7/23/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9017

Mac Support Central

15 New Messages

Digest #9017
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Re: How to use my SuperDuper! clone by "James Robertson" jamesrob328i
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Re: How to use my SuperDuper! clone by "Dane Robison" macdane1
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Question about Mac Mail 5.3 by "Madolyn Rogas" sweetmaxine5
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Re: Question about Mac Mail 5.3 by "Barry Austern" barryaus
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Mac Book Air - no SD card slot? by "Michael Moloney" moloney_mj
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Re: Mac Book Air - no SD card slot? by "Christopher Collins" cjc1959au
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Re: Mac Book Air - no SD card slot? by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: Mac Book Air - no SD card slot? by "Barry Austern" barryaus
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Re: Mac Book Air - no SD card slot? by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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Re: Mac Book Air - no SD card slot? by "Michael Moloney" moloney_mj
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Re: Mac Book Air - no SD card slot? by "Christopher Collins" cjc1959au
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Migrating Mail and Calendars by "mpstupinski@snet.net" mstupinski
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Re: Migrating Mail and Calendars by "Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski

Messages

Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"ldina" ldina

Jim,

I've been busy doing similar things lately, also using SuperDuper. David Nanian (the guy who wrote SuperDuper) and I traded a number of emails on this subject. He suggests in his Help that it is wise to logout, then log back in while holding down the Shift Key. This prevents startup items from loading. David told me that "most" programs don't create any problem for SuperDuper, but there are a few that can cause your cloned backup to be a little bit different. That is what triggered my email to David in the first place...I noticed that my settings were different when booting from a freshly cloned drive. Apparently, that is why.

So, every evening before I go to bed, I logout, then log back in while holding the Shift Key. I have SuperDuper backups scheduled for 4 different backups every night at about 1:00AM. I check frequently to be sure the backups are working properly and they are. BTW, SuperDuper ignores certain temp and var files, which is part of their smart backup script, and that is as it should be.

When I get up in the morning, I logout and log back in again, but since I am ready to work, I let it start normally (without holding down the Shift Key).

I don't use Time Machine at all and have it turned off completely. I haven't had the courage to set up iCloud yet. So many things Apple are lacking in explanation and transparency, and I hate it when things happen without my knowing what is doing what to whom. With SuperDuper, I know what's happening, which I like.

I am backing up to both an internal drive in my Mac Pro, plus an external FW800 box with two backup drives. When I boot off a clone, it boots fresh, just like starting up your Mac when it's been off.

Hope that is some help.

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, James Robertson <jamesrob@...> wrote:
>
> I've been cloning the boot drives of both my Macs (Mac Pro and MacBook Pro) to separate drives (internal on the Mac Pro, external FW800 on the MacBook Pro) for quite some time, and I've only needed to use one of them once. However, I realized recently from discussions here that I'm ignorant of some very basic possible complications of using them.
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> Lion reopens all the applications I had running just before I rebooted. I don't have any consistent policy regarding what I leave running when I walk away from my machines (the cloning operations run in the middle of the night).
>
> If I boot from one of the clones, will it talk to my Time Machine backup as if it were the usual boot drive? The clones have a different name in the Finder (startup drive's name with "Boot Clone" appended). I assume that would be a "really bad thing" if it happened.
>
> Will the apps that were open on the main boot drives at the time that the clone was last updated launch if I boot from the clone(s)? Will that screw up time-based things like my IMAP mail database or maintaining order in my iCloud-based calendars?
>
> I want to make certain that I have "final" clone boot volumes at the ready when I update from Lion to Mountain Lion, and there are these wrinkles that I've not considered before.
>
> Thanks for any answers, and for suggestions how to avoid the pitfalls if they do exist.
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
>
> Mac Pro (Early 2008, Dual 2.8 Quad Core Xeons, 6 GB RAM
> OS X 10.7.4)
> MacBook Pro (15 inch Early 2011, 2 Ghz Quad Core i7, 8 GB RAM
> OS X 10.7.4)
> iPad2 (16 GB ATT
> iOS 5.1.1)
> iPhone 4s (16 GB ATT
> iOS 5.1.1)
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Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"James Robertson" jamesrob328i


On Jul 22, 2012, at 9:10 AM, ldina wrote:

> Hope that is some help.

Well, I think you've provided me with a way to make certain that my clones are created in a manner that prevents things from loading that might confuse the organization that's ordinarily accessible to my boot drive from other devices (such as my Time Machine backups, my IMAP email databases, and my iCloud calendar/contacts data. However, I'm still in the dark about what happens if I don't log out and log back in without Startup items loading before the clone operation runs.

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Jim Robertson
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Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:26 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dane Robison" macdane1

On Jul 22, 2012, at 12:10 PM, ldina wrote:

> I don't use Time Machine at all and have it turned off completely. I haven't had the courage to set up iCloud yet. So many things Apple are lacking in explanation and transparency, and I hate it when things happen without my knowing what is doing what to whom. With SuperDuper, I know what's happening, which I like.

Off topic, Lou, but I just want to encourage you to stay away from Time Machine. As a Lightroom user, I'm quite sure you won't be satisfied with it, since the LR catalog becomes such a hassle. It's such a large file and changes so often that you end up either having to put up with Time Machine running constantly or tell it to ignore the LR catalog, which means you need an alternative backup plan for that anyway.

Just FWIW…

Dane

Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Madolyn Rogas" sweetmaxine5

I recently bought a MacBook Pro and used time machine to move files and apps from the old Mac Book to the new one. I can't send mail from Safari, using "File>Mail link to this page" and I was able to do it on the old computer. I had Google Chrome on the MacBook Pro (as well as the old Mac Book), and when I would use the "File>mail link to this page", my google mail would come up in Google Chrome. I wanted it to launch the mail program as it always did in the past. I removed Google Chrome and now if I want to send an email from Safari, I get the following error message:

An email message can't be created to send the link because Safari can't find an email application. You can use the mail app included with Mac OS X to send email. To do so, you might need to install mail using the Mac OS X install discs.

I don't have any Mac install discs with this new laptop. I'm stuck here as I don't want to have Google Chrome gmail to launch when I want to send an email with a link from Safari.

Thanks.

Maddie
=============
I might be old but I got to see all the cool bands.

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Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus

At 2:41 PM -0500 7/22/12, Madolyn Rogas wrote:

>
>
>I recently bought a MacBook Pro and used time machine to move files
>and apps from the old Mac Book to the new one. I can't send mail
>from Safari, using "File>Mail link to this page" and I was able to
>do it on the old computer. I had Google Chrome on the MacBook Pro
>(as well as the old Mac Book), and when I would use the "File>mail
>link to this page", my google mail would come up in Google Chrome. I
>wanted it to launch the mail program as it always did in the past. I
>removed Google Chrome and now if I want to send an email from
>Safari, I get the following error message:
>
>An email message can't be created to send the link because Safari
>can't find an email application. You can use the mail app included
>with Mac OS X to send email. To do so, you might need to install
>mail using the Mac OS X install discs.

Do you have Mail activated? It or any preferred Email client is
"done" by the preferences in Mail. For example, I use Eudora, so my
preferences in Mail say that Eudora is my preferred Email client. Go
to Mail's preferences and choose your preferred client. Similarly,
your default browser, regardless of the one you like, is declared in
Safari's preferences.

--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael Moloney" moloney_mj

Hello.

I am currently looking at getting the 11" Mac Book Air but then upon reading the specifications I noticed it does not have an SD Card slot. What are my options for loading photos if I did buy this version?

Thanks.

Michael Moloney
moloney.icloud@gmail.com

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Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Christopher Collins" cjc1959au

USB <-> SD Card Reader?

cjc

On 23/07/2012, at 8:48 AM, Michael Moloney wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I am currently looking at getting the 11" Mac Book Air but then upon reading the specifications I noticed it does not have an SD Card slot. What are my options for loading photos if I did buy this version?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michael Moloney
> moloney.icloud@gmail.com
>
> [

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Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:15 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

1. You connect the camera via USB. I think all digital cameras come with
this ability, and usually with the cable too.
2. You buy a USB card reader, and put the camera's card in it. These are
inexpensive, fast, and also cater for multiple card types.
3. You buy an "Eye-Fi" SD card with built-in Wi-Fi. Expensive IMO but the
ultimate in convenience.

Many digital camera users have managed without an SD card slot in their
computers for many years. :)

Otto

On 22 July 2012 23:48, Michael Moloney <moloney.icloud@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I am currently looking at getting the 11" Mac Book Air but then upon
> reading the specifications I noticed it does not have an SD Card slot.
> What are my options for loading photos if I did buy this version?
>

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Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:23 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus

At 8:48 AM +1000 7/23/12, Michael Moloney wrote:

>
>
>Hello.
>
>I am currently looking at getting the 11" Mac Book Air but then upon
>reading the specifications I noticed it does not have an SD Card
>slot. What are my options for loading photos if I did buy this
>version?

Does your camera come with a USB connecting cable? If so you can use
it, but better to use a USB card reader. Early June I got one on eBay
for $4.48 brand new with free shipping.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Jul 22, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Michael Moloney wrote:

> I am currently looking at getting the 11" Mac Book Air but then
> upon reading the specifications I noticed it does not have an SD
> Card slot. What are my options for loading photos if I did buy this
> version?

This should inexpensively remedy the problem:

Transcend USB 2.0 Card Reader
$9 with free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208470

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Dave Clark" dave24c

USB card readers are $20 - $30, I have 2 of them and carry one with the camera and Mac Book Pro at all times.

Dave Clark
Sent from my iPad
949-639-9418

On Jul 22, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> 1. You connect the camera via USB. I think all digital cameras come with
> this ability, and usually with the cable too.
> 2. You buy a USB card reader, and put the camera's card in it. These are
> inexpensive, fast, and also cater for multiple card types.
> 3. You buy an "Eye-Fi" SD card with built-in Wi-Fi. Expensive IMO but the
> ultimate in convenience.
>
> Many digital camera users have managed without an SD card slot in their
> computers for many years. :)
>
> Otto
>
> On 22 July 2012 23:48, Michael Moloney <moloney.icloud@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> I am currently looking at getting the 11" Mac Book Air but then upon
>> reading the specifications I noticed it does not have an SD Card slot.
>> What are my options for loading photos if I did buy this version?
>>
>
>
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Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:08 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael Moloney" moloney_mj

The Eye-FI SD card sounds pretty cool. I haven't heard of that before.

Thanks for your suggestions (and everyone else).

Is there any particular brand I should look for in a USB card reader?

Michael Moloney
moloney.icloud@gmail.com

On 23/07/2012, at 9:15 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> 1. You connect the camera via USB. I think all digital cameras come with
> this ability, and usually with the cable too.
> 2. You buy a USB card reader, and put the camera's card in it. These are
> inexpensive, fast, and also cater for multiple card types.
> 3. You buy an "Eye-Fi" SD card with built-in Wi-Fi. Expensive IMO but the
> ultimate in convenience.
>
> Many digital camera users have managed without an SD card slot in their
> computers for many years. :)
>
> Otto
>
> On 22 July 2012 23:48, Michael Moloney <moloney.icloud@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > I am currently looking at getting the 11" Mac Book Air but then upon
> > reading the specifications I noticed it does not have an SD Card slot.
> > What are my options for loading photos if I did buy this version?
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:37 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Christopher Collins" cjc1959au

Usually, I find you can pick up a brand name one for only a few dollars more than a cheap no-name, even here in OZ.

And almost always you can be sure they will work correctly not only with your Air but anything else you decide to plug it into!

cjc

On 23/07/2012, at 7:08 PM, Michael Moloney wrote:

> The Eye-FI SD card sounds pretty cool. I haven't heard of that before.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions (and everyone else).
>
> Is there any particular brand I should look for in a USB card reader?
>
> Michael Moloney
> moloney.icloud@gmail.com
>
>
> On 23/07/2012, at 9:15 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
>> 1. You connect the camera via USB. I think all digital cameras come with
>> this ability, and usually with the cable too.
>> 2. You buy a USB card reader, and put the camera's card in it. These are
>> inexpensive, fast, and also cater for multiple card types.
>> 3. You buy an "Eye-Fi" SD card with built-in Wi-Fi. Expensive IMO but the
>> ultimate in convenience.
>>
>> Many digital camera users have managed without an SD card slot in their
>> computers for many years. :)
>>
>> Otto
>>
>> On 22 July 2012 23:48, Michael Moloney <moloney.icloud@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I am currently looking at getting the 11" Mac Book Air but then upon
>>> reading the specifications I noticed it does not have an SD Card slot.
>>> What are my options for loading photos if I did buy this version?
>>>

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Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"mpstupinski@snet.net" mstupinski

Believe it or not, I finally upgraded my hardware and went from a G5 Mac running 10.5.8 to to an iMac running 10.7.4. After en extended period of time migrating stuff, updating apps where appropriate, rearranging backup HDs and the Time Machine drive, and other housekeeping stuff, things are settling down, with only two remaining issues:

1. All my mail came over from the old machine, but none of the incoming mail is anywhere other than my Inbox. I have a lot of mail in the system, and it was all organized in sub-mailboxes (Photography, Genealogy, Research, Travel, etc.) A call to Apple got me only the suggestion that I would have to recreate the sub-mailboxes and manually move the appropriate mail to them. Not practical to do that with several thousand emails now ordered by date.

2. My calendars on iCloud are now synched, but the app 'iCal' is filled with "new events" and a scattering of mis-located (by date, that is) actual events. Isn't iCal supposed to pick up the calendars from iCloud?

Solutions/suggestions would be appreciated. I think I'm going to enjoy having traveled to this new era!

............Mike

Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski

I guess that's all I had to do: send out a request for help and then I could solve one of my problems myself! The mail problem was solved by noticing that 'On My Mac' in the Mailbox section on the left hadn't been expanded. Mousing over the area just to the right of those words popped up the word 'Show,' and clicking on that brought up all the populated boxes. I'll sleep better tonight.

:-)

On Jul 22, 2012, at 10:41 PM, mpstupinski@snet.net wrote:

> Believe it or not, I finally upgraded my hardware and went from a G5 Mac running 10.5.8 to to an iMac running 10.7.4. After en extended period of time migrating stuff, updating apps where appropriate, rearranging backup HDs and the Time Machine drive, and other housekeeping stuff, things are settling down, with only two remaining issues:
>
> 1. All my mail came over from the old machine, but none of the incoming mail is anywhere other than my Inbox. I have a lot of mail in the system, and it was all organized in sub-mailboxes (Photography, Genealogy, Research, Travel, etc.) A call to Apple got me only the suggestion that I would have to recreate the sub-mailboxes and manually move the appropriate mail to them. Not practical to do that with several thousand emails now ordered by date.
>
> 2. My calendars on iCloud are now synched, but the app 'iCal' is filled with "new events" and a scattering of mis-located (by date, that is) actual events. Isn't iCal supposed to pick up the calendars from iCloud?
>
> Solutions/suggestions would be appreciated. I think I'm going to enjoy having traveled to this new era!
>
> ............Mike
>
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