7/15/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9001

Mac Support Central

15 New Messages

Digest #9001
1a
Re: A new concern? by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
2a
Re: Cloning by "Barry Austern" barryaus
2b
Re: Cloning by "Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski
2c
Re: Cloning by "LouisD" ldina
2d
Re: Cloning by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
3a
Excel read-only question by "Patti A Robertson" parpiano
3b
Re: Excel read-only question by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
3c
Re: Excel read-only question by "Patti A Robertson" parpiano
4a
Re: Quicken by "Jerry Johnson" nztours
5a
Re: Talking messages? by "Earle Jones" earlejones501
5b
Re: Talking messages? by "keith_w @dslextreme.com" keith9600
6a
Re: Clones by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
6b
Re: Clones by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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WiFi sniffer / analyzer by "Earle Jones" earlejones501
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With SSD and RAID0 LR4 opens by "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen

Messages

Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> Just go to Prefs -> Security & privacy, and make sure you have the firewall enabled (which really is a good idea).
>
> Then click on Firewall Options. In there you can tune your level of paranoia. I would recommend having stealth mode enabled. I don't enabled "block all incoming connections" as that is very restrictive. Instead, each time a new application tries to access the internet, you will get a pop up asking if you want to allow this or not.

How does this deal in any way with OUTgoing connections (Little Snitch's forté)?

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Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus

At 4:08 PM -0400 7/14/12, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > All this talk about clones has me
>wondering…does anyone know of a good way to run
>two cloning operations simultaneously?
>
>Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it.

snip

>But since both cloning operations will be going
>to the same destination drive -- using the same
>drive write-heads -- then on the one hand you
>would be "thrashing" that destination drive
>extremely hard, driving the heads back and forth
>probably hundreds of times every minute between
>the 2 partitions, shortening the life of the
>destination drive mechanism, and on the other
>hand, it wouldn't be significantly faster than
>sequential backups, since the destination is a
>*single* drive with it's associated write-speed
>limitations.

Excellent point. Let me add one other point too,
though. Cloning takes one heck of a lot of
processor power, moving all the data. Sure, the
processor is faster than the drives, but not THAT
much more so, so you would not save that much
time doing a simultaneous double cloning. And,
since one of the drives is a SSD, this would even
MORE run up to processor speed being a bottleneck.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski

Lou,

I have my computer set to startup every day at 5:30 am, and SD is set
to launch every Sunday morning at 5:40. Nothing is running at that
time except any startup items, but I've never had any indication that
they cause any problems. Since SD has the automatic run schedule
option I wouldn't expect you should have to intercept it first and do
a special startup routine. (Of course I may get burned by that some
day.)

..............Mike

On Jul 14, 2012, at 1:02 PM, LouisD wrote:

> Les,
>
> I can't answer your specific question about CCC, but I can provide
> some supplementary info to my last email.
>
> The reason I contacted Shirt Pocket was because I noticed that my
> cloned backup did NOT have the same exact settings when I booted
> from it. This bothered me because I expected an EXACT duplicate and
> I want to make SURE I have rock-solid backups. I suspect having some
> Apps and start-up items open was partially or completely
> responsible. I do know that SuperDuper's backup scripts don't copy
> certain cache and other temporary files, which one can see if they
> check the log after a backup.
>
> David Nanian (Shirt Pocket) told me that "most" programs will not
> cause a problem if left open during a backup, but apparently some
> can. David is extremely "succinct" in his communications, so you
> have to read between the lines. The man doesn't waste words, that's
> for sure. So, I take the safest route I can. Having had crashes on
> PCs before, and having had to reconstruct a mess over weeks, I am
> ultra cautious and conscientious when it comes to backups. I have at
> least 3 backups of my boot drive and my data drive. Overkill
> perhaps, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
>
> Lou
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Les Streater
> <lesstreater@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 14 Jul 2012, at 16:52, LouisD wrote:
>>
>> ===================================
>> "Although it's not strictly necessary, it's usually a good practice
>> to quit all running applications before performing a backup. Since
>> there are some that aren't visible, like the Microsoft Office
>> Database Daemon, it's easiest to log out of your account, and then
>> log back in with the Shift key held down. This will prevent your
>> startup items from running, and helps to ensure that your personal
>> data doesn't change during the backup."
>> ===================================
>>
>>
>> Is this also true of CCC? Does anyone know what the differences
>> might be?
>>
>> Les Streater
>> www.lesstreater.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"LouisD" ldina

Mike,

I suspect that will work fine, especially since you have a machine that has freshly booted. I was able to boot and run successfully from my backup drive that way. I just noticed that some of my user settings were a bit different and didn't jive with my normal boot drive. I don't think it is a big deal, but it bugged me and I wanted to be sure.

Since I keep my computer on 24/7, I just log off before going to bed, then login in without any startup items, and let SD do it's thing at 1:00am with a totally clean slate. and since that jives with David Nanian's recommendation, it feels safer to me.

I used to leave a lot of apps running before going to bed, but now I follow my new backup routine. It may be overkill.

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Michael P. Stupinski" <mpstupinski@...> wrote:
>
> Lou,
>
> I have my computer set to startup every day at 5:30 am, and SD is set
> to launch every Sunday morning at 5:40. Nothing is running at that
> time except any startup items, but I've never had any indication that
> they cause any problems. Since SD has the automatic run schedule
> option I wouldn't expect you should have to intercept it first and do
> a special startup routine. (Of course I may get burned by that some
> day.)
>
> ..............Mike

Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 14 July 2012 21:08, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

> > All this talk about clones has me wondering…does anyone know of a good
> way to run two cloning operations simultaneously?
>
> Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it.
>
> > I have the 500GB spinning drive that came with my MBP, plus a 240GB SSD
> I added a couple of months ago. I clone them regularly to two partitions on
> an external 1TB FireWire drive (which then gets backed up elsewhere) but I
> currently clone one drive and then the other. It sure would be nice to be
> able to do them at the same time.
>
> If your destinations were 2 separate backup *drives* (as opposed to 2
> separate backup *partitions* on the SAME drive), I could recommend using
> CCC to make one clone while using SD! to make the other.
>
> But since both cloning operations will be going to the same destination
> drive -- using the same drive write-heads -- then on the one hand you would
> be "thrashing" that destination drive extremely hard, driving the heads
> back and forth probably hundreds of times every minute between the 2
> partitions, shortening the life of the destination drive mechanism, and on
> the other hand, it wouldn't be significantly faster than sequential
> backups, since the destination is a *single* drive with it's associated
> write-speed limitations.
>

You can make multiple backups simultaneously on the same computer using CCC
(and SD too I suspect) but I don't know of any situation where it would
save you time. CCC uses little RAM or CPU: disk access and your data
connection are the bottlenecks, and the former becomes dominant when more
than one process is accessing your drives (internal and backup). Just think
what the heads are doing!

Run them sequentially.

Otto

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Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Patti A Robertson" parpiano

Hope this question isn't too off-topic.

When I open an Excel file, sometimes I get the message "opening in Read-Only" And then it says Notify when available for Read-Write. And it never goes to Read-Write (if I click Notify, the whole thing closes and I get to re-open and go through the same cycle again) which makes the point of having a spreadsheet that I can add data to completely useless. To make it work the only thing I've found is to use "save as", make a new name for the new document, and then save it and delete the old one. It's really frustrating.

Because I'm running Snow Leopard Mac OS 10.6.8 on MacBook Pro,
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro6,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz

I can still use the save as command. But when I upgrade to Lion, that option will be gone.

I've searched Excel help and the internet for answers to why this has happened and how to get it out of Read-Only mode, but nothing seems to be there to be found.

In the File menu, under General there's an Attributes category with read-only, but it's greyed out - and read-only is not checked.

Does anyone know what might be causing this, and what I could do to fix it?

Thanks much for any help!

Patti

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Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

You are opening a file which is read-only. This might be because of file
permissions but it might also because the file is on a volume that is
itself read-only. Where are these files?

Otto

On 14 July 2012 21:37, Patti A Robertson <pattiandken@charter.net> wrote:

> Hope this question isn't too off-topic.
>
> When I open an Excel file, sometimes I get the message "opening in
> Read-Only" And then it says Notify when available for Read-Write. And it
> never goes to Read-Write (if I click Notify, the whole thing closes and I
> get to re-open and go through the same cycle again) which makes the point
> of having a spreadsheet that I can add data to completely useless. To make
> it work the only thing I've found is to use "save as", make a new name for
> the new document, and then save it and delete the old one. It's really
> frustrating.
>
> Because I'm running Snow Leopard Mac OS 10.6.8 on MacBook Pro,
> Model Name: MacBook Pro
> Model Identifier: MacBookPro6,1
> Processor Name: Intel Core i7
> Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
>
> I can still use the save as command. But when I upgrade to Lion, that
> option will be gone.
>
> I've searched Excel help and the internet for answers to why this has
> happened and how to get it out of Read-Only mode, but nothing seems to be
> there to be found.
>
> In the File menu, under General there's an Attributes category with
> read-only, but it's greyed out - and read-only is not checked.
>
> Does anyone know what might be causing this, and what I could do to fix it?
>
> Thanks much for any help!
>

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Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Patti A Robertson" parpiano

The Excel files are on my home computer which is the MacBook Pro I mentioned.

I didn't create the file as read-only. It would open normally until today when I opened it and got the read-only message.

Patti

On Jul 14, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> You are opening a file which is read-only. This might be because of file
> permissions but it might also because the file is on a volume that is
> itself read-only. Where are these files?
>
> Otto
>
> On 14 July 2012 21:37, Patti A Robertson <pattiandken@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > Hope this question isn't too off-topic.
> >
> > When I open an Excel file, sometimes I get the message "opening in
> > Read-Only" And then it says Notify when available for Read-Write. And it
> > never goes to Read-Write (if I click Notify, the whole thing closes and I
> > get to re-open and go through the same cycle again) which makes the point
> > of having a spreadsheet that I can add data to completely useless. To make
> > it work the only thing I've found is to use "save as", make a new name for
> > the new document, and then save it and delete the old one. It's really
> > frustrating.
> >
> > Because I'm running Snow Leopard Mac OS 10.6.8 on MacBook Pro,
> > Model Name: MacBook Pro
> > Model Identifier: MacBookPro6,1
> > Processor Name: Intel Core i7
> > Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
> >
> > I can still use the save as command. But when I upgrade to Lion, that
> > option will be gone.
> >
> > I've searched Excel help and the internet for answers to why this has
> > happened and how to get it out of Read-Only mode, but nothing seems to be
> > there to be found.
> >
> > In the File menu, under General there's an Attributes category with
> > read-only, but it's greyed out - and read-only is not checked.
> >
> > Does anyone know what might be causing this, and what I could do to fix it?
> >
> > Thanks much for any help!
> >
>
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>
>

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Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:59 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jerry Johnson" nztours

I have been using the PC version of Quicken 2011 on my MBP 2.8GHz Corei7 using Cross Over 11.2 This combination works reasonably well.

I have tried various OSX compatible personal finance programs including the latest version of iBank and none of them will handle historical mutual fund or stock transactions as well as Quicken.

That said, I will continue to look for a Quicken replacement because I do not like Intuit's business practices. And I particularly dislike their lack of serious development for the Mac platform.

Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:30 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Earle Jones" earlejones501


On Jul 14, 12, at 10:24 AM, keith_w @dslextreme.com wrote:

> Thanks for the thought. It wasn't that.
> The System voice is male, "Alex", and recognizable as a machine-generated
> voice. Quite clear. This female voice is not. I'll keep looking.
> Thanks... keith

*
Have you tried the voice of "Samantha", which is the voice of Siri? It's available at:

System Preferences > Text to Speech > System Voice > (pull down) Customize and click 'Samantha'.

There are *many* custom voices available, including the old 'Deranged', 'Hysterical', 'Bubbles' and 'Bad News'.
Try some of the foreign voices. 'Serena' under the English (UK) is very sexy! The ladies will love Mikko from Finland.

earle
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501 Portola Road #8008
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Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"keith_w @dslextreme.com" keith9600

Just downloaded Samantha. I'll try that for a while. Might just turn it
off.
Thanks for your ideas.
Have you a clue as to where the voice over started? I came from a previous
version of Lion, so I know it wasn't on board except in the last week. When
I got 10.7.4.
Oh well.
Thanks anyhow...

keith

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> On Jul 14, 12, at 10:24 AM, keith_w @dslextreme.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the thought. It wasn't that.
> > The System voice is male, "Alex", and recognizable as a machine-generated
> > voice. Quite clear. This female voice is not. I'll keep looking.
> > Thanks... keith
>
> *
> Have you tried the voice of "Samantha", which is the voice of Siri? It's
> available at:
>
> System Preferences > Text to Speech > System Voice > (pull down) Customize
> and click 'Samantha'.
>
> There are *many* custom voices available, including the old 'Deranged',
> 'Hysterical', 'Bubbles' and 'Bad News'.
> Try some of the foreign voices. 'Serena' under the English (UK) is very
> sexy! The ladies will love Mikko from Finland.
>
> earle
> *
> _______________________
> Earle Jones 
> 501 Portola Road #8008
> Portola Valley CA 94028
> Home: 650-424-4362
> Cell: 650-269-0035
> earle.jones@comcast.net
>
>
>

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Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

You can do this with CCC with absolute control over what is backed up and
how frequently. In addition to bootable clones, we have daily/weekly/etc
*user* backups on a NAS (we don't need hourly).

I was unable to get TM to work with the NAS.

I accept that TM probably has a much better interface for restoring files,
but I also note that many people have difficulty using that interface!

Otto

On 14 July 2012 19:56, Terry Pogue <tpogue@comcast.net> wrote:

> One thing about Time Machine, you don't know you've got it until you need
> it. THEN it's the most wonderful thing on your computer. I've only had to
> use it two or three times since it came out. It totally wonderful when
> something goes wrong with a report or document and you can just use Time
> Machine and just get a copy from a week or two ago. Talk about life
> insurance!
>

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Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 14 July 2012 21:13, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

> >> They're probably equally good; I prefer the interface of SuperDuper!
> >
> > I agree, but you can trial the full version of CCC for free whereas you
> can't with SD, IOW you can run CCC as long as you like, and then donate
> when you're happy with it.
>
> On the other hand, Otto, you can use a limited version of SD! for free,
> forever:
>
> > Download Now!
> > You can download SuperDuper! v2.6.4 right now and back up and clone your
> drives for free — forever!
>

Yes, but this is effectively unusable: you can only make a full clone
*every* time. Incremental/sync backups are available only once you've paid.
Full clones can take a long time.

Otto

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Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Earle Jones" earlejones501

Greetings!

Can anyone recommend a WiFi sniffer? I want something that is a bit better than just using the iPhone > Settings > WiFi > Choose a Network. This works for finding a hotspot and gives a very rough idea of signal strength, but I would like some analog data on the signal strength for placement of routers, etc.

The Lion program 'Wi-Fi Diagnostics' is great -- actually more than I need.

Do you use: Your HD > System > Library > Core Services > Wi-Fi Diagnostics? It gives a very nice graph of router signal strength in dbm and the noise level in dbm on the same graph. It records a two-minute block of data continuously. Right now my signal level is about -50 dbm and the noise is about -95 dbm.

What I would like is something similar in a smaller package. I could use this 'Wi-Fi Diagnostics' program on a laptop or MacAir. Is there an app for iPhone or iPad that would do something like this? I have heard that Apple has withdrawn apps that sniff wifi signals. If I could just the signal strength in dbm that would be fine.

Any helpful guidance is greatly appreciated!

earle
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Cell: 650-269-0035
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Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen

I had to make some changes in my daisy chain of Quad externals, but now with (SSD) and OWC's RAID0 (Performance),
LR4 opens in a blink of an eye. Thanks, Lou, and the young lady who first mentioned it.
now, all i got to do is get out there with my Canon 5D Mark II (bought on impulse, but what a fine piece of technology it is)
and do shooting.
After getting my iMac back from Apple, there is a couple of spots i can't remove, and i cannot drag my folders to my old Son 19" CRT
any more. so, back to Apple. such a hardship. ha. especially since it is in Santa Barbara, and i love that city.

but, my next computer? a Mac Pro. maybe in 2 years. new ones due out in 2013, i think. so, maybe in 2015?
or maybe i won't wait that long.

doug

Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

* "If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it,
change your attitude." ~Maya Angelou

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