7/28/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9027

15 New Messages

Digest #9027
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DVD and Mountain Lion by "Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000
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Re: DVD and Mountain Lion by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: DVD and Mountain Lion by "Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000
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Re: Airplay and Mountain Lion by "ed-reiff" ed-reiff
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Re: Airplay and Mountain Lion by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: Auto-Save Insanity in Lion by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Drobo 5D External Drive Case - Wow! by "Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000
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Re: Drobo 5D External Drive Case - Wow! by "Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000
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Re: Drobo 5D External Drive Case - Wow! by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Drobo 5D External Drive Case - Wow! by "Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000
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Mountain Lion & GyazMail by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Lion Pulled From App Store by "Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001

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Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000

Sorry folks DVDs do play they play on my husbands machine and on my small 13 inch laptop so it's something strange going on with my desktop computer. None of the mountain lion machines will play DVD media files that I have on my raid drive but the DVDs that come right out of the box play fine.
Terry

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Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Terry, here's something to check on.

If you have a new Mac, or if you have installed a clean Mountain Lion
OS, you might also need to install some of the video codex utilities
and players to enable some types of videos to play.

Check for these at MacUpdate site:

- Flip4Mac
- Perian (being discontinued but not sure when)
- VLC video player app.

Denver Dan

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:17:09 -0400, Terry Pogue wrote:
> Sorry folks DVDs do play they play on my husbands machine and on my
> small 13 inch laptop so it's something strange going on with my
> desktop computer. None of the mountain lion machines will play DVD
> media files that I have on my raid drive but the DVDs that come right
> out of the box play fine.
> Terry

Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:47 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000

Thanks Dan. My VLC works fine but I'll make sure it's up to date. I'll also check Flip4Mac. I don't have Perian.
I'm having such fun with Dictation. That's the best� what fun.
terry

On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> Terry, here's something to check on.
>
> If you have a new Mac, or if you have installed a clean Mountain Lion
> OS, you might also need to install some of the video codex utilities
> and players to enable some types of videos to play.
>
> Check for these at MacUpdate site:
>
> - Flip4Mac
> - Perian (being discontinued but not sure when)
> - VLC video player app.
>
> Denver Dan

Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:24 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"ed-reiff" ed-reiff

Apple menu>About this Mac>More info

Ed

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <avlisk@...> wrote:
>
> Jim, et al,
> I bought my MacBook Air in "mid 2011", August to be exact. So, it could go either way. How do I determine for sure? Thanks.
> Ken S.
>
> Jim Saklad <jimdoc@> wrote
> >
> > AirPlay Mirroring
> > Requires a second-generation Apple TV or later. Supports the following Mac models:
> >
> > iMac (Mid 2011 or newer)
> > Mac mini (Mid 2011 or newer)
> > MacBook Air (Mid 2011 or newer)
> > MacBook Pro (Early 2011 or newer)
>

Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:06 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
> The designation "Mid 2011 MacBook Air" specifies one 11" model and one 13" model, also designated "MacBookAir4,1" and "MacBookAir4,2".
>
> On your machine, click on "About This Mac" in the Apple menu, then click "More Info...", then "System Report..."
>
> When you click "Hardware" in the left pane of the resulting window, the second item on the right should be a designator like "MacBookAir4,2" or "MacBookAir3,2".

Jim, that's really useful info. Do you have the same info for "Mid-2011" iMacs? I occasionally need to know if a given iMac will still run Snow Leopard, and it would help so much to know for sure what model designation would tell me a given iMac is before or after the "no Snow Leopard" cutoff.

Daly

Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

The formatted structure of a drive is not dependent on the type of
drive/case cable in use at time of formatting.

In other words, FW 800 is not something that the actual HD inside the
case is aware of but rather a little circuit board in the case (usually
called a bridge chip) connects to both a FW and to a USB port and then
a separate data connector runs from the bridge chip to the actual HD.
So the actual HD in the case doesn't care what kind of connection cable
is used.

Denver Dan

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:37:58 -0700, James Robertson wrote:
> And, am I correct that I can plug in the USB interface to the iPhoto
> drive and have my computers recognize the formatted volume on the
> drive even though the volume was created while the drive was
> connected to the computer with a FW800 interface?
>
> Thanks so much,
>
>
> --
> Jim Robertson

Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:25 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

A further note on this.

It appears that this saving of "zillions of saved snapshots" could be
related only to an IMAP type of email account and not to a POP type of
account.

I also asked a friend in Ogden, Utah, for help on this. He aimed me in
what we hope is the right direction. He is a member of this group but
rarely posts and used to be president of the Mile High Macintosh User
Group (MUG) in Denver, Colorado, years ago when I joined that MUG and
began to learn a lot.

Our quiet Ogden friend is also a fairly major Macintosh and video whizz
so I'm hoping I can encourage him to post occasionally when there is a
thorny video question that needs to be answered!

Denver Dan

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:51:12 +0000, LouisD wrote:
> But....when typing a message from Mail on my Mac, Lion's auto-save
> feature was taking snapshots every 30 seconds and saving multiple
> copies of my drafts. I had zillions of saved snapshots in my Trash,
> Sent and other folders. It was driving me nuts. They were also ending
> up on my Gmail servers (the good news being that at least they are
> syncing properly).
>
> With some help from Denver Dan, I found a setting in Mail that seems
> to turn those draft auto-saves off. I'm using IMAP. I sent to Mail
> Prefs > Accounts > Gmail > Mailbox Behaviors and "unchecked" to box
> that says "Store draft messages on the server".
>
> So far that seems to have eliminated the problem. If it doesn't, I
> will report back.
>
> Lou

Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000

I am awaiting a Drobo Raid next week. Mine is 5D. I wonder what the difference is. The one I'm getting is 10TB iirc.

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On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Wow is the operative word here.
> for sure.
> doug
> Doug Yelmen
> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>
> They keep you scared to keep you
> subdued.
>
> Stop being scared and start standing
> up.
>
> On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Drobo has announced a new Drobo 5D external drive case to start
>> shipping September 30, 2012.
>>
>> It's a bit pricey but for mega storage and speed this is an interesting
>> device!
>>
>> Drobo 5D. External drive case:
>>
>> five SATA HDs,
>> one mSATA SSD drive,
>> two Thunderbolt ports,
>> one USB 3 port,
>> hot swappable drives,
>> includes a sort of UPS battery that in case of power outage will take
>> over and finish writing data to storage before shutting down.
>>
>> Wow!
>>
>> Denver Dan
>>
>>
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Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I am awaiting a Drobo Raid next week. Mine is 5D. I wonder what the difference is.

Difference between what and what?

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Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:49 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000

Between the one i ordered and the one coming out the end of September.

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On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

>> I am awaiting a Drobo Raid next week. Mine is 5D. I wonder what the difference is.
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Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

>>> I am awaiting a Drobo Raid next week. Mine is 5D. I wonder what the difference is.
>>
>> Difference between what and what?
>
> Between the one I ordered and the one coming out the end of September.

The 5D *is* the new one, and they state that it is "expected to ship to customers by the end of September".

There are several older models -- USB2 only, USB + Firewire 800, 4 drive bays, 6 drive bays, etc.

The 5D (and the also to-be-released Mini) are the first to have Thunderbolt and USB3 connectivity.

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Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Five 2 TB hard drives would be 10 TB.

Denver Dan

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:26:18 -0400, Terry Pogue wrote:
> I am awaiting a Drobo Raid next week. Mine is 5D. I wonder what the
> difference is. The one I'm getting is 10TB iirc.

Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:12 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000

yes. I also have another RAID but it is only 8 TB I think. It has four drawers.

On Jul 28, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> Five 2 TB hard drives would be 10 TB.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:26:18 -0400, Terry Pogue wrote:
>> I am awaiting a Drobo Raid next week. Mine is 5D. I wonder what the
>> difference is. The one I'm getting is 10TB iirc.
>
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Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Some group members use GyazMail (I do) and the GyazMail people have
just released version 1.5.14 which has the Gatekeeper feature
incorporated for use with Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion.

Denver Dan

Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001

Macworld reports that Lion is no longer available in any form, from the
App store.

This might be problematic, the magazine reports:

http://www.macworld.com/article/1167879/apple_pulls_lion_from_the_mac_app_store.html#lsrc.fb_mw

Harry

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