2/24/2013

[macsupport] Digest Number 9396

15 New Messages

Digest #9396
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Re: Time Machine Backups in Trash by "Barry Austern" barryaus
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Re: Time Machine Backups in Trash by "Barry Austern" barryaus
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Re: Time Machine Backups in Trash by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Time Machine Backups in Trash by "Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
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Re: Time Machine Backups in Trash by "Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
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Re: Java confusion by "Paul Smith" waldonny
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Re: Java confusion by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: Java confusion by "N.A. Nada"
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Re: iCal losing data by "Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
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Re: iCal losing data by "Daly Jessup" dalyjessup

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:33 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus


On Feb 24, 2013, at 2:15 PM, nosteele wrote:

> I have found folders in my Trash that I am pretty sure are backups that have been deleted from Time Machine. Info on one of the folders shows: /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/.Trashes/501
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> Because of this I am guessing these backups in my Trash are backups that have been deleted by Time Machine because my backup disc was full.
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> I want to empty my Trash and find that when it starts to process the number of files to be deleted it has 130,000 files and counting. I should say that all that is showing Trash are these eleven TM backups.
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> Is there a way that I can delete these backups one by one rather than having Trash do 130,000 files at one time?
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> Since I sometimes delete backups by opening the Time Machine program and delete using the Time Machine delete backup option, I do not recall ever dragging backups to the Trash.
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Go to the Terminal and type "man rm" without the quotes and hit return. This will give you the syntax of the "rm" command (stands for remove).
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:58 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Barry Austern" barryaus


On Feb 24, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Barry Austern wrote:

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> Go to the Terminal and type „man rm‰ without the quotes and hit return. This will give you the syntax of the „rm‰ command (stands for remove).
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No idea if it happened on your end, but when it came back to me the quotes came back as two commas for the leading quote and the per-mill sign (% with an additional circle) for the closing quote.
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:33 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"nosteele" nosteele

Barry, thanks, it came over just fine in your reply.

Problem is that I never use Terminal so once I entered man rm and the different syntax appeared I had no clue how to proceed. (hell, i had to look up what syntax meant)

Can someone give me a bit more assistance on what I do to delete these Trash files once I am in Terminal?

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:55 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I want to empty my Trash and find that when it starts to process the number of files to be deleted it has 130,000 files and counting. I should say that all that is showing Trash are these eleven TM backups.
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> Is there a way that I can delete these backups one by one rather than having Trash do 130,000 files at one time?

Try "Secure Empty Trash" from the Finder menu.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:04 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"nosteele" nosteele

Jim, I am trying to avoid tying up my computer for a long period of time so with 130,000 files to delete in my Trash, won't Secure Empty Trash take an even longer time?

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad wrote:
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> > I want to empty my Trash and find that when it starts to process the number of files to be deleted it has 130,000 files and counting. I should say that all that is showing Trash are these eleven TM backups.
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> Try "Secure Empty Trash" from the Finder menu.
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:08 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob

Hi,

On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:04 PM, "nosteele"; noearthspam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim, I am trying to avoid tying up my computer for a long period of time so with 130,000 files to delete in my Trash, won't Secure Empty Trash take an even longer time?

Probably yes. Can you not just start the empty going some time you can leave it, over night for instance, and just let its finish ...

Chris

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> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad wrote:
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>>> I want to empty my Trash and find that when it starts to process the number of files to be deleted it has 130,000 files and counting. I should say that all that is showing Trash are these eleven TM backups.
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>>> Is there a way that I can delete these backups one by one rather than having Trash do 130,000 files at one time?
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>> Try "Secure Empty Trash" from the Finder menu.
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:09 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob



On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:08 PM, Chris Jones jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
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> On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:04 PM, "nosteele"; noearthspam@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Jim, I am trying to avoid tying up my computer for a long period of time so with 130,000 files to delete in my Trash, won't Secure Empty Trash take an even longer time?
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> Probably yes. Can you not just start the empty going some time you can leave it, over night for instance, and just let its finish ...

P.s. in future, you might think about emptying your trash a little more often, to avoid this sort of issue.

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>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Saklad wrote:
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>>>> I want to empty my Trash and find that when it starts to process the number of files to be deleted it has 130,000 files and counting. I should say that all that is showing Trash are these eleven TM backups.
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>>>> Is there a way that I can delete these backups one by one rather than having Trash do 130,000 files at one time?
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>>> Try "Secure Empty Trash" from the Finder menu.
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:38 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Paul Smith" waldonny

You should also consider that every item of personal info on your computer may be available for use in identity theft. And someone else may be delighted to include your Mac in their bot network aiming to conquer the universe.
BTW, I know of at least three online speed test sites that do not require Java.

MacBook Pro w/ Mac OS 10.8.2, iPhone 4S 64 GB and iPad 4 32 GB w/ iOS 6.1.2

On Feb 24, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "Eric" emanmb@yahoo.com> wrote:

> There seemed to me to be quite a few sites that require it, let alone enhance a site. If you want to do a ping test or speed test of your internet you'll need it. (pingtest.net & speedtest.net) When I turned it off once a year or so ago after reading of the risk etc of using it, I found that even Google's page didn't work right.
> So I've gone ahead and kept it.
> So if it means my plans to conquer the universe are open to hackers or whatever the vulnerability is, so be it.

Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:53 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> There seemed to me to be quite a few sites that require it, let alone enhance a site. If you want to do a ping test or speed test of your internet you'll need it. (pingtest.net & speedtest.net)

Wrong.
I just went to both sites and ran the tests uneventfully, and I don't even have Java on my machine, let alone "turned on" or "turned off".

Both *DO* require Flash.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:02 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

And they are?

On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Paul Smith wrote:


BTW, I know of at least three online speed test sites that do not require Java.

MacBook Pro w/ Mac OS 10.8.2, iPhone 4S 64 GB and iPad 4 32 GB w/ iOS 6.1.2

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:39 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Carol" floridabouvs

I have been an iMac owner for about a month and am still learning, but getting more comfortable.
My old PC (Windows 97) died and I have a Book backup with lots of stuff on it. All I want are the photos. I also have a Windows 97 laptop and Windows 7 laptop.
I was thinking of hooking the Book backup to the Windows 97 laptop and downloading the photos, transferring them to a Flash drive and then putting them on iPhoto. Would that work? There are probably 700 photos in all, although I could go through them individually and only take the ones that I really want. I have lots of multiples as I go back to the "bracket" days.
Thanks,
Carol

Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:42 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01

> I had a somewhat surreal experience with my iphone, MB Pro (10.7.5) and the icloud when I first set up my phone and synced via the "cloud". Every time I synced it duplicated every event on my MB Pro and phone. Luckily this happened at the Apple Store and after the intervention of 3 Apple Geniuses (One phone guy, one "cloud" lady and another MB Pro guy) working on things for nearly 4 hours they restored my original data - mostly.

The usual cause is syncing BOTH via iCloud AND via local computer connection.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:56 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup


On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Michael Stupinski wrote:

> I'm running v 6.0 of iCal and can find no provision for setting or adjusting automatic deletion of events based upon their age. That includes settings under the 'Advanced' tab. Is this setting only in an older version of iCal?

Possibly. I'm using iCal 5.0.3 under OS X 10.7.5. In my iCal preferences in the Advanced tab, there's an option that says "Delete events 30 days after they have passed." That's what I had never seen and it's what I unchecked after Otto wrote to me. I assume that from now on the system won't be deleting my events after one month. And good buy to a decade of lost events.

Daly

Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:08 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

IIRC, she was commenting on something else and just include reference to the icon. The person who sent her the solution, did not bother to send it to the list but to her privately. That is my complaint.

Brent

On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:16 AM, James Robertson wrote:

On Feb 21, 2013, at 5:57 PM, N.A. Nada whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Too bad the resolution wasn't shared with the group so others can learn from it.

I'm reading this thread pretty late, but didn't Carol tell us EXACTLY what the resolution was (click the "thumbs down" icon in the toolbar). Or, was there something more related to the fact that it was yahoo mail that was important but not mentioned?

I don't use Yahoo mail at all, so I have not idea whether there's something more to this than what's clearly written in message (unless she wrote another message earlier that I've already deleted).

Thanks,
Jim

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:14 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"N.A. Nada"

The way she posed the question had nothing to do with moving it to the Junk folder, and sounded more like she either wanted to "bounce" then email or forward it to an abuse e-ddy.

Solving problems off-list does two things. One, it does not allow us to judge if our own understanding of the problem and if our solution is correct, and two, does not allow those who did not have a solution learn from the thread. Often if one person asks a question, or does not understand something, there are others in the same boat, but who have not voiced the question.

Brent

On Feb 24, 2013, at 2:08 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

IIRC, she was commenting on something else and just include reference to the icon. The person who sent her the solution, did not bother to send it to the list but to her privately. That is my complaint.

Brent

On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:16 AM, James Robertson wrote:

On Feb 21, 2013, at 5:57 PM, N.A. Nada whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> Too bad the resolution wasn't shared with the group so others can learn from it.

I'm reading this thread pretty late, but didn't Carol tell us EXACTLY what the resolution was (click the "thumbs down" icon in the toolbar). Or, was there something more related to the fact that it was yahoo mail that was important but not mentioned?

I don't use Yahoo mail at all, so I have not idea whether there's something more to this than what's clearly written in message (unless she wrote another message earlier that I've already deleted).

Thanks,
Jim

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