drive, since I can't open the backup folder from the finder anyway, even though the backups I see when I enter TM would appear to be on that drive.
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:15 PM, "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.
>
>> You could try repartitioning the external TM drives, not simply erasing, then back up to them again. But I have never used multiple alternating backup drives. That's new to me.
>>
>>
-
>> --- In macsupportcentral@
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a 27 in 2.7 GHz i5 iMac with 32GB of RAM running 10.8.2.
>>>
>>> I have a really strange situation with Time Machine (TM). I had been backing up with TM on a 1TB external drive, and I bought a 3TB drive, to replace it. When I opened TM to select the drive, I was asked if I would like to use both drives for an alternating back up. I thought about that and decided to do it.
>>>
>>> Subsequently, I looked at the TM drives to see how this alternation was working out. I looked first at the 1TB drive and saw that it was backing up every other hour. When I tried to look at the 3TB drive it was grayed out and the Backups.backupdb folder could not be opened. Checking the size I noted that some of the space had been used.
>>>
>>> I tried booting from an another external drive to see if I could open the backup folder on the 3TB drive, but it was still grayed out. I checked the info on the 3TB drive and found in the Info window that the name column in the Sharing and Preferences showed "Custom" with read/write privilege. Also in the name column, there was a "Wheel" with read/write privilege. I was listed as read only, as was "staff" and everyone. I changed my privilege to read/write, but it didn't make any difference.
>>>
>>> When I enter TM, I do not see an hourly backup - I only see a backup every two hours (E.G. 1,3,5), and the time does not correspond with the time listed for the backups on the 1TB drive(E.G. 2,4,6). It would appear that what is showing up, are the backups from the 3TB drive. I am able to restore with out a problem.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any idea about what's happening here, or any suggestions as to how to be able to see the 3TB backups and how to get TM to display all the backups when I enter TM? I'm baffled.
>>>
>>> John Engberg
>>>
>
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:01 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
You're welcome.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , John Engberg wrote:
>
> I was getting ready to repartition the 3TB drive, but I thought I try some experimentation first.
>
> I unmounted the 3TB drive and entered TM. The backups were even hours (e.g., 2,4,6 ) and corresponded with the backups on the 1TB drive. This is exactly the opposite of what I observed with both drives mounted. I then remounted the 3TB drive and reentered TM and noted no change, still showing even hours.
>
> I removed the 3TB drive from the TM backup drives in the TM System Preference Pane and reselected it. Nothing changed.
>
> However, talk about WEIRD - this is truly weird. When I check the size of the 3TB drive in Disk Utility, is shows 3TB with 985.11GB used. When I check the size of the Backups.backupdb file on that disk in the Finder, it shows the size to be 7.27 TB - yes you read that correctly, it's 7.27 TB. What on earth is going on here?
>
> Later...
>
> I repartitioned the 3TB disk (GUID partition map, HFS Journaled) and selected it as a backup disk in TM. According to the info in the TM Preference Pane window, TM would backup alternately to each drive.
>
> I now can open the Backups.backupsdb folder on each drive, and the sharing and permissions are identical to those on my other drives - no Custom or Wheel, just me-read & write, staff - read & write, and everyone - read only.
>
> I'm wondering if I forgot to repartition the drive when I got it. It's an OWC Mercury Elite Pro drive. I know I deleted all the files on the drive when I got it.
>
> One other bit of real strangeness: When I selected "backup now" in TM, and looking at the sidebar in a Finder window, I see that the icon for My Time Machine drive (the 1TB drive) is indicating activity (the little circle is churning) and my Time Machine 2 (the 3TB drive) is indicating no activity; however, when I open the drives and look at the backup folders on both drives, I find that the backup is actually occurring on the 3TB drive! A check of the TM System Preference Pane also shows the backup being accomplished on the 3TB drive. Will these wonders ever cease.
>
> My never ending thanks to "HAL9000" for his invaluable suggestion!
>
> John Engberg
> -
> On Jan 21, 2013, at 4:23 AM, John Engberg wrote:
>
> > I might try that on the 3TB drive, since I can't open the backup folder from the finder anyway, even though the backups I see when I enter TM would appear to be on that drive.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:15 PM, "HAL9000" wrote:
> >
> >> You could try repartitioning the external TM drives, not simply erasing, then back up to them again. But I have never used multiple alternating backup drives. That's new to me.
> >>
> >>
> -
> >> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , John Engberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have a 27 in 2.7 GHz i5 iMac with 32GB of RAM running 10.8.2.
> >>>
> >>> I have a really strange situation with Time Machine (TM). I had been backing up with TM on a 1TB external drive, and I bought a 3TB drive, to replace it. When I opened TM to select the drive, I was asked if I would like to use both drives for an alternating back up. I thought about that and decided to do it.
> >>>
> >>> Subsequently, I looked at the TM drives to see how this alternation was working out. I looked first at the 1TB drive and saw that it was backing up every other hour. When I tried to look at the 3TB drive it was grayed out and the Backups.backupdb folder could not be opened. Checking the size I noted that some of the space had been used.
> >>>
> >>> I tried booting from an another external drive to see if I could open the backup folder on the 3TB drive, but it was still grayed out. I checked the info on the 3TB drive and found in the Info window that the name column in the Sharing and Preferences showed "Custom" with read/write privilege. Also in the name column, there was a "Wheel" with read/write privilege. I was listed as read only, as was "staff" and everyone. I changed my privilege to read/write, but it didn't make any difference.
> >>>
> >>> When I enter TM, I do not see an hourly backup - I only see a backup every two hours (E.G. 1,3,5), and the time does not correspond with the time listed for the backups on the 1TB drive(E.G. 2,4,6). It would appear that what is showing up, are the backups from the 3TB drive. I am able to restore with out a problem.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have any idea about what's happening here, or any suggestions as to how to be able to see the 3TB backups and how to get TM to display all the backups when I enter TM? I'm baffled.
> >>>
> >>> John Engberg
> >>>
> >
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I was getting ready to repartition the 3TB drive, but I thought I try some experimentation first.
>
> I unmounted the 3TB drive and entered TM. The backups were even hours (e.g., 2,4,6 ) and corresponded with the backups on the 1TB drive. This is exactly the opposite of what I observed with both drives mounted. I then remounted the 3TB drive and reentered TM and noted no change, still showing even hours.
>
> I removed the 3TB drive from the TM backup drives in the TM System Preference Pane and reselected it. Nothing changed.
>
> However, talk about WEIRD - this is truly weird. When I check the size of the 3TB drive in Disk Utility, is shows 3TB with 985.11GB used. When I check the size of the Backups.backupdb file on that disk in the Finder, it shows the size to be 7.27 TB - yes you read that correctly, it's 7.27 TB. What on earth is going on here?
>
> Later...
>
> I repartitioned the 3TB disk (GUID partition map, HFS Journaled) and selected it as a backup disk in TM. According to the info in the TM Preference Pane window, TM would backup alternately to each drive.
>
> I now can open the Backups.backupsdb folder on each drive, and the sharing and permissions are identical to those on my other drives - no Custom or Wheel, just me-read & write, staff - read & write, and everyone - read only.
>
> I'm wondering if I forgot to repartition the drive when I got it. It's an OWC Mercury Elite Pro drive. I know I deleted all the files on the drive when I got it.
>
> One other bit of real strangeness: When I selected "backup now" in TM, and looking at the sidebar in a Finder window, I see that the icon for My Time Machine drive (the 1TB drive) is indicating activity (the little circle is churning) and my Time Machine 2 (the 3TB drive) is indicating no activity; however, when I open the drives and look at the backup folders on both drives, I find that the backup is actually occurring on the 3TB drive! A check of the TM System Preference Pane also shows the backup being accomplished on the 3TB drive. Will these wonders ever cease.
>
> My never ending thanks to "HAL9000" for his invaluable suggestion!
>
> John Engberg
> -
> On Jan 21, 2013, at 4:23 AM, John Engberg wrote:
>
> > I might try that on the 3TB drive, since I can't open the backup folder from the finder anyway, even though the backups I see when I enter TM would appear to be on that drive.
> >
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:15 PM, "HAL9000" wrote:
> >
> >> You could try repartitioning the external TM drives, not simply erasing, then back up to them again. But I have never used multiple alternating backup drives. That's new to me.
> >>
> >>
> -
> >> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have a 27 in 2.7 GHz i5 iMac with 32GB of RAM running 10.8.2.
> >>>
> >>> I have a really strange situation with Time Machine (TM). I had been backing up with TM on a 1TB external drive, and I bought a 3TB drive, to replace it. When I opened TM to select the drive, I was asked if I would like to use both drives for an alternating back up. I thought about that and decided to do it.
> >>>
> >>> Subsequently, I looked at the TM drives to see how this alternation was working out. I looked first at the 1TB drive and saw that it was backing up every other hour. When I tried to look at the 3TB drive it was grayed out and the Backups.backupdb folder could not be opened. Checking the size I noted that some of the space had been used.
> >>>
> >>> I tried booting from an another external drive to see if I could open the backup folder on the 3TB drive, but it was still grayed out. I checked the info on the 3TB drive and found in the Info window that the name column in the Sharing and Preferences showed "Custom" with read/write privilege. Also in the name column, there was a "Wheel" with read/write privilege. I was listed as read only, as was "staff" and everyone. I changed my privilege to read/write, but it didn't make any difference.
> >>>
> >>> When I enter TM, I do not see an hourly backup - I only see a backup every two hours (E.G. 1,3,5), and the time does not correspond with the time listed for the backups on the 1TB drive(E.G. 2,4,6). It would appear that what is showing up, are the backups from the 3TB drive. I am able to restore with out a problem.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have any idea about what's happening here, or any suggestions as to how to be able to see the 3TB backups and how to get TM to display all the backups when I enter TM? I'm baffled.
> >>>
> >>> John Engberg
> >>>
> >
>
Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:23 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Barry had some good info.
You might also access Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Account
Information tab
Check the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) section and check on the Use only
this server check box.
You may need to do this for each account you have set up.
Denver Dan
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:07:24 -0800, Dave C wrote:
> I subscribe to many mail lists, some with Hades.Listmoms.net and many
> with Yahoo.groups.
>
> I have several email addresses, personal with gmail, and the yahoo
> address is used for list mail.
>
> Every once in a while (a couple of times a week, recently), I'll
> address a new message or reply to one posted to one of the list
> groups. When I send it I use (as always) the smtp server for yahoo.
>
> I will get an immediate reply from the Yahoo groups server saying
> that the message can't be delivered because the address from which
> the message was sent (gmail!) is not subscribed.
>
> I can't figure out how this is happening. I send the message several
> times again, making sure that I use the Yahoo smtp server, and again
> it is rejected because it's coming from the gmail server. (The reply
> rejection notice is addressed to my gmail address.)
>
> Finally, for some unknown reason, it is accepted and shows up in the
> list distribution.
>
> My broadband service is with ATT (which uses Yahoo servers for mail,
> apparently), not gmail.
>
> I open Mail Preferences and check the smtp server settings for the
> Yahoo mail account: it is indeed Yahoo's server.
>
> I quit Mail and restart. No joy.
>
> Why is this happening? Anyone else experience this? How to fix it?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> Mail 4.6
> 2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
>
>
Barry had some good info.
You might also access Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Account
Information tab
Check the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) section and check on the Use only
this server check box.
You may need to do this for each account you have set up.
Denver Dan
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:07:24 -0800, Dave C wrote:
> I subscribe to many mail lists, some with Hades.Listmoms.
> with Yahoo.groups.
>
> I have several email addresses, personal with gmail, and the yahoo
> address is used for list mail.
>
> Every once in a while (a couple of times a week, recently), I'll
> address a new message or reply to one posted to one of the list
> groups. When I send it I use (as always) the smtp server for yahoo.
>
> I will get an immediate reply from the Yahoo groups server saying
> that the message can't be delivered because the address from which
> the message was sent (gmail!) is not subscribed.
>
> I can't figure out how this is happening. I send the message several
> times again, making sure that I use the Yahoo smtp server, and again
> it is rejected because it's coming from the gmail server. (The reply
> rejection notice is addressed to my gmail address.)
>
> Finally, for some unknown reason, it is accepted and shows up in the
> list distribution.
>
> My broadband service is with ATT (which uses Yahoo servers for mail,
> apparently), not gmail.
>
> I open Mail Preferences and check the smtp server settings for the
> Yahoo mail account: it is indeed Yahoo's server.
>
> I quit Mail and restart. No joy.
>
> Why is this happening? Anyone else experience this? How to fix it?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> Mail 4.6
> 2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
> OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
>
>
Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:50 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Sam Goodman" alaskannemesis
Besides the wonderfull handbreak at *Http://handbrake*.fr/ try out
ffmpegx at http://www.ffmpegx.com/ check out the FAQ and help files they
are fantastic!
EVOM at http://thelittleappfactory.com/evom/ this app will copy any
movie or flash movie regardless of its protected status or anticopy
technology used.
--
sam goodman nemesis@tranquility.net Never wrestle with a pig.
You'll both get dirty and the pig is the only one that will enjoy it
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ffmpegx at http://www.ffmpegx.
are fantastic!
EVOM at http://thelittleapp
movie or flash movie regardless of its protected status or anticopy
technology used.
--
sam goodman nemesis@tranquility
You'll both get dirty and the pig is the only one that will enjoy it
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Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:03 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Jeannie" chloe898
I am having a strange problem and don't know if it is something I did, or
if the latest upgrade to Mountain Lion did it.
I put my photos into folders. Previously, I could click on them and they
would open. I could even open as many as I wanted and they would appear on
a column on the left hand side.
Now when I click on them , they kinda flash as though they were going to
open..but nothing happens. However, If I right click and chose open, they
open on a beautiful black background, and on the left hand side column
not only is the picture or pictures that I have chosen, but also some that
were recently opned, even though they may no longer be in their folder.
In order to close out, I have to do a command q, or else I can not get back
to desktop.
I am running a 6 core Mac pro, 16 gig of ram, and Mountain lion(up to date)
thanks,
Jeannie
--
Jeannie
View my images :
http://www.pbase.com/nikonjeannie
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if the latest upgrade to Mountain Lion did it.
I put my photos into folders. Previously, I could click on them and they
would open. I could even open as many as I wanted and they would appear on
a column on the left hand side.
Now when I click on them , they kinda flash as though they were going to
open..but nothing happens. However, If I right click and chose open, they
open on a beautiful black background, and on the left hand side column
not only is the picture or pictures that I have chosen, but also some that
were recently opned, even though they may no longer be in their folder.
In order to close out, I have to do a command q, or else I can not get back
to desktop.
I am running a 6 core Mac pro, 16 gig of ram, and Mountain lion(up to date)
thanks,
Jeannie
--
Jeannie
View my images :
http://www.pbase.
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Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:15 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
On Jan 21, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Jeannie wrote:
> I am having a strange problem and don't know if it is something I did, or
> if the latest upgrade to Mountain Lion did it.
>
> I put my photos into folders. Previously, I could click on them and they
> would open. I could even open as many as I wanted and they would appear on
> a column on the left hand side.
>
> Now when I click on them , they kinda flash as though they were going to
> open..but nothing happens. However, If I right click and chose open, they
> open on a beautiful black background, and on the left hand side column
> not only is the picture or pictures that I have chosen, but also some that
> were recently opned, even though they may no longer be in their folder.
Need more info. What are you trying to view them with: Aperture, iPhoto, Preview, what?
Considering you are talking about a column on the left side, I guess it is in iPhoto? When launching it hold down the command and option keys and you will be given the option to repair various things.
Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:17 am (PST) . Posted by:
"John Ross" maltcote@btinternet.com
Hi, I think I'm missing some basic point here, but . . .
I use an Airport Express to stream music over wireless from my Time Capsule (Router). I have changed the wireless password on the TC and now the AE can't get on the network - how do I change the wireless password for the AE? I've tried Airport Utility but that expects to be able to connect via wireless! Help please!
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I use an Airport Express to stream music over wireless from my Time Capsule (Router). I have changed the wireless password on the TC and now the AE can't get on the network - how do I change the wireless password for the AE? I've tried Airport Utility but that expects to be able to connect via wireless! Help please!
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Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:38 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I don't have either of those but I would change the TC's password back so
the AE can connect (or remove encryption altogether), then set the new
password on the AE first, then set it on the TC last of all.
Otto
On 21 January 2013 17:16, John Ross johnaross@mac.com > wrote:
> Hi, I think I'm missing some basic point here, but . . .
>
> I use an Airport Express to stream music over wireless from my Time
> Capsule (Router). I have changed the wireless password on the TC and now
> the AE can't get on the network - how do I change the wireless password for
> the AE? I've tried Airport Utility but that expects to be able to connect
> via wireless! Help please!
>
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the AE can connect (or remove encryption altogether), then set the new
password on the AE first, then set it on the TC last of all.
Otto
On 21 January 2013 17:16, John Ross johnaross@mac.
> Hi, I think I'm missing some basic point here, but . . .
>
> I use an Airport Express to stream music over wireless from my Time
> Capsule (Router). I have changed the wireless password on the TC and now
> the AE can't get on the network - how do I change the wireless password for
> the AE? I've tried Airport Utility but that expects to be able to connect
> via wireless! Help please!
>
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Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:25 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"davidu" davidoutterback
What is a good database. Excel crashes, often the links
don't work. Does the imac version of excel crash like
m.s's? I use a lot of spreadsheets, used to have FOCUS
on the corporations computer system, but being retired
excel just crashes too much. I don't know what 'R' means.
I getting ready to buy a new computer and don't know if
imac runs better?
The experts at the corporation didn't think much of FOCUS PC
and then there was a move to SQL. Being able to access
fields of differant files and run a report is nice, but
excel doesn't do a good job of it. I don't know whats
the best to set up a sysstem on a PC.
I used to be able to run FIRST CHOICE but the new computers
don't allow it to run. My old IBM PC back years ago worked
great with FIRST CHOICE but now thats obsolete. And I didn't
have all the m.s. crashes I do now.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
> You say "reaching the limites of excel". I have to ask: just what are you
> doing? Why do you think your Mac is the problem?
>
> If it's a database, shouldn't you be using a proper database app?
>
> If it's stats, shouldn't you be using R or similar?
>
> (Excel tries to do everything, but it's a *spreadsheet* app, not a true
> database or stats app.)
>
> Otto
>
> On 1 January 2013 00:55, davidu wrote:
>
> > In 2011 I did a lot of research on a MC812LL/A
> > I do heavy data in excel sometime reaching the limites of excel
> > of which my corrent computer purchased in 2007 having replace
> > the motherboard with a generic one and upgrading my memory
> > using windows home xp and microsoft home and student 2010.
> >
> > I've been reading posts now for over a year and it seems
> > like there are problems with the imacs too.
> >
> > So now again I'm thinking about purchasing a imac and I've a few
> > questions:
> >
> > 1) MC812LL/A has old version and new version. Whats better? or
> > is there a better option?
> > B&H discontinued the MC812LL/A and I wonder about the new
> > version. Articles comparing to the old version versus the
> > new verwsion are no longer on line. It sound like the
> > old verson has advantages. What are they?
> > 2) The MC812LL/A purchased in 2011 did not have the LION installed
> > and I live abroad now, having no way to install this within the
> > 30 days after purchase.
> > 3) What do you do when your 3 year additional warrenty runs out.
> > Is it worth fixing having to depend on a Mac store repairing it.
> >
> > 4) On utube a fellow claims bad connections, no longer gold
> > connections account for the shorter life of a computer.
> > Does the Imac store clean computer for corresion under their
> > service plan or extra warrenty period?
> >
> > I use of course email, facebook, online searches,
> > have lots of excel spreadsheets that are extrememly large,
> > have thousands of photos and have an EPson2780 to load pix
> > wondering if that will work on MC812LL/A ?
> > Am tentatively planning on getting an IPOD for music in lieu of
> > my technics stereo and digitize the 200 CD's.
> >
> > Thus I need at least 1 tet of memory in additon to my passbook
> > essential, a godsave of the hours of work on programs, data,
> > and other notepad messages.
> >
> > I am able to ship the computer abroad and use the Imac store
> > abroad under warrenty as I've checked that out in emails to
> > Mac. The cost of buying abroad at imac is considerably more
> > than the u.s. and I must declare and pay an extrea $60 for the
> > shipping of a new computer.
> >
> > 5) What are the biggest problems with a new Imac, especially the MC812LL/A?
> >
> > I'm 71, a a retired corporate analyst and I don't want a lot of
> > problems as I grow older. I cannot really comprehend why a computer
> > can't last as long as a television that also has tin connections.
> >
> > 6) With my intel motherboard, when it dies a few years later
> > there are no replacements available. With a Imac, are original
> > motherboards available after a few years in lieu of a generic
> > motherboard.
> >
> > 7) How often do you have to replace RAM memory?
> >
> > 8) I've read on your forum one can download microsoft
> > exel. How does that work?
> >
> > 9) How can I transfer m.s. word, paint, notepad to an IMAC
> > or are there problems as I've years of data I would not want
> > to lose.
> >
> > 10) Are there any other issues I might need to know?
> > 11) Does magicjack work well with the IMac?
> > 12) Wheres the best place to purchase an Imac especially the
> > old version of MC812LL/A or is there a better Imac?
> >
> > I don't want to get where I spend more than five hours a day
> > on the computer and have to devote so much time to problems.
> > Over the last year I've read posts by those whom love windows
> > but were happy to switch to Apples Imac.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
don't work. Does the imac version of excel crash like
m.s's? I use a lot of spreadsheets, used to have FOCUS
on the corporations computer system, but being retired
excel just crashes too much. I don't know what 'R' means.
I getting ready to buy a new computer and don't know if
imac runs better?
The experts at the corporation didn't think much of FOCUS PC
and then there was a move to SQL. Being able to access
fields of differant files and run a report is nice, but
excel doesn't do a good job of it. I don't know whats
the best to set up a sysstem on a PC.
I used to be able to run FIRST CHOICE but the new computers
don't allow it to run. My old IBM PC back years ago worked
great with FIRST CHOICE but now thats obsolete. And I didn't
have all the m.s. crashes I do now.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> You say "reaching the limites of excel". I have to ask: just what are you
> doing? Why do you think your Mac is the problem?
>
> If it's a database, shouldn'
>
> If it's stats, shouldn'
>
> (Excel tries to do everything, but it's a *spreadsheet* app, not a true
> database or stats app.)
>
> Otto
>
> On 1 January 2013 00:55, davidu wrote:
>
> > In 2011 I did a lot of research on a MC812LL/A
> > I do heavy data in excel sometime reaching the limites of excel
> > of which my corrent computer purchased in 2007 having replace
> > the motherboard with a generic one and upgrading my memory
> > using windows home xp and microsoft home and student 2010.
> >
> > I've been reading posts now for over a year and it seems
> > like there are problems with the imacs too.
> >
> > So now again I'm thinking about purchasing a imac and I've a few
> > questions:
> >
> > 1) MC812LL/A has old version and new version. Whats better? or
> > is there a better option?
> > B&H discontinued the MC812LL/A and I wonder about the new
> > version. Articles comparing to the old version versus the
> > new verwsion are no longer on line. It sound like the
> > old verson has advantages. What are they?
> > 2) The MC812LL/A purchased in 2011 did not have the LION installed
> > and I live abroad now, having no way to install this within the
> > 30 days after purchase.
> > 3) What do you do when your 3 year additional warrenty runs out.
> > Is it worth fixing having to depend on a Mac store repairing it.
> >
> > 4) On utube a fellow claims bad connections, no longer gold
> > connections account for the shorter life of a computer.
> > Does the Imac store clean computer for corresion under their
> > service plan or extra warrenty period?
> >
> > I use of course email, facebook, online searches,
> > have lots of excel spreadsheets that are extrememly large,
> > have thousands of photos and have an EPson2780 to load pix
> > wondering if that will work on MC812LL/A ?
> > Am tentatively planning on getting an IPOD for music in lieu of
> > my technics stereo and digitize the 200 CD's.
> >
> > Thus I need at least 1 tet of memory in additon to my passbook
> > essential, a godsave of the hours of work on programs, data,
> > and other notepad messages.
> >
> > I am able to ship the computer abroad and use the Imac store
> > abroad under warrenty as I've checked that out in emails to
> > Mac. The cost of buying abroad at imac is considerably more
> > than the u.s. and I must declare and pay an extrea $60 for the
> > shipping of a new computer.
> >
> > 5) What are the biggest problems with a new Imac, especially the MC812LL/A?
> >
> > I'm 71, a a retired corporate analyst and I don't want a lot of
> > problems as I grow older. I cannot really comprehend why a computer
> > can't last as long as a television that also has tin connections.
> >
> > 6) With my intel motherboard, when it dies a few years later
> > there are no replacements available. With a Imac, are original
> > motherboards available after a few years in lieu of a generic
> > motherboard.
> >
> > 7) How often do you have to replace RAM memory?
> >
> > 8) I've read on your forum one can download microsoft
> > exel. How does that work?
> >
> > 9) How can I transfer m.s. word, paint, notepad to an IMAC
> > or are there problems as I've years of data I would not want
> > to lose.
> >
> > 10) Are there any other issues I might need to know?
> > 11) Does magicjack work well with the IMac?
> > 12) Wheres the best place to purchase an Imac especially the
> > old version of MC812LL/A or is there a better Imac?
> >
> > I don't want to get where I spend more than five hours a day
> > on the computer and have to devote so much time to problems.
> > Over the last year I've read posts by those whom love windows
> > but were happy to switch to Apples Imac.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:38 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"bobbystar" bobbystar
I installed Mountain Lion a few days ago on both my iMac and my MacBook Pro.
On the iMac I get a pop up message that says that my computer's local host name has been changed from Bobs-iMac-4.local to Bobs-iMac-5.local with the number going up each session. Yesterday it went from 3 to 4 and the day before it went from 2 to 3.
It tells me to go into System Preferences, click sharing, click edit and type the name in the Local Hostname field. If I do this should I type Bobs-iMac-1.local and will that fix my problem?
Other than this everything seems to be working fine.
I will post my MacBook Pro problem in a different message.
TIA,
Bobby
On the iMac I get a pop up message that says that my computer'
It tells me to go into System Preferences, click sharing, click edit and type the name in the Local Hostname field. If I do this should I type Bobs-iMac-1.
Other than this everything seems to be working fine.
I will post my MacBook Pro problem in a different message.
TIA,
Bobby
Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:44 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"bobbystar" bobbystar
After installing Mountain Lion on my MacBook Pro a few days ago I encountered a printing problem.
I usually print to an HP LaserJet Professional P1102W with this computer. it will not print until I cancel the print job in the printer Queue or close the lid on the computer.
Is there a setting that got wacky and needs to be changed?
TIA,
Bobby
I usually print to an HP LaserJet Professional P1102W with this computer. it will not print until I cancel the print job in the printer Queue or close the lid on the computer.
Is there a setting that got wacky and needs to be changed?
TIA,
Bobby
Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:57 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Barbara Adamski" bkadamski
Did you upload the latest driver from the HP site? Try that.
I've had problems with my HP products with every OS update, FWIW.
Barb
On 2013-01-21, at 1:44 PM, bobbystar bobbystar@yahoo.com > wrote:
> After installing Mountain Lion on my MacBook Pro a few days ago I encountered a printing problem.
>
> I usually print to an HP LaserJet Professional P1102W with this computer. it will not print until I cancel the print job in the printer Queue or close the lid on the computer.
>
> Is there a setting that got wacky and needs to be changed?
>
> TIA,
>
> Bobby
>
>
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I've had problems with my HP products with every OS update, FWIW.
Barb
On 2013-01-21, at 1:44 PM, bobbystar bobbystar@yahoo.
> After installing Mountain Lion on my MacBook Pro a few days ago I encountered a printing problem.
>
> I usually print to an HP LaserJet Professional P1102W with this computer. it will not print until I cancel the print job in the printer Queue or close the lid on the computer.
>
> Is there a setting that got wacky and needs to be changed?
>
> TIA,
>
> Bobby
>
>
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Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:48 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
A solution came from a member of another Mac-related list.
There is an "X-setting" parameter in Eudora that determines that Eudora sets the Default Mail Reader value. To turn it off, follow these steps.
It works!
Cheers,
Dave
- - -
MAKE EUDORA THE DEFAULT MAIL PROGRAM (y = YES, n = NO)
1. Open a new message in Eudora.
2. Paste this (including brackets) into the text field:
3. Command-click on the pasted text and enter "n" (without quotes) in the field.
4. Click the "Set Setting" button.
5. Quit Eudora without saving the message.
For a complete list of settings that you can set in this manner, see:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/mac/xsettings.html
-=-=-=-
> I have set the default mail program to "Mail (4.6)" in Mail's Preferences several times.
>
> Given time, it always reverts back to Eudora and when I click a mail link in Safari will launch Eudora.
>
> I can repair disk permissions, reset the PRAM, toss Mail Preference file, and other measures, but nothing fixes this permanently. It's not clear to me exactly when -- and under what conditions -- it reverts to Eudora.
>
> Anyone else have this issue? A fix?
>
> I need to keep Eudora around because I still search my 15-year-plus archive of mail occasionally and nothing searches like Eudora.
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There is an "X-setting&quo
It works!
Cheers,
Dave
- - -
MAKE EUDORA THE DEFAULT MAIL PROGRAM (y = YES, n = NO)
1. Open a new message in Eudora.
2. Paste this (including brackets) into the text field:
3. Command-click on the pasted text and enter "n" (without quotes) in the field.
4. Click the "Set Setting" button.
5. Quit Eudora without saving the message.
For a complete list of settings that you can set in this manner, see:
http://www.eudora.
-=-=-=-
> I have set the default mail program to "Mail (4.6)" in Mail's Preferences several times.
>
> Given time, it always reverts back to Eudora and when I click a mail link in Safari will launch Eudora.
>
> I can repair disk permissions, reset the PRAM, toss Mail Preference file, and other measures, but nothing fixes this permanently. It's not clear to me exactly when -- and under what conditions -- it reverts to Eudora.
>
> Anyone else have this issue? A fix?
>
> I need to keep Eudora around because I still search my 15-year-plus archive of mail occasionally and nothing searches like Eudora.
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