7/30/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9032

11 New Messages

Digest #9032
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Re: Wired connection to Airport Extreme by "davidpriceuk" davidpriceuk
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Re: Upgrade to Mountain Lion by "Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000
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Re: Recursive "Applications" Folder by "Alan Fry" alanjohnfry
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3m Copies Of Mountain Lion In 4 Days! by "Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001
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Re: 3m Copies Of Mountain Lion In 4 Days! by "Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001
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Re: Mountain Lion & GyazMail by "Jeannie" chloe898

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Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Frank T" frankt192

I did set up a password and it did work,once.

Tried several times with negative results, simply opened without putting in the password.

Thanks.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
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> Howdy
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> You wouldn't be asked for a password when opening a Numbers document unless you had used the password feature to make it a secure document.
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> I haven't had a password problem with numbers. However, I've only experimented with the feature. Could it be an issue related to moving the document to a different computer? Or some kind of Auto Save problem? I'm a bit nervous about Auto Save in any case.
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> On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
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> >> After putting in a password and having it work I have had the password not work at all.
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> >> Anyone have this problem?
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> > I have never been asked for a password when using Numbers.
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Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Frank T" frankt192

I did set up a password and it did work,once.

Tried several times with negative results, simply opened without putting in the password.

Thanks.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
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> Howdy
>
> You wouldn't be asked for a password when opening a Numbers document unless you had used the password feature to make it a secure document.
>
> I haven't had a password problem with numbers. However, I've only experimented with the feature. Could it be an issue related to moving the document to a different computer? Or some kind of Auto Save problem? I'm a bit nervous about Auto Save in any case.
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> iSent from iDan's iPad
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> On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
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> >> After putting in a password and having it work I have had the password not work at all.
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> >> Anyone have this problem?
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> > I have never been asked for a password when using Numbers.
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:38 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"davidpriceuk" davidpriceuk

Sorry I didn't reply to this, I've been away.

The MacBook Air is plugged into the HomePlug via ethernet cable in my office, and the other HomePlug attaches via ethernet cable to the Airport Extreme in the house. It's all working fine now anyway.

David

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
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> On 10 July 2012 18:01, Jurgen Richter <yahoo-1@...> wrote:
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> > Otto wrote: If the MB Air *is* directly connected to the AirPort
> > Extreme where does the
> > "ethernet going through the power lines" fit into all this?
> >
> > There are some ethernet networking kits you can buy in North America
> > that don't need extra wiring to go room to room. There is an interface
> > adapter that plugs into a mains/wall outlet at one end and other
> > adapters in the chosen rooms that connect that way. They use the
> > housewiring to carry the ethernet signal. Personally I don't know how
> > much electrical interference you get with such a setup; many of us use
> > better Cat 5e or 6 level ethernet cables to avoid such an issue.
> >
>
> Yes, I'm quite aware of that tech; it's been around for at least 10 years
> and is called HomePlug.;) My question to David was, which part of his
> network does this form?
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> Otto
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Budd T" n7eoj

I just noticed I can't preview the system sounds in Preferences.
I wanted to change that deep base note that I guess is default for Notifications, but unable to hear any of the sounds available.
Is it just my iMac or another ML flub?

Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Mark Workman" workmam

I have the same model MacPro and upgraded to a better video card a few
years back. It would not let me install ML.
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Howdy.

I have a first generation MacPro which doesn't qualify for Mountain
Lion install.

However, there is now information going about, and some articles, that
upgrading the video card in a MacPro may <possibly> make it qualify and
allow for the installation of Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion.

Here's one article from MNN:

<http://www.macnn.com/articles/12/07/12/graphic.chipsets.limits.some.fai
rly.recent.models/>

And here's one sentence from this article;

"As a rule of thumb, if a user's machine is using an Nvidia GeForce
9400M or better, it is likely to work with Mountain Lion."

I intend to do some more research on this and would get a newer video
card if it would allow for Mountain Lion to be installed.

I think that the MacPros seem to have some problems with video cards
becoming defective. I've had this experience with a 2nd and faster
video card that became defective and have know several other MacPro
tower owners with similar experiences.

Denver Dan


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Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Thanks for your note Mark.

Could you respond with the exact model video card that you upgraded
to? Should be available in System Information (About This Mac… etc.)

In other words, is it an Nvidia GeForce 9400M or higher card model
(reading that line from the article)?

Denver Dan

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:10:32 -0400, Mark Workman wrote:
> I have the same model MacPro and upgraded to a better video card a few
> years back. It would not let me install ML.
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> Howdy.
>
> I have a first generation MacPro which doesn't qualify for Mountain
> Lion install.
>
> However, there is now information going about, and some articles, that
> upgrading the video card in a MacPro may <possibly> make it qualify and
> allow for the installation of Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion.
>
> Here's one article from MNN:
>
> <http://www.macnn.com/articles/12/07/12/graphic.chipsets.limits.some.fai
> rly.recent.models/>
>
> And here's one sentence from this article;
>
> "As a rule of thumb, if a user's machine is using an Nvidia GeForce
> 9400M or better, it is likely to work with Mountain Lion."
>
> I intend to do some more research on this and would get a newer video
> card if it would allow for Mountain Lion to be installed.

Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Terry Pogue" terrypogue_2000

You do need a password on your computer to use Onyx. I have never given any of my computers but had to this time.

��� Sent from my iPadHD

On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:02 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Stop! Do not download and use CleanMyMac. Download Onyx. It is free and will do the same.
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> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, us2forever <us2forever@...> wrote:
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>> Thank you for the information, just what I wanted to know. I was wondering if I scan and clean with "Cleanmymac" would I keep the caches down to a good level or do I need to go to the Systems file to clean them properly?
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>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Kay
>> MacBook Air
>> Mac OS X 10.8
>> 1.8 GHz Intel Core i7
>> 4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3
>> MacBook Pro 1.1
>> Mac OS X 10.6.8
>> 1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo
>> 1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
>> MacBook
>> Mac OS X 10.6.7
>> 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>> 3 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
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>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:41 AM, paul smith <kullervo@...> wrote:
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>> *All* cache files are deletable. They get recreated if/when needed.
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>> PSmith
>> MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.8 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.1.1
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>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 1:36 PM, us2forever <us2forever@...> wrote:
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>>> I would like to know how to empty my cache. They mention the "system file" but there are a few caches in there and I don't want to delete the wrong files.
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Alan Fry" alanjohnfry


On 30 Jul 2012, at 04:35, James Robertson wrote:

> On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:58 PM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Isn't that only an Alias of an Application folder?
>
> No, because the contents of the first "nested" Application folder are not exactly the same as the one above it in the hierarchy. When I've tried dragging the alias to the Desktop, it's immediately replicated in its prior position.
>

Having had a look at the 'recursive App Folder.png' which you posted today I think you have two different Applications folders (one inside the other) and in addition an alias file to one of the Applications folders. It is not actually a recursive situation.

Let me try to explain what I mean.

Let us call the outermost Applications folder 'Applications_1'. The fourth item of Applications_1 is another Applications folder: let us call that Applications_2. Now Applications_1 is different from Applications_2. For instance Applications_1 includes 'FaceTime.app' which is absent in Applications_2. Similarly Applications_2 includes a folder 'Canon Utilities' which is not to be found in Applications_1.

Hence Applications_1 is a folder (containing applications) and also containing Applications_2 which in turn is a folder containing a (slightly) different list of applications. The odd thing about all this is that somehow a folder with the name 'Applications' is contained in folder of the same name. I would have expected the OS to have prevented that happening. But nevertheless it seems to be the case that you have two 'Applications' folders, both named 'Applications', one inside the other.

On top of this you clearly have inside Applications_2 an alias file (it is unmistakable in your '.png') which links to Applications_1.

I am puzzled when you say dragging the alias to the desktop results in it being replicated in its previous position. I have tried setting up Folder_1/Folder_2/AliasToFolder_1 and find I can move the alias in and out without difficulty. Be that as it may can you not simply delete the alias to Applications_1 in the normal way?

Having done that can you not simply separate the two applications folders by dragging folder 'Applications_2' out of folder 'Applications_1'?

You could check what I have said above by running 'ls -l Applications_1' and 'ls -l Applications_2' in the Terminal ('ls' and '-l' are lower case 'ells'). That will give you an unimpeachable listing of the contents of the two folders and will also show the link file for what it is.

I hope this is comprehensible and some help.

Alan Fry

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Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:52 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001


<http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9229773/Customers_grab_3M_copies_of_OS_X_Mountain_Lion_says_Apple?source=CTWNLE_nlt_os_2012-07-30>

From Computerworld:

Customers grab 3M copies of OS X Mountain Lion, says Apple

Claims the upgrade is 'the most successful release in Apple's history'

ByGregg Keizer <http://www.computerworld.com/s/author/9000163/Gregg+Keizer>
July 30, 2012 10:42 AM ET
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Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:53 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jeannie" chloe898

Thanks for the warning

Jeannie

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> Try <http://gyazsquare.com/gyazmail/>
>
> Before buying GyazMail check it out carefully. I use it for the good
> filters/rules, reliability, and because it doesn't keep mail in a big
> database but in separate folders.
>
> But note that it can't compose messages in HTML format (but can display
> incoming messages in HTML), and lacks some of the good features found in
> Apple's Mail program.
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> On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Jeannie <nikonjeannie@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hi Dan,
> > I tried to find their site to see what it is all about and if I would
> like
> > to use it, but the links given all have a 403 error code. Do you have a
> > good link for them?
> >
> > Jeannie
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net>
> wrote:
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> >> Howdy.
> >>
> >> Some group members use GyazMail (I do) and the GyazMail people have
> >> just released version 1.5.14 which has the Gatekeeper feature
> >> incorporated for use with Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion.
> >>
> >> Denver Dan
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