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Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:43 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Eric" emanmb
Noticed today that I was short 2 GB's of ram on my Mac Pro and thought oi, not again!
Sure enough 1 of my 1GB dimms is bad which came with the machine when I bought it 2nd hand. =\
This is the 2nd time ram has gone bad on this machine since the last pair went bad in September of this year.
I don't leave the machine plugged in except to use it which is all the time. I unplug it whenever I leave the house or go to bed by shutting down, turning off the Belkin surge protector, and then disconnecting it from the outlet . I don't bother putting it to sleep.
FYI, it IS possible to run a Mac Pro with only 1 functioning dimm as illustrated here.
http://tinyurl.com/b68ur2p Screenshot was done during my trouble shooting phase as I installed only 2 dimms at a time to find which ones were bad.
So this is my question.
Is it possible that one of my risers is causing this, or bad luck, or something else?
Thanks!
Sure enough 1 of my 1GB dimms is bad which came with the machine when I bought it 2nd hand. =\
This is the 2nd time ram has gone bad on this machine since the last pair went bad in September of this year.
I don't leave the machine plugged in except to use it which is all the time. I unplug it whenever I leave the house or go to bed by shutting down, turning off the Belkin surge protector, and then disconnecting it from the outlet . I don't bother putting it to sleep.
FYI, it IS possible to run a Mac Pro with only 1 functioning dimm as illustrated here.
http://tinyurl.
So this is my question.
Is it possible that one of my risers is causing this, or bad luck, or something else?
Thanks!
Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:51 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> Noticed today that I was short 2 GB's of ram on my Mac Pro and thought oi, not again!
>
> Sure enough 1 of my 1GB dimms is bad which came with the machine when I bought it 2nd hand. =\
> This is the 2nd time ram has gone bad on this machine since the last pair went bad in September of this year.
>
> I don't leave the machine plugged in except to use it which is all the time. I unplug it whenever I leave the house or go to bed by shutting down, turning off the Belkin surge protector, and then disconnecting it from the outlet . I don't bother putting it to sleep.
>
> FYI, it IS possible to run a Mac Pro with only 1 functioning dimm as illustrated here.
> http://tinyurl.com/b68ur2p Screenshot was done during my trouble shooting phase as I installed only 2 dimms at a time to find which ones were bad.
I would think that the first thing to try is to remove and re-seat all the RAM DIMMs.
If you have a high-quality electrical contact cleaner, like DeOxIt, I would clean the contacts while the DIMMs are out.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>
> Sure enough 1 of my 1GB dimms is bad which came with the machine when I bought it 2nd hand. =\
> This is the 2nd time ram has gone bad on this machine since the last pair went bad in September of this year.
>
> I don't leave the machine plugged in except to use it which is all the time. I unplug it whenever I leave the house or go to bed by shutting down, turning off the Belkin surge protector, and then disconnecting it from the outlet . I don't bother putting it to sleep.
>
> FYI, it IS possible to run a Mac Pro with only 1 functioning dimm as illustrated here.
> http://tinyurl.
I would think that the first thing to try is to remove and re-seat all the RAM DIMMs.
If you have a high-quality electrical contact cleaner, like DeOxIt, I would clean the contacts while the DIMMs are out.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:55 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Eric" emanmb
Hah! I was looking up the brand and model RAM I have and it's OEM!! Bloody Hynix brand 1gb 2rx8 pc2-6400f-555-11.
Even though there is no longer any Applecare on this machine, and it IS 2nd hand, I wonder if the DIMM can get get a warranty replacement?
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Eric" <emanmb@...> wrote:
>
> Noticed today that I was short 2 GB's of ram on my Mac Pro and thought oi, not again!
>
> Sure enough 1 of my 1GB dimms is bad which came with the machine when I bought it 2nd hand. =\
> This is the 2nd time ram has gone bad on this machine since the last pair went bad in September of this year.
>
> I don't leave the machine plugged in except to use it which is all the time. I unplug it whenever I leave the house or go to bed by shutting down, turning off the Belkin surge protector, and then disconnecting it from the outlet . I don't bother putting it to sleep.
>
> FYI, it IS possible to run a Mac Pro with only 1 functioning dimm as illustrated here.
> http://tinyurl.com/b68ur2p Screenshot was done during my trouble shooting phase as I installed only 2 dimms at a time to find which ones were bad.
>
> So this is my question.
>
> Is it possible that one of my risers is causing this, or bad luck, or something else?
>
> Thanks!
>
Even though there is no longer any Applecare on this machine, and it IS 2nd hand, I wonder if the DIMM can get get a warranty replacement?
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Noticed today that I was short 2 GB's of ram on my Mac Pro and thought oi, not again!
>
> Sure enough 1 of my 1GB dimms is bad which came with the machine when I bought it 2nd hand. =\
> This is the 2nd time ram has gone bad on this machine since the last pair went bad in September of this year.
>
> I don't leave the machine plugged in except to use it which is all the time. I unplug it whenever I leave the house or go to bed by shutting down, turning off the Belkin surge protector, and then disconnecting it from the outlet . I don't bother putting it to sleep.
>
> FYI, it IS possible to run a Mac Pro with only 1 functioning dimm as illustrated here.
> http://tinyurl.
>
> So this is my question.
>
> Is it possible that one of my risers is causing this, or bad luck, or something else?
>
> Thanks!
>
Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:18 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Eric" emanmb
Thanks Jim, you know I think I will give that type of product a whirl. Can't hurt!
Also in case anyone is considering buying a Mac and having Apple install additional sticks of "their" ram, don't!
I just found out that the warranty on their ram is a year or the length of your Applecare, which stinks, given the lifetime warranty of any other brand of RAM. I actually just got off the phone w/Apple USA to confirm this nonsense. Also I found this info on Apple's US site. (http://tinyurl.com/d8ma23j ) Trying to find Apple warranty info on their Thailand sites was impossible.
So in my case, I REALLY hope there is no other issue causing this as I will be SOL.
My question is, do I need to buy the same brand of RAM to match the DIMM that hasn't failed, of will I just be better off buying a new pair if the contact cleaner suggestion does not work? Of course the specs would match but I'm wondering if there's a finicky factor involved with the Mac Pro's and their ram.
Thanks!
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Jim Saklad <jimdoc@...> wrote:
> I would think that the first thing to try is to remove and re-seat all the RAM DIMMs.
> If you have a high-quality electrical contact cleaner, like DeOxIt, I would clean the contacts while the DIMMs are out.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@...
>
Also in case anyone is considering buying a Mac and having Apple install additional sticks of "their" ram, don't!
I just found out that the warranty on their ram is a year or the length of your Applecare, which stinks, given the lifetime warranty of any other brand of RAM. I actually just got off the phone w/Apple USA to confirm this nonsense. Also I found this info on Apple's US site. (http://tinyurl.
So in my case, I REALLY hope there is no other issue causing this as I will be SOL.
My question is, do I need to buy the same brand of RAM to match the DIMM that hasn't failed, of will I just be better off buying a new pair if the contact cleaner suggestion does not work? Of course the specs would match but I'm wondering if there's a finicky factor involved with the Mac Pro's and their ram.
Thanks!
--- In macsupportcentral@
> I would think that the first thing to try is to remove and re-seat all the RAM DIMMs.
> If you have a high-quality electrical contact cleaner, like DeOxIt, I would clean the contacts while the DIMMs are out.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@
>
Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:57 am (PST) . Posted by:
"myhandle2001" myhandle2001
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> On Nov 11, 2012, at 5:36 AM, myhandle2001 wrote:
>
> > Thanks much for your detailed response. Yep, Compuserve has been
> > around since the last ice age. I'm only still using it because I've
> > use it since it's inception in a DOS format.
>
> I hear you--I signed up with CompuServe in 1987! I canceled my
> CompuServe subscription ca. 2003, so anything I say will be
> speculative, but here goes. Does CompuServe allow you to use generic
> browser and email software, or does it have to be CompuServe-
> specific? If the latter, how important is it to you to be able to use
> CompuServe? In my case, the answer to the latter question was "not
> very." I got an account with an ISP and quickly discovered that a
> generic email program could organize and archive my emails much
> better than the CompuServe software I was using. Dissatisfaction with
> CompuServe's support also entered into it, but that's another
> discussion. I had to inform my email correspondents of my new non-
> CompuServe address, but that was the price of switching. I was
> running OS/2, not MacOS, at the time, but the principle is the same.
>
Thanks Eric, Dan, & Andrew:
Good info and suggestions from all of you. I'm going to make a change. Not sure yet to what, but I'm going to need a good contact migration program to transfer all my contacts from within Compuserve to whatever email/ browser program I end up with. Will also need a program that will globally notify my contacts of the change in my email address. I'm familiar with one or two that were Windows based, but need one now that I'm an Apple guy (and a very happy convert; should have switched years ago!) any suggestions?
Rich.
Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:11 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Rich, first you need to determine whether your CompuServe contacts can
be exported to a file.
If they can be exported, then figure out what file format that can be,
or, whether there is a choice of export file formats.
Common formats for this procedure are called Comma Separated Values,
Tab Separated Values, or perhaps V Card.
Then go the the Apple Address Book program in Mac OS X and figure out
what file formats Address Book can import.
Here's a couple of paragraphs from Address Book help in Mac OS X 10.7
Lion.
"Address Book can import contact information that you save or export
from other applications in vCard, LDAP Interchange Format (LDIF),
tab-delimited, and comma-separated value (CSV) formats.
You can export addresses in vCard format from Entourage, Outlook, and
others, and in LDIF format from Thunderbird, for example. You can
export text files in tab-delimited or CSV format from spreadsheet
applications, such as Numbers."
If you can't find a single file format that is common to both
CompuServe exporting and Address Book importing, you can then try using
a 3rd part program like SeaMonkey, Mozilla, Netscape, or other, and
import the file from CompuServe into it and then find a common file
format between that 3rd party program and Apple's Address Book program.
There are also commercial web sites that specialize in exporting,
converting, and moving contact data from one program to another.
Note on Apple's Address Book free program. Address Book comes with all
Mac OS X systems. It' is a global Address Book/Contacts list. Address
Book has a "Send Update" command for sending new contact info for
yourself to your list of contacts.
Address Book is also a "global" application. Many programs on the Mac
will use their same info/contacts. My commercial GyazMail program uses
Address Book. The ancient Eudora email program could use Address
Book. iChat, Messages, Texting, and various web browsers can use this
same program.
You can have Address Book sync via iCloud to your Address/Contacts on
iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch. You can use Address Book and the
Calendar/iCal program to create an annual and automatic birthday wish
that is emailed.
Good luck
Denver Dan
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:57:56 +0000, myhandle2001 wrote:
> Good info and suggestions from all of you. I'm going to make a
> change. Not sure yet to what, but I'm going to need a good contact
> migration program to transfer all my contacts from within Compuserve
> to whatever email/ browser program I end up with. Will also need a
> program that will globally notify my contacts of the change in my
> email address. I'm familiar with one or two that were Windows based,
> but need one now that I'm an Apple guy (and a very happy convert;
> should have switched years ago!) any suggestions?
>
> Rich.
Rich, first you need to determine whether your CompuServe contacts can
be exported to a file.
If they can be exported, then figure out what file format that can be,
or, whether there is a choice of export file formats.
Common formats for this procedure are called Comma Separated Values,
Tab Separated Values, or perhaps V Card.
Then go the the Apple Address Book program in Mac OS X and figure out
what file formats Address Book can import.
Here's a couple of paragraphs from Address Book help in Mac OS X 10.7
Lion.
"Address Book can import contact information that you save or export
from other applications in vCard, LDAP Interchange Format (LDIF),
tab-delimited, and comma-separated value (CSV) formats.
You can export addresses in vCard format from Entourage, Outlook, and
others, and in LDIF format from Thunderbird, for example. You can
export text files in tab-delimited or CSV format from spreadsheet
applications, such as Numbers."
If you can't find a single file format that is common to both
CompuServe exporting and Address Book importing, you can then try using
a 3rd part program like SeaMonkey, Mozilla, Netscape, or other, and
import the file from CompuServe into it and then find a common file
format between that 3rd party program and Apple's Address Book program.
There are also commercial web sites that specialize in exporting,
converting, and moving contact data from one program to another.
Note on Apple's Address Book free program. Address Book comes with all
Mac OS X systems. It' is a global Address Book/Contacts list. Address
Book has a "Send Update" command for sending new contact info for
yourself to your list of contacts.
Address Book is also a "global" application. Many programs on the Mac
will use their same info/contacts. My commercial GyazMail program uses
Address Book. The ancient Eudora email program could use Address
Book. iChat, Messages, Texting, and various web browsers can use this
same program.
You can have Address Book sync via iCloud to your Address/Contacts on
iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch. You can use Address Book and the
Calendar/iCal program to create an annual and automatic birthday wish
that is emailed.
Good luck
Denver Dan
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:57:56 +0000, myhandle2001 wrote:
> Good info and suggestions from all of you. I'm going to make a
> change. Not sure yet to what, but I'm going to need a good contact
> migration program to transfer all my contacts from within Compuserve
> to whatever email/ browser program I end up with. Will also need a
> program that will globally notify my contacts of the change in my
> email address. I'm familiar with one or two that were Windows based,
> but need one now that I'm an Apple guy (and a very happy convert;
> should have switched years ago!) any suggestions?
>
> Rich.
Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:58 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
Dave, you should be able to use a command in iTunes preferences to
relink to the iTunes music folder. This command can also be used when
you move this folder to a different drive.
I put my iTunes music folder on a NAS mirrored RAID drive and used this
command.
See:
iTunes>Preferences>Advanced (the gear icon).
Put a check in the Keep iTunes Media Folder organized.
Then use the Change… button next to iTunes Media folder location.
Click Change… and then navigate to the new music folder location and
select.
The procedure may take a long time and depends on speed of connection
(same drive as iTunes app? SATA 2nd drive? external USB drive? NAS via
Ethernet?) and number of files to be relinked to iTunes.
Take a think about the Copy files to iTunes Media folder when adding to
library in the same Advanced pref.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:29:38 -0800, Dave C wrote:
> I am installing a new hard drive and doing some long-overdue housecleaning.
>
> One if the things I did is move my iTunes Music folder from its
> default location. I didn't do it properly because now when I launch
> iTunes I see the generic screen with no music listed.
>
> I've searched Apple Support a bit and see that later versions (after
> 6?) the name of the iTunes Music folder was changed to iTunes Media
> folder. I tried renaming the folder but I think this just made my
> hole deeper. )-:
>
> Would someone using Snow Leopard please tell me where their iTunes
> Music (or iTunes Media) folder is located and what it's called? If
> someone has moved it to another location, step-by-step recollection
> of what you did would probably be helpful.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
Dave, you should be able to use a command in iTunes preferences to
relink to the iTunes music folder. This command can also be used when
you move this folder to a different drive.
I put my iTunes music folder on a NAS mirrored RAID drive and used this
command.
See:
iTunes>Preferences>
Put a check in the Keep iTunes Media Folder organized.
Then use the Change… button next to iTunes Media folder location.
Click Change… and then navigate to the new music folder location and
select.
The procedure may take a long time and depends on speed of connection
(same drive as iTunes app? SATA 2nd drive? external USB drive? NAS via
Ethernet?) and number of files to be relinked to iTunes.
Take a think about the Copy files to iTunes Media folder when adding to
library in the same Advanced pref.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:29:38 -0800, Dave C wrote:
> I am installing a new hard drive and doing some long-overdue housecleaning.
>
> One if the things I did is move my iTunes Music folder from its
> default location. I didn't do it properly because now when I launch
> iTunes I see the generic screen with no music listed.
>
> I've searched Apple Support a bit and see that later versions (after
> 6?) the name of the iTunes Music folder was changed to iTunes Media
> folder. I tried renaming the folder but I think this just made my
> hole deeper. )-:
>
> Would someone using Snow Leopard please tell me where their iTunes
> Music (or iTunes Media) folder is located and what it's called? If
> someone has moved it to another location, step-by-step recollection
> of what you did would probably be helpful.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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