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Re: Can't edit a .docx (word 97) document without TextEdit stripping by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:24 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Earle Jones" earlejones501
On Nov 25, 12, at 7:54 PM, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.
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> On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Earle Jones wrote:
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> > Randy: Wow!
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> > Many thanks for your response.
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> My pleasure
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> I'd be very interested in hearing which program that you decide to go for and how you like it.
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Randy: I'll be happy to give you some feedback on that looooong list of portfolio management programs. It will take me a few days to try them -- I'll stay in touch.
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:46 am (PST) . Posted by:
"ennisart" ennisart
I am trying to scan wirelessly from an iMac OS10.6. Using the Epson Scan Settings, I have added the printer's IP address, but the printer doesn't appear as a choice in Select Scanner.
I have another iMac OS10.6 on the same wireless network and all this works fine there.
Hope this is not off topic.
Thanks.
John
I have another iMac OS10.6 on the same wireless network and all this works fine there.
Hope this is not off topic.
Thanks.
John
Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:58 am (PST) . Posted by:
"John Engberg" mrbyte
Have you tried to add the scanner in the Printer & Scanner Preference pane in System Preferences. I think that is an option in 10.6 (I'm running 10.8.2), but I can't remember.
John Engberg
On Nov 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, ennisart <john@john-ennis.com > wrote:
> I am trying to scan wirelessly from an iMac OS10.6. Using the Epson Scan Settings, I have added the printer's IP address, but the printer doesn't appear as a choice in Select Scanner.
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> I have another iMac OS10.6 on the same wireless network and all this works fine there.
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> Thanks.
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> John
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On Nov 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, ennisart <john@john-ennis.
> I am trying to scan wirelessly from an iMac OS10.6. Using the Epson Scan Settings, I have added the printer's IP address, but the printer doesn't appear as a choice in Select Scanner.
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> I have another iMac OS10.6 on the same wireless network and all this works fine there.
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:01 am (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Fred,
What several of us are trying to tell you is that what you are asking is very much like asking to play a 4- or 8-track tape on a DVD player. If the rubber rollers have not melted to the tape, the magnetic tape might have degauzed.
Whether the recovery program works with your new hardware has very little or nothing to do if it will read the floppies. As Tod said, "Floppy failure is generally at the "hardware" level.", meaning the information is lost on the floppy. The only media with a worse failure rate than floppies were Zip discs.
You even say that floppies that worked last year won't work now. The hardware, the floppies are failing.
Brent
On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:18 AM, FredPolka wrote:
Thank You for the comments and suggestions so far.
The iMac G5 that I have the floppy disk connected to runs OS 10.4.11. It also has a version of Classic 9. I have 2 newer computers that I now do my recording and arranging on.
The one recovery program that I downloaded yesterday, said that it was compatibile with 10.3.9 and above, but isn't.
I found the comment about the 400k and 800k disks interesting. That might be the case, but I don't think so. Some disks that used to open, even last year, won't now.
(Be glad I'm not asking for a 8-track player)
Fred Ziwich
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What several of us are trying to tell you is that what you are asking is very much like asking to play a 4- or 8-track tape on a DVD player. If the rubber rollers have not melted to the tape, the magnetic tape might have degauzed.
Whether the recovery program works with your new hardware has very little or nothing to do if it will read the floppies. As Tod said, "Floppy failure is generally at the "hardware" level.", meaning the information is lost on the floppy. The only media with a worse failure rate than floppies were Zip discs.
You even say that floppies that worked last year won't work now. The hardware, the floppies are failing.
Brent
On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:18 AM, FredPolka wrote:
Thank You for the comments and suggestions so far.
The iMac G5 that I have the floppy disk connected to runs OS 10.4.11. It also has a version of Classic 9. I have 2 newer computers that I now do my recording and arranging on.
The one recovery program that I downloaded yesterday, said that it was compatibile with 10.3.9 and above, but isn't.
I found the comment about the 400k and 800k disks interesting. That might be the case, but I don't think so. Some disks that used to open, even last year, won't now.
(Be glad I'm not asking for a 8-track player)
Fred Ziwich
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:10 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
I'm somewhat puzzled by all this. If you have any valuable data stored on
technology that you know to be obsolescent or obsolete, you *must* copy it
to something current as soon as you can.
If the floppies were readable last year, why were they not copied then (or
5/10/15 years ago)?
In any case, floppies were never meant as an archive format. They were
cheap flimsy things with a limited life.
(Apologies if I've missed something here.)
Otto
On 28 November 2012 19:01, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> Fred,
>
> What several of us are trying to tell you is that what you are asking is
> very much like asking to play a 4- or 8-track tape on a DVD player. If the
> rubber rollers have not melted to the tape, the magnetic tape might have
> degauzed.
>
> Whether the recovery program works with your new hardware has very little
> or nothing to do if it will read the floppies. As Tod said, "Floppy failure
> is generally at the "hardware" level.", meaning the information is lost on
> the floppy. The only media with a worse failure rate than floppies were Zip
> discs.
>
> You even say that floppies that worked last year won't work now. The
> hardware, the floppies are failing.
>
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technology that you know to be obsolescent or obsolete, you *must* copy it
to something current as soon as you can.
If the floppies were readable last year, why were they not copied then (or
5/10/15 years ago)?
In any case, floppies were never meant as an archive format. They were
cheap flimsy things with a limited life.
(Apologies if I've missed something here.)
Otto
On 28 November 2012 19:01, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
> Fred,
>
> What several of us are trying to tell you is that what you are asking is
> very much like asking to play a 4- or 8-track tape on a DVD player. If the
> rubber rollers have not melted to the tape, the magnetic tape might have
> degauzed.
>
> Whether the recovery program works with your new hardware has very little
> or nothing to do if it will read the floppies. As Tod said, "Floppy failure
> is generally at the "hardware" level.", meaning the information is lost on
> the floppy. The only media with a worse failure rate than floppies were Zip
> discs.
>
> You even say that floppies that worked last year won't work now. The
> hardware, the floppies are failing.
>
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:57 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:18 AM, FredPolka wrote:
>
>
> Thank You for the comments and suggestions so far.
> The iMac G5 that I have the floppy disk connected to runs OS 10.4.11. It also has a version of Classic 9. I have 2 newer computers that I now do my recording and arranging on.
> The one recovery program that I downloaded yesterday, said that it was compatibile with 10.3.9 and above, but isn't.
> I found the comment about the 400k and 800k disks interesting. That might be the case, but I don't think so. Some disks that used to open, even last year, won't now.
I think you need to hire a service, or spend a few hundred dollars buying vintage Macs on eBay to move from 400K to 800K to 1600K and up to what you can use currently.
Daly
Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:10 am (PST) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
A quick web search for hyperwords or liquidwordsfree will tell you the the developer of this browser plugin has abandoned this plug in. I think it is time to delete it from you Mac if it is causing a console entry this often. You will start to have problems with not enough space on the HD.
On Nov 28, 2012, at 3:48 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
Hi all! I've been getting the following two messages in the console every
few seconds:
11/28/12 12:35:26.003 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[235]:
(com.hyperwords.liquidwordsfree.loginitemhelper[1174]) Exited with code: 1
11/28/12 12:35:26.003 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[235]:
(com.hyperwords.liquidwordsfree.loginitemhelper) Throttling respawn: Will
start in 10 seconds
I looked in ~/Library/LaunchAgents, /Library/LaunchAgents,
/Library/LaunchDaemons, and /Library/StartupItems as well as my Login Items
in the prefpane, but don't see anything that looks relevant. I do have
Liquid installed, but quitting it doesn't seem to make a difference, and I
can't find anything in my processes that looks like a helper daemon or
something.
Any idea what's going on?
Mucho thanko!
Michael
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On Nov 28, 2012, at 3:48 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
Hi all! I've been getting the following two messages in the console every
few seconds:
11/28/12 12:35:26.003 PM com.apple.launchd.
(com.hyperwords.
11/28/12 12:35:26.003 PM com.apple.launchd.
(com.hyperwords.
start in 10 seconds
I looked in ~/Library/LaunchAge
/Library/LaunchDaem
in the prefpane, but don't see anything that looks relevant. I do have
Liquid installed, but quitting it doesn't seem to make a difference, and I
can't find anything in my processes that looks like a helper daemon or
something.
Any idea what's going on?
Mucho thanko!
Michael
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:26 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Rob H" artstarob
Hi,
I just bought a used iMac running Snow Leopard and has Photoshop CS 5 on it. Photoshop functions are different from the CS 2 I am used to (Yeah,I know - where have I been?)
I need insight on the following three things:
I can only open a single image at a time. When I select a new one, the older one closes.The menu bar is currently set to Standared View.
Folders do not stay open when I select an image file from it. I have to go back and open the folder again for additional files.
When I usehe 'open' menu feature to get a file, the 'Close' button at top of the folder is greyed out. I can only close the folder by the 'Cancel' button at bottom.
How do I change these settings?
Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.
Rob
I just bought a used iMac running Snow Leopard and has Photoshop CS 5 on it. Photoshop functions are different from the CS 2 I am used to (Yeah,I know - where have I been?)
I need insight on the following three things:
I can only open a single image at a time. When I select a new one, the older one closes.The menu bar is currently set to Standared View.
Folders do not stay open when I select an image file from it. I have to go back and open the folder again for additional files.
When I usehe 'open' menu feature to get a file, the 'Close' button at top of the folder is greyed out. I can only close the folder by the 'Cancel' button at bottom.
How do I change these settings?
Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.
Rob
Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:33 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
Are u saying this only happens while running CS5, and that you are targeting the CS5 Menus?
Or is this the Snow Leopard Folder/Finder Open/Close Menu?
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "Rob H" <artstar@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a used iMac running Snow Leopard and has Photoshop CS 5 on it. Photoshop functions are different from the CS 2 I am used to (Yeah,I know - where have I been?)
>
>
> I need insight on the following three things:
>
> I can only open a single image at a time. When I select a new one, the older one closes.The menu bar is currently set to Standared View.
>
> Folders do not stay open when I select an image file from it. I have to go back and open the folder again for additional files.
>
> When I usehe 'open' menu feature to get a file, the 'Close' button at top of the folder is greyed out. I can only close the folder by the 'Cancel' button at bottom.
>
> How do I change these settings?
>
> Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Rob
>
Or is this the Snow Leopard Folder/Finder Open/Close Menu?
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a used iMac running Snow Leopard and has Photoshop CS 5 on it. Photoshop functions are different from the CS 2 I am used to (Yeah,I know - where have I been?)
>
>
> I need insight on the following three things:
>
> I can only open a single image at a time. When I select a new one, the older one closes.The menu bar is currently set to Standared View.
>
> Folders do not stay open when I select an image file from it. I have to go back and open the folder again for additional files.
>
> When I usehe 'open' menu feature to get a file, the 'Close' button at top of the folder is greyed out. I can only close the folder by the 'Cancel' button at bottom.
>
> How do I change these settings?
>
> Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Rob
>
Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:00 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
I re-installed SL and all is well.
Thanks,
Dave
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
-=-=-=-
> This looks like it can help.
>
> http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57355404-263/fixing-quick-look-issues-in-os-x/
>
> Cheers,
> tod
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Thanks,
Dave
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
-=-=-=-
> This looks like it can help.
>
> http://reviews.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:06 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Pete Nalda" lpnalda
I want to be able to edit and save a document that was created in Word '97. TextEdit apparently strips all the Special trimming (which is some sort of html I'm guessing). Anyone have a better idea for an app to use? Thanks in advance.
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:49 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
On Nov 28, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> I want to be able to edit and save a document that was created in Word '97. TextEdit apparently strips all the Special trimming (which is some sort of html I'm guessing). Anyone have a better idea for an app to use? Thanks in advance.
While other programs have gotten better at this, there is still nothing other than Microsoft Word itself that will reliably display Word format documents with complex formatting perfectly.
In fact, there is little point in going around trying other programs (that is, other than a copy of Word itself), since, as far as I can ascertain, they all use the same open source translators. Not even Apple writes its own Word translators.
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:54 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Pete Nalda" lpnalda
So would word for Mac do it?
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On Nov 28, 2012, at 10:49 PM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.com > wrote:
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> On Nov 28, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
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>> I want to be able to edit and save a document that was created in Word '97. TextEdit apparently strips all the Special trimming (which is some sort of html I'm guessing). Anyone have a better idea for an app to use? Thanks in advance.
>
> While other programs have gotten better at this, there is still nothing other than Microsoft Word itself that will reliably display Word format documents with complex formatting perfectly.
>
> In fact, there is little point in going around trying other programs (that is, other than a copy of Word itself), since, as far as I can ascertain, they all use the same open source translators. Not even Apple writes its own Word translators.
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On Nov 28, 2012, at 10:49 PM, "Randy B. Singer" <randy@macattorney.
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> On Nov 28, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
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>> I want to be able to edit and save a document that was created in Word '97. TextEdit apparently strips all the Special trimming (which is some sort of html I'm guessing). Anyone have a better idea for an app to use? Thanks in advance.
>
> While other programs have gotten better at this, there is still nothing other than Microsoft Word itself that will reliably display Word format documents with complex formatting perfectly.
>
> In fact, there is little point in going around trying other programs (that is, other than a copy of Word itself), since, as far as I can ascertain, they all use the same open source translators. Not even Apple writes its own Word translators.
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:37 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Don Seal" don.96705
Even MS Word can be tricky when opening very old documents. The two ways to open a word document don't work identically.
I have had a few very old documents that would not open normally. The chronology of these documents is: On a PC backed up to floppy, several years later reloaded to PC hard disk, then a couple years later backed up to PC CD. Then the CD loaded to a Mac Pro.
I usually open word documents just by clicking on them. Its been a while but the error message for some of these old documents says something about the document format is no longer supported.
If I open Word, then select File/Open/ and drill down to the document most of the "unsupported documents" open without problems.
I don't remember where I got this tip but if you get Word try it.
Don at 21.9N 159.6W
Early 2009 Mac Pro
2 x 2.93 GHz Quad Core Xeon, 6GB RAM
OS X 10.7.5
p.s.
My Mac Pro has not been working properly, I removed two of four HDDs for safety. Logic board and power supply were replaced under Apple Care 3 weeks ago. Just tried to put the two HDDs back in. Bay 2 on the new board is dead. Local Mac dealer won't touch a logic board replacement.
With a replacement logic board the Mac Pro has no machine readable serial number. Some programs, like the Crucial memory advisor, can't identify your exact machine configuration.
You just can't win!
On Nov 28, 2012, at 18:54, Pete Nalda wrote:
> So would word for Mac do it?
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> Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P. (Pete) Nalda
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I have had a few very old documents that would not open normally. The chronology of these documents is: On a PC backed up to floppy, several years later reloaded to PC hard disk, then a couple years later backed up to PC CD. Then the CD loaded to a Mac Pro.
I usually open word documents just by clicking on them. Its been a while but the error message for some of these old documents says something about the document format is no longer supported.
If I open Word, then select File/Open/ and drill down to the document most of the "unsupported documents" open without problems.
I don't remember where I got this tip but if you get Word try it.
Don at 21.9N 159.6W
Early 2009 Mac Pro
2 x 2.93 GHz Quad Core Xeon, 6GB RAM
OS X 10.7.5
p.s.
My Mac Pro has not been working properly, I removed two of four HDDs for safety. Logic board and power supply were replaced under Apple Care 3 weeks ago. Just tried to put the two HDDs back in. Bay 2 on the new board is dead. Local Mac dealer won't touch a logic board replacement.
With a replacement logic board the Mac Pro has no machine readable serial number. Some programs, like the Crucial memory advisor, can't identify your exact machine configuration.
You just can't win!
On Nov 28, 2012, at 18:54, Pete Nalda wrote:
> So would word for Mac do it?
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> Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P. (Pete) Nalda
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:51 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"HAL9000" jrswebhome
I saw an appeal for retouching Sandy pictures on a TRUSTED Professional Photoshop site and volunteered information about myself including my cell phone number. Thank God no credit info was requested. This afternoon I learned it is probably a fake site.
http://www.careforsandy.org/restoration-specialists
Apparently another group has determined it is a FAKE WEB SITE looking for personal info.
http://db.aa419.org/fakebanksview.php?key=69044
FYI.
http://www.carefors
Apparently another group has determined it is a FAKE WEB SITE looking for personal info.
http://db.aa419.
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