7/21/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9014

9 New Messages

Digest #9014
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Re: What's the best way to run a Dual O/S? by "Paul Cartwright" mactechservices
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iTunes Problem by "Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001
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Re: iTunes Problem by "John Engberg" mrmacbyte
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Re: iTunes Problem by "LouisD" ldina

Messages

Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> The Lion Recovery partition is invisible.
>
> Check for it by restarting with Command r pressed (r for recovery). Or, restart with Option pressed and then select the OS you want to boot from using the arrow keys on keyboard.

From <http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/qt/Enable-Disk-Utilitys-Debug-Menu.htm>

> With OS X Lion, Apple added a restore partition on the startup drive that you can use to boot from and run utilities such as Disk Utility, re-install OS X, and even access the Internet to find solutions to problems you may be having. The restore partition is hidden, however, and isn't visible from within Disk Utility.
>
> This can lead to a number of issues, including the possibility, over time, of having multiple restore partitions on various drives as you duplicate drives, replace drives, or re-install Lion. It can also prevent you from moving the restore partition to a new drive, should you ever need to replace a drive or just want to move things around on your drives.
>
> It's understandable why Apple wants to hide some of the recovery partition. For instance, when you format a drive, the process creates a small 200 MB partition that the EFI bios needs for booting. These small EFI partitions don't contain any data that end users need, and there's no reason for them to be visible. But if you would like to be able to access the OS X Lion recovery partition to create clones or backups, enabling the Debug menu in Disk Utility is the easiest way to see and work with these invisible partitions.
>
> Enable the Debug Menu in Disk Utility
>
> • Quit Disk Utility if it is open.
>
> • Launch Terminal, located at /Applications/Utilities.
>
> • Enter the following command at the Terminal prompt:
> defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility DUDebugMenuEnabled 1
>
> • Press enter or return.
>
> • Close Terminal.
>
> The next time you launch Disk Utility, the Debug menu will be available.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"LouisD" ldina

Thanks Dan & Jim.

I restarted with the Option key and the Recovery Partition did indeed show up...sneaky little buggers! At least I know it is intact and raring to go if I need it.

All appears to be well. This forum has been very helpful and I have learned a lot in a short period of time. Thanks all.

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> The Lion Recovery partition is invisible.
>
> Check for it by restarting with Command r pressed (r for recovery). Or, restart with Option pressed and then select the OS you want to boot from using the arrow keys on keyboard.

Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Paul Cartwright" mactechservices

Louis,
You can also run the system profiler (black apple, about this mac, more info) click on applications (lower left corner) have the machine prepare its report then click on the word kind so that it sorts them. Now scroll down pass intel until you get to the power pc apps. Some are buried deep in libraries. When you highlight them, the description will tell you where those are.

Might as well thoroughly clean the machine.

Paul

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:46 PM, "LouisD" <lou@loudina.com> wrote:

> Thanks again, Daly.
>
> Remember, I am coming from 20+ years of using Windows, so if you look at the damn thing sideways, it craters on you! No wonder I'm paranoid!
>
> I'm getting there.
>
> Lou
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Daly Jessup <jessup@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:53 PM, LouisD wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the help, everyone. I now have my MacPro set up with Lion on one drive and Snow Leopard with all my legacy PPC programs on the other. Just a few more questions.
> >
> > Good for you! And it wasn't hard, was it.
> >
> > > 1. I updated from Snow Leopard 10.6.8 to Lion 10.7.4 (I did NOT do a fresh install from scratch). Does "updating" from Snow Leopard install a recovery partition? If so, where is it?
> >
> > Don't know.
> >
> > > 2. I have 6 or 8 programs on my Lion boot drive that won't work under Lion and need to be uninstalled. Some programs have uninstallers, which I will use, but some do not. What's the best way to remove those programs that won't work under Lion?
> >
> > If they don't have uninstallers, just drag the apps to the trash. And if you can find Preferences for that app, delete those, too. But you will never hear from them again if you just drag them to the trash. Oh, look in ~/Library/Application Support/ to see if there is anything there for the apps, but I seriously doubt it, given that they were PPC apps.
> >
> > > (Daly, it WAS a lot easier than I thought it would be, but having not done this before, I tend to be cautious and look before I leap. All too often, software doesn't warn you about things until it is too late.)
> >
> > No, you did a good job. Now just be brave about deleting the old apps on the Lion disk, and stop worrying about it. You're home free.
> >
> > Daly
> >
>
>

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Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"LouisD" ldina

Thx, Paul.

I just did as you recommended and found a dozen lurkers, which are now history.

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Paul Cartwright <paul@...> wrote:
>
> Louis,
> You can also run the system profiler (black apple, about this mac, more info) click on applications (lower left corner) have the machine prepare its report then click on the word kind so that it sorts them. Now scroll down pass intel until you get to the power pc apps. Some are buried deep in libraries. When you highlight them, the description will tell you where those are.
>
> Might as well thoroughly clean the machine.
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:46 PM, "LouisD" <lou@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks again, Daly.
> >
> > Remember, I am coming from 20+ years of using Windows, so if you look at the damn thing sideways, it craters on you! No wonder I'm paranoid!
> >
> > I'm getting there.
> >
> > Lou
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Daly Jessup <jessup@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:53 PM, LouisD wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the help, everyone. I now have my MacPro set up with Lion on one drive and Snow Leopard with all my legacy PPC programs on the other. Just a few more questions.
> > >
> > > Good for you! And it wasn't hard, was it.
> > >
> > > > 1. I updated from Snow Leopard 10.6.8 to Lion 10.7.4 (I did NOT do a fresh install from scratch). Does "updating" from Snow Leopard install a recovery partition? If so, where is it?
> > >
> > > Don't know.
> > >
> > > > 2. I have 6 or 8 programs on my Lion boot drive that won't work under Lion and need to be uninstalled. Some programs have uninstallers, which I will use, but some do not. What's the best way to remove those programs that won't work under Lion?
> > >
> > > If they don't have uninstallers, just drag the apps to the trash. And if you can find Preferences for that app, delete those, too. But you will never hear from them again if you just drag them to the trash. Oh, look in ~/Library/Application Support/ to see if there is anything there for the apps, but I seriously doubt it, given that they were PPC apps.
> > >
> > > > (Daly, it WAS a lot easier than I thought it would be, but having not done this before, I tend to be cautious and look before I leap. All too often, software doesn't warn you about things until it is too late.)
> > >
> > > No, you did a good job. Now just be brave about deleting the old apps on the Lion disk, and stop worrying about it. You're home free.
> > >
> > > Daly
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001

Maybe someone will take the time to actually respond to an issue I have
occasionally. :)

I have a problem adding a compilation I purchased from the iTunes Store
awhile back. The album does NOT apear in my library, however, iTunes
ill not add any of the songs back to the library. The items are listed
as a compilation. I've tried to add the items back every conceivable
way. I've dragged the item to the library, attemted to add the folder
back, and attempted to add individual tracks back to the library to no
avail.

I am positive that the tracks are not in the library. I've used other
apps to search for them, no luck. I finally eyeballed the entire
library, item by item, not there.

I don't understand why these items won't add back. In the 'old days',
the Apple ID had to be consistent with the items purchased, DRM'd. I've
attempted to match the ID I bought them with to iTunes itself. No luck.

Could this possibly a corrupt library pointer file?

Any help would be appreciated guys. I've been around here for years as
most of you old-timers know. I've offered advice when I can, and I've
asked for help maybe once in a blue moon. I don't 'lurk', but I don't
'overwhelm' the group with my 'infinite' knowledge as some tend to.
I've been in the industry since 1974, pre-home computer days. It's
pretty frustrating to send these emails into the void.

My opinon FWIW.

Harry

Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"John Engberg" mrmacbyte


On Jul 21, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> Maybe someone will take the time to actually respond to an issue I have
> occasionally. :)
>
> I have a problem adding a compilation I purchased from the iTunes Store
> awhile back. The album does NOT apear in my library, however, iTunes
> ill not add any of the songs back to the library. The items are listed
> as a compilation. I've tried to add the items back every conceivable
> way. I've dragged the item to the library, attemted to add the folder
> back, and attempted to add individual tracks back to the library to no
> avail.
>
> I am positive that the tracks are not in the library. I've used other
> apps to search for them, no luck. I finally eyeballed the entire
> library, item by item, not there.
>
> I don't understand why these items won't add back. In the 'old days',
> the Apple ID had to be consistent with the items purchased, DRM'd. I've
> attempted to match the ID I bought them with to iTunes itself. No luck.
>
> Could this possibly a corrupt library pointer file?
>
> Any help would be appreciated guys. I've been around here for years as
> most of you old-timers know. I've offered advice when I can, and I've
> asked for help maybe once in a blue moon. I don't 'lurk', but I don't
> 'overwhelm' the group with my 'infinite' knowledge as some tend to.
> I've been in the industry since 1974, pre-home computer days. It's
> pretty frustrating to send these emails into the void.
>
> My opinon FWIW.
>
> Harry
>

Hello, Harry,

I can understand why people are reluctant to stick their oar in on this problem.

These is probably a dumb suggestion, but you never know. It's a weird work-around, but it might solve your problem.

Obviously, you have the music on your computer - someplace other than iTunes. . Why don't you dupe the tracks and then rename the duped tracks to track 01, track 02, etc. Then add the renamed tracks to iTunes. Search for "track", create a playlist for the appropriate "track" files, and then rename them properly. If iTunes doesn't like the correct names, add a 1 to the titles - then they're "different" songs. You also could create the playlist before you added the tracks. That would obviate the necessity of the search.

John Engberg

Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"LouisD" ldina

Harry,

My knowledge is limited in this area, since I usually buy my music from Amazon instead of the iTunes Store, and haven't had this problem. Apparently some others have had the same, or a similar, problem. Here's a discussion on what may be the same subject. Not sure if it will help or not.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3540620?start=0&tstart=0

Lou

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe someone will take the time to actually respond to an issue I have
> occasionally. :)
>
> I have a problem adding a compilation I purchased from the iTunes Store
> awhile back. The album does NOT apear in my library, however, iTunes
> ill not add any of the songs back to the library. The items are listed
> as a compilation. I've tried to add the items back every conceivable
> way. I've dragged the item to the library, attemted to add the folder
> back, and attempted to add individual tracks back to the library to no
> avail.
>
> I am positive that the tracks are not in the library. I've used other
> apps to search for them, no luck. I finally eyeballed the entire
> library, item by item, not there.
>
> I don't understand why these items won't add back. In the 'old days',
> the Apple ID had to be consistent with the items purchased, DRM'd. I've
> attempted to match the ID I bought them with to iTunes itself. No luck.
>
> Could this possibly a corrupt library pointer file?
>
> Any help would be appreciated guys. I've been around here for years as
> most of you old-timers know. I've offered advice when I can, and I've
> asked for help maybe once in a blue moon. I don't 'lurk', but I don't
> 'overwhelm' the group with my 'infinite' knowledge as some tend to.
> I've been in the industry since 1974, pre-home computer days. It's
> pretty frustrating to send these emails into the void.
>
> My opinon FWIW.
>
> Harry
>

Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:11 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"T Hopkins" todhop

He's at Genius Bar now and they're being great, trying to get it to run and maybe recover data, but the repair quote was $1240. I'm assuming they want to replace the MB. I have no details yet, but I'm pretty sure he'll try to get it repaired cheaper than that, which is what the Internet places promise. As I said, there is one that "specializes" in water damage and claims they can repair most machines without replacing the MB.

tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins-at-hillmanncarr.com

On Jul 20, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Barry Austern wrote:

> At 9:37 PM -0400 7/20/12, T Hopkins wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Macbook Pro just out of warranty refuses to start. No Applecare. In
> >any case, the problem may be water/moisture caused. I am familiar
> >with some flat price Internet repair sites and have been told there
> >is one that specializes in water damage.
> >
> >Can anyone recommend any of these repair services from experience?
> >I've only ever used local, Apple authorized shops.
>
> Try the local Apple Store genius bar. If truly just out of warranty
> they might cut a deal with you cheaper than a 3rd party might do.
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net
>
>

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Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:37 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bill B." kernos501

I'm not sure if this is a Safari pref or an extension, but my Safari reverted to not showing a tab bar with only one tab open and I want it to always show. It makes it easier to move 1 tab to another window for organizational purposes.

Anyone know where this is?

TIA,

Bill

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