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Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
Cheap is cheap, but cheap is not always "bad." If you don't have money and you need a computer, Apple might as well not exist. Apple simply doesn't do cheap. While I have no great love for HP, Just remember they made a laptop you could afford. They had to make big compromises to do this. They also make $2000 laptops. These are much nicer. ;)
A world without cheap PCs would be a deeply impoverished world indeed.
Unfortunately, if you want help with your HP, you'll need to ask elsewhere. Fortunately there are many, many elsewhere's for Windows.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com
On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:46 PM, bobbystar wrote:
> I basically converted to Apple products over the last few years. I had been using MS based machines since the days of MS DOS. I still have two reliable Windows machines that are in use for specific software and for serial and parrallel port devices.
>
> My wife has been complaining about the slowness of her Compaq tower for a few years so today I bought her an inexpensive HP laptop. I was too cheap to get her a Mac. She is happy to have the new laptop but what a PIA compared to my MACs.
>
> It will probably take days to get it set up properly and I now have to learn how to navigate Windows 7. I was surprised at how slow it is compared to my macs, I guess I got spoiled.
>
> Now we can't print to out HP wireless printer since I tried to install hit in the new laptop. It knocked it off the loop.
>
> I was shocked to discover how flimsy the laptop case is, the plastic is really thin. I think my ten year old Gateway will outlast this new one.
>
> Sorry for the venting but I wanted to share my stupidity with the world.
>
> Bobby
>
>
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A world without cheap PCs would be a deeply impoverished world indeed.
Unfortunately, if you want help with your HP, you'll need to ask elsewhere. Fortunately there are many, many elsewhere's for Windows.
Cheers,
tod
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-
On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:46 PM, bobbystar wrote:
> I basically converted to Apple products over the last few years. I had been using MS based machines since the days of MS DOS. I still have two reliable Windows machines that are in use for specific software and for serial and parrallel port devices.
>
> My wife has been complaining about the slowness of her Compaq tower for a few years so today I bought her an inexpensive HP laptop. I was too cheap to get her a Mac. She is happy to have the new laptop but what a PIA compared to my MACs.
>
> It will probably take days to get it set up properly and I now have to learn how to navigate Windows 7. I was surprised at how slow it is compared to my macs, I guess I got spoiled.
>
> Now we can't print to out HP wireless printer since I tried to install hit in the new laptop. It knocked it off the loop.
>
> I was shocked to discover how flimsy the laptop case is, the plastic is really thin. I think my ten year old Gateway will outlast this new one.
>
> Sorry for the venting but I wanted to share my stupidity with the world.
>
> Bobby
>
>
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Mactracker is an app you download and it gets updated as Apple add new
products.
For online references, these are both very good
<http://lowendmac.com/profiles.htm >
<http://www.everymac.com/ >
Otto
On 12 July 2012 02:04, cnltnn <cnltnn@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I think it will only upgrade to 2 gig. I wonder how long I can run without
> Lion.
> I will check mactracker to find out about my new Mac. I'm so excited.
> Thanks!
>
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products.
For online references, these are both very good
<http://lowendmac.
<http://www.everymac
Otto
On 12 July 2012 02:04, cnltnn <cnltnn@yahoo.
> I think it will only upgrade to 2 gig. I wonder how long I can run without
> Lion.
> I will check mactracker to find out about my new Mac. I'm so excited.
> Thanks!
>
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"cnltnn" cnltnn
I have more questions about transferring files.
I went to Mac help and used Migration tool with firewire.
I was confused. It didn't let me pic individual files. I could choose all apps, all photos, all documents,etc.
I am hesitant to dump 12 years of old Mac onto my new Mac. I ran both OS9 and OSX apps and several duplicate apps like iTunes that I know are older versions than are on my new Mac. I am pretty sure I can no longer use the OS9 apps on this new Mac.
I chose just the photos and documents to start. It took 45 minutes and when I disconnected the two Macs, none of the files where on my new Mac. I am pretty sure I followed all the steps.
The main applications I am concerned about it iTunes (to sync my beloved iPod applications) and iPhoto. There is strangely no iPhoto on my new Mac.
Any clue what I am doing wrong or what I need to to?
Thanks!
-Carrie
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , OBrien <bco@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:49:26 -0000, cnltnn wrote:
> > 1. How do
> > I get what files I need off it and on my "new" Mac?
> >
> > 3. I have 14 days to return it. It seems fine except the remote is
> > missing. What should I check for?
>
> You can connect them via Ethernet or Firewire. Look in "Help" for instructions.
>
> Keep it running 24/7 and use it a lot doing a lot of different things.
>
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>
> O'Brien ¡V¡V¡V ¡V... .-. .. . -.
>
I went to Mac help and used Migration tool with firewire.
I was confused. It didn't let me pic individual files. I could choose all apps, all photos, all documents,etc.
I am hesitant to dump 12 years of old Mac onto my new Mac. I ran both OS9 and OSX apps and several duplicate apps like iTunes that I know are older versions than are on my new Mac. I am pretty sure I can no longer use the OS9 apps on this new Mac.
I chose just the photos and documents to start. It took 45 minutes and when I disconnected the two Macs, none of the files where on my new Mac. I am pretty sure I followed all the steps.
The main applications I am concerned about it iTunes (to sync my beloved iPod applications) and iPhoto. There is strangely no iPhoto on my new Mac.
Any clue what I am doing wrong or what I need to to?
Thanks!
-Carrie
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:49:26 -0000, cnltnn wrote:
> > 1. How do
> > I get what files I need off it and on my "new" Mac?
> >
> > 3. I have 14 days to return it. It seems fine except the remote is
> > missing. What should I check for?
>
> You can connect them via Ethernet or Firewire. Look in "Help" for instructions.
>
> Keep it running 24/7 and use it a lot doing a lot of different things.
>
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>
> O'Brien ¡V¡V¡V ¡V... .-. .. . -.
>
Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:39 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"OBrien" conorboru
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 23:24:23 -0000, cnltnn wrote:
> I have more questions about transferring files.
It's been so long ago that I last transferred files from one Mac to another that I don't remember the details beyond "target" for the Firewire connection. I seem to recall that I could transfer individual files, but I'm just not sure. I think, with an Ethernet network set-up the the connected Macs appear on the Desktop like HDs.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
O'Brien ¡V¡V¡V ¡V... .-. .. . -.
> I have more questions about transferring files.
It's been so long ago that I last transferred files from one Mac to another that I don't remember the details beyond "target" for the Firewire connection. I seem to recall that I could transfer individual files, but I'm just not sure. I think, with an Ethernet network set-up the the connected Macs appear on the Desktop like HDs.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
O'Brien ¡V¡V¡V ¡V... .-. .. . -.
Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Paul Cartwright" mactechservices
Can you put the old hard drive in an external case reboot from it?
Then if you can also see the internal ssd drive perhaps run the 10.7.4 updated on it?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 12, 2012, at 7:29, "Robert" <cookrd1@discoveryowners.com > wrote:
> Late 2008 MBP 5,1
> Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to new 240GB SSD.
> Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and it booted up fine.
> Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> Reset PRAM
> Same thing
> Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
>
> IDEAS?
>
> Bob
>
>
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Then if you can also see the internal ssd drive perhaps run the 10.7.4 updated on it?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 12, 2012, at 7:29, "Robert" <cookrd1@discoveryow
> Late 2008 MBP 5,1
> Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to new 240GB SSD.
> Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and it booted up fine.
> Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> Reset PRAM
> Same thing
> Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
>
> IDEAS?
>
> Bob
>
>
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:57 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jurgen Richter" epsongroups
Hi Robert
- Does the boot process not need to boot through to the USB and/or
SATA-UAB driver in order to "see" the USB adapter you installed before
that device is in fact recognized?
- Can you boot from a DVD or CD that came with your MBP?
Perhaps plug the old drive back in again, and verify that things go back
to the way they were. Then once they are, go to the System Preferences
panel, verify that both drives are shown as bootable, then select the
SSD as your "new" boot drive, shut down and restart again, without
holding down the option key. That is to ensure the system just goes to
the SSD as you've already told it to boot from there. If this works,
then you could pull the hard drive out, since it is no longer looking
for it. (Assuming of course question 1 above is answered without having
to boot to any specific driver level first).
hth
Late 2008 MBP 5,1
Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to
new 240GB SSD.
Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I
restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from
and it booted up fine.
Next, replaced old HD with SSD
Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
Reset PRAM
Same thing
Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
IDEAS?
Bob
- Does the boot process not need to boot through to the USB and/or
SATA-UAB driver in order to "see" the USB adapter you installed before
that device is in fact recognized?
- Can you boot from a DVD or CD that came with your MBP?
Perhaps plug the old drive back in again, and verify that things go back
to the way they were. Then once they are, go to the System Preferences
panel, verify that both drives are shown as bootable, then select the
SSD as your "new" boot drive, shut down and restart again, without
holding down the option key. That is to ensure the system just goes to
the SSD as you've already told it to boot from there. If this works,
then you could pull the hard drive out, since it is no longer looking
for it. (Assuming of course question 1 above is answered without having
to boot to any specific driver level first).
hth
Late 2008 MBP 5,1
Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to
new 240GB SSD.
Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I
restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from
and it booted up fine.
Next, replaced old HD with SSD
Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
Reset PRAM
Same thing
Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
IDEAS?
Bob
Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Late 2008 MBP 5,1
> Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to new 240GB SSD.
> Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and it booted up fine.
Did you actually check to be certain that it *had* actually booted from the SSD?
Such as clicking "About This Mac" from the Apple menu, and looking at "Startup Disk"?
> Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> Reset PRAM
> Same thing
> Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
>
> IDEAS?
May I presume that you *did* use the GUID partitioning on the SSD?
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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> Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to new 240GB SSD.
> Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and it booted up fine.
Did you actually check to be certain that it *had* actually booted from the SSD?
Such as clicking "About This Mac" from the Apple menu, and looking at "Startup Disk"?
> Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> Reset PRAM
> Same thing
> Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
>
> IDEAS?
May I presume that you *did* use the GUID partitioning on the SSD?
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Late 2008 MBP 5,1
> Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to new 240GB SSD.
> Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and it booted up fine.
> Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> Reset PRAM
> Same thing
> Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
One of the potential problems with this method is that you end up with no Recovery Partition on the internal (SSD) drive.
Do you still have the MacOS Lion install file saved somewhere?
My approach would have been to:
1. Connect the new, blank, SSD externally, use Disk Utility to check if it's already partitioned with the GUID system.
2. Install the empty SSD in the computer, putting the former internal drive in an external case.
3. Boot from the (formerly internal, now external) rotating hard drive.
4. Check that the completely blank internal SSD is visible to the system. If in doubt, run Disk Utility.
5. Use my saved MacOS Lion install file to (a) install Lion on the SSD and (b) create the Recovery Partition on the SSD.
6. Use Migration Assistant to move data from the old rotating disk drive to the SSD.
--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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> Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to new 240GB SSD.
> Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and it booted up fine.
> Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> Reset PRAM
> Same thing
> Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
One of the potential problems with this method is that you end up with no Recovery Partition on the internal (SSD) drive.
Do you still have the MacOS Lion install file saved somewhere?
My approach would have been to:
1. Connect the new, blank, SSD externally, use Disk Utility to check if it's already partitioned with the GUID system.
2. Install the empty SSD in the computer, putting the former internal drive in an external case.
3. Boot from the (formerly internal, now external) rotating hard drive.
4. Check that the completely blank internal SSD is visible to the system. If in doubt, run Disk Utility.
5. Use my saved MacOS Lion install file to (a) install Lion on the SSD and (b) create the Recovery Partition on the SSD.
6. Use Migration Assistant to move data from the old rotating disk drive to the SSD.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bob Cook" cookrd1
I don't think there is a recovery partition on the spinning drive, not sure
why not. This computer started out with Leopard.
There are many posts on other forums about MBP's not able to "see" a SSD,
but no solutions.
I have the SSD in an external USB enclosure and can boot from it. I put it
in the MBP 5,1 and it will not boot from the SSD. If I put the spinning
drive in the enclosure, I can boot from it.
Right now, I have the SSD in an enclosure and the 1 TB HD back in the MBP.
The SSD is bootable (obviously, since I booted from in when it was in the
enclosure) when I look at Info in Disk Utility. Something strange, if I
look at it in Disk Utility, it shows up as Disk 1, Partition 2 (I don't
understand that, but then I don't understand my HD having Partitions 2, 3
and 4....what happened to Partition 1?).
When the SSD was in the enclosure, I clicked Settings->Startup Disk and
selected the SSD as the boot disk and it rebooted fine while in the
enclosure. Put the SSD back in the MBP and same problem, flashing
folder/question mark.
-Bob
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> > Late 2008 MBP 5,1
> > Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> > First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> > Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to
> new 240GB SSD.
> > Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I
> restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and
> it booted up fine.
> > Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> > Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> > Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> > Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> > Reset PRAM
> > Same thing
> > Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
>
> One of the potential problems with this method is that you end up with no
> Recovery Partition on the internal (SSD) drive.
>
> Do you still have the MacOS Lion install file saved somewhere?
>
> My approach would have been to:
> 1. Connect the new, blank, SSD externally, use Disk Utility to check if
> it's already partitioned with the GUID system.
>
> 2. Install the empty SSD in the computer, putting the former internal
> drive in an external case.
>
> 3. Boot from the (formerly internal, now external) rotating hard drive.
>
> 4. Check that the completely blank internal SSD is visible to the system.
> If in doubt, run Disk Utility.
>
> 5. Use my saved MacOS Lion install file to (a) install Lion on the SSD and
> (b) create the Recovery Partition on the SSD.
>
> 6. Use Migration Assistant to move data from the old rotating disk drive
> to the SSD.
>
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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why not. This computer started out with Leopard.
There are many posts on other forums about MBP's not able to "see" a SSD,
but no solutions.
I have the SSD in an external USB enclosure and can boot from it. I put it
in the MBP 5,1 and it will not boot from the SSD. If I put the spinning
drive in the enclosure, I can boot from it.
Right now, I have the SSD in an enclosure and the 1 TB HD back in the MBP.
The SSD is bootable (obviously, since I booted from in when it was in the
enclosure) when I look at Info in Disk Utility. Something strange, if I
look at it in Disk Utility, it shows up as Disk 1, Partition 2 (I don't
understand that, but then I don't understand my HD having Partitions 2, 3
and 4....what happened to Partition 1?).
When the SSD was in the enclosure, I clicked Settings->Startup Disk and
selected the SSD as the boot disk and it rebooted fine while in the
enclosure. Put the SSD back in the MBP and same problem, flashing
folder/question mark.
-Bob
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> > Late 2008 MBP 5,1
> > Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> > First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> > Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to
> new 240GB SSD.
> > Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I
> restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and
> it booted up fine.
> > Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> > Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> > Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> > Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> > Reset PRAM
> > Same thing
> > Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
>
> One of the potential problems with this method is that you end up with no
> Recovery Partition on the internal (SSD) drive.
>
> Do you still have the MacOS Lion install file saved somewhere?
>
> My approach would have been to:
> 1. Connect the new, blank, SSD externally, use Disk Utility to check if
> it's already partitioned with the GUID system.
>
> 2. Install the empty SSD in the computer, putting the former internal
> drive in an external case.
>
> 3. Boot from the (formerly internal, now external) rotating hard drive.
>
> 4. Check that the completely blank internal SSD is visible to the system.
> If in doubt, run Disk Utility.
>
> 5. Use my saved MacOS Lion install file to (a) install Lion on the SSD and
> (b) create the Recovery Partition on the SSD.
>
> 6. Use Migration Assistant to move data from the old rotating disk drive
> to the SSD.
>
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bob Cook" cookrd1
Yes and Yes.
-Bob
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
>
>
> Did you actually check to be certain that it *had* actually booted from
> the SSD?
> Such as clicking "About This Mac" from the Apple menu, and looking at
> "Startup Disk"?
>
>
>
> May I presume that you *did* use the GUID partitioning on the SSD?
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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-Bob
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
>
>
> Did you actually check to be certain that it *had* actually booted from
> the SSD?
> Such as clicking "About This Mac" from the Apple menu, and looking at
> "Startup Disk"?
>
>
>
> May I presume that you *did* use the GUID partitioning on the SSD?
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bob Cook" cookrd1
Typical problematic superdrive - I tried it once and no go. Will try again
later to boot from the Leopard DVD.
See my other responses - this seems to be a common problem with not being
able to "see" an SSD that replaced a HD. Some people seem to think this is
an Apple bug, but I don't know. I replaced two spinning hard drives in the
MBP with no problems.
BTW, I can put the SSD in an older Gateway laptop, format for NTFS and
install Win7 and it works fine. I don't understand why this process won't
work in the MBP - obviously the SSD drive works, I can boot Lion from in
the enclosure. But, put it back in the MBP and no go.
-Bob
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@sympatico.ca >wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hi Robert
>
> - Does the boot process not need to boot through to the USB and/or
> SATA-UAB driver in order to "see" the USB adapter you installed before
> that device is in fact recognized?
> - Can you boot from a DVD or CD that came with your MBP?
>
> Perhaps plug the old drive back in again, and verify that things go back
> to the way they were. Then once they are, go to the System Preferences
> panel, verify that both drives are shown as bootable, then select the
> SSD as your "new" boot drive, shut down and restart again, without
> holding down the option key. That is to ensure the system just goes to
> the SSD as you've already told it to boot from there. If this works,
> then you could pull the hard drive out, since it is no longer looking
> for it. (Assuming of course question 1 above is answered without having
> to boot to any specific driver level first).
>
> hth
>
>
> Late 2008 MBP 5,1
> Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to
> new 240GB SSD.
> Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I
> restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from
> and it booted up fine.
> Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> Reset PRAM
> Same thing
> Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
>
> IDEAS?
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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later to boot from the Leopard DVD.
See my other responses - this seems to be a common problem with not being
able to "see" an SSD that replaced a HD. Some people seem to think this is
an Apple bug, but I don't know. I replaced two spinning hard drives in the
MBP with no problems.
BTW, I can put the SSD in an older Gateway laptop, format for NTFS and
install Win7 and it works fine. I don't understand why this process won't
work in the MBP - obviously the SSD drive works, I can boot Lion from in
the enclosure. But, put it back in the MBP and no go.
-Bob
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@sympatico.
> **
>
>
> Hi Robert
>
> - Does the boot process not need to boot through to the USB and/or
> SATA-UAB driver in order to "see" the USB adapter you installed before
> that device is in fact recognized?
> - Can you boot from a DVD or CD that came with your MBP?
>
> Perhaps plug the old drive back in again, and verify that things go back
> to the way they were. Then once they are, go to the System Preferences
> panel, verify that both drives are shown as bootable, then select the
> SSD as your "new" boot drive, shut down and restart again, without
> holding down the option key. That is to ensure the system just goes to
> the SSD as you've already told it to boot from there. If this works,
> then you could pull the hard drive out, since it is no longer looking
> for it. (Assuming of course question 1 above is answered without having
> to boot to any specific driver level first).
>
> hth
>
>
> Late 2008 MBP 5,1
> Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
> First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
> Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to
> new 240GB SSD.
> Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I
> restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from
> and it booted up fine.
> Next, replaced old HD with SSD
> Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
> Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
> Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
> Reset PRAM
> Same thing
> Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
>
> IDEAS?
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen
It is good to see this list come alive again. It is also good to see members and moderators helping each other.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net
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doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlin
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Robert" cookrd1
More info....booted up from original Leopard DVD. Disk Utility could not see SSD which is in the MBP. Continued on to the screen where you select drive to install Leopard on and there is no drive shown. The SSD is formatted GUID/journaled.
Now what?
Bob
Now what?
Bob
Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"LouisD" ldina
Did you buy the SSD from OWC? I thought you might have since they sell.it as a 240gb drive instead of calling it a 256gb.
Call their tech support. They must have seen this before, since they sell a lot of SSDs and specialize on Macs. Maybe they have a solution.
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Robert" <cookrd1@...> wrote:
>
> More info....booted up from original Leopard DVD. Disk Utility could not see SSD which is in the MBP. Continued on to the screen where you select drive to install Leopard on and there is no drive shown. The SSD is formatted GUID/journaled.
>
> Now what?
>
> Bob
>
Call their tech support. They must have seen this before, since they sell a lot of SSDs and specialize on Macs. Maybe they have a solution.
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> More info....booted up from original Leopard DVD. Disk Utility could not see SSD which is in the MBP. Continued on to the screen where you select drive to install Leopard on and there is no drive shown. The SSD is formatted GUID/journaled.
>
> Now what?
>
> Bob
>
Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:14 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Mark Allen" mda12003
On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:08 PM, "LouisD" <lou@loudina.
> Did you buy the SSD from OWC? I thought you might have since they sell.it as a 240gb drive instead of calling it a 256gb.
>
> Call their tech support. They must have seen this before, since they sell a lot of SSDs and specialize on Macs. Maybe they have a solution.
>
> Lou
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > More info....booted up from original Leopard DVD. Disk Utility could not see SSD which is in the MBP. Continued on to the screen where you select drive to install Leopard on and there is no drive shown. The SSD is formatted GUID/journaled.
> >
> > Now what?
> >
> > Bob
> >
>
>
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