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Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Jeannie wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> I tried to find their site to see what it is all about and if I would like
> to use it, but the links given all have a 403 error code. Do you have a
> good link for them?
I downloaded it yesterday from here: <http://www.macupdat
Daly
Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:12 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jeannie" chloe898
Thanks..I finally found where to download it.
Jeannie
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 9:31 AM, OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:26:37 -0600, Jeannie wrote:
> > I tried to find their site to see what it is all about and if I would
> like
> > to use it, but the links given all have a 403 error code. Do you have a
> > good link for them?
>
> Look in the "About Gyazmail" in the menu.
>
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Jeannie
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 9:31 AM, OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:26:37 -0600, Jeannie wrote:
> > I tried to find their site to see what it is all about and if I would
> like
> > to use it, but the links given all have a 403 error code. Do you have a
> > good link for them?
>
> Look in the "About Gyazmail" in the menu.
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"pat412255" pat412255
Try using the keyboard shortcut Command+Shift+I to produce an Apple mail page that will include the link to the YouTube URL you want to forward.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Ken" <avlisk@...> wrote:
>
> I tried that, but it sends gibberish.
> Ken Silva
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Forrest Leedy <f.leedy@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:10 AM, "Ken" <avlisk@> wrote:
> >
> > > I just installed Mountain Lion Saturday to get the mirroring function, and it works great. But, in the new OS, I've lost the ability to forward a YouTube page link. It used to be in Safari, under the "File" pull-down menu. I forget what it was called, but clicking on it would open an email page and put that YouTube link in the body of the new email.
> > >
> > > Any work-arounds to get this function back?
> > > Thanks.
> > > Ken SIlva
> >
> > I think what you are asking for is under Safari>file>share.
> >
> >
> > Forrest
> >
> >  iMac 27" 12,2
> > 3.1 GHz Intel Core i5
> > 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
> > OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
> >
> >  MacBook 2,1
> > 2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo
> > 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
> > OS 10.7.4 Lion
> >
>
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I tried that, but it sends gibberish.
> Ken Silva
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:10 AM, "Ken" <avlisk@> wrote:
> >
> > > I just installed Mountain Lion Saturday to get the mirroring function, and it works great. But, in the new OS, I've lost the ability to forward a YouTube page link. It used to be in Safari, under the "File" pull-down menu. I forget what it was called, but clicking on it would open an email page and put that YouTube link in the body of the new email.
> > >
> > > Any work-arounds to get this function back?
> > > Thanks.
> > > Ken SIlva
> >
> > I think what you are asking for is under Safari>file>
> >
> >
> > Forrest
> >
> >  iMac 27" 12,2
> > 3.1 GHz Intel Core i5
> > 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
> > OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
> >
> >  MacBook 2,1
> > 2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo
> > 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
> > OS 10.7.4 Lion
> >
>
Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ken" avliska
That last link you sent me explained it. It's a button with a pull-down menu way over on the right side. It's now a 3 step process instead of the old way which was one click. Thanks for that, as I can now do what I want again. I will make the observation that change is OK. But we used to joke that the philosophy of Window was "why click once when you can click 3 times." Seems to me that Apple is following the same path. However, I'm not a computer guy, and will resort to pencil and paper whenever I can, so they aren't writing software for me, and I understand that. Thanks again, Daly Jessup.
Ken Silva
> >> I just installed Mountain Lion Saturday to get the mirroring function, and it works great. But, in the new OS, I've lost the ability to forward a YouTube page link. It used to be in Safari, under the "File" pull-down menu. I forget what it was called, but clicking on it would open an email page and put that YouTube link in the body of the new email.
> >>
> >> Any work-arounds to get this function back?
>
> I'm still using Lion, but for me, in Safari 6, the File menu in Safari offers "Mail contents of this page," and "Mail link to this page," both with keyboard shortcuts assigned. In both cases, it opens an email with the selected content, and the cursor blinking in the "To" field.
>
> Daly
>
Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:15 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Forrest Leedy" forrkazu
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:56 AM, "Ken" <avlisk@cox.net> wrote:
> I tried that, but it sends gibberish.
> Ken Silva
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
>>
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:10 AM, "Ken" <avlisk@...> wrote:
>>
>>> I just installed Mountain Lion Saturday to get the mirroring function, and it works great. But, in the new OS, I've lost the ability to forward a YouTube page link. It used to be in Safari, under the "File" pull-down menu. I forget what it was called, but clicking on it would open an email page and put that YouTube link in the body of the new email.
>>>
>>> Any work-arounds to get this function back?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Ken SIlva
>>
>> I think what you are asking for is under Safari>file>
>>
>>
>> Forrest
>>
>>  iMac 27" 12,2
>> 3.1 GHz Intel Core i5
>> 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
>> OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
>>
>>  MacBook 2,1
>> 2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo
>> 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
>> OS 10.7.4 Lion
It works for me. It actually copied it over as the web page, but you have the option at the top below the signature to send the contents in several different formats, one of which is as a link and that link is correct on my Mountain Lion.
Forrest
 iMac 27" 12,2
3.1 GHz Intel Core i5
12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
OS 10.8 Mountain Lion
 MacBook 2,1
2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo
2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
OS 10.7.4 Lion
Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:36 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"us2forever" rksangelkayann
Safari works fine for me and I have no problems with Launchpad. I don't use smart Mailbox so I don't know about that.
I would like to know how to empty my cache. They mention the "system file" but there are a few caches in there and I don't want to delete the wrong files.
Mountain Lion is fine with me. Now if I could just have an iPad and an iPhone I would really like it.
Kay
MacBook Air
Mac OS X 10.8
1.8 GHz Intel Core i7
4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3
MacBook Pro 1.1
Mac OS X 10.6.8
1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo
1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
MacBook
Mac OS X 10.6.7
2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:55 AM, John Masters <johnmasters@me.com > wrote:
After consulting developers and user groups and searching online I decided to go ahead and upgrade from Lion as all my essential apps seemed to be supported. The good news is that all my third party apps work fine in Mountain Lion. The bad news is that three Apple apps don't. Not huge problems but enough to be annoying.
1. Safari keeps crashing, even when I'm not actually using my Mac (27" iMac Mid-2011 12GB RAM)
2. Launchpad shows apps in a 7 X 5 grid with plenty of empty space at the edges. Before the upgrade it took up the whole screen.
3. Mail app has a curious behaviour. I have a smart mailbox to collect all unread mail. If there is only one mail in the mailbox and I click on to read it, it stays marked as unread both in the mail window and as a notification in the dock icon. As soon as another mail comes in the previous mail gets automatically marked as read. If there are several mails in the mailbox there is no problem as clicking on each immediately removes the unread marker.
As I say, no big deal, but curious.
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I would like to know how to empty my cache. They mention the "system file" but there are a few caches in there and I don't want to delete the wrong files.
Mountain Lion is fine with me. Now if I could just have an iPad and an iPhone I would really like it.
Kay
MacBook Air
Mac OS X 10.8
1.8 GHz Intel Core i7
4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3
MacBook Pro 1.1
Mac OS X 10.6.8
1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo
1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
MacBook
Mac OS X 10.6.7
2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:55 AM, John Masters <johnmasters@
After consulting developers and user groups and searching online I decided to go ahead and upgrade from Lion as all my essential apps seemed to be supported. The good news is that all my third party apps work fine in Mountain Lion. The bad news is that three Apple apps don't. Not huge problems but enough to be annoying.
1. Safari keeps crashing, even when I'm not actually using my Mac (27" iMac Mid-2011 12GB RAM)
2. Launchpad shows apps in a 7 X 5 grid with plenty of empty space at the edges. Before the upgrade it took up the whole screen.
3. Mail app has a curious behaviour. I have a smart mailbox to collect all unread mail. If there is only one mail in the mailbox and I click on to read it, it stays marked as unread both in the mail window and as a notification in the dock icon. As soon as another mail comes in the previous mail gets automatically marked as read. If there are several mails in the mailbox there is no problem as clicking on each immediately removes the unread marker.
As I say, no big deal, but curious.
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:42 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"paul smith" waldonny
*All* cache files are deletable. They get recreated if/when needed.
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PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.8 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.1.1
On Jul 29, 2012, at 1:36 PM, us2forever <us2forever@frontiernet.net > wrote:
> I would like to know how to empty my cache. They mention the "system file" but there are a few caches in there and I don't want to delete the wrong files.
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PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.8 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.1.1
On Jul 29, 2012, at 1:36 PM, us2forever <us2forever@frontier
> I would like to know how to empty my cache. They mention the "system file" but there are a few caches in there and I don't want to delete the wrong files.
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:11 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ken" avliska
Yesterday, after buying Mountain Lion, my new Airport Express didn't work. So, I downloaded some firmware to it, and restored its operation. SInce that worked, I thought I'd try the same thing with my 10 year old Airport Extreme. It's the basic hub that I use to connect to the internet. The Express is just to get audio to a different room. Anyway, the Apple website says my Extreme is too old and I can't update it. Therefore, my question is this: Should I buy a new Extreme to replace the 10 year old one. It still seems to work OK. I do get lots of buffering during some live streaming, but I've no way of knowing if this is a function of a 10 year old Airport or something else. I'm guessing it's the age of the Airport Extreme. What do you folks think/recommend? Thanks.
Ken Silva
Ken Silva
Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:36 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Ken wrote:
> Yesterday, after buying Mountain Lion, my new Airport Express didn't work. So, I downloaded some firmware to it, and restored its operation. SInce that worked, I thought I'd try the same thing with my 10 year old Airport Extreme. It's the basic hub that I use to connect to the internet. The Express is just to get audio to a different room. Anyway, the Apple website says my Extreme is too old and I can't update it. Therefore, my question is this: Should I buy a new Extreme to replace the 10 year old one. It still seems to work OK. I do get lots of buffering during some live streaming, but I've no way of knowing if this is a function of a 10 year old Airport or something else. I'm guessing it's the age of the Airport Extreme. What do you folks think/recommend? Thanks.
A year or so ago we updated our Airport Extreme and are very happy with it. It's fast. It has multiple Ethernet connections. We get no delays on transmission. My only grief is that I seem to have lost the ability to connect to my home network with FTP, but that might be the new operating system, not the router.
Anyway, I think ten years is a fair run, and you should update your device.
Daly
Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I wouldn't expect a wifi router to get slower with age. Unless you have a
*very* fast broadband connection the Extreme won't be bottleneck. How fast
is your connection?
Otto
On 29 July 2012 19:11, Ken <avlisk@cox.net> wrote:
> Yesterday, after buying Mountain Lion, my new Airport Express didn't work.
> So, I downloaded some firmware to it, and restored its operation. SInce
> that worked, I thought I'd try the same thing with my 10 year old Airport
> Extreme. It's the basic hub that I use to connect to the internet. The
> Express is just to get audio to a different room. Anyway, the Apple website
> says my Extreme is too old and I can't update it. Therefore, my question is
> this: Should I buy a new Extreme to replace the 10 year old one. It still
> seems to work OK. I do get lots of buffering during some live streaming,
> but I've no way of knowing if this is a function of a 10 year old Airport
> or something else. I'm guessing it's the age of the Airport Extreme. What
> do you folks think/recommend? Thanks.
>
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*very* fast broadband connection the Extreme won't be bottleneck. How fast
is your connection?
Otto
On 29 July 2012 19:11, Ken <avlisk@cox.net> wrote:
> Yesterday, after buying Mountain Lion, my new Airport Express didn't work.
> So, I downloaded some firmware to it, and restored its operation. SInce
> that worked, I thought I'd try the same thing with my 10 year old Airport
> Extreme. It's the basic hub that I use to connect to the internet. The
> Express is just to get audio to a different room. Anyway, the Apple website
> says my Extreme is too old and I can't update it. Therefore, my question is
> this: Should I buy a new Extreme to replace the 10 year old one. It still
> seems to work OK. I do get lots of buffering during some live streaming,
> but I've no way of knowing if this is a function of a 10 year old Airport
> or something else. I'm guessing it's the age of the Airport Extreme. What
> do you folks think/recommend? Thanks.
>
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:18 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> The designation "Mid 2011 MacBook Air" specifies one 11" model and one 13" model, also designated "MacBookAir4,1" and "MacBookAir4,2".
>>
>> On your machine, click on "About This Mac" in the Apple menu, then click "More Info...", then "System Report..."
>>
>> When you click "Hardware" in the left pane of the resulting window, the second item on the right should be a designator like "MacBookAir4,2" or "MacBookAir3,2".
>
> Jim, that's really useful info. Do you have the same info for "Mid-2011" iMacs? I occasionally need to know if a given iMac will still run Snow Leopard, and it would help so much to know for sure what model designation would tell me a given iMac is before or after the "no Snow Leopard" cutoff.
> Daly
I am not someone who remembers everything about every Mac ever made.
There's an App for that.
MacTracker - <http://www.mactracker.ca >
There are 2 "Mid-2011" iMacs:
21.5"
> Model Identifier iMac12,1
> Model Number A1311
> Order Number MC309LL/A (2.5 GHz), MC812LL/A (2.7 GHz)
and 27"
> Model Identifier iMac12,2
> Model Number A1312
> Order Number MC813LL/A (2.7 GHz), MC814LL/A (3.1 GHz)
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>>
>> On your machine, click on "About This Mac" in the Apple menu, then click "More Info...", then "System Report..."
>>
>> When you click "Hardware" in the left pane of the resulting window, the second item on the right should be a designator like "MacBookAir4,
>
> Jim, that's really useful info. Do you have the same info for "Mid-2011" iMacs? I occasionally need to know if a given iMac will still run Snow Leopard, and it would help so much to know for sure what model designation would tell me a given iMac is before or after the "no Snow Leopard" cutoff.
> Daly
I am not someone who remembers everything about every Mac ever made.
There's an App for that.
MacTracker - <http://www.mactrack
There are 2 "Mid-2011" iMacs:
21.5"
> Model Identifier iMac12,1
> Model Number A1311
> Order Number MC309LL/A (2.5 GHz), MC812LL/A (2.7 GHz)
and 27"
> Model Identifier iMac12,2
> Model Number A1312
> Order Number MC813LL/A (2.7 GHz), MC814LL/A (3.1 GHz)
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 29 July 2012 19:18, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
>
> I am not someone who remembers everything about every Mac ever made.
> There's an App for that.
> MacTracker - <http://www.mactracker.ca >
>
> There are 2 "Mid-2011" iMacs:
>
> 21.5"
> > Model Identifier iMac12,1
> > Model Number A1311
> > Order Number MC309LL/A (2.5 GHz), MC812LL/A (2.7 GHz)
>
> and 27"
> > Model Identifier iMac12,2
> > Model Number A1312
> > Order Number MC813LL/A (2.7 GHz), MC814LL/A (3.1 GHz)
>
There are also 2 good websites for Mac info.
<http://lowendmac.com/profiles.htm >
<http://www.everymac.com/ >
Otto
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>
> I am not someone who remembers everything about every Mac ever made.
> There's an App for that.
> MacTracker - <http://www.mactrack
>
> There are 2 "Mid-2011" iMacs:
>
> 21.5"
> > Model Identifier iMac12,1
> > Model Number A1311
> > Order Number MC309LL/A (2.5 GHz), MC812LL/A (2.7 GHz)
>
> and 27"
> > Model Identifier iMac12,2
> > Model Number A1312
> > Order Number MC813LL/A (2.7 GHz), MC814LL/A (3.1 GHz)
>
There are also 2 good websites for Mac info.
<http://lowendmac.
<http://www.everymac
Otto
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Ardell Faul" computer_monitor_service_company
Thank you Otto. Booting from the OSX 10.5.4 install disk was one of the
first things I tried, but when it finally boots from the DVD all it
gives me is a black screen with a page of "DOS" type writing on it, not
the installation screen. I have never seen this before and have not
been able to get past it. My only thought is that maybe because the
hard drive has issues it is not allowing an installation to take place,
but this is new to me.
I plan on putting the new hard drive in the unit and seeing if I can
then boot with the install DVD later today. If I can, I will install the
operating system and use that installation to try to repair the old hard
drive, since I do not have another Mac in the shop right now.
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.net
509-891-5188
On 7/29/2012 3:46 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
> Have you booted the MBP from the Install DVD and run Disk Utility > Repair
> Disk?
>
> Assuming you have another Mac available, you boot the failing Mac in
> Target
> Disk Mode and connect it to the other Mac using FireWire or USB. The
> failing Mac becomes an external drive on the "good" one. You then run
> SD or
> CCC to clone the failing Mac's drive to an external drive. This is your
> best bet as you are only trying to read the failing drive, not running the
> OS and SD/CCC from it at the same time.
>
> You could also try running Disk Utility > Repair Disk in the same way if
> you don't have an OS X install DVD.
>
> Otto
>
> On 29 July 2012 02:55, Ardell Faul <ardell@icehouse.net
> <mailto:ardell%40icehouse.net>> wrote:
>
> > I have a little MacBook Pro here with a failing hard drive. It takes
> > about 15 minutes to boot up and is quite slow after that, but I can
> > still navigate around enough so that I was able to install SuperDuper.
> > I have tried twice so far to back up the drive with the hope of saving
> > all the data and making the new drive bootable, but SuperDuper gets
> > about half way done and fails.
> >
> > I am now running the hard drive utilities on it with the hope of
> > repairing it enough to give SD another try. If it still fails, I could
> > use some advice on cloning the existing drive in another computer as a
> > slave drive.
> >
> > I am way more familiar with Windows systems and Macs, but I am not sure
> > I can clone this drive in a Windows environment.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated, and I can take a small beating by you
> > Windows haters if I must. :)
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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first things I tried, but when it finally boots from the DVD all it
gives me is a black screen with a page of "DOS" type writing on it, not
the installation screen. I have never seen this before and have not
been able to get past it. My only thought is that maybe because the
hard drive has issues it is not allowing an installation to take place,
but this is new to me.
I plan on putting the new hard drive in the unit and seeing if I can
then boot with the install DVD later today. If I can, I will install the
operating system and use that installation to try to repair the old hard
drive, since I do not have another Mac in the shop right now.
Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.
509-891-5188
On 7/29/2012 3:46 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
> Have you booted the MBP from the Install DVD and run Disk Utility > Repair
> Disk?
>
> Assuming you have another Mac available, you boot the failing Mac in
> Target
> Disk Mode and connect it to the other Mac using FireWire or USB. The
> failing Mac becomes an external drive on the "good" one. You then run
> SD or
> CCC to clone the failing Mac's drive to an external drive. This is your
> best bet as you are only trying to read the failing drive, not running the
> OS and SD/CCC from it at the same time.
>
> You could also try running Disk Utility > Repair Disk in the same way if
> you don't have an OS X install DVD.
>
> Otto
>
> On 29 July 2012 02:55, Ardell Faul <ardell@icehouse.
> <mailto:ardell%
>
> > I have a little MacBook Pro here with a failing hard drive. It takes
> > about 15 minutes to boot up and is quite slow after that, but I can
> > still navigate around enough so that I was able to install SuperDuper.
> > I have tried twice so far to back up the drive with the hope of saving
> > all the data and making the new drive bootable, but SuperDuper gets
> > about half way done and fails.
> >
> > I am now running the hard drive utilities on it with the hope of
> > repairing it enough to give SD another try. If it still fails, I could
> > use some advice on cloning the existing drive in another computer as a
> > slave drive.
> >
> > I am way more familiar with Windows systems and Macs, but I am not sure
> > I can clone this drive in a Windows environment.
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated, and I can take a small beating by you
> > Windows haters if I must. :)
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Booting from the DVD means you're not using the internal hard-drive, so I
suspect the problem is elsewhere, either firmware or the main logic board.
Any luck with Target Mode (just keep the T key held down during startup)?
Otto
On 29 July 2012 19:32, Ardell Faul <ardell@icehouse.net > wrote:
> Thank you Otto. Booting from the OSX 10.5.4 install disk was one of the
> first things I tried, but when it finally boots from the DVD all it
> gives me is a black screen with a page of "DOS" type writing on it, not
> the installation screen. I have never seen this before and have not
> been able to get past it. My only thought is that maybe because the
> hard drive has issues it is not allowing an installation to take place,
> but this is new to me.
>
> I plan on putting the new hard drive in the unit and seeing if I can
> then boot with the install DVD later today. If I can, I will install the
> operating system and use that installation to try to repair the old hard
> drive, since I do not have another Mac in the shop right now.
>
>
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suspect the problem is elsewhere, either firmware or the main logic board.
Any luck with Target Mode (just keep the T key held down during startup)?
Otto
On 29 July 2012 19:32, Ardell Faul <ardell@icehouse.
> Thank you Otto. Booting from the OSX 10.5.4 install disk was one of the
> first things I tried, but when it finally boots from the DVD all it
> gives me is a black screen with a page of "DOS" type writing on it, not
> the installation screen. I have never seen this before and have not
> been able to get past it. My only thought is that maybe because the
> hard drive has issues it is not allowing an installation to take place,
> but this is new to me.
>
> I plan on putting the new hard drive in the unit and seeing if I can
> then boot with the install DVD later today. If I can, I will install the
> operating system and use that installation to try to repair the old hard
> drive, since I do not have another Mac in the shop right now.
>
>
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:30 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> Booting from the OSX 10.5.4 install disk was one of the first things I tried, but when it finally boots from the DVD all it gives me is a black screen with a page of "DOS" type writing on it, not the installation screen. I have never seen this before and have not been able to get past it. My only thought is that maybe because the hard drive has issues it is not allowing an installation to take place, but this is new to me.
If only the hard drive had issues, this method should fully and normally boot (albeit slowly, since it's from the DVD), and when you go to install the OS, it would tell you that it couldn't find a suitable destination drive.
>> I plan on putting the new hard drive in the unit and seeing if I can then boot with the install DVD later today. If I can, I will install the operating system and use that installation to try to repair the old hard drive, since I do not have another Mac in the shop right now.
>
> Booting from the DVD means you're not using the internal hard-drive, so I suspect the problem is elsewhere, either firmware or the main logic board.
> Any luck with Target Mode (just keep the T key held down during startup)?
> Otto
Two tricks for dealing with "upstream of the drive" problems:
1. Reset the PRAM (boot with <control><option><p><r> all held down.
2. Reset the SMC:
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US >
The problem may be so basic that these have no effect (e.g., sick logic board), but they certainly can't hurt.
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If only the hard drive had issues, this method should fully and normally boot (albeit slowly, since it's from the DVD), and when you go to install the OS, it would tell you that it couldn't find a suitable destination drive.
>> I plan on putting the new hard drive in the unit and seeing if I can then boot with the install DVD later today. If I can, I will install the operating system and use that installation to try to repair the old hard drive, since I do not have another Mac in the shop right now.
>
> Booting from the DVD means you're not using the internal hard-drive, so I suspect the problem is elsewhere, either firmware or the main logic board.
> Any luck with Target Mode (just keep the T key held down during startup)?
> Otto
Two tricks for dealing with "upstream of the drive" problems:
1. Reset the PRAM (boot with <control><option>
2. Reset the SMC:
<http://support.
The problem may be so basic that these have no effect (e.g., sick logic board), but they certainly can't hurt.
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