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Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> I hope RAM isn't hard to install. It's so TINY :)
<http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-Mac-mini-Model-A1176-RAM/1110/1 >
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"bobbystar" bobbystar
I basically converted to Apple products over the last few years. I had been using MS based machines since the days of MS DOS. I still have two reliable Windows machines that are in use for specific software and for serial and parrallel port devices.
My wife has been complaining about the slowness of her Compaq tower for a few years so today I bought her an inexpensive HP laptop. I was too cheap to get her a Mac. She is happy to have the new laptop but what a PIA compared to my MACs.
It will probably take days to get it set up properly and I now have to learn how to navigate Windows 7. I was surprised at how slow it is compared to my macs, I guess I got spoiled.
Now we can't print to out HP wireless printer since I tried to install hit in the new laptop. It knocked it off the loop.
I was shocked to discover how flimsy the laptop case is, the plastic is really thin. I think my ten year old Gateway will outlast this new one.
Sorry for the venting but I wanted to share my stupidity with the world.
Bobby
My wife has been complaining about the slowness of her Compaq tower for a few years so today I bought her an inexpensive HP laptop. I was too cheap to get her a Mac. She is happy to have the new laptop but what a PIA compared to my MACs.
It will probably take days to get it set up properly and I now have to learn how to navigate Windows 7. I was surprised at how slow it is compared to my macs, I guess I got spoiled.
Now we can't print to out HP wireless printer since I tried to install hit in the new laptop. It knocked it off the loop.
I was shocked to discover how flimsy the laptop case is, the plastic is really thin. I think my ten year old Gateway will outlast this new one.
Sorry for the venting but I wanted to share my stupidity with the world.
Bobby
Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Josephine Bacon" baconandeggs_2001
Yes, agreed, but in the past companies did not upgrade their OS in
such a way as to make older programs unusable. My Mac repairman warns
me that some of my programs will not be usable if I upgrade.
Josephine Bacon
On 11 Jul 2012, at 19:37, Earle Jones wrote:
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> On Jul 11, 12, at 8:41 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
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> > > I wanted to report that, along with many other Mac owners who
> will lose out massively if they upgrade to Snow Leopard or one of
> the silly names Apple has given to the latest version of their OS, I
> am getting Google messages that upgrades will no longer be supported
> because I am still using OS 10.5.8 Something to think about if you
> are buying an old machine.
> >
> > Since I don't remember losing much of anything when I upgraded to
> OS 10.6, I am curious what you expect to "lose out massively"?
> >
> > Operating systems, like species, adapt and change, or die out.
> Many of the ills people complain about in Windows can be traced to
> trying to maintain ongoing support of ancient and outdated versions,
> back to the dawn of time.
>
> *
> Old computers are like old dogs. A 12-year-old dog is old. A 12-year-
> old computer is old.
>
> Computer years are just about like dog years.
>
> I "inherited" a lap-top (titanium case) that must have dated back to
> about 2000. It runs—I was able to update the OS to about 10.2
> (Cheetah, I think.) It will run Sys 9.1.
>
> But what is it good for? The titanium case is novel. This thing is
> probably worth more as an antique. Interestingly, the battery is
> removable from the bottom of the case. Amazing!
>
> In dog years, I am now 972.
>
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such a way as to make older programs unusable. My Mac repairman warns
me that some of my programs will not be usable if I upgrade.
Josephine Bacon
On 11 Jul 2012, at 19:37, Earle Jones wrote:
>
> On Jul 11, 12, at 8:41 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
> > > I wanted to report that, along with many other Mac owners who
> will lose out massively if they upgrade to Snow Leopard or one of
> the silly names Apple has given to the latest version of their OS, I
> am getting Google messages that upgrades will no longer be supported
> because I am still using OS 10.5.8 Something to think about if you
> are buying an old machine.
> >
> > Since I don't remember losing much of anything when I upgraded to
> OS 10.6, I am curious what you expect to "lose out massively"?
> >
> > Operating systems, like species, adapt and change, or die out.
> Many of the ills people complain about in Windows can be traced to
> trying to maintain ongoing support of ancient and outdated versions,
> back to the dawn of time.
>
> *
> Old computers are like old dogs. A 12-year-old dog is old. A 12-year-
> old computer is old.
>
> Computer years are just about like dog years.
>
> I "inherited" a lap-top (titanium case) that must have dated back to
> about 2000. It runs—I was able to update the OS to about 10.2
> (Cheetah, I think.) It will run Sys 9.1.
>
> But what is it good for? The titanium case is novel. This thing is
> probably worth more as an antique. Interestingly, the battery is
> removable from the bottom of the case. Amazing!
>
> In dog years, I am now 972.
>
> earle
> *
> ____________
> Earle Jones
> 501 Portola Road #8008
> Portola Valley CA 94028
> Home: 650-424-4362
> Cell: 650-269-0035
> earle.jones@
>
>
Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations Limited
179 Kings Cross Road
London WC1x 9BZ
Tel:+44 207 833 0607
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Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen
agreed.
i'm going to hang on to SL until i buy a new machine, probably a Mac Pro in 2-3 years, i hope, then i am going to customize it to my hearts content.
that will probably be my last new computer.
doug
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On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> Yes, agreed, but in the past companies did not upgrade their OS in
> such a way as to make older programs unusable. My Mac repairman warns
> me that some of my programs will not be usable if I upgrade.
>
> Josephine Bacon
> On 11 Jul 2012, at 19:37, Earle Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 11, 12, at 8:41 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>
>>>> I wanted to report that, along with many other Mac owners who
>> will lose out massively if they upgrade to Snow Leopard or one of
>> the silly names Apple has given to the latest version of their OS, I
>> am getting Google messages that upgrades will no longer be supported
>> because I am still using OS 10.5.8 Something to think about if you
>> are buying an old machine.
>>>
>>> Since I don't remember losing much of anything when I upgraded to
>> OS 10.6, I am curious what you expect to "lose out massively"?
>>>
>>> Operating systems, like species, adapt and change, or die out.
>> Many of the ills people complain about in Windows can be traced to
>> trying to maintain ongoing support of ancient and outdated versions,
>> back to the dawn of time.
>>
>> *
>> Old computers are like old dogs. A 12-year-old dog is old. A 12-year-
>> old computer is old.
>>
>> Computer years are just about like dog years.
>>
>> I "inherited" a lap-top (titanium case) that must have dated back to
>> about 2000. It runs—I was able to update the OS to about 10.2
>> (Cheetah, I think.) It will run Sys 9.1.
>>
>> But what is it good for? The titanium case is novel. This thing is
>> probably worth more as an antique. Interestingly, the battery is
>> removable from the bottom of the case. Amazing!
>>
>> In dog years, I am now 972.
>>
>> earle
>> *
>> _______________________
>> Earle Jones
>> 501 Portola Road #8008
>> Portola Valley CA 94028
>> Home: 650-424-4362
>> Cell: 650-269-0035
>> earle.jones@comcast.net
>>
>>
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i'm going to hang on to SL until i buy a new machine, probably a Mac Pro in 2-3 years, i hope, then i am going to customize it to my hearts content.
that will probably be my last new computer.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlin
http://www.flickr.
http://www.postmode
On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> Yes, agreed, but in the past companies did not upgrade their OS in
> such a way as to make older programs unusable. My Mac repairman warns
> me that some of my programs will not be usable if I upgrade.
>
> Josephine Bacon
> On 11 Jul 2012, at 19:37, Earle Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 11, 12, at 8:41 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>
>>>> I wanted to report that, along with many other Mac owners who
>> will lose out massively if they upgrade to Snow Leopard or one of
>> the silly names Apple has given to the latest version of their OS, I
>> am getting Google messages that upgrades will no longer be supported
>> because I am still using OS 10.5.8 Something to think about if you
>> are buying an old machine.
>>>
>>> Since I don't remember losing much of anything when I upgraded to
>> OS 10.6, I am curious what you expect to "lose out massively"?
>>>
>>> Operating systems, like species, adapt and change, or die out.
>> Many of the ills people complain about in Windows can be traced to
>> trying to maintain ongoing support of ancient and outdated versions,
>> back to the dawn of time.
>>
>> *
>> Old computers are like old dogs. A 12-year-old dog is old. A 12-year-
>> old computer is old.
>>
>> Computer years are just about like dog years.
>>
>> I "inherited" a lap-top (titanium case) that must have dated back to
>> about 2000. It runs—I was able to update the OS to about 10.2
>> (Cheetah, I think.) It will run Sys 9.1.
>>
>> But what is it good for? The titanium case is novel. This thing is
>> probably worth more as an antique. Interestingly, the battery is
>> removable from the bottom of the case. Amazing!
>>
>> In dog years, I am now 972.
>>
>> earle
>> *
>> ____________
>> Earle Jones
>> 501 Portola Road #8008
>> Portola Valley CA 94028
>> Home: 650-424-4362
>> Cell: 650-269-0035
>> earle.jones@
>>
>>
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Josephine Bacon wrote:
> Yes, agreed, but in the past companies did not upgrade their OS in
> such a way as to make older programs unusable. My Mac repairman warns
> me that some of my programs will not be usable if I upgrade.
If you are talking about upgrading to Snow Leopard, I can't recall any applications you would lose. Can your repairman specify what he thinks you would lose? (Now, if you upgrade to Lion, you definitely WILL lose the use of applications.
Daly
Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:14 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"caribsea@bellsouth.net" caribsea@bellsouth.net
I there one? A search hasn't found one.
Willi
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bob Cook" cookrd1
Have you tried one of the "Flash" browsers? Let me know the site and I
will try for you. I really miss Flash, no reason why current iDevices
can't run it. Flash runs fine on my Android phones/tablets.
Bob
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will try for you. I really miss Flash, no reason why current iDevices
can't run it. Flash runs fine on my Android phones/tablets.
Bob
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Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:29 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Robert" cookrd1
Late 2008 MBP 5,1
Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to new 240GB SSD.
Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and it booted up fine.
Next, replaced old HD with SSD
Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
Reset PRAM
Same thing
Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
IDEAS?
Bob
Using an external SATA-USB adapter....
First, I formatted the SSD as OS X journaled
Second, using CCC, I cloned Lion 150GB partition on old hard drive to new 240GB SSD.
Third, with the old HD in the computer and new SSD hooked up via USB, I restarted MBP, held down the option key, selected the SSD to boot from and it booted up fine.
Next, replaced old HD with SSD
Booted MBP with the SSD in it.
Got the dreaded gray folder with the ?, flashing
Unplugged SSD and plugged in again
Reset PRAM
Same thing
Shut down and restart, hold down Option key, just get a blank screen.
IDEAS?
Bob
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