11/16/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 9236

15 New Messages

Digest #9236
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Re: How to "un-bold" text in Mail? by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
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Re: How to "un-bold" text in Mail? by "Dane Robison" macdane1
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Re: How to "un-bold" text in Mail? by "Dane Robison" macdane1
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Re: How to "un-bold" text in Mail? by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
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Re: How to "un-bold" text in Mail? by "Alan Fry" alanjohnfry
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Re: Safari by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Moving beyond iPhoto by "Don Seal" don.96705
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Safe Mode unsafe by "Joan B. Sax, Ph.D." joan05061
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Re: Safe Mode unsafe by "keith_w" keith9600
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Re: Safe Mode unsafe by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Safe Mode unsafe by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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Re: Safe Mode unsafe by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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iCal calendar date numbers darker? by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Messages

Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:56 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 15 November 2012 17:32, Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote:

> *
> Command 'B' makes text bold.
> Command 'B' again makes text plain.
> (In other words, Command 'B' toggles Bold.)
>

I'm sorry Earle, but if you read the whole thread you will realise that
this is *not* applicable in this case.

Otto

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Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:58 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Dane Robison" macdane1

On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> On 15 November 2012 17:32, Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Command 'B' makes text bold.
>> Command 'B' again makes text plain.
>> (In other words, Command 'B' toggles Bold.)
>
> I'm sorry Earle, but if you read the whole thread you will realise that
> this is *not* applicable in this case.

Ok, my curiosity finally got the best of me. What version of Mail are we taking about? I have Mail 5.3 and just tried it myself. I copy-and-pasted a mixed (bold and non-bold) text from each of three sources: Safari, MS Word and another Mail message.

In every instance, I'm able to select all and hit cmd-b to embolden all of the text. Hitting cmd-b again toggled bold off for all of the text. Furthermore, when some or all of the text was bold and/or colored, cmd-shift-t converted the lot of it to plain text with no formatting.

What am I missing?

Dane

Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:08 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

> ...
> In every instance, I'm able to select all and hit cmd-b to embolden all of the text. Hitting cmd-b again toggled bold off for all of the text. Furthermore, when some or all of the text was bold and/or colored, cmd-shift-t converted the lot of it to plain text with no formatting.

I'm happy for you. ;-)

> What am I missing?
>
> Dane

The question is "what am *I* missing?"

It doesn't work for me.

Cheers,
Dave

Mail 4.6
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard

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Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:20 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Dane Robison" macdane1

On Nov 15, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Dave C wrote:

>> ...
>> In every instance, I'm able to select all and hit cmd-b to embolden all of the text. Hitting cmd-b again toggled bold off for all of the text. Furthermore, when some or all of the text was bold and/or colored, cmd-shift-t converted the lot of it to plain text with no formatting.
>
> I'm happy for you. ;-)
>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Dane
>
> The question is "what am *I* missing?"
>
> It doesn't work for me.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> Mail 4.6

So I wonder if this is something Apple resolved in current versions of Mail? Under older versions of Mail, I was very frustrated whenever I pasted formatted text in from elsewhere because Mail would automatically convert my message from plain to rich text, without asking or even warning. I don't believe it does anymore.

Glad Otto's suggestion worked for you!

Dane

Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:50 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Nov 15, 2012, at 12:26 AM, Dave C wrote:

> It's a simple thing to make your text bold: just press Cmd-B.
>
> But how do you reverse that? If you paste some borrowed or quoted text that has a bold word, how do you make it plain again? I tried Cmd-B but that isn't a toggle, it just makes selected text bold.

The message has to be converted to Rich Text for Command-B to work on it.

Daly

Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:00 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

It is and it doesn't.

Cheers,
Dave

2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard

-=-=-=-

> The message has to be converted to Rich Text for Command-B to work on it.
>
> Daly

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Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:35 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Alan Fry" alanjohnfry


On 15 Nov 2012, at 08:26, Dave C wrote:

> It's a simple thing to make your text bold: just press Cmd-B.
>
> But how do you reverse that? If you paste some borrowed or quoted text that has a bold word, how do you make it plain again? I tried Cmd-B but that isn't a toggle, it just makes selected text bold.
>

I too have Mail 4.6 (1085) running on OS 10.6.8 but I cannot replicate this problem. For me, on text (with some bold in it) either imported from received emails or word processors (iWord, TextEdit) the bold characters can in all cases be reset to plain text by Cmd-B.

I think there must be something amiss with your installation of Mail. Have you tried the usual things; trashing Mail's prefs and/or running ONXY or YASU?

Alan Fry

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Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:14 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Mary, I think you have some problems with basic knowledge about your
Mac OS X system.

My comments are not intended to be rude and please respond and maybe we
can figure out some things.

- What do you mean by a "Manual" reboot? It's a term I'm not familiar
with.

- "Test." I'm pretty sure that the "Test" that you refer to is NOT
your Mac OS X system and is NOT your computer. This is a common
practice for tech support when they install a different or 2nd or
troubleshooting User Account.

Therefore, on a network, you need to search for your Macintosh by it's
name and then you can access the active user account which i think is
now named Test. However, if the tech person installed a NEW user
account then the old user account may still be on your Macintosh.

To find the name of your computer open System Preferences > Sharing.
See what's shown in the "Computer Name" box. That's what other
computers will initially see on a network.

- If the OS X system is still misbehaving, then the "install over old"
system may not have been fixed by this kind of fix.

- To boot from the Mac OS X 10.7 Lion install DVD disc you have to have
made one of these DVDs yourself after you downloaded Lion.

If you made/burned a Lion DVD install disc, you can boot from it by
pressing the C key during boot, or, pressing the Option key during boot
and then picking the system disc to boot from with the arrow keys.

Lion also installs what is called a "Recovery" partition. The Recovery
partition is a separate but invisible partition on your Mac's hard
drive and this special partition has a Mac OS X system on it along with
utilities like Disk Utility.

To boot from the Recovery partition you boot while pressing the Command
and r keys. While booted in the Recovery partition you can do a
variety of things like a clean install of the OS (not install over),
you could even erase/reformat the regular partition which erases
everything and lets you start fresh.

Suggest you try the following before looking at another re-install of
the OS:

1. Boot in Safe Disk mode. Boot while pressing the Shift key. Then
after it boots restart normally.

2. Launch Disk Utility and do a Verify Disk command. You won't be
able to do the Repair Disk command unless you reboot from the Recovery
partition or from that elusive Lion OS X install DVD.

Then do the Verify and Repair Disk Permissions commands.

3. Use a utility like the free OnyX to do system cleaning, cache
cleaning, and a variety of resets.

4. boot from the Recovery partition and run the Disk Utility Verify
and Repair commands.

Good luck!

Denver Dan

On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:41:56 -0500, Mary Taylor wrote:
> I seldom use Safari but wanted to test my website in Safari and I
> cannot get it to open. I've tried to update it but updater won't
> allow it as it is up to date.
>
> Saturday evening I had the Apple Genius Bar reinstall (Lion)
> operating system because it bellyflopped earlier in the day. I
> haven't a clue why but my OS was corrupted and kept crashing on
> startup. It hung and when I did a manual reboot, bad stuff
> happened. Now Safari is behaving just like the OS was, crashing
> upon attempts to open it. Fortunately the Genius was able to just
> install the system over my existing system and not have to wipe my
> disk with all my applications and files. Though it's all backed up I
> was lucky to not have to rebuild anything. Any suggestions about
> Safari? I'm at 10.7.5 .
>
> Also when the Genius installed the OS he named it Test, so now when I
> search for the computer on the network it is called TEST. How do I
> fix that? I know it is something simple but I can't figure it out.
> I'm so out of practice troubleshooting. Seems these days the systems
> are more stable and I just can't remember how to do all the things I
> used to do to solve stupid problems. I couldn't even remember how to
> boot from my system backup.. Life is good!
> I'm so grateful I have a genius bar 20 miles away and appreciate how
> little time it takes to fix things with help.
>
> Mary Taylor

Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:48 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Don Seal" don.96705

I am also a photo hobbyist and subscribe to several Yahoo camera groups. Strange, there are lots of active camera groups, not so many active photography groups.

I use Lightroom & Photoshop as opposed to Aperture primarily because of access to training. When I lived in Silicone Valley the Junior Colleges had inexpensive adult education classes on Photoshop, Lightroom was still in beta. There were no classes on Aperture.

In the camera groups both LR and Aperture are described as pretty much equal in capabilities but a very different user interface. For small catalogs its a matter of preference. For large catalogs most agree Aperture sucks. But it takes about 100,000 images before the catalog qualifies as large.

I hope this helps.

Don at 21.9N 159.6W
2 x 2.93 GHz Early 2009 Mac Pro
OS X 10.7.4 6GB RAM
PS CS3 & LR3

On Nov 14, 2012, at 13:10, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> 1. For a hobbyist photographer who loves taking phots but mainly not in RAW format (though I am planning on buying a good digital camera), should I buy Aperture or Lightroom?
>>
>> 2. Should I avoid importing my photos into iPhoto until I decide?
>
> Absolutely.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

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Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:56 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Joan B. Sax, Ph.D." joan05061

I was having beach ball problems mentioned in a post today or yesterday, so I tried step one of Randy' Singer's RBB website suggestion and rebooted in "safe mode" (holding down the shift key after the initial tone). What happened is that the screen after a bit of revolving gear and the little progress line at the bottom went blank and the computer turned off. Now it won't reboot in any mode. I am running OS 10.8.2 on an iMac with a Mac wireless keyboard and track pad. I am wondering if the wireless keyboard could be the problem.
In any case my iMac won't start up at all (luckily I have a laptop, but my main computer is the iMac).
Help!!

Joan

Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:20 am (PST) . Posted by:

"keith_w" keith9600

I always hold down the Shift key immediately after I power on, UNTIL after
the start chime sounds, and then let it up. Is that what you did?

keith whaley

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Joan B. Sax, Ph.D. <jsax@me.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I was having beach ball problems mentioned in a post today or yesterday,
> so I tried step one of Randy' Singer's RBB website suggestion and rebooted
> in "safe mode" (holding down the shift key after the initial tone). What
> happened is that the screen after a bit of revolving gear and the little
> progress line at the bottom went blank and the computer turned off. Now it
> won't reboot in any mode. I am running OS 10.8.2 on an iMac with a Mac
> wireless keyboard and track pad. I am wondering if the wireless keyboard
> could be the problem.
> In any case my iMac won't start up at all (luckily I have a laptop, but my
> main computer is the iMac).
> Help!!
>
> Joan
>
>

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Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:25 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I was having beach ball problems mentioned in a post today or yesterday, so I tried step one of Randy' Singer's RBB website suggestion and rebooted in "safe mode" (holding down the shift key after the initial tone). What happened is that the screen after a bit of revolving gear and the little progress line at the bottom went blank and the computer turned off. Now it won't reboot in any mode. I am running OS 10.8.2 on an iMac with a Mac wireless keyboard and track pad. I am wondering if the wireless keyboard could be the problem.
> Joan

No USB keyboard to try with it?

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:39 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

The computer booting is not dependent on a working keyboard.
Controlling the computer AFTER boot is, of course.

Safe Disk boot is a trouble shooting thing that turns off stuff that
loads into memory during boot (so it can reduce conflicts), it does a
cleaning of Apple's Apple Typographic System (ATF) font caches, and it
does a disk check. Internet access will be unavailable after Safe Disk
boot (until you restart).

After a Safe Disk boot, you should restart normally.

If it won't restart then something is wrong.

Try booting into the Recovery partition. Boot and press Command r on
keyboard. After booting into Recovery partition, run the Disk Utility
Disk Repair commands.

Of course, if the wireless keyboard doesn't work replace it with a
wired keyboard, replace the batteries in the keyboard, etc.

Denver Dan

On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:56:28 -0500, Joan B. Sax, Ph.D. wrote:
> I was having beach ball problems mentioned in a post today or
> yesterday, so I tried step one of Randy' Singer's RBB website
> suggestion and rebooted in "safe mode" (holding down the shift key
> after the initial tone). What happened is that the screen after a bit
> of revolving gear and the little progress line at the bottom went
> blank and the computer turned off. Now it won't reboot in any mode. I
> am running OS 10.8.2 on an iMac with a Mac wireless keyboard and
> track pad. I am wondering if the wireless keyboard could be the
> problem.
> In any case my iMac won't start up at all (luckily I have a laptop,
> but my main computer is the iMac).
> Help!!
>
> Joan

Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:51 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> Safe Disk boot is a trouble shooting thing that turns off stuff that loads into memory during boot (so it can reduce conflicts), it does a cleaning of Apple's Apple Typographic System (ATF) font caches, and it does a disk check. Internet access will be unavailable after Safe Disk boot (until you restart).
>
> After a Safe Disk boot, you should restart normally.
>
> If it won't restart then something is wrong.

Will the iMac eve see that there is a wireless keyboard present, once it has booted into Safe Mode?

Could this absence of a keyboard cause a problem with the re-boot.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:16 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

The days of the week numbers in iCal are so faint I have a LOT of
trouble reading them easily.

Does anyone know of a way to make these numbers darker/larger/black??

Denver Dan

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