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Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"T Hopkins" todhop
Almost anything that is NOT alcohol based will erase from a disc. That's why people use Sharpies in the first place. Question is how erasable. How about simple "dry erase"and "wet erase" markers? Either should work fine. Wet erase does not come off quite as easily as dry erase initially, which is probably good. I have never used on discs, but dry erase on other surfaces will become much harder to erase over time to the point where it requires a bit of very mild abrasive after a month or so.
By the way, proper DVD markers are water-based (I like the Staedlers) and can be "erased" fairly easily with a bit of water from a smooth surface disc. Harder to erase from a proper printable disc, but this is because of the disc itself, also why I use ink jet printables all the time, even when not using an inkjet. ;)
I really don't like the idea of using alcohol or acetone to erase. The point of using "DVD markers" is that they are non-alcohol based. Alcohol deteriorates the plastic in the disc. Acetone would likely be even worse. Granted, since you are reusing, we can presume that archival durability is not a big issue, but still... And then there is the simple spill factor. Alcohol and acetone are both VERY effective solvents and should be used carefully. They will destroy varnish, paint, plastics, and many other coated surfaces in seconds. Use with care. Plus, what if you want both a permanent and an erasable label? Alcohol will remove both.
Alternative is to use a secondary system. Number the disc permanently with a disc-safe pen, and keep a secondary listing of contents, indexed to the numbers. There is very good software for keeping archives of the entire contents of discs. Many burners come with such software bundled. Neofinder (formerly CDFinder) is excellent but not free. There are some simpler, free solutions.
I personally routinely drop the "contents"; of the disc into TextWrangler which makes a quick, textual file/folder listing which I print and store with the disc for quick reference. Much easier than complicated labels.
Cheers,
tod
On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I just been to an office supply store looking for a pen or marker that
> writes on CDs / DVDs / BlueRays (the RW/RE rewritable kind) and then
> can be erased.
>
> The only thing I could find was an erasable highlighter - brand name
> FriXion.
>
> It works fine, you just use a finger to erase, but since it's a
> highlighter the writing is too faint.
>
> Any suggestions are very welcome!
>
> Denver Dan
>
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By the way, proper DVD markers are water-based (I like the Staedlers) and can be "erased" fairly easily with a bit of water from a smooth surface disc. Harder to erase from a proper printable disc, but this is because of the disc itself, also why I use ink jet printables all the time, even when not using an inkjet. ;)
I really don't like the idea of using alcohol or acetone to erase. The point of using "DVD markers" is that they are non-alcohol based. Alcohol deteriorates the plastic in the disc. Acetone would likely be even worse. Granted, since you are reusing, we can presume that archival durability is not a big issue, but still... And then there is the simple spill factor. Alcohol and acetone are both VERY effective solvents and should be used carefully. They will destroy varnish, paint, plastics, and many other coated surfaces in seconds. Use with care. Plus, what if you want both a permanent and an erasable label? Alcohol will remove both.
Alternative is to use a secondary system. Number the disc permanently with a disc-safe pen, and keep a secondary listing of contents, indexed to the numbers. There is very good software for keeping archives of the entire contents of discs. Many burners come with such software bundled. Neofinder (formerly CDFinder) is excellent but not free. There are some simpler, free solutions.
I personally routinely drop the "contents"
Cheers,
tod
On Mar 27, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I just been to an office supply store looking for a pen or marker that
> writes on CDs / DVDs / BlueRays (the RW/RE rewritable kind) and then
> can be erased.
>
> The only thing I could find was an erasable highlighter - brand name
> FriXion.
>
> It works fine, you just use a finger to erase, but since it's a
> highlighter the writing is too faint.
>
> Any suggestions are very welcome!
>
> Denver Dan
>
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Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:31 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"OBrien" conorboru
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:49:52 +0000, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> In practice though, I found this too tedious, and used simple address
> labels stuck to the disc case. I simply crossed out the old label and wrote
> a new one each time.
It's been awhile back, but I seem to remember a round stick-on paper label with a hole in the center for applying to the center of the disc. This would be better than a regular label because it would maintain the disc's balance at high revs.
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O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.
> In practice though, I found this too tedious, and used simple address
> labels stuck to the disc case. I simply crossed out the old label and wrote
> a new one each time.
It's been awhile back, but I seem to remember a round stick-on paper label with a hole in the center for applying to the center of the disc. This would be better than a regular label because it would maintain the disc's balance at high revs.
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O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.
Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:41 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
I've used CDFinder for well over 10 years.
I bought the new NeoFinder but the programmer has created a serious
problem with NeoFinder's Find function.
CDFinder made it very easy to select a folder of indexed discs and then
use the Find command to search for some file.
NeoFinder has made this nearly impossible to do without going through a
long list of categories in a menu each and every time you want to do a
search. This change has made using NeoFinder impossible for me. A
single search in NeoFinder for a file takes much, much, much, much
longer to do unless you save the search and pick it the next time but
then you would have to go through a LONG list of saved searches each
time.
I've corresponded with the programmer about this but I've not been able
to get him to see the problem as a problem.
If CDFinder stops working in the future, I'll have to change to a
different catalog/indexing program.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:27:15 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
>
> Alternative is to use a secondary system. Number the disc
> permanently with a disc-safe pen, and keep a secondary listing of
> contents, indexed to the numbers. There is very good software for
> keeping archives of the entire contents of discs. Many burners come
> with such software bundled. Neofinder (formerly CDFinder) is
> excellent but not free. There are some simpler, free solutions.
>
> I personally routinely drop the "contents"; of the disc into
> TextWrangler which makes a quick, textual file/folder listing which I
> print and store with the disc for quick reference. Much easier than
> complicated labels.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
I've used CDFinder for well over 10 years.
I bought the new NeoFinder but the programmer has created a serious
problem with NeoFinder'
CDFinder made it very easy to select a folder of indexed discs and then
use the Find command to search for some file.
NeoFinder has made this nearly impossible to do without going through a
long list of categories in a menu each and every time you want to do a
search. This change has made using NeoFinder impossible for me. A
single search in NeoFinder for a file takes much, much, much, much
longer to do unless you save the search and pick it the next time but
then you would have to go through a LONG list of saved searches each
time.
I've corresponded with the programmer about this but I've not been able
to get him to see the problem as a problem.
If CDFinder stops working in the future, I'll have to change to a
different catalog/indexing program.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:27:15 -0400, T Hopkins wrote:
>
> Alternative is to use a secondary system. Number the disc
> permanently with a disc-safe pen, and keep a secondary listing of
> contents, indexed to the numbers. There is very good software for
> keeping archives of the entire contents of discs. Many burners come
> with such software bundled. Neofinder (formerly CDFinder) is
> excellent but not free. There are some simpler, free solutions.
>
> I personally routinely drop the "contents"
> TextWrangler which makes a quick, textual file/folder listing which I
> print and store with the disc for quick reference. Much easier than
> complicated labels.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:42 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 28 March 2013 12:31, OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
> It's been awhile back, but I seem to remember a round stick-on paper label
> with a hole in the center for applying to the center of the disc. This
> would be better than a regular label because it would maintain the disc's
> balance at high revs.
>
I found those would sometimes cause problems in slot-load drives because
they make the disc slightly thicker and you can also get bubbles/bumps
because they are hard to apply *perfectly*.
I was talking about labels stuck to the *case* (If I bought spindle/cakebox
discs, I would also buy slimline cases to keep them in).
Otto
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>
> It's been awhile back, but I seem to remember a round stick-on paper label
> with a hole in the center for applying to the center of the disc. This
> would be better than a regular label because it would maintain the disc's
> balance at high revs.
>
I found those would sometimes cause problems in slot-load drives because
they make the disc slightly thicker and you can also get bubbles/bumps
because they are hard to apply *perfectly*.
I was talking about labels stuck to the *case* (If I bought spindle/cakebox
discs, I would also buy slimline cases to keep them in).
Otto
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Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
A few months ago I downloaded a YouTube downloader application from WonderShare, at the recommendation of someone on a list.
Ever since then, each time I download anything at all, I get in addition to the download, an empty folder in my Downloads folder, called "Wondershare."
Has anyone seen that behavior? Any idea how to make it stop? It's no big deal, but it's irritating.
Daly
Ever since then, each time I download anything at all, I get in addition to the download, an empty folder in my Downloads folder, called "Wondershare.
Has anyone seen that behavior? Any idea how to make it stop? It's no big deal, but it's irritating.
Daly
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