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Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"jgarv2002" jgarv2002
My 16 GB of RAM arrived today from DMS and I eagerly installed it. I was disappointed when the computer froze during boot. Got the tone, the grey screen, the Apple logo and the spinning wheel. But after a couple of minutes the spinning wheel quit spinning. I tried a few times, reseating the cards each time.
Finally I got the bright ( in retrospect, maybe not) idea to try to determine if one of the new cards was good so I replaced one of the new 8 GB cards with one of my old 2 GB ones. It worked! System information reported both modules accurately and said both were good.
Just for fun (?) I decided to try the other new card along with the old one and it worked too! So both new 8 GB cards are good but wouldn't work together? DMS says my mid-2010 MBP 13" will run 16 GB but mine didn't seem to want to. But it did run 10.
Not content, I decided to remove my old 2 GB card thinking that it isn't recommended to run two different size memory cards and that maybe it would actually work better with just the one 8 GB card. Wouldn't boot; same symptoms as above. Tried the other card. It wouldn't boot either. Tried in the upper slot instead of lower. Wouldn't boot. Does the MBP require a card in each slot?
So I gave up and put a 2 GB card back in. This time it not only didn't boot but all I got was a black screen and a single beep every 5 seconds. I tried every combination of cards and finally ended up with my original cards. No joy.
I googled beeps and they seem to indicate RAM issues (no surprise there). But one source suggested resetting PRAM (I think it was). I attempted that but didn't seem to do anything.
Any suggestions before I go to the Apple store?
Thanks!
Best,
Jim
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Jim McGarvie <jim@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks David. Your "P.S." was worth the price of admission. It never occurred to me that my MBP might accept more RAM than advertised, but both DMS and OWC confirmed it. I ended up ordering 16 GB from DMS because of your recommendation, and it was a little cheaper than OWC.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 4:35 PM, David Brostoff <davbro@...> wrote:
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 16:29 , David Brostoff <davbro@...> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 22, 2013, at 05:30 , Jim McGarvie <jim@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Wow. I guess I'm pretty old school. 4 GB still sounds like a huge amount of RAM to me. I assume my MBP will accept more (it has two RAM sockets each with 2 GB). Any advice about source? Should I get it from Apple or is something like Crucial or Kingston good?
> >
> > Others will offer other sources, but I always used Data Memory Systems <http://www.datamemorysystems.com >.
> >
> > They have always been highly recommended and I have never seen a single complaint. My own experience has been excellent in all respects. They are one of my favorite vendors of any kind.
>
> P.S. Wherever you buy RAM, be sure to ask what the maximum amount your computer will take is. (It may be more than Apple originally said was the maximum at the time the computer was manufactured. Larger RAM modules may now be available.)
>
> David
>
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Finally I got the bright ( in retrospect, maybe not) idea to try to determine if one of the new cards was good so I replaced one of the new 8 GB cards with one of my old 2 GB ones. It worked! System information reported both modules accurately and said both were good.
Just for fun (?) I decided to try the other new card along with the old one and it worked too! So both new 8 GB cards are good but wouldn't work together? DMS says my mid-2010 MBP 13" will run 16 GB but mine didn't seem to want to. But it did run 10.
Not content, I decided to remove my old 2 GB card thinking that it isn't recommended to run two different size memory cards and that maybe it would actually work better with just the one 8 GB card. Wouldn't boot; same symptoms as above. Tried the other card. It wouldn't boot either. Tried in the upper slot instead of lower. Wouldn't boot. Does the MBP require a card in each slot?
So I gave up and put a 2 GB card back in. This time it not only didn't boot but all I got was a black screen and a single beep every 5 seconds. I tried every combination of cards and finally ended up with my original cards. No joy.
I googled beeps and they seem to indicate RAM issues (no surprise there). But one source suggested resetting PRAM (I think it was). I attempted that but didn't seem to do anything.
Any suggestions before I go to the Apple store?
Thanks!
Best,
Jim
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Thanks David. Your "P.S." was worth the price of admission. It never occurred to me that my MBP might accept more RAM than advertised, but both DMS and OWC confirmed it. I ended up ordering 16 GB from DMS because of your recommendation, and it was a little cheaper than OWC.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 4:35 PM, David Brostoff <davbro@.
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 16:29 , David Brostoff <davbro@.
>
> > On Mar 22, 2013, at 05:30 , Jim McGarvie <jim@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Wow. I guess I'm pretty old school. 4 GB still sounds like a huge amount of RAM to me. I assume my MBP will accept more (it has two RAM sockets each with 2 GB). Any advice about source? Should I get it from Apple or is something like Crucial or Kingston good?
> >
> > Others will offer other sources, but I always used Data Memory Systems <http://www.datamemo
> >
> > They have always been highly recommended and I have never seen a single complaint. My own experience has been excellent in all respects. They are one of my favorite vendors of any kind.
>
> P.S. Wherever you buy RAM, be sure to ask what the maximum amount your computer will take is. (It may be more than Apple originally said was the maximum at the time the computer was manufactured. Larger RAM modules may now be available.)
>
> David
>
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Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Your MBP can not handle 16 GB. It can handle a maximum total of 8 GB. That is from MacTracker and my favorite RAM supplier MemoryX.com. Both would show if you could use the amount Apple recommends. It can not recognize two 8 GB sticks.
I would try to reset the PRAM or what ever it is called today. If that does not work, then take it into Apple.
Brent
On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:54 PM, jgarv2002 wrote:
My 16 GB of RAM arrived today from DMS and I eagerly installed it. I was disappointed when the computer froze during boot. Got the tone, the grey screen, the Apple logo and the spinning wheel. But after a couple of minutes the spinning wheel quit spinning. I tried a few times, reseating the cards each time.
Finally I got the bright ( in retrospect, maybe not) idea to try to determine if one of the new cards was good so I replaced one of the new 8 GB cards with one of my old 2 GB ones. It worked! System information reported both modules accurately and said both were good.
Just for fun (?) I decided to try the other new card along with the old one and it worked too! So both new 8 GB cards are good but wouldn't work together? DMS says my mid-2010 MBP 13" will run 16 GB but mine didn't seem to want to. But it did run 10.
Not content, I decided to remove my old 2 GB card thinking that it isn't recommended to run two different size memory cards and that maybe it would actually work better with just the one 8 GB card. Wouldn't boot; same symptoms as above. Tried the other card. It wouldn't boot either. Tried in the upper slot instead of lower. Wouldn't boot. Does the MBP require a card in each slot?
So I gave up and put a 2 GB card back in. This time it not only didn't boot but all I got was a black screen and a single beep every 5 seconds. I tried every combination of cards and finally ended up with my original cards. No joy.
I googled beeps and they seem to indicate RAM issues (no surprise there). But one source suggested resetting PRAM (I think it was). I attempted that but didn't seem to do anything.
Any suggestions before I go to the Apple store?
Thanks!
Best,
Jim
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , Jim McGarvie <jim@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks David. Your "P.S." was worth the price of admission. It never occurred to me that my MBP might accept more RAM than advertised, but both DMS and OWC confirmed it. I ended up ordering 16 GB from DMS because of your recommendation, and it was a little cheaper than OWC.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 4:35 PM, David Brostoff <davbro@...> wrote:
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 16:29 , David Brostoff <davbro@...> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 22, 2013, at 05:30 , Jim McGarvie <jim@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Wow. I guess I'm pretty old school. 4 GB still sounds like a huge amount of RAM to me. I assume my MBP will accept more (it has two RAM sockets each with 2 GB). Any advice about source? Should I get it from Apple or is something like Crucial or Kingston good?
> >
> > Others will offer other sources, but I always used Data Memory Systems <http://www.datamemorysystems.com >.
> >
> > They have always been highly recommended and I have never seen a single complaint. My own experience has been excellent in all respects. They are one of my favorite vendors of any kind.
>
> P.S. Wherever you buy RAM, be sure to ask what the maximum amount your computer will take is. (It may be more than Apple originally said was the maximum at the time the computer was manufactured. Larger RAM modules may now be available.)
>
> David
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/ >
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I would try to reset the PRAM or what ever it is called today. If that does not work, then take it into Apple.
Brent
On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:54 PM, jgarv2002 wrote:
My 16 GB of RAM arrived today from DMS and I eagerly installed it. I was disappointed when the computer froze during boot. Got the tone, the grey screen, the Apple logo and the spinning wheel. But after a couple of minutes the spinning wheel quit spinning. I tried a few times, reseating the cards each time.
Finally I got the bright ( in retrospect, maybe not) idea to try to determine if one of the new cards was good so I replaced one of the new 8 GB cards with one of my old 2 GB ones. It worked! System information reported both modules accurately and said both were good.
Just for fun (?) I decided to try the other new card along with the old one and it worked too! So both new 8 GB cards are good but wouldn't work together? DMS says my mid-2010 MBP 13" will run 16 GB but mine didn't seem to want to. But it did run 10.
Not content, I decided to remove my old 2 GB card thinking that it isn't recommended to run two different size memory cards and that maybe it would actually work better with just the one 8 GB card. Wouldn't boot; same symptoms as above. Tried the other card. It wouldn't boot either. Tried in the upper slot instead of lower. Wouldn't boot. Does the MBP require a card in each slot?
So I gave up and put a 2 GB card back in. This time it not only didn't boot but all I got was a black screen and a single beep every 5 seconds. I tried every combination of cards and finally ended up with my original cards. No joy.
I googled beeps and they seem to indicate RAM issues (no surprise there). But one source suggested resetting PRAM (I think it was). I attempted that but didn't seem to do anything.
Any suggestions before I go to the Apple store?
Thanks!
Best,
Jim
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Thanks David. Your "P.S." was worth the price of admission. It never occurred to me that my MBP might accept more RAM than advertised, but both DMS and OWC confirmed it. I ended up ordering 16 GB from DMS because of your recommendation, and it was a little cheaper than OWC.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 4:35 PM, David Brostoff <davbro@.
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 16:29 , David Brostoff <davbro@.
>
> > On Mar 22, 2013, at 05:30 , Jim McGarvie <jim@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Wow. I guess I'm pretty old school. 4 GB still sounds like a huge amount of RAM to me. I assume my MBP will accept more (it has two RAM sockets each with 2 GB). Any advice about source? Should I get it from Apple or is something like Crucial or Kingston good?
> >
> > Others will offer other sources, but I always used Data Memory Systems <http://www.datamemo
> >
> > They have always been highly recommended and I have never seen a single complaint. My own experience has been excellent in all respects. They are one of my favorite vendors of any kind.
>
> P.S. Wherever you buy RAM, be sure to ask what the maximum amount your computer will take is. (It may be more than Apple originally said was the maximum at the time the computer was manufactured. Larger RAM modules may now be available.)
>
> David
>
> ------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsuppo
>
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Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:22 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff
On Mar 27, 2013, at 20:54 , jgarv2002 <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
> Any suggestions before I go to the Apple store?
The first thing I would do is call DMS.
David
> Any suggestions before I go to the Apple store?
The first thing I would do is call DMS.
David
Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:01 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"jgarv2002" jgarv2002
I certainly will. Thanks.
Jim
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> On Mar 27, 2013, at 20:54 , jgarv2002 <jim@...> wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions before I go to the Apple store?
>
> The first thing I would do is call DMS.
>
> David
>
Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"jgarv2002" jgarv2002
Thanks for the reply, Brent. You may be right, but both DMS and OWC claimed it would with the latest versions of OS X.
Best,
Jim
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com , "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
>
> Your MBP can not handle 16 GB. It can handle a maximum total of 8 GB. That is from MacTracker and my favorite RAM supplier MemoryX.com. Both would show if you could use the amount Apple recommends. It can not recognize two 8 GB sticks.
>
> I would try to reset the PRAM or what ever it is called today. If that does not work, then take it into Apple.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:54 PM, jgarv2002 wrote:
>
> My 16 GB of RAM arrived today from DMS and I eagerly installed it. I was disappointed when the computer froze during boot. Got the tone, the grey screen, the Apple logo and the spinning wheel. But after a couple of minutes the spinning wheel quit spinning. I tried a few times, reseating the cards each time.
>
> Finally I got the bright ( in retrospect, maybe not) idea to try to determine if one of the new cards was good so I replaced one of the new 8 GB cards with one of my old 2 GB ones. It worked! System information reported both modules accurately and said both were good.
>
> Just for fun (?) I decided to try the other new card along with the old one and it worked too! So both new 8 GB cards are good but wouldn't work together? DMS says my mid-2010 MBP 13" will run 16 GB but mine didn't seem to want to. But it did run 10.
>
> Not content, I decided to remove my old 2 GB card thinking that it isn't recommended to run two different size memory cards and that maybe it would actually work better with just the one 8 GB card. Wouldn't boot; same symptoms as above. Tried the other card. It wouldn't boot either. Tried in the upper slot instead of lower. Wouldn't boot. Does the MBP require a card in each slot?
>
> So I gave up and put a 2 GB card back in. This time it not only didn't boot but all I got was a black screen and a single beep every 5 seconds. I tried every combination of cards and finally ended up with my original cards. No joy.
>
> I googled beeps and they seem to indicate RAM issues (no surprise there). But one source suggested resetting PRAM (I think it was). I attempted that but didn't seem to do anything.
>
> Any suggestions before I go to the Apple store?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>
Best,
Jim
--- In macsupportcentral@
>
> Your MBP can not handle 16 GB. It can handle a maximum total of 8 GB. That is from MacTracker and my favorite RAM supplier MemoryX.com. Both would show if you could use the amount Apple recommends. It can not recognize two 8 GB sticks.
>
> I would try to reset the PRAM or what ever it is called today. If that does not work, then take it into Apple.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:54 PM, jgarv2002 wrote:
>
> My 16 GB of RAM arrived today from DMS and I eagerly installed it. I was disappointed when the computer froze during boot. Got the tone, the grey screen, the Apple logo and the spinning wheel. But after a couple of minutes the spinning wheel quit spinning. I tried a few times, reseating the cards each time.
>
> Finally I got the bright ( in retrospect, maybe not) idea to try to determine if one of the new cards was good so I replaced one of the new 8 GB cards with one of my old 2 GB ones. It worked! System information reported both modules accurately and said both were good.
>
> Just for fun (?) I decided to try the other new card along with the old one and it worked too! So both new 8 GB cards are good but wouldn't work together? DMS says my mid-2010 MBP 13" will run 16 GB but mine didn't seem to want to. But it did run 10.
>
> Not content, I decided to remove my old 2 GB card thinking that it isn't recommended to run two different size memory cards and that maybe it would actually work better with just the one 8 GB card. Wouldn't boot; same symptoms as above. Tried the other card. It wouldn't boot either. Tried in the upper slot instead of lower. Wouldn't boot. Does the MBP require a card in each slot?
>
> So I gave up and put a 2 GB card back in. This time it not only didn't boot but all I got was a black screen and a single beep every 5 seconds. I tried every combination of cards and finally ended up with my original cards. No joy.
>
> I googled beeps and they seem to indicate RAM issues (no surprise there). But one source suggested resetting PRAM (I think it was). I attempted that but didn't seem to do anything.
>
> Any suggestions before I go to the Apple store?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>
Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:19 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Everymac.com says 16 GB for some mid-2010 models but only 8 for others.
Exactly which model is yours? There are 9 to choose from!
Otto
On 28 March 2013 12:04, jgarv2002 <jim@mcgarvie.us > wrote:
> Thanks for the reply, Brent. You may be right, but both DMS and OWC
> claimed it would with the latest versions of OS X.
>
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Exactly which model is yours? There are 9 to choose from!
Otto
On 28 March 2013 12:04, jgarv2002 <jim@mcgarvie.
> Thanks for the reply, Brent. You may be right, but both DMS and OWC
> claimed it would with the latest versions of OS X.
>
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Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:26 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:54 PM, jgarv2002 wrote:
> My 16 GB of RAM arrived today from DMS and I eagerly installed it. I was disappointed when the computer froze during boot. Got the tone, the grey screen, the Apple logo and the spinning wheel. But after a couple of minutes the spinning wheel quit spinning. I tried a few times, reseating the cards each time.
I had a very similar experience installing new RAM from DMS for a client recently. I ended up returning the RAM to them. They were terrific - they had me hold on to the "bad" RAM and they priority-mailed me a new set along with postage-paid packaging for returning the bad ones.
The new ones worked perfectly. Just talk to them to be sure your Mac can handle 16 GB.
Daly
Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"George Robertson" haydn46
Dan, I use a Sharpie to write and Williams Lectric Shave to erase. A Kleenex will dry off the moisture remaining on the disk.
George Robertson
George Robertson
Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:39 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Nope, the active ingredient of nail polish remover is acetone. Acetone is used to weld some plastics. I don't recommend it in either form.
Bekah, read section 3 of this MSDS for acetone. Fingernail polish is a weaker solution, but why use something that strong when there are safer things?
On Mar 27, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Bekah wrote:
How about nail polish remover - that's what I used to use on my white boards.
Bekah
On Mar 27, 2013, at 5:47 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> And the way that I know about the AP seal is that I am a certified rigging inspector. I have to know what chemicals will damage synthetic slings. Markers with the AP seal will not damage the synthetics, plastics, in the slings.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:39 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> I have yet to have a problem with the Sharpie causing problems with the discs. Or look for an AP seal on the marker. The seal is the Art & Creative Materials Institute Certification and will be non-toxic and safe for use on plastics.
>
> Brent
>
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Bekah, read section 3 of this MSDS for acetone. Fingernail polish is a weaker solution, but why use something that strong when there are safer things?
On Mar 27, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Bekah wrote:
How about nail polish remover - that's what I used to use on my white boards.
Bekah
On Mar 27, 2013, at 5:47 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
> And the way that I know about the AP seal is that I am a certified rigging inspector. I have to know what chemicals will damage synthetic slings. Markers with the AP seal will not damage the synthetics, plastics, in the slings.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:39 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> I have yet to have a problem with the Sharpie causing problems with the discs. Or look for an AP seal on the marker. The seal is the Art & Creative Materials Institute Certification and will be non-toxic and safe for use on plastics.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
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Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Yes. But it will lightly scratch the plastic, so chose the location appropriately. It can burn discs through the light scratches, but I make no guarantee. You're best locations are the outer edge and the inner ring.
Brent
On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
Brent, do you mean something like a Staedtler White Vinyl Eraser?
Denver Dan
On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:39:22 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Use a Sharpie brand marker and a white eraser. Rubbing alcohol will
> also work.
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Brent
On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
Brent, do you mean something like a Staedtler White Vinyl Eraser?
Denver Dan
On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:39:22 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Use a Sharpie brand marker and a white eraser. Rubbing alcohol will
> also work.
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Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Lectric shave, alcohol, oil and fragrance. We're back to rubbing alcohol.
But it probably smells better.
On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:58 PM, George Robertson wrote:
Dan, I use a Sharpie to write and Williams Lectric Shave to erase. A Kleenex will dry off the moisture remaining on the disk.
George Robertson
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But it probably smells better.
On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:58 PM, George Robertson wrote:
Dan, I use a Sharpie to write and Williams Lectric Shave to erase. A Kleenex will dry off the moisture remaining on the disk.
George Robertson
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Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Papermate also make markers suitable for CD/DVD use. They're actually
labelled as CD&DVD Marker.
Otto
On 28 March 2013 01:44, Andrew Buc <abuc@andrewbuc.com > wrote:
> I have a couple of Staedtler Permanent Lumocolor markers with the AP
> seal. The store clerk said the black marker is specifically marketed
> for writing on CDs/DVDs, but all colors will work without damaging
> the disk. I don't know if they're erasable, as I've never had the
> desire to erase them.
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labelled as CD&DVD Marker.
Otto
On 28 March 2013 01:44, Andrew Buc <abuc@andrewbuc.
> I have a couple of Staedtler Permanent Lumocolor markers with the AP
> seal. The store clerk said the black marker is specifically marketed
> for writing on CDs/DVDs, but all colors will work without damaging
> the disk. I don't know if they're erasable, as I've never had the
> desire to erase them.
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Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:50 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Dan,
The writing created by these "permanent" markers can easily be erased using
a safe solvent such as isopropyl alcohol.
In practice though, I found this too tedious, and used simple address
labels stuck to the disc case. I simply crossed out the old label and wrote
a new one each time.
Otto
On 28 March 2013 03:00, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Hummm?
>
> Interesting. I have rubbing alcohol and paper towels and will do a
> test!
>
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The writing created by these "permanent&quo
a safe solvent such as isopropyl alcohol.
In practice though, I found this too tedious, and used simple address
labels stuck to the disc case. I simply crossed out the old label and wrote
a new one each time.
Otto
On 28 March 2013 03:00, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Hummm?
>
> Interesting. I have rubbing alcohol and paper towels and will do a
> test!
>
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Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
How would you creating scratches on the burn side? Am I misunderstanding
you?
Otto
On 28 March 2013 05:44, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
> Yes. But it will lightly scratch the plastic, so chose the location
> appropriately. It can burn discs through the light scratches, but I make no
> guarantee. You're best locations are the outer edge and the inner ring.
>
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you?
Otto
On 28 March 2013 05:44, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.
> Yes. But it will lightly scratch the plastic, so chose the location
> appropriately. It can burn discs through the light scratches, but I make no
> guarantee. You're best locations are the outer edge and the inner ring.
>
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Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
I see that the iPhone can be mounted as a disk drive using one of several utilities, then files copied to the Mac.
Also there are stand-alone utilities that do this via a user interface.
Anyone have a favorite they can recommend?
Free preferred...
Thanks,
Dave
iPhone 3GS
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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Also there are stand-alone utilities that do this via a user interface.
Anyone have a favorite they can recommend?
Free preferred...
Thanks,
Dave
iPhone 3GS
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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