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Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:27 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Bill Boulware" boulware0224
Same here on all computers, TVs and cable boxes also plug cordless phone based into the in case of power loss
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On Nov 17, 2012, at 11:17, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Joan, glad things are back to working.
>
> However, do you have a working UPS battery box that your iMac is
> plugged in to?
>
> If not, I really recommend it.
>
> If you find yourself near a big computer store, or a computer chain
> store like Micro Center, the often carry these in stacks by the front
> door as a loss leader at good prices.
>
> If you do get one or already have a UPS box, then be sure to test the
> battery to see if it needs replacing. They all do are several years.
> Then check to see that your computer is plugged into the battery
> protected socket on the UPS and not the surge only socket (if it has
> both of these kinds of sockets - some do and some do not).
>
> A UPS might have prevented the problem you experienced. I have 5 in my
> house and use them on expensive equipment.
>
> good luck!
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:28:38 +0000, joan05061 wrote:
> > All's well that ends well. I have erased the hard drive, reinstalled
> > Mountain Lion, restored my files from the clone and am back in
> > business. Thanks to the help from people on this list, I have save
> > myself four hours of my time (up to Burlington, Vermont, to have the
> > problem diagnosed, back home again for a few days while waiting for
> > the diagnosis, back again to retrieve the computer, and back home) as
> > well as the expense in gas, to say nothing of expenses for repair
> > (Apple Care for this computer had expired). All of these savings
> > would not be possible but for the kindness of people on this list.
> > FYI, though booting in safe mode didn't work, booting in recovery
> > mode (Command-R) did work, and Disk Utility gave me a bad diagnosis
> > for the hard drive, namely that it couldn't repair it. Hence the
> > erase and reinstall.
> >
> > I'll sleep a lot better tonight. Buona notte.
> >
> > Joan
>
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On Nov 17, 2012, at 11:17, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Howdy.
>
> Joan, glad things are back to working.
>
> However, do you have a working UPS battery box that your iMac is
> plugged in to?
>
> If not, I really recommend it.
>
> If you find yourself near a big computer store, or a computer chain
> store like Micro Center, the often carry these in stacks by the front
> door as a loss leader at good prices.
>
> If you do get one or already have a UPS box, then be sure to test the
> battery to see if it needs replacing. They all do are several years.
> Then check to see that your computer is plugged into the battery
> protected socket on the UPS and not the surge only socket (if it has
> both of these kinds of sockets - some do and some do not).
>
> A UPS might have prevented the problem you experienced. I have 5 in my
> house and use them on expensive equipment.
>
> good luck!
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:28:38 +0000, joan05061 wrote:
> > All's well that ends well. I have erased the hard drive, reinstalled
> > Mountain Lion, restored my files from the clone and am back in
> > business. Thanks to the help from people on this list, I have save
> > myself four hours of my time (up to Burlington, Vermont, to have the
> > problem diagnosed, back home again for a few days while waiting for
> > the diagnosis, back again to retrieve the computer, and back home) as
> > well as the expense in gas, to say nothing of expenses for repair
> > (Apple Care for this computer had expired). All of these savings
> > would not be possible but for the kindness of people on this list.
> > FYI, though booting in safe mode didn't work, booting in recovery
> > mode (Command-R) did work, and Disk Utility gave me a bad diagnosis
> > for the hard drive, namely that it couldn't repair it. Hence the
> > erase and reinstall.
> >
> > I'll sleep a lot better tonight. Buona notte.
> >
> > Joan
>
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Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:01 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"joan05061" joan05061
Dan, what is a UPS battery box? I looked it up on Micro Center's website and the search didn't come up with anything. I am actually going to be in Boston for a day this week and would like to find the item if I know what it is. What would a battery box do for me? Do you think my problem with the computer had to do with the power to it? It always started, it just didn't finish booting and shut down before the safe mode was complete, though it did boot up in recovery mode as you suggested. Does it make any difference that we have a generator (Vermont winters, and squirrels in the summer, don't you know).
Joan in Vermont where the wood-burning stoves are in full operation.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Joan, glad things are back to working.
>
> However, do you have a working UPS battery box that your iMac is
> plugged in to?
>
> If not, I really recommend it.
>
> If you find yourself near a big computer store, or a computer chain
> store like Micro Center, the often carry these in stacks by the front
> door as a loss leader at good prices.
>
> If you do get one or already have a UPS box, then be sure to test the
> battery to see if it needs replacing. They all do are several years.
> Then check to see that your computer is plugged into the battery
> protected socket on the UPS and not the surge only socket (if it has
> both of these kinds of sockets - some do and some do not).
>
> A UPS might have prevented the problem you experienced. I have 5 in my
> house and use them on expensive equipment.
>
> good luck!
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:28:38 +0000, joan05061 wrote:
> > All's well that ends well. I have erased the hard drive, reinstalled
> > Mountain Lion, restored my files from the clone and am back in
> > business. Thanks to the help from people on this list, I have save
> > myself four hours of my time (up to Burlington, Vermont, to have the
> > problem diagnosed, back home again for a few days while waiting for
> > the diagnosis, back again to retrieve the computer, and back home) as
> > well as the expense in gas, to say nothing of expenses for repair
> > (Apple Care for this computer had expired). All of these savings
> > would not be possible but for the kindness of people on this list.
> > FYI, though booting in safe mode didn't work, booting in recovery
> > mode (Command-R) did work, and Disk Utility gave me a bad diagnosis
> > for the hard drive, namely that it couldn't repair it. Hence the
> > erase and reinstall.
> >
> > I'll sleep a lot better tonight. Buona notte.
> >
> > Joan
>
Joan in Vermont where the wood-burning stoves are in full operation.
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Howdy.
>
> Joan, glad things are back to working.
>
> However, do you have a working UPS battery box that your iMac is
> plugged in to?
>
> If not, I really recommend it.
>
> If you find yourself near a big computer store, or a computer chain
> store like Micro Center, the often carry these in stacks by the front
> door as a loss leader at good prices.
>
> If you do get one or already have a UPS box, then be sure to test the
> battery to see if it needs replacing. They all do are several years.
> Then check to see that your computer is plugged into the battery
> protected socket on the UPS and not the surge only socket (if it has
> both of these kinds of sockets - some do and some do not).
>
> A UPS might have prevented the problem you experienced. I have 5 in my
> house and use them on expensive equipment.
>
> good luck!
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:28:38 +0000, joan05061 wrote:
> > All's well that ends well. I have erased the hard drive, reinstalled
> > Mountain Lion, restored my files from the clone and am back in
> > business. Thanks to the help from people on this list, I have save
> > myself four hours of my time (up to Burlington, Vermont, to have the
> > problem diagnosed, back home again for a few days while waiting for
> > the diagnosis, back again to retrieve the computer, and back home) as
> > well as the expense in gas, to say nothing of expenses for repair
> > (Apple Care for this computer had expired). All of these savings
> > would not be possible but for the kindness of people on this list.
> > FYI, though booting in safe mode didn't work, booting in recovery
> > mode (Command-R) did work, and Disk Utility gave me a bad diagnosis
> > for the hard drive, namely that it couldn't repair it. Hence the
> > erase and reinstall.
> >
> > I'll sleep a lot better tonight. Buona notte.
> >
> > Joan
>
Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:32 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
UPS means Uninterruptible Power Supply.
It's a box with a big rechargeable battery in it and with several
sockets.
The UPS has special circuitry. You plug the UPS into a wall outlet and
you plug your computer, monitor, external HD, even a router, into the
UPS.
When the power goes out the circuitry switches to battery instantly and
your computer keeps running.
The bigger the battery the longer you can run on battery power.
APC and PowerConversion are two popular companies.
The UPS is good because it reduces the chances of hardware failure and
reduces the chances of file corruption when there are power surges,
power outages. AND when a Hurricane Sandy comes along you can charge
your iPhone with it when the power goes out. You could even run a
light bulb with one.
For an iMac and a router and one external hard drive, a UPS costing
about $100 would do fine.
I'll send you a picture and link directly.
Denver Dan
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:01:23 +0000, joan05061 wrote:
> Dan, what is a UPS battery box? I looked it up on Micro Center's
> website and the search didn't come up with anything. I am actually
> going to be in Boston for a day this week and would like to find the
> item if I know what it is. What would a battery box do for me? Do you
> think my problem with the computer had to do with the power to it? It
> always started, it just didn't finish booting and shut down before
> the safe mode was complete, though it did boot up in recovery mode as
> you suggested. Does it make any difference that we have a generator
> (Vermont winters, and squirrels in the summer, don't you know).
>
> Joan in Vermont where the wood-burning stoves are in full operation.
UPS means Uninterruptible Power Supply.
It's a box with a big rechargeable battery in it and with several
sockets.
The UPS has special circuitry. You plug the UPS into a wall outlet and
you plug your computer, monitor, external HD, even a router, into the
UPS.
When the power goes out the circuitry switches to battery instantly and
your computer keeps running.
The bigger the battery the longer you can run on battery power.
APC and PowerConversion are two popular companies.
The UPS is good because it reduces the chances of hardware failure and
reduces the chances of file corruption when there are power surges,
power outages. AND when a Hurricane Sandy comes along you can charge
your iPhone with it when the power goes out. You could even run a
light bulb with one.
For an iMac and a router and one external hard drive, a UPS costing
about $100 would do fine.
I'll send you a picture and link directly.
Denver Dan
On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:01:23 +0000, joan05061 wrote:
> Dan, what is a UPS battery box? I looked it up on Micro Center's
> website and the search didn't come up with anything. I am actually
> going to be in Boston for a day this week and would like to find the
> item if I know what it is. What would a battery box do for me? Do you
> think my problem with the computer had to do with the power to it? It
> always started, it just didn't finish booting and shut down before
> the safe mode was complete, though it did boot up in recovery mode as
> you suggested. Does it make any difference that we have a generator
> (Vermont winters, and squirrels in the summer, don't you know).
>
> Joan in Vermont where the wood-burning stoves are in full operation.
Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:34 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"joan05061" joan05061
Grazie tante, ancora una volta.
joan
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> UPS means Uninterruptible Power Supply.
>
> It's a box with a big rechargeable battery in it and with several
> sockets.
>
> The UPS has special circuitry. You plug the UPS into a wall outlet and
> you plug your computer, monitor, external HD, even a router, into the
> UPS.
>
> When the power goes out the circuitry switches to battery instantly and
> your computer keeps running.
>
> The bigger the battery the longer you can run on battery power.
>
> APC and PowerConversion are two popular companies.
>
> The UPS is good because it reduces the chances of hardware failure and
> reduces the chances of file corruption when there are power surges,
> power outages. AND when a Hurricane Sandy comes along you can charge
> your iPhone with it when the power goes out. You could even run a
> light bulb with one.
>
> For an iMac and a router and one external hard drive, a UPS costing
> about $100 would do fine.
>
> I'll send you a picture and link directly.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:01:23 +0000, joan05061 wrote:
> > Dan, what is a UPS battery box? I looked it up on Micro Center's
> > website and the search didn't come up with anything. I am actually
> > going to be in Boston for a day this week and would like to find the
> > item if I know what it is. What would a battery box do for me? Do you
> > think my problem with the computer had to do with the power to it? It
> > always started, it just didn't finish booting and shut down before
> > the safe mode was complete, though it did boot up in recovery mode as
> > you suggested. Does it make any difference that we have a generator
> > (Vermont winters, and squirrels in the summer, don't you know).
> >
> > Joan in Vermont where the wood-burning stoves are in full operation.
>
joan
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Howdy.
>
> UPS means Uninterruptible Power Supply.
>
> It's a box with a big rechargeable battery in it and with several
> sockets.
>
> The UPS has special circuitry. You plug the UPS into a wall outlet and
> you plug your computer, monitor, external HD, even a router, into the
> UPS.
>
> When the power goes out the circuitry switches to battery instantly and
> your computer keeps running.
>
> The bigger the battery the longer you can run on battery power.
>
> APC and PowerConversion are two popular companies.
>
> The UPS is good because it reduces the chances of hardware failure and
> reduces the chances of file corruption when there are power surges,
> power outages. AND when a Hurricane Sandy comes along you can charge
> your iPhone with it when the power goes out. You could even run a
> light bulb with one.
>
> For an iMac and a router and one external hard drive, a UPS costing
> about $100 would do fine.
>
> I'll send you a picture and link directly.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:01:23 +0000, joan05061 wrote:
> > Dan, what is a UPS battery box? I looked it up on Micro Center's
> > website and the search didn't come up with anything. I am actually
> > going to be in Boston for a day this week and would like to find the
> > item if I know what it is. What would a battery box do for me? Do you
> > think my problem with the computer had to do with the power to it? It
> > always started, it just didn't finish booting and shut down before
> > the safe mode was complete, though it did boot up in recovery mode as
> > you suggested. Does it make any difference that we have a generator
> > (Vermont winters, and squirrels in the summer, don't you know).
> >
> > Joan in Vermont where the wood-burning stoves are in full operation.
>
Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:18 am (PST) . Posted by:
"James Robertson" jamesrob328i
I have a 2008 vintage Dual 2.8 GHz Quad Core Mac Pro with 6 GB RAM. The 4 hard drive bays are filled with various 3.5 inch SATA drives. I have no idea why, and Activity Monitor doesn't suggest the reason why, it's gradually become slower (simple apps bounce a half-dozen times before launching, etc.) over the years. None of the drives is close to full; I don't have page-outs anywhere close to the number of page-ins, even after many days between boots; my system and installed software are all up to date.
The new iMacs look as though they'd meet my needs, but I'd like to keep my desk neat by consolidating the current drives into either one external enclosure or a stackable external enclosure set. I have no idea whether I should use eSata, USB3, or whether there's any sense in considering a Thunderbolt interface. My understanding of the last choice is that it makes sense only if the drive mechanism itself has a Thunderbolt interface, but I'm not certain even of that. The drives are currently used for twice-weekly SuperDuper cloning, my Time Machine backup, my Fusion VM files (including scheduled snapshots), and my iPhoto library.
I know that the upcoming 27" iMac maxes out with a very fast Quad-Core i7, and I know that for the things I do, my retina display MacBook Pro is already faster than my Mac Pro (I assume because of the SSD in the laptop and newer Graphics Controller).
I don't want to end up with a nest of cables plugged into the back of a new iMac.
Is there an external enclosure which can house my four 3.5 inch SATA drives and connect to the iMac via USB3, eSata, or Thunderbolt and maximize read/write throughput so that the 4 drives can each communicate with the iMac independently of one another?
Or, should I be hoping my aging Mac Pro lasts until the promised 2013 "great things for the Mac Pro" suggested by Apple's CEO earlier this year?
The new iMacs look as though they'd meet my needs, but I'd like to keep my desk neat by consolidating the current drives into either one external enclosure or a stackable external enclosure set. I have no idea whether I should use eSata, USB3, or whether there's any sense in considering a Thunderbolt interface. My understanding of the last choice is that it makes sense only if the drive mechanism itself has a Thunderbolt interface, but I'm not certain even of that. The drives are currently used for twice-weekly SuperDuper cloning, my Time Machine backup, my Fusion VM files (including scheduled snapshots), and my iPhoto library.
I know that the upcoming 27" iMac maxes out with a very fast Quad-Core i7, and I know that for the things I do, my retina display MacBook Pro is already faster than my Mac Pro (I assume because of the SSD in the laptop and newer Graphics Controller).
I don't want to end up with a nest of cables plugged into the back of a new iMac.
Is there an external enclosure which can house my four 3.5 inch SATA drives and connect to the iMac via USB3, eSata, or Thunderbolt and maximize read/write throughput so that the 4 drives can each communicate with the iMac independently of one another?
Or, should I be hoping my aging Mac Pro lasts until the promised 2013 "great things for the Mac Pro" suggested by Apple's CEO earlier this year?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:16 am (PST) . Posted by:
"James I Fraser" jifraser2075
Hello All,
Please does anyone know how to set Eudora's Drawer so that it opens
on the LHS, independent of where it is on one or two monitors? Got me
stumped so far :)
Cheers,
James
MacBook Pro 10.6.8, 8GB 750GB
Please does anyone know how to set Eudora's Drawer so that it opens
on the LHS, independent of where it is on one or two monitors? Got me
stumped so far :)
Cheers,
James
MacBook Pro 10.6.8, 8GB 750GB
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