On 7 January 2013 18:06, Daly Jessup jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:

>
> Wow, I couldn't find any of those files, but of course I'm running 10.7.5
> and he's running 10.4.x. I've given it all its software updates, but it is
> still 10.4.x. I suggested that he could update to Snow Leopard, but that
> would require quadrupling his RAM and he was just not interested.
>
> I will call him today to see if he is up for spending the time to
> implement this fix (copy all his Network settings, then delete the files).
> That was certainly a great reference you found for the exact problem he was
> experiencing.
>
> On the other hand, if I stay out of Network preferences, maybe he will be
> okay? He's already using wireless at home. When he gets to New York,
> shouldn't he be able to select his hosts' network from the menu bar, and be
> prompted for a password, without resorting to the Network pref pane?
>
> If so, that would be perfect, because I don't think he's interested in
> doing much messing with his computer today as he's getting ready for a big
> trip and is tired. He's 91 years old and feeling it.
>

He should not need to access Preferences > Network. The "new" network
should appear in Menu > Network as you suggest, but if not it will be
because it's hidden, in which case he'll need to use the Use Other Network
option and type in the name (and password, of course).

Otto

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Re: "Another application has changed your network preferences"

Mon Jan 7, 2013 12:19 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup

On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

>
> He should not need to access Preferences > Network. The "new" network
> should appear in Menu > Network as you suggest, but if not it will be
> because it's hidden, in which case he'll need to use the Use Other Network
> option and type in the name (and password, of course).

Okay, wonderful. Thanks. That's what I thought, but I have a really bad cold and can't go over there and also can't really think too well at the moment. I'm sure it will be fine. I appreciate the input.

Daly

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Re: The next iPhone will have more colors

Mon Jan 7, 2013 12:17 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Bill Boy" billmboy

i'll believe it when I see it.

The world is full of rumors on the next Apple product

On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Paul Smith wrote:

> Some folks (including me) do not use any cases for their iPhones.

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3.1 Re: Word Processing

Mon Jan 7, 2013 2:56 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger

On Jan 7, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Chris Jones wrote:

> Note though not even MS itself can get this perfect. I've seen just as
> many examples of issues when a document written with MS office on a mac
> is opened with MS office on a PC

This is mainly because many MS Word users don't know how to use the program. For instance, Microsoft includes a huge number of fonts with every version of Office. This isn't to be nice, it is so that any Word document opened in any version of Word will format identically. But many users don't even think about this and use other fonts, which almost guarantees that documents sent cross-platform won't render identically.

Microsoft goes out of their way to assure cross-platform compatibility, and if one knows how to use the program, all documents will render the same no matter what platform they are on. I send documents with very complex formatting to PC users all the time, and they render perfectly.

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Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
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3.2 Re: Word Processing

Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:32 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus

On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> > Note though not even MS itself can get this perfect. I've seen just as
> > many examples of issues when a document written with MS office on a mac
> > is opened with MS office on a PC
>
> This is mainly because many MS Word users don't know how to use the program. For instance, Microsoft includes a huge number of fonts with every version of Office. This isn't to be nice, it is so that any Word document opened in any version of Word will format identically. But many users don't even think about this and use other fonts, which almost guarantees that documents sent cross-platform won't render identically.
>
>
Let me put in my two cents here. Not just cross platform but even cross machine. Unless the hard drive of one Mac is a clone of the others there probably are different collections of fonts. Use a font that is not also in the receiving machine's collection and things can go a little haywire. The way around that, assuming you don't care about the receiver being able to edit the file, is to save it as a PDF. The term means "portable document format," and it was created for exactly that reason.

> Microsoft goes out of their way to assure cross-platform compatibility, and if one knows how to use the program, all documents will render the same no matter what platform they are on. I send documents with very complex formatting to PC users all the time, and they render perfectly.
>

Just do make sure to use the right cadre of fonts, those provided by Micro$oft or ones you are SURE are VERY standard. Frankly, even that might not be a sure thing. One company's font of a certain name can slightly vary from another's.

Randy, thanks for being such a font of knowledge :-)

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Does anyone understand this Yahoo Mail hack?

Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:12 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

http://allthingsd.com/20130107/yahoo-mail-endures-another-hacking-vulnerability/?mod=atdtweet

I tried following the videos, but there is no audio. Are they saying that if I click on the link they provide in the spam that I am trapped by a cookie being planted in my web browser?

I normally have all cookies flushed when I close Safari. I don't understand the danger if I always flush my cookies? Anyone know why this hack in Yahoo Mail is dangerous?

jr

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Re: Does anyone understand this Yahoo Mail hack?

Mon Jan 7, 2013 9:37 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"George Barker" four46

http://allthingsd.com/20130107/yahoo-mail-endures-another-hacking-vulnerability/?mod=atdtweet
>
>I tried following the videos, but there is no audio. Are they saying
>that if I click on the link they provide in the spam that I am
>trapped by a cookie being planted in my web browser?
>
>I normally have all cookies flushed when I close Safari. I don't
>understand the danger if I always flush my cookies? Anyone know why
>this hack in Yahoo Mail is dangerous?
>
>jr
>

Sounds to me like it means if you are a victim of it then your
address book is compromised; meaning your friends will start getting
spam which appears to be sent by you.

I'm no expert in this - and don't pretend to be - but the latest news
I've seen is here:

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/01/07/yahoo-mail-users-hit-by-widespread-hacking-xss-exploit-seemingly-to-blame/

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Re: Does anyone understand this Yahoo Mail hack?

Tue Jan 8, 2013 9:18 am (PST) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

Thank you for the link, George. I get to thinking that if I am going to continue using a computer that I have to understand all these complicated hacking aspects. Perhaps the only measure is to never click a link from an unknown source. But I have to add I do feel safer with Little Snitch blocking any communication w the outside, unless I choose to allow it. jr

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, George Barker wrote:
>
> >http://allthingsd.com/20130107/yahoo-mail-endures-another-hacking-vulnerability/?mod=atdtweet
> >
> >I tried following the videos, but there is no audio. Are they saying
> >that if I click on the link they provide in the spam that I am
> >trapped by a cookie being planted in my web browser?
> >
> >I normally have all cookies flushed when I close Safari. I don't
> >understand the danger if I always flush my cookies? Anyone know why
> >this hack in Yahoo Mail is dangerous?
> >
> >jr
> >
>
>
> Sounds to me like it means if you are a victim of it then your
> address book is compromised; meaning your friends will start getting
> spam which appears to be sent by you.
>
> I'm no expert in this - and don't pretend to be - but the latest news
> I've seen is here:
>
> http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/01/07/yahoo-mail-users-hit-by-widespread-hacking-xss-exploit-seemingly-to-blame/
>
> George
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Help a friend (with Mail)

Mon Jan 7, 2013 11:00 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

A friend of mine wants his smiling face to show up in the mailbox of recipients of his messages.

When he looks in his mailbox he sees the faces of some of people he received messages from alongside their messages and asks "How can I do this?" I had no answer.

Interestingly (and confusingly) these senders' photos are in his Contacts book. But he says he did not add these photos to Contacts. Surely this is not occurring without the user explicitly adding the photo to Contacts...?

So the question is: How are photos associated with received messages in Mail? Is the photo sent in the message? (The signatures do not have these persons photos in them -- I checked.) Or is this akin to smartphones' ability to associate a photo from the contacts list when a call is received from that person (ie, the photo is only in the Contacts book)?

Thanks,
Dave

system under evaluation:
2012 iMac
OS X 10.8.2
Mail 6.2
Contacts 7.1

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Re: Help a friend (with Mail)

Tue Jan 8, 2013 1:20 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger

On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Dave C wrote:

> So the question is: How are photos associated with received messages in Mail?

Mail automatically adorns your e-mails with the picture that you've set as your user-account picture. So all you need to do is change your account picture:
System Preferences --> Accounts --> username --> click on the picture --> Edit Picture
and Address Book will immediately start using the new picture on your personal card, as will Mail on your messages.

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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
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Re: Help a friend (with Mail)

Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:39 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

On 08/01/13 09:20, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Dave C wrote:
>
>> So the question is: How are photos associated with received messages in Mail?
>
> Mail automatically adorns your e-mails with the picture that you've set as your user-account picture. So all you need to do is change your account picture:
> System Preferences --> Accounts --> username --> click on the picture --> Edit Picture
> and Address Book will immediately start using the new picture on your personal card, as will Mail on your messages.

Note though the pictures are *not* sent with the mails, the matching is
done on the fly by Mail, when it displays an email. If the email address
the message came from a) appears in your address book associated to a
contact and b) that contact has an assigned photo, then it will display
that.

your friend cannot arrange for his photo to show up in the mail when
read by his recipients, remotely. They a) have to use OSX Mail ! and b)
have to set up themselves their own address book to have a photo
assigned to his contact information.

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Re: Help a friend (with Mail)

Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:39 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Dave C" davec2468

>> Mail automatically adorns your e-mails with the picture that you've set as your user-account picture. So all you need to do is change your account picture:
>> System Preferences --> Accounts --> username --> click on the picture --> Edit Picture
>> and Address Book will immediately start using the new picture on your personal card, as will Mail on your messages.
>
> Note though the pictures are *not* sent with the mails, the matching is
> done on the fly by Mail, when it displays an email. If the email address
> the message came from a) appears in your address book associated to a
> contact and b) that contact has an assigned photo, then it will display
> that.
>
> your friend cannot arrange for his photo to show up in the mail when
> read by his recipients, remotely. They a) have to use OSX Mail ! and b)
> have to set up themselves their own address book to have a photo
> assigned to his contact information.
>> Randy B. Singer

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So the only way for his mail to go out with a photo is to put it in the signature.

Or can a URL be placed in a signature that automatically loads an image (presuming the recipient's mail program allows this)?

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: Help a friend (with Mail)

Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:56 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

Hi,

> So the only way for his mail to go out with a photo is to put it in the signature.

Possibly... But note a lot of people, myself included, would consider
that inappropriate, to bloat my inbox with unwanted image attachments
with every email...

> Or can a URL be placed in a signature that automatically loads an image (presuming the recipient's mail program allows this)?

Again possibly, but again I wouldn't do this, for similar reasons as the
above but also it isn't really a good idea security wise to configure
your mail reader to open any random web link it finds embedded in its
inbox...

Personally, I think it should be up to the reader of the email to decide
these sorts of things, not the sender forcing it on them.

Chris