3/21/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9442

12 New Messages

Digest #9442
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Re: Matias Quiet Pro Mac extended keyboard report by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
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What did Adobe do to Reader? by "Barbara Adamski" bkadamski
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Re: What did Adobe do to Reader? by "Barbara Adamski" bkadamski
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Re: What did Adobe do to Reader? by "Barbara Adamski" bkadamski
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Re: What did Adobe do to Reader? by "Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

Messages

Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Some time ago I think I wrote a note saying I was trying a Matias Quiet
Pro (for Mac) keyboard and would comment on what I though about it
after using it.

This is a keyboard with a type of mechanical keycap switch.

I've now reverted to my Apple aluminum extended skinny keyboard.

The good and the bad of the Matias.

First the bad.

This is an expensive keyboard and a very disappointing one.

The Matias people market it as a quiet keyboard. It was not quiet. It
was MUCH louder than my Apple alum base extended keyboard - so much so
that people in the same room noticed how much louder it was.

It has a clunky feel. Keys feel loose when you type.

The media eject key is OK for a single optical drive but my Mac Pro
tower has two optical drives and the command to eject the tray on the
2nd drive is Option + Media key which on the Matias keyboard has to be
done with two hands instead of one. Not convenient.

The worst of it is that recently it started putting in two and three
spaces between words. I make enough typos these days without having a
keyboard that makes even more. This is after about 6 months of use.

The good.

The Matias keyboard is thicker and sits a bit higher off the desk
surface. I think this may have helped reduce problems with striking
the bottom row of keys on the Apple alum extended keyboard. I think
the thinness of the Apple keyboard meant that for someone who has typed
and typed fast since 1960 that I would often strike a bottom row key
and not get it depressed quite far enough. The Matias keyboard may
have been a bit better in this regard.

3 USB ports.

Long USB cable.

The Matias keyboard has keycap letters, numbers, symbols that are laser
etched and should not fade as they have on my Apple keyboard.

- - - - -
Still the point is to type and command the computer and the Matias
wasn't up to snuff. A disappointment.

Denver Dan

Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:26 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Some time ago I think I wrote a note saying I was trying a Matias Quiet
> Pro (for Mac) keyboard and would comment on what I though about it
> after using it.
>
> This is a keyboard with a type of mechanical keycap switch.
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> I've now reverted to my Apple aluminum extended skinny keyboard.
>
> The good and the bad of the Matias.

My own experience was the opposite. I found that it's much quieter than the earlier Matias keyboard, but makes enough noise to give me the feedback I like when I type. There's also a nice feeling of "completion" on each keystroke - again, it's feedback. I'm typing much faster on this keyboard than on the little flat aluminum ones from Apple with the very shallow keys and no "depression" to help keep your fingers on the right keys.

I'm very happy with this purchase.

Daly

Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Mar 20, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:

> My own experience was the opposite. I found that it's much quieter than the earlier Matias keyboard, but makes enough noise to give me the feedback I like when I type. There's also a nice feeling of "completion" on each keystroke - again, it's feedback. I'm typing much faster on this keyboard than on the little flat aluminum ones from Apple with the very shallow keys and no "depression" to help keep your fingers on the right keys.

I've also had a very similar experience to Daly's with the Matias USB 2.0 Keyboard. I love this keyboard, and it was less than $30!
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Matias/FK104/

Of note: the keyboard was a bit loud and clunky when it was brand-new. But when it broke in it got to be much smoother and quieter.

I touchtype, and I don't really care for Apple's recent chicklet keyboards. The Matias USB 2.0 Keyboard has full traditional keycaps that have sculpted tops for good feel. I also like the amount of force required to make a key register, not too much and not too little.

I really loved Apple's older white keyboards that came with their old white iMacs, but those have become hard to find, and expensive. The Matias USB 2.0 Keyboard is a worth replacement.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:32 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Jon Kreisler" jonkreisler

Nice keyboard (FK-104) but, ouch! it requires TWO USB ports. It is nice
that it works as a USB 2.0 hub though.
Jon

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@macattorney.com>wrote:

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> On Mar 20, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
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> > My own experience was the opposite. I found that it's much quieter than
> the earlier Matias keyboard, but makes enough noise to give me the feedback
> I like when I type. There's also a nice feeling of "completion&quot; on each
> keystroke - again, it's feedback. I'm typing much faster on this keyboard
> than on the little flat aluminum ones from Apple with the very shallow keys
> and no "depression&quot; to help keep your fingers on the right keys.
>
> I've also had a very similar experience to Daly's with the Matias USB 2.0
> Keyboard. I love this keyboard, and it was less than $30!
> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Matias/FK104/
>
> Of note: the keyboard was a bit loud and clunky when it was brand-new. But
> when it broke in it got to be much smoother and quieter.
>
> I touchtype, and I don't really care for Apple's recent chicklet
> keyboards. The Matias USB 2.0 Keyboard has full traditional keycaps that
> have sculpted tops for good feel. I also like the amount of force required
> to make a key register, not too much and not too little.
>
> I really loved Apple's older white keyboards that came with their old
> white iMacs, but those have become hard to find, and expensive. The Matias
> USB 2.0 Keyboard is a worth replacement.
>
> ___________________________________________
> Randy B. Singer
> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
>
> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
> ___________________________________________
>
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Bill B." kernos501

At 6:25 PM -0700 3/20/13, Daly Jessup wrote:
>On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Some time ago I think I wrote a note saying I was trying a Matias Quiet
>> Pro (for Mac) keyboard and would comment on what I though about it
>> after using it.
>>
>> This is a keyboard with a type of mechanical keycap switch.
>>
>> I've now reverted to my Apple aluminum extended skinny keyboard.
>>
>> The good and the bad of the Matias.
>
>My own experience was the opposite. I found that it's much quieter than the earlier Matias keyboard, but makes enough noise to give me the feedback I like when I type. There's also a nice feeling of "completion&quot; on each keystroke - again, it's feedback. I'm typing much faster on this keyboard than on the little flat aluminum ones from Apple with the very shallow keys and no "depression&quot; to help keep your fingers on the right keys.
>
>I'm very happy with this purchase.

I have 2 of these and love them. They remind me of the old great ADB keyboards Apple used to make. I detest the new Mac keyboards where design trumps function.

Bill B.

Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:29 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Article from TUAW on a fix permissions command in Dropbox Preferences.

I thought this a good addition to all of the recent Dropbox posts here.

This may apply only to Dropbox version 2.

The fix permissions applies only to Dropbox.

<http://www.tuaw.com/2013/03/19/dropbox-has-a-new-fix-permissions-feature/>

Denver Dan

Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:22 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barbara Adamski" bkadamski


I am getting a weird error message for Adobe Reader, telling me to sign their EUA to proceed to the pdf, but then I don't see the EUA anywhere. I have the full version of Acrobat, but still can't open pdfs from the web. What's the quickest way to return to Preview as my default reader?

Barb

Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barbara Adamski" bkadamski

Found it. http://www.ehow.com/how_6764524_make-preview-default-pdf-viewer.html

On 2013-03-20, at 5:22 PM, Barbara Adamski <adamski@telus.net> wrote:

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> I am getting a weird error message for Adobe Reader, telling me to sign their EUA to proceed to the pdf, but then I don't see the EUA anywhere. I have the full version of Acrobat, but still can't open pdfs from the web. What's the quickest way to return to Preview as my default reader?
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> Barb
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Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Click on the PDF, type command + i and change Open with to Preview.app. Then click on Change All below that. Done.

On Mar 20, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Barbara Adamski wrote:

I am getting a weird error message for Adobe Reader, telling me to sign their EUA to proceed to the pdf, but then I don't see the EUA anywhere. I have the full version of Acrobat, but still can't open pdfs from the web. What's the quickest way to return to Preview as my default reader?

Barb

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Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Barbara Adamski" bkadamski

Thanks, but I am still unable to open files whose urls end in .pdf.

I don't get it. I even deleted Reader, but Preview is not opening those windows. I just get a black window.

b

On 2013-03-20, at 5:42 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Click on the PDF, type command + i and change Open with to Preview.app. Then click on Change All below that. Done.
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> On Mar 20, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
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> I am getting a weird error message for Adobe Reader, telling me to sign their EUA to proceed to the pdf, but then I don't see the EUA anywhere. I have the full version of Acrobat, but still can't open pdfs from the web. What's the quickest way to return to Preview as my default reader?
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> Barb
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:08 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

Ok, let's get some terms correct.

A URL is a universal resource locator, meaning an internet address for a web site. A PDF, or Portable Document Format, is a document or file and the .pdf suffix tells you the file format. It was intended to be a universal format that could be opened by many different applications, such as Preview, or many ebook reader. Many up-to-date web browsers will also open PDFs in the browser window.

Preview opens PDF files or documents, not windows.

You say they still do not open, and you got them from the web. I would say they are corrupted. Have you tried to open another PDF file from another source? Are the problem PFDs from a trusted web site or source?

I just thought of one other possibility, they could be Adobe Digital Edition PDFs. In which case they are digitally protected and they can only be opened with the proper authorization. You need to sign an EUA to be able to open a Digital Edition.

Brent

On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Barbara Adamski wrote:

Thanks, but I am still unable to open files whose urls end in .pdf.

I don't get it. I even deleted Reader, but Preview is not opening those windows. I just get a black window.

b

On 2013-03-20, at 5:42 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Click on the PDF, type command + i and change Open with to Preview.app. Then click on Change All below that. Done.
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> On Mar 20, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Barbara Adamski wrote:
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> I am getting a weird error message for Adobe Reader, telling me to sign their EUA to proceed to the pdf, but then I don't see the EUA anywhere. I have the full version of Acrobat, but still can't open pdfs from the web. What's the quickest way to return to Preview as my default reader?
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> Barb

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Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

I had a similar problem a while ago and this was the answer.

"Have you tried removing /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/AdobePDFViewer.plugin?
Maybe things get stuck because the plugin is looking for Adobe Reader which
is no longer present?" Alan Fry

Otto

On 21 March 2013 04:52, Barbara Adamski <adamski@telus.net> wrote:

> Thanks, but I am still unable to open files whose urls end in .pdf.
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> I don't get it. I even deleted Reader, but Preview is not opening those
> windows. I just get a black window.
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