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Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:02 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"LouisD" ldina
Les,
I can't answer your specific question about CCC, but I can provide some supplementary info to my last email.
The reason I contacted Shirt Pocket was because I noticed that my cloned backup did NOT have the same exact settings when I booted from it. This bothered me because I expected an EXACT duplicate and I want to make SURE I have rock-solid backups. I suspect having some Apps and start-up items open was partially or completely responsible. I do know that SuperDuper's backup scripts don't copy certain cache and other temporary files, which one can see if they check the log after a backup.
David Nanian (Shirt Pocket) told me that "most" programs will not cause a problem if left open during a backup, but apparently some can. David is extremely "succinct" in his communications, so you have to read between the lines. The man doesn't waste words, that's for sure. So, I take the safest route I can. Having had crashes on PCs before, and having had to reconstruct a mess over weeks, I am ultra cautious and conscientious when it comes to backups. I have at least 3 backups of my boot drive and my data drive. Overkill perhaps, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Les Streater <lesstreater@...> wrote:
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> On 14 Jul 2012, at 16:52, LouisD wrote:
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> "Although it's not strictly necessary, it's usually a good practice to quit all running applications before performing a backup. Since there are some that aren't visible, like the Microsoft Office Database Daemon, it's easiest to log out of your account, and then log back in with the Shift key held down. This will prevent your startup items from running, and helps to ensure that your personal data doesn't change during the backup."
> ===================================
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>
> Is this also true of CCC? Does anyone know what the differences might be?
>
> Les Streater
> www.lesstreater.com
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I can't answer your specific question about CCC, but I can provide some supplementary info to my last email.
The reason I contacted Shirt Pocket was because I noticed that my cloned backup did NOT have the same exact settings when I booted from it. This bothered me because I expected an EXACT duplicate and I want to make SURE I have rock-solid backups. I suspect having some Apps and start-up items open was partially or completely responsible. I do know that SuperDuper's backup scripts don't copy certain cache and other temporary files, which one can see if they check the log after a backup.
David Nanian (Shirt Pocket) told me that "most" programs will not cause a problem if left open during a backup, but apparently some can. David is extremely "succinct" in his communications, so you have to read between the lines. The man doesn't waste words, that's for sure. So, I take the safest route I can. Having had crashes on PCs before, and having had to reconstruct a mess over weeks, I am ultra cautious and conscientious when it comes to backups. I have at least 3 backups of my boot drive and my data drive. Overkill perhaps, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Lou
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>
> On 14 Jul 2012, at 16:52, LouisD wrote:
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> ============
> "Although it's not strictly necessary, it's usually a good practice to quit all running applications before performing a backup. Since there are some that aren't visible, like the Microsoft Office Database Daemon, it's easiest to log out of your account, and then log back in with the Shift key held down. This will prevent your startup items from running, and helps to ensure that your personal data doesn't change during the backup."
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> Is this also true of CCC? Does anyone know what the differences might be?
>
> Les Streater
> www.lesstreater.
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> All this talk about clones has me wondering…does anyone know of a good way to run two cloning operations simultaneously?
Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it.
> I have the 500GB spinning drive that came with my MBP, plus a 240GB SSD I added a couple of months ago. I clone them regularly to two partitions on an external 1TB FireWire drive (which then gets backed up elsewhere) but I currently clone one drive and then the other. It sure would be nice to be able to do them at the same time.
If your destinations were 2 separate backup *drives* (as opposed to 2 separate backup *partitions* on the SAME drive), I could recommend using CCC to make one clone while using SD! to make the other.
But since both cloning operations will be going to the same destination drive -- using the same drive write-heads -- then on the one hand you would be "thrashing" that destination drive extremely hard, driving the heads back and forth probably hundreds of times every minute between the 2 partitions, shortening the life of the destination drive mechanism, and on the other hand, it wouldn't be significantly faster than sequential backups, since the destination is a *single* drive with it's associated write-speed limitations.
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Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it.
> I have the 500GB spinning drive that came with my MBP, plus a 240GB SSD I added a couple of months ago. I clone them regularly to two partitions on an external 1TB FireWire drive (which then gets backed up elsewhere) but I currently clone one drive and then the other. It sure would be nice to be able to do them at the same time.
If your destinations were 2 separate backup *drives* (as opposed to 2 separate backup *partitions* on the SAME drive), I could recommend using CCC to make one clone while using SD! to make the other.
But since both cloning operations will be going to the same destination drive -- using the same drive write-heads -- then on the one hand you would be "thrashing" that destination drive extremely hard, driving the heads back and forth probably hundreds of times every minute between the 2 partitions, shortening the life of the destination drive mechanism, and on the other hand, it wouldn't be significantly faster than sequential backups, since the destination is a *single* drive with it's associated write-speed limitations.
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:05 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"LouisD" ldina
Keith,
Check System Preferences > Speech > Speech Recognition. Try turning off the "Speakable Items" option. Not sure if this is it or not, but I know you can tailor the settings in the speech tab for different voices, etc.
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Keith" <keith_w@...> wrote:
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> I use an iMac with OS 10.7.4, SeaMonkey 2.10.1 and DSL Extreme webmail.
>
> This talking after spelling and other errors has just started, perhaps two days ago. It may have accompanied an automatic update of one of my applications.
> The voice is female and what with my impaired hearing I don't understand some of the words spoken.
> I wonder who has a clue as to what program is responsible for this and how to perhaps even shut to off!
>
> Thanks ahead of time,
> keith whaley
>
Check System Preferences > Speech > Speech Recognition. Try turning off the "Speakable Items" option. Not sure if this is it or not, but I know you can tailor the settings in the speech tab for different voices, etc.
Lou
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> I use an iMac with OS 10.7.4, SeaMonkey 2.10.1 and DSL Extreme webmail.
>
> This talking after spelling and other errors has just started, perhaps two days ago. It may have accompanied an automatic update of one of my applications.
> The voice is female and what with my impaired hearing I don't understand some of the words spoken.
> I wonder who has a clue as to what program is responsible for this and how to perhaps even shut to off!
>
> Thanks ahead of time,
> keith whaley
>
Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:24 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"keith_w @dslextreme.com" keith9600
Thanks for the thought. It wasn't that.
The System voice is male, "Alex", and recognizable as a machine-generated
voice. Quite clear. This female voice is not. I'll keep looking.
Thanks... keith
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM, LouisD <lou@loudina.com > wrote:
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>
>
> Keith,
>
> Check System Preferences > Speech > Speech Recognition. Try turning off
> the "Speakable Items" option. Not sure if this is it or not, but I know you
> can tailor the settings in the speech tab for different voices, etc.
>
> Lou
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Keith" <keith_w@...> wrote:
> >
> > I use an iMac with OS 10.7.4, SeaMonkey 2.10.1 and DSL Extreme webmail.
> >
> > This talking after spelling and other errors has just started, perhaps
> two days ago. It may have accompanied an automatic update of one of my
> applications.
> > The voice is female and what with my impaired hearing I don't understand
> some of the words spoken.
> > I wonder who has a clue as to what program is responsible for this and
> how to perhaps even shut to off!
> >
> > Thanks ahead of time,
> > keith whaley
> >
>
>
>
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The System voice is male, "Alex", and recognizable as a machine-generated
voice. Quite clear. This female voice is not. I'll keep looking.
Thanks... keith
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM, LouisD <lou@loudina.
> **
>
>
> Keith,
>
> Check System Preferences > Speech > Speech Recognition. Try turning off
> the "Speakable Items" option. Not sure if this is it or not, but I know you
> can tailor the settings in the speech tab for different voices, etc.
>
> Lou
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@
> >
> > I use an iMac with OS 10.7.4, SeaMonkey 2.10.1 and DSL Extreme webmail.
> >
> > This talking after spelling and other errors has just started, perhaps
> two days ago. It may have accompanied an automatic update of one of my
> applications.
> > The voice is female and what with my impaired hearing I don't understand
> some of the words spoken.
> > I wonder who has a clue as to what program is responsible for this and
> how to perhaps even shut to off!
> >
> > Thanks ahead of time,
> > keith whaley
> >
>
>
>
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:07 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Pete Nalda" lpnalda
Keith, check your universal access settings under system preference. It almost sounds like a VoiceOver function is turned on.
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 11:42 AM, "Keith" <keith_w@dslextreme.com > wrote:
> I use an iMac with OS 10.7.4, SeaMonkey 2.10.1 and DSL Extreme webmail.
>
> This talking after spelling and other errors has just started, perhaps two days ago. It may have accompanied an automatic update of one of my applications.
> The voice is female and what with my impaired hearing I don't understand some of the words spoken.
> I wonder who has a clue as to what program is responsible for this and how to perhaps even shut to off!
>
> Thanks ahead of time,
> keith whaley
>
>
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 11:42 AM, "Keith" <keith_w@dslextreme.
> I use an iMac with OS 10.7.4, SeaMonkey 2.10.1 and DSL Extreme webmail.
>
> This talking after spelling and other errors has just started, perhaps two days ago. It may have accompanied an automatic update of one of my applications.
> The voice is female and what with my impaired hearing I don't understand some of the words spoken.
> I wonder who has a clue as to what program is responsible for this and how to perhaps even shut to off!
>
> Thanks ahead of time,
> keith whaley
>
>
>
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"keith_w @dslextreme.com" keith9600
That isn't it, Pete.
VoiceOver is unclicked.
So far, no luck. But thanks for the attempt!
keith
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Pete Nalda <lpnalda@gmail.com > wrote:
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> Keith, check your universal access settings under system preference. It
> almost sounds like a VoiceOver function is turned on.
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> Louie P. (Pete) Nalda
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VoiceOver is unclicked.
So far, no luck. But thanks for the attempt!
keith
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Pete Nalda <lpnalda@gmail.
> **
>
>
> Keith, check your universal access settings under system preference. It
> almost sounds like a VoiceOver function is turned on.
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> Louie P. (Pete) Nalda
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:18 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"paul smith" waldonny
People who complain about constant warnings may not understand how to use Little Snitch properly.
When a warning comes up, you are offered the option to allow or deny the specific connection on a one-time basis ("until quit") or forever. Once you know that a connection is legit, you approve it forever and the warning never reappears.
And note that the built-in firewall mainly handles *incoming* traffic, while Little Snitch handles *outgoing* traffic. And LS also allows you to specify which IP addresses and/or domain names an application can connect with. So you can see whether an app requesting update access is actually connecting to the website of its developer.
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 7:30 AM, bob morin wrote:
> I have little snitch but have turned it off. Terribly annoying. constantly giving you warnings.
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When a warning comes up, you are offered the option to allow or deny the specific connection on a one-time basis ("until quit") or forever. Once you know that a connection is legit, you approve it forever and the warning never reappears.
And note that the built-in firewall mainly handles *incoming* traffic, while Little Snitch handles *outgoing* traffic. And LS also allows you to specify which IP addresses and/or domain names an application can connect with. So you can see whether an app requesting update access is actually connecting to the website of its developer.
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MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.4 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.1.1
On Jul 14, 2012, at 7:30 AM, bob morin wrote:
> I have little snitch but have turned it off. Terribly annoying. constantly giving you warnings.
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Outgoing, yes, fascinating. And interesting. At least I continue to find it so. :) jr
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , paul smith <kullervo@...> wrote:
>
> People who complain about constant warnings may not understand how to use Little Snitch properly.
> When a warning comes up, you are offered the option to allow or deny the specific connection on a one-time basis ("until quit") or forever. Once you know that a connection is legit, you approve it forever and the warning never reappears.
> And note that the built-in firewall mainly handles *incoming* traffic, while Little Snitch handles *outgoing* traffic. And LS also allows you to specify which IP addresses and/or domain names an application can connect with. So you can see whether an app requesting update access is actually connecting to the website of its developer.
> --
> PSmith
> MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.4 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.1.1
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> On Jul 14, 2012, at 7:30 AM, bob morin wrote:
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> > I have little snitch but have turned it off. Terribly annoying. constantly giving you warnings.
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--- In macsupportcentral@
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> People who complain about constant warnings may not understand how to use Little Snitch properly.
> When a warning comes up, you are offered the option to allow or deny the specific connection on a one-time basis ("until quit") or forever. Once you know that a connection is legit, you approve it forever and the warning never reappears.
> And note that the built-in firewall mainly handles *incoming* traffic, while Little Snitch handles *outgoing* traffic. And LS also allows you to specify which IP addresses and/or domain names an application can connect with. So you can see whether an app requesting update access is actually connecting to the website of its developer.
> --
> PSmith
> MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.4 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.1.1
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> On Jul 14, 2012, at 7:30 AM, bob morin wrote:
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> > I have little snitch but have turned it off. Terribly annoying. constantly giving you warnings.
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Rob Frankel" robfrankeldotcom
FYI, I was fed up with Quicken 2007 as well. Switched to Essentials
because I thought I might upgrade to Lion, which didn't support
Quicken 2007.
Since then, Intuit has released Quicken 2007s that lets you do
everything Quicken has always done, even converting Essentials files
back to Quicken 2007s. I'm happy.
At 9:54 AM +0000 7/14/12, macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com wrote thusly:
>
>4a. Quicken
> Posted by: "cnltnn" cnltnn@yahoo.com cnltnn
> Date: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:06 pm ((PDT))
>
>After some research, downloading my old Quicken 2005 to my 'new' Mac
>Mini seems like a bad idea. After more research, buying Quicken 2007
>seems like a bad idea.
>
>What "Personal Finance" type application on Mac is everyone using these days?
>
>Thanks,
>Carrie
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because I thought I might upgrade to Lion, which didn't support
Quicken 2007.
Since then, Intuit has released Quicken 2007s that lets you do
everything Quicken has always done, even converting Essentials files
back to Quicken 2007s. I'm happy.
At 9:54 AM +0000 7/14/12, macsupportcentral@
>
>4a. Quicken
> Posted by: "cnltnn" cnltnn@yahoo.
> Date: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:06 pm ((PDT))
>
>After some research, downloading my old Quicken 2005 to my 'new' Mac
>Mini seems like a bad idea. After more research, buying Quicken 2007
>seems like a bad idea.
>
>What "Personal Finance" type application on Mac is everyone using these days?
>
>Thanks,
>Carrie
--
Rob Frankel
Branding Expert http://www.RobFrank
Twitter: @brandingexpert
AIM/Skype: ROBFRANKEL ICQ: 249862730
1-888-ROBFRANKEL * 818-990-8623 * E-Fax 413-778-0909
Yes, there's an RSS feed blog, if you can handle it:
http://www.robfrank
Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:56 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000
One thing about Time Machine, you don't know you've got it until you need it. THEN it's the most wonderful thing on your computer. I've only had to use it two or three times since it came out. It totally wonderful when something goes wrong with a report or document and you can just use Time Machine and just get a copy from a week or two ago. Talk about life insurance!
Terry
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Carol McKee <carolwm@netins.net > wrote:
> Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
> Date: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:13 pm ((PDT))
>
>> Someone mentioned Time Machine. I tried that once but it wasn't clear what it was backing up, so I have been doing backups "by hand."
>
>
> It backs up *everything*, essentially.
>
> All your hard drive, initially, excepting what you have specifically excluded.
> Then, every hour, only what has changed during that hour.
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> I run Time Machine backups continually, and keep 2 bootable clone backups as well.
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> How do you make a bootable clone on Snow Leopard?
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Carol McKee <carolwm@netins.
> Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
> Date: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:13 pm ((PDT))
>
>> Someone mentioned Time Machine. I tried that once but it wasn't clear what it was backing up, so I have been doing backups "by hand."
>
>
> It backs up *everything*
>
> All your hard drive, initially, excepting what you have specifically excluded.
> Then, every hour, only what has changed during that hour.
>
> I run Time Machine backups continually, and keep 2 bootable clone backups as well.
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> How do you make a bootable clone on Snow Leopard?
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
At 11:59 PM -0500 7/13/12, Carol McKee wrote:
>How do you make a bootable clone on Snow Leopard?
Two good programs are Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) and SuperDuper. CCC is
free, although a donation is requested. SuperDuper is also free, but
to get all the features you have to pay for it. However, it does have
more features than does CCC, but do you need them? I've never used
SuperDuper, but really do like CCC.
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>How do you make a bootable clone on Snow Leopard?
Two good programs are Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) and SuperDuper. CCC is
free, although a donation is requested. SuperDuper is also free, but
to get all the features you have to pay for it. However, it does have
more features than does CCC, but do you need them? I've never used
SuperDuper, but really do like CCC.
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Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"John Masters" joemastersk
On 14 Jul 2012, at 20:31, Barry Austern wrote:
> At 11:59 PM -0500 7/13/12, Carol McKee wrote:
>
> >How do you make a bootable clone on Snow Leopard?
>
> Two good programs are Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) and SuperDuper. CCC is
> free, although a donation is requested. SuperDuper is also free, but
> to get all the features you have to pay for it. However, it does have
> more features than does CCC, but do you need them? I've never used
> SuperDuper, but really do like CCC.
>
>
>
When I first got a Mac about five years ago one of the first things I did was purchase SuperDuper. I was somewhat unsure about how to do something so I emailed support. The answer I received was extremely sarcastic in tone and basically said "if you're too stupid to figure it out then tough". I then got Carbon Copy Cloner which worked fine, paid for it and have been very happy ever since.
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Barry Austern" barryaus
At 8:45 PM +0100 7/14/12, John Masters wrote:
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>On 14 Jul 2012, at 20:31, Barry Austern wrote:
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>> At 11:59 PM -0500 7/13/12, Carol McKee wrote:
>>
> > >How do you make a bootable clone on Snow Leopard?
snip
>When I first got a Mac about five years ago one of the first things
>I did was purchase SuperDuper. I was somewhat unsure about how to do
>something so I emailed support. The answer I received was extremely
>sarcastic in tone and basically said "if you're too stupid to figure
>it out then tough". I then got Carbon Copy Cloner which worked fine,
>paid for it and have been very happy ever since.
I myself have never gone to their forums (fora??) but I've heard MANY
good things about the forums that support CCC.
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barryaus@fuse.net
>
>
>
>On 14 Jul 2012, at 20:31, Barry Austern wrote:
>
>> At 11:59 PM -0500 7/13/12, Carol McKee wrote:
>>
> > >How do you make a bootable clone on Snow Leopard?
snip
>When I first got a Mac about five years ago one of the first things
>I did was purchase SuperDuper. I was somewhat unsure about how to do
>something so I emailed support. The answer I received was extremely
>sarcastic in tone and basically said "if you're too stupid to figure
>it out then tough". I then got Carbon Copy Cloner which worked fine,
>paid for it and have been very happy ever since.
I myself have never gone to their forums (fora??) but I've heard MANY
good things about the forums that support CCC.
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Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.
Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:14 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> They're probably equally good; I prefer the interface of SuperDuper!
>
> I agree, but you can trial the full version of CCC for free whereas you can't with SD, IOW you can run CCC as long as you like, and then donate when you're happy with it.
On the other hand, Otto, you can use a limited version of SD! for free, forever:
> Download Now!
> You can download SuperDuper! v2.6.4 right now and back up and clone your drives for free — forever!
>
> Buy Now!
> Buy now to unlock scheduling, Smart Update (which saves a lot of time), Sandboxes, scripting and more!
>
> You can register right from the application, or simply click to buy it now for $27.95.
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>
> I agree, but you can trial the full version of CCC for free whereas you can't with SD, IOW you can run CCC as long as you like, and then donate when you're happy with it.
On the other hand, Otto, you can use a limited version of SD! for free, forever:
> Download Now!
> You can download SuperDuper! v2.6.4 right now and back up and clone your drives for free — forever!
>
> Buy Now!
> Buy now to unlock scheduling, Smart Update (which saves a lot of time), Sandboxes, scripting and more!
>
> You can register right from the application, or simply click to buy it now for $27.95.
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> I've never used SuperDuper, but really do like CCC.
>
> When I first got a Mac about five years ago one of the first things I did was purchase SuperDuper. I was somewhat unsure about how to do something so I emailed support. The answer I received was extremely sarcastic in tone and basically said "if you're too stupid to figure it out then tough". I then got Carbon Copy Cloner which worked fine, paid for it and have been very happy ever since.
On the other hand, I've had a few occasions to write to the author of SD! for problem resolution (special-case situations), and not only has he been extremely forthcoming and helpful, the typical turn-around time from my sending a question to my receiving a definitive answer has been about 30 minutes.
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> When I first got a Mac about five years ago one of the first things I did was purchase SuperDuper. I was somewhat unsure about how to do something so I emailed support. The answer I received was extremely sarcastic in tone and basically said "if you're too stupid to figure it out then tough". I then got Carbon Copy Cloner which worked fine, paid for it and have been very happy ever since.
On the other hand, I've had a few occasions to write to the author of SD! for problem resolution (special-case situations), and not only has he been extremely forthcoming and helpful, the typical turn-around time from my sending a question to my receiving a definitive answer has been about 30 minutes.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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