2/17/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9382

10 New Messages

Digest #9382
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I have Boot Camp running by "Denton Larson" wb0zur
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Re: I have Boot Camp running by "Thayne" tcurtis83

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Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:43 am (PST) . Posted by:

"tcurtis83" tcurtis83

Another alternative to Boot Camp and virtual software is Cross Over. If the software you want to run is supported, this may work for you. No copy of Windows is required. However, Cross Over does cost around $60.00, which I believe is much less than Windows.
Just another thought :)
t

P.S. I do use Parallels but would prefer Cross Over. However, the one Windows software I won't give up, has one feature I really like that Cross Over doesn't support. :(

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
> I'm thinking this too.
>
> Tina,
>
> There are 2 ways of running Windows on a Mac. Both require a copy of
> Windows.
>
> All Intel Macs come with Boot Camp, which allows you to install and run
> Windows, but only as a "dual boot". This means the Mac can boot and run
> either OS X or Windows, but not at the same time. This requires no extra
> software other than Windows.
>
> Alternatively, you can install a virtualisation app such as Parallels
> Desktop, VMWare Fusion, or Sun/Oracle Virtual Box. These allow you to run
> Windows (or another OS) as a "guest" within OS X, so you can run both at
> the same time. You still need a copy of Windows, of course.
>
> Search on any of the above and you will find lots more info. Wikipedia
> would be a good start.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what requires you to run Windows?
>
> Otto
>
> On 17 February 2013 08:24, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I get the feeling you aren't really understanding how parallels works or
> > how to use it. Are you trying to open the windows disk directly, or via
> > parallels ? OSX I indeed cannot directly use a windows disk. This is where
> > parallels comes in, as it lets you install windows as a virtual machine.
> >
> > There are plenty of guides on the web to parallels I suggest you pick one
> > and work through it.
> >
> >
> > http://download.parallels.com/desktop/v4/docs/en/Parallels_Desktop_Users_Guide/
> >
> > For instance.
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:15 am (PST) . Posted by:

"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff

On 17 Feb 2013, at 04:51 AM, "titnaw" titnaw@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is crazy but I go to Staples and buy the windows 8 for 99 dollars. It doesn't work without windows. They tell me I need a windows operating system. That lis 199 dollars- I say no and take back the $99 dollar one.
> I have another windows operating system besides the XP one. This one is also for a Gateway and says it is aWindows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit Operating Disc.
>
> When I try to use it, it says "you can not open because Microsoft Windows applications are. not supported by OS XL

To run Windows on a virtual PC created by Parallels (or directly on your Macintosh, in a Boot Camp partition), you need a new, full $199.99 version, not a $99.99 upgrade version--which requires a previous Windows version to be already installed--nor a version that came with another physical computer, such as your Gateway.

David

Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:50 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf

On 17 February 2013 19:15, David Brostoff davbro@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> To run Windows on a virtual PC created by Parallels (or directly on your
> Macintosh, in a Boot Camp partition), you need a new, full $199.99 version,
> not a $99.99 upgrade version--which requires a previous Windows version to
> be already installed--nor a version that came with another physical
> computer, such as your Gateway.
>

I must say that I find Windows 8 pricing confusing, to say the least! Do
you know if an OEM edition would work for Tina?
http://www.newegg.com/Operating-Systems/SubCategory/ID-368?

Otto

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Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:54 am (PST) . Posted by:

"titnaw" titnaw

I have an embroidery program that I use but it is a windows program. I may just take Parallels back and just continue to use it on my PC. This is too confusing for my brain.
Do you think it is because the operating system is for my gateway computer?
Thanks
Tina

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
> I'm thinking this too.
>
> Tina,
>
> There are 2 ways of running Windows on a Mac. Both require a copy of
> Windows.
>
> All Intel Macs come with Boot Camp, which allows you to install and run
> Windows, but only as a "dual boot". This means the Mac can boot and run
> either OS X or Windows, but not at the same time. This requires no extra
> software other than Windows.
>
> Alternatively, you can install a virtualisation app such as Parallels
> Desktop, VMWare Fusion, or Sun/Oracle Virtual Box. These allow you to run
> Windows (or another OS) as a "guest" within OS X, so you can run both at
> the same time. You still need a copy of Windows, of course.
>
> Search on any of the above and you will find lots more info. Wikipedia
> would be a good start.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what requires you to run Windows?
>
> Otto
>
> On 17 February 2013 08:24, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I get the feeling you aren't really understanding how parallels works or
> > how to use it. Are you trying to open the windows disk directly, or via
> > parallels ? OSX I indeed cannot directly use a windows disk. This is where
> > parallels comes in, as it lets you install windows as a virtual machine.
> >
> > There are plenty of guides on the web to parallels I suggest you pick one
> > and work through it.
> >
> >
> > http://download.parallels.com/desktop/v4/docs/en/Parallels_Desktop_Users_Guide/
> >
> > For instance.
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:57 am (PST) . Posted by:

"titnaw" titnaw

thanks David. It looks like I will return parallels as it is not worth the $199 when I can use the program on my PC. I was just hoping there was an easy way to do it, but I guess not
Tina

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, David Brostoff wrote:
>
> On 17 Feb 2013, at 04:51 AM, "titnaw" wrote:
>
> > This is crazy but I go to Staples and buy the windows 8 for 99 dollars. It doesn't work without windows. They tell me I need a windows operating system. That lis 199 dollars- I say no and take back the $99 dollar one.
> > I have another windows operating system besides the XP one. This one is also for a Gateway and says it is aWindows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit Operating Disc.
> >
> > When I try to use it, it says "you can not open because Microsoft Windows applications are. not supported by OS XL
>
> To run Windows on a virtual PC created by Parallels (or directly on your Macintosh, in a Boot Camp partition), you need a new, full $199.99 version, not a $99.99 upgrade version--which requires a previous Windows version to be already installed--nor a version that came with another physical computer, such as your Gateway.
>
> David
>

Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:29 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff

On Feb 17, 2013, at 11:50 , Otto Nikolaus otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I must say that I find Windows 8 pricing confusing, to say the least! Do
> you know if an OEM edition would work for Tina?
> http://www.newegg.com/Operating-Systems/SubCategory/ID-368?

I'm not sure if it still works, but I used an OEM version of XP withParallels many years ago. (I now use a full version of XP with VMWare Fusion.)

At the time there were a lot of confusing discussions about whether it was strictly legal, but I haven't kept up with them and don't know what the current state of affairs is.

One problem was re-activating Windows when you upgraded Parallels to a new version, which created a new virtual PC. Since the OEM version was only good for a specific computer, you then supposedly had to buy a new one, although there were ways to get around it. Again, it wasn't clear what the legality was.

David

Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:51 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"David Brostoff" dcbrostoff

On Feb 17, 2013, at 12:28 , David Brostoff DAVBRO@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:

> One problem was re-activating Windows when you upgraded Parallels to a new version, which created a new virtual PC. Since the OEM version was only good for a specific computer, you then supposedly had to buy a new one, although there were ways to get around it. Again, it wasn't clear what the legality was.

Correction:

Upgrading Parallels didn't create a new virtual PC, but I think there were one or two major upgrades that made it advantageous or necessary to create one. In any event, the re-activation problem occurred any time you did create one for whatever reason.

Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:53 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I have an embroidery program that I use but it is a windows program. I may just take Parallels back and just continue to use it on my PC. This is too confusing for my brain.
>
> Do you think it is because the operating system is for my gateway computer?

Yes.
Absolutely.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com

Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:18 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Denton Larson" wb0zur

Hi Everybody

I have boot camp running and I was wondering if the "cut and past" work for Windows. I have a program that only works under windows and there is a Password it it. I can't seem to get it. Can it be done and how?

Denton Larson
wb0zur@gmail.com

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Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:48 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Thayne" tcurtis83

Denton;
My experience is that some browser applications will NOT allow you to paste into a password field. The only thing I know to do is type it in. Sorry :(
t

Macbook Pro 15" 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB DDR3
Mountain Lion Mac OS X 10.8.1 (12B19)

On 17 Feb 2013, at 9:18 AM, Denton Larson wb0zur@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Everybody
>
> I have boot camp running and I was wondering if the "cut and past" work for Windows. I have a program that only works under windows and there is a Password it it. I can't seem to get it. Can it be done and how?
>
>
>
>
> Denton Larson
> wb0zur@gmail.com
>
>
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>
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