3/16/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9437

15 New Messages

Digest #9437
1
ooVoo and Java Runtime by "John" jlblake31
2
Signs of Major New MacPro Model by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
3
Alternatives for Google Reader RSS by "Denver Dan" denverdan22180
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printer suggestions by "hecowan" hecowan
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Re: printer suggestions by "OBrien" conorboru
4c
Re: printer suggestions by "Pat Taylor" pat412255
4d
Re: printer suggestions by "Michael Stupinski" mstupinski
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Re: printer suggestions by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
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Re: printer suggestions by "bj" jblair44
4g
Re: printer suggestions by "HAL9000" jrswebhome
4h
Re: printer suggestions by "Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger
4i
Re: printer suggestions by "Ken" avliska
4j
4k
Re: printer suggestions by "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc
5
printer for MPB by "jgarv2002" jgarv2002

Messages

Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"John" jlblake31

I was thinking of using ooVoo as a video chat program and while downloading, it calls for Java RunRuntime and I've seen a lot of discussion about Java programs. I want to make sure I don't download something that will cause problems if I can help it.
Is this a problem with Mac or is it probably safe? I have one iMac with Lion and one with Mt. Lion. I hope I was clear with my question, I am not a techie, just a very old guy who loves to use the computer!
John

Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

Hints building for new MacPro Tower major upgrade.

OWC is talking about it in their newsletter.

A bunch of current tower models were put on sale at a major discount
and all sold out - even back orders no longer available.

MacPro sales in parts of European Union ended.

Leaks abound of new video card code for high-end PCIe cards included in
developer releases of next iteration of Mac OS X 10.8 M Lion.

Tim Cook responded to a frustrated MacPro user several months ago
saying that Apple would have a surprise in 2013 for that topic.

Denver Dan

Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Denver Dan" denverdan22180

Howdy.

TUAW has an article on reader alternatives for Google Reader.

<http://www.tuaw.com/2013/03/14/alternatives-to-google-reader-for-os-x-and-ios-users/>

Alternatives to Google Reader for OS X and iOS users

by Kelly Hodgkins Mar 14th 2013 at 11:00AM

Denver Dan

Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:34 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"hecowan" hecowan

hello group,

i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with. my 7
year old canon pixma is acting up, so time for a newer machine. my
knowledge of printers is limited.

most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
important. my budget is $350.00.

thank you for your ideas.
hec

mac pro quad-core 2.8ghz, 16 gb ram
os 10.6.8

Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"OBrien" conorboru

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:34:18 -0700, hecowan wrote:
> i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with. my 7
> year old canon pixma is acting up, so time for a newer machine. my
> knowledge of printers is limited.
>
> most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
> occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
> costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
> important. my budget is $350.00.

If, as you say, MOST of your printing is B&W with an +occasional+ color print, I would suggest not getting a color inkjet printer. I would get a B&W only laser printer, and have the occasional color print done at a service, or at the drugstore if it's a photo. A B&W laser printer uses long-lasting toner carts instead of ink, it's +extremely+ inexpensive to operate, and it prints faster. Also, for the price, you would, probably, be getting a higher-quality printer. The drugstore photo prints will be better, too.


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O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.

Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:36 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Pat Taylor" pat412255

I've been very pleased with my Canon MX870 which is a couple of years old.

Sent from my iPad...��br>
On Mar 16, 2013, at 2:34 PM, hecowan <hecowan@islandnet.com> wrote:

> hello group,
>
> i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with. my 7
> year old canon pixma is acting up, so time for a newer machine. my
> knowledge of printers is limited.
>
> most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
> occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
> costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
> important. my budget is $350.00.
>
> thank you for your ideas.
> hec
>
> mac pro quad-core 2.8ghz, 16 gb ram
> os 10.6.8
>

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Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:52 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Michael Stupinski" mstupinski

I would suggest that, if you do decide on getting a laser B&W printer, you get a Brother printer. I bought one (a 5150D) about ten years ago and it has been trouble-free.

..........Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 16, 2013, at 5:01 PM, OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:34:18 -0700, hecowan wrote:
>> i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with. my 7
>> year old canon pixma is acting up, so time for a newer machine. my
>> knowledge of printers is limited.
>>
>> most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
>> occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
>> costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
>> important. my budget is $350.00.
>
> If, as you say, MOST of your printing is B&W with an +occasional+ color print, I would suggest not getting a color inkjet printer. I would get a B&W only laser printer, and have the occasional color print done at a service, or at the drugstore if it's a photo. A B&W laser printer uses long-lasting toner carts instead of ink, it's +extremely+ inexpensive to operate, and it prints faster. Also, for the price, you would, probably, be getting a higher-quality printer. The drugstore photo prints will be better, too.
>
>
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Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

Forget HP. Get Canon. A cheap one at Walmart was <$30. You could replace the printer when you run out of ink, not the ink cartridge :)

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, hecowan <hecowan@...> wrote:
>
> hello group,
>
> i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with. my 7
> year old canon pixma is acting up, so time for a newer machine. my
> knowledge of printers is limited.
>
> most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
> occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
> costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
> important. my budget is $350.00.
>
> thank you for your ideas.
> hec
>
> mac pro quad-core 2.8ghz, 16 gb ram
> os 10.6.8
>

Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"bj" jblair44

OTOH I've been very happy with my duplex-printing color HP Laserjets over
several years. The color is there when I want it -- I rarely even approach
needing "photo" quality but it's nice to have a touch of color or an
"inferior"; color pic when wanted. The toner doesn't dry out the way ink
cartridges did when I didn't use them often enough. My color toner
cartridges last me a couple of years or longer but are ready to go anytime.
I'm on a PC, not a Mac.
bj

-----Original Message-----
From: HAL9000
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:20 PM
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [macsupport] Re: printer suggestions

Forget HP. Get Canon. A cheap one at Walmart was <$30. You could replace the
printer when you run out of ink, not the ink cartridge :)

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, hecowan <hecowan@...> wrote:
>
> hello group,
>
> i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with. my 7
> year old canon pixma is acting up, so time for a newer machine. my
> knowledge of printers is limited.
>
> most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
> occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
> costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
> important. my budget is $350.00.
>
> thank you for your ideas.
> hec
>
> mac pro quad-core 2.8ghz, 16 gb ram
> os 10.6.8
>

Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:55 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"HAL9000" jrswebhome

Right, you are a PC user. HP lies to Mac users.
Their techs said their drivers are compatible for weeks.
They aren't. Bought a Canon and never looked back.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "bj" <bjones44@...> wrote:
>
> OTOH I've been very happy with my duplex-printing color HP Laserjets over
> several years. The color is there when I want it -- I rarely even approach
> needing "photo" quality but it's nice to have a touch of color or an
> "inferior"; color pic when wanted. The toner doesn't dry out the way ink
> cartridges did when I didn't use them often enough. My color toner
> cartridges last me a couple of years or longer but are ready to go anytime.
> I'm on a PC, not a Mac.
> bj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HAL9000
> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:20 PM
> To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [macsupport] Re: printer suggestions
>
> Forget HP. Get Canon. A cheap one at Walmart was <$30. You could replace the
> printer when you run out of ink, not the ink cartridge :)
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, hecowan <hecowan@> wrote:
> >
> > hello group,
> >
> > i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with. my 7
> > year old canon pixma is acting up, so time for a newer machine. my
> > knowledge of printers is limited.
> >
> > most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
> > occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
> > costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
> > important. my budget is $350.00.
> >
> > thank you for your ideas.
> > hec
> >
> > mac pro quad-core 2.8ghz, 16 gb ram
> > os 10.6.8
> >
>

Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:19 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy B. Singer" randybrucesinger


On Mar 16, 2013, at 1:34 PM, hecowan wrote:

> i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with. my 7
> year old canon pixma is acting up, so time for a newer machine. my
> knowledge of printers is limited.
>
> most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
> occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
> costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
> important. my budget is $350.00.

For about $250 you can get an excellent color inkjet *and* an excellent black and white laser printer and have the best of both worlds.
I recommend these models:

Black and white laser:

Brother HL-5450DN
1200dpi
40ppm
128MB RAM
Postscript emulation
Duplexing
AirPrint
Ethernet or USB
Accepts an 8,000 page high capacity toner cartridge

http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail/1/HL5450DN/Overview#.UUT7gI6e1UA

$133 with free shipping
<http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?affid=808&item=PP4448>

Color inkjet:

Canon Pixma IP3600
Has their 5 cartridge system for excellent true blacks and dynamite photo-quality prints (DO NOT get a cheap Canon inkjet at WalMart. These are a really low quality models built to a price-point with a single color ink cartridge.)
<http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/printers_multifunction/pixma_ip_series/pixma_ip3600>

Reviews:
http://is.gd/zTY4KM

$104
http://www.sears.com/canon-printer-pixma-ip3600-photo/p-SPM6726607707?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

Plus...I can tell you where to get third party ink cartridges that are indistinguishable from the OEM cartridges, but which are a fraction of the price!

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Ken" avliska

Mike said exactly what I would say. My Brother laser experience is the same.
Ken S.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Michael Stupinski <stupnski@...> wrote:
>
> I would suggest that, if you do decide on getting a laser B&W printer, you get a Brother printer. I bought one (a 5150D) about ten years ago and it has been trouble-free.
>
> ..........Mike
>

> > On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:34:18 -0700, hecowan wrote:
> >> i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with.
> >> most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
> >> occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
> >> costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
> >> important. my budget is $350.00.
>

Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:35 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

HP at one time was very friendly and compatible to the Mac OS. They even made the Apple printers.

But that was many years ago, and I guess that I am a slow learner sometimes. When I bought an HP LaserJet P1006 in 2009, they had not released a workable installer for the current version of OS X.

I figured out a work around for the installer and got it up and running. It was almost a year before HP fixed the installer. It was a very, very simple fix, but they seem to still be slow to update the software.

Brent

On Mar 16, 2013, at 3:55 PM, HAL9000 wrote:

Right, you are a PC user. HP lies to Mac users.
Their techs said their drivers are compatible for weeks.
They aren't. Bought a Canon and never looked back.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "bj" <bjones44@...> wrote:
>
> OTOH I've been very happy with my duplex-printing color HP Laserjets over
> several years. The color is there when I want it -- I rarely even approach
> needing "photo" quality but it's nice to have a touch of color or an
> "inferior"; color pic when wanted. The toner doesn't dry out the way ink
> cartridges did when I didn't use them often enough. My color toner
> cartridges last me a couple of years or longer but are ready to go anytime.
> I'm on a PC, not a Mac.
> bj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HAL9000
> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:20 PM
> To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [macsupport] Re: printer suggestions
>
> Forget HP. Get Canon. A cheap one at Walmart was <$30. You could replace the
> printer when you run out of ink, not the ink cartridge :)
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, hecowan <hecowan@> wrote:
> >
> > hello group,
> >
> > i am wondering which printers group members are happiest with. my 7
> > year old canon pixma is acting up, so time for a newer machine. my
> > knowledge of printers is limited.
> >
> > most of my printing is black and white text documents, with
> > occasional color/pictures. a long-lived machine with economical ink
> > costs is what i am interested. the duplex printing option is
> > important. my budget is $350.00.
> >
> > thank you for your ideas.
> > hec
> >
> > mac pro quad-core 2.8ghz, 16 gb ram
> > os 10.6.8
> >
>

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Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Andrew Buc" andrewbuc

On Mar 16, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

> Brother HL-5450DN

As Randy has often pointed out, Brother has been very good about
supplying OS X drivers for their printers.

I'm on my 4th (I think) Canon inkjet, a Pixma iP3500. That should
tell you my opinion of Canon printers! One feature to look for in a
color inkjet, and most Canons have it: Separate ink tanks for the
different colors. If you have a single multicolor tank and one color
runs out, you have to pitch the entire tank.

Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"jgarv2002" jgarv2002

Looks like my Canon iP5000 has finally died. I like it very much and would like to replace it with a printer with similar features. Ideally it would use the same ink cartridges as my iP5000 as I still have a few of those, probably worth more than the cost of a new printer.

I'm not interested in a multi-purpose unit, but some other features--like maybe wireless printing--would be nice.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Best,

Jim

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